tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post2020828580611261309..comments2023-10-31T09:28:27.222+00:00Comments on JUSTICE FOR MADDIE AND THE TWINS: NEGLECT IS CHILD ABUSEUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger216125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-64457439158406462042008-06-12T00:40:00.000+01:002008-06-12T00:40:00.000+01:00Boa noite, all.Really tired but happy! :-)Boa noite, all.<BR/>Really tired but happy! :-)Cláudiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03838924744879349478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-1795184254063785532008-06-11T23:10:00.000+01:002008-06-11T23:10:00.000+01:00Hi allI tend to agree we are fed up with the McCan...Hi all<BR/><BR/>I tend to agree we are fed up with the McCanns and their media spin. The news that we have is extremely positive the PJ are looking at very serious charges against them and good news I feel is just around the corner, it seems quite certain to me that at the very least the McCanns will face charges for abandoning her resulting in her death. This word abandonment needs exploring a little more perhaps. If the McCanns had left their children in bed but conducted regular checks as they claim then it could not in reality have been said they actually abandoned their children. What the PJ wanted to confront them, among other things, I think, at the reconstruction, was the fact that in reality they did not conduct any checks at all. The Paynes and Diane Webster say so, and so do numerous other witnesses, most notably among Mark Warner staff. So that really makes their negligence towards their children so much more serious and does put in context the increasing panic being displayed by Rachel Oldfield with her numerous comments in the press. Being completely out of ear shot and sight of tiny children and conducting checks every 30 minutes would be very negligent parenting, dumping them in bed and not checking them at all is downright abandonment, hence the word and incredibly serious, particularly given the clear evidence the children, at least, the McCanns were drugged. I do think this is what happened to Madeleine and that is why they all collaborated in a cover up and were all so very worried about their own positions. But, it has been a very unsatisfactory cover up and I think they will all be in court, when we cannot really say, but I would have thought within a year. Much depends on the approach to all sorts of other criminal behaviour since Madeleine's death. False sightings, fraud. I do wonder if the British authorities will be dealing with this issue and the McCanns are really deeply in the mire, in terms of what will happen to them at the end of the day. <BR/><BR/>When you consider this you can perhaps understand their continuing attempts to put a gloss on their behaviour by going to Strasbourg etc, Gerry sees any action as a positive. He has far too itchy a pair of feet to just sit and wait to be arrested.<BR/><BR/>Viv xAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-73055159925224765972008-06-11T22:58:00.000+01:002008-06-11T22:58:00.000+01:00Hi, I am going to say NO to Lisbon treaty tomorrow...Hi, I am going to say NO to Lisbon treaty tomorrow, as many others. Sorry Lisbon, nothing personal. BUT McCanns welcome in EU head quarters did it for many.<BR/>Plus all this is about NATO efforts to please Poland & co.(at the expense of Irish grants): does nothing good for Ireland and takes rights for referendums from everybody...& so on and so forth...<BR/><BR/>Case is going really well so as Portuguese football!!!<BR/><BR/>Go Portugal!irinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05096197149628613568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-48073405582754725622008-06-11T22:48:00.000+01:002008-06-11T22:48:00.000+01:00Nancy,you can be right re PJ confirming their beli...Nancy,<BR/><BR/>you can be right re PJ confirming their beliefs.<BR/><BR/>BT,<BR/><BR/>people here are so fed up of them that they don't give a damn anymore.WE ALL ARE ONLY CONCERNED WITH MADELEINE AND THE TRUTH OF THIS LIE.margahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12800557328987329158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-35037198599401480132008-06-11T22:22:00.000+01:002008-06-11T22:22:00.000+01:00I agree we are suffering from the McCann's but not...I agree we are suffering from the McCann's but not as much as poor little Madeleine did.bath theoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04454382080442358862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-48414252369200719352008-06-11T20:28:00.000+01:002008-06-11T20:28:00.000+01:00Not much doing on here this evening.I'll pop back ...Not much doing on here this evening.<BR/><BR/>I'll pop back later.<BR/><BR/>I think we are all suffering from McCann fatigue syndrome!!<BR/><BR/><BR/>Nxnancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08757653677727421758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-63436650047166681892008-06-11T20:26:00.000+01:002008-06-11T20:26:00.000+01:00Marga-It's been clear from the beginning that the ...Marga-<BR/><BR/>It's been clear from the beginning that the PJ's dont believe what the McCanns have told them about an abduction because there is no evidence whatsoever to support it. In fact, everything points to Madeleine being involed in a fatal accident.<BR/><BR/>In my opinion this simulation is an obvious move to back up their beliefs that the McCanns are lying and that it just couldn't have happened like they said.nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08757653677727421758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-91122950028117998882008-06-11T20:13:00.000+01:002008-06-11T20:13:00.000+01:00Marga,exactly. That is a lesson for all disgusting...Marga,exactly. That is a lesson for all disgusting, extremist right wing supporters, who go through life being as racist and xenophobic as they can be without getting too obvious.<BR/><BR/>Zodiac, :-)<BR/>Thank you! :-)Cláudiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03838924744879349478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-49903651836447523152008-06-11T20:09:00.000+01:002008-06-11T20:09:00.000+01:00Claudia 19.40hrs,PMSL. Congratulations.Claudia 19.40hrs,<BR/><BR/>PMSL.<BR/> <BR/>Congratulations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-80694738569341139612008-06-11T20:08:00.000+01:002008-06-11T20:08:00.000+01:00Cláudia,LOLLLLLAll football stars she/he knows fro...Cláudia,<BR/><BR/>LOLLLLL<BR/>All football stars she/he knows from the English Premier League that are shining in this EU chhampionship are INDEED Foreigners. Not British. Not only must she swallow this FACT but also the fantastic support other countries are showing toward our football and the great news about the Portuguese team, Portugal and the Portuguese in general. <BR/><BR/>Nancy,<BR/><BR/>I'm happy to know both the Pt and the Spanish police are going to participate in this simulation. Nevertheless, we should not forget how the PJ have analysed this particular case and their professional opinion not considering it a typical abduction in spite of all the manipulative hogwash.margahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12800557328987329158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-36439651921291274252008-06-11T19:40:00.000+01:002008-06-11T19:40:00.000+01:00Hope,he heard that Rosiepoophead almost had an org...Hope,he heard that Rosiepoophead almost had an orgasm (which she clearly hasn't for decades) when he missed his penalty while playing for MU and wanted to dedicate his goal to her this time. Just a little something for her! :-)<BR/>Thanks for your lovely words. people are going nuts here and celebrating in the streets! :-)<BR/>Off to watch Switzerland-Turkey next! :-)Cláudiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03838924744879349478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-52980098114766033252008-06-11T19:33:00.000+01:002008-06-11T19:33:00.000+01:00ClaudiaLOL that is the funniest thing I have heard...Claudia<BR/><BR/>LOL that is the funniest thing I have heard for ages congratulations they are doing really well xxxxhope4truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10617271855989681623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-9618317629103245312008-06-11T19:23:00.000+01:002008-06-11T19:23:00.000+01:00Oh my, we did it again!The crowd's going crazy her...Oh my, we did it again!<BR/>The crowd's going crazy here. I heard that Cristiano Ronaldo wanted to dedicate his goal to Rosiepoophead! :-)Cláudiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03838924744879349478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-85813875661014311682008-06-11T18:50:00.000+01:002008-06-11T18:50:00.000+01:00Woo hoo go Claudia well done Portugal xxxWoo hoo go Claudia well done Portugal xxxhope4truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10617271855989681623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-20674437108102449242008-06-11T17:49:00.000+01:002008-06-11T17:49:00.000+01:00Half time here. It's a 1-1 draw. Almost having an ...Half time here. It's a 1-1 draw. Almost having an heart attack here. See you all later.Cláudiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03838924744879349478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-122040580733367242008-06-11T17:48:00.000+01:002008-06-11T17:48:00.000+01:00Did it again!Did it again!Cláudiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03838924744879349478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-30521193827821214612008-06-11T17:35:00.000+01:002008-06-11T17:35:00.000+01:00Marga -I think anything that will help prevent pae...Marga -<BR/><BR/>I think anything that will help prevent paedophiles from getting across borders is a good idea so good luck to the police who take part in this simulation. <BR/><BR/>On a similar theme, it seems that the McCanns have won the backing of 211 MEP's in their campaign backed by Hello Magazine to introduce a Europe wide child alert abduction scheme based on the USA alert system. The couple need a total of 393 signatories by the end of July. They are urging every MEP to sign in coming weeks. <BR/><BR/>If it was anyone but the McCanns doing this I would applaud but the audacity of this pair never ceases to amaze me. Far too late, they are trying to convince us all that they have childrens' interests at heart but their efforts unfortunately just come over as propaganda - they desperately want the public to see them as St. Gerry and St. Kate!!nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08757653677727421758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-78565543162296798812008-06-11T17:03:00.000+01:002008-06-11T17:03:00.000+01:00PT police observing this simulation is a good thin...PT police observing this simulation is a good thing IMO.<BR/><BR/>as I do not belong to the MopUnited in the so 200 blogpage contest, I give the opportunity to someone else.<BR/><BR/>LOLmargahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12800557328987329158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-72016269605818914952008-06-11T17:00:00.000+01:002008-06-11T17:00:00.000+01:00Today in Gazeta Digital11.6.08European police orga...Today in Gazeta Digital<BR/><BR/>11.6.08<BR/>European police organizes a child kidnap simulation <BR/>Portuguese and Spanish police officers will participate, as observers, on a simulated child's kidnapping, to take place on June 12. The simulation was proposed by the French Justice minister, Rachida Dati, in order to test the coordination of the authorities of all EU countries in these kind of crimes. The simulated kidnap will take place in France. A child from Luxembourg will be “kidnapped” by two police officers, who will try to drive her from France through Belgium, to an unknown destiny, using a car with a Dutch licence plate. Police from France, Belgium, Luxembourg and Holland will participate in the attempt to trace, find and arrest the “kidnappers”. UK police was also invited as an observer, but refused the invitation.<BR/><BR/>_____________<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Hi and good bye you all!<BR/><BR/>I'm watching PT playing..<BR/><BR/><BR/>Atardi,<BR/>it was indeed Amesterdamer...margahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12800557328987329158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-50114892435435412762008-06-11T12:44:00.000+01:002008-06-11T12:44:00.000+01:00Viv -The Dutch and Spanish connection! Metodo 3 - ...Viv -<BR/><BR/>The Dutch and Spanish connection! <BR/><BR/>Metodo 3 - the Spanish connection, who have proved to be as good as useless in finding Madeleine! Why did they choose them in the first place, and why do they keep paying a huge amount of money from the fund donated by the public on a company who are not professionals in that field. It's been asked many times, but we still have no answer from them or the Pink one. <BR/><BR/>The Dutch connection - just why did they go visiting Dutch friends when they were leaving no stone unturned for their daughter. You would think that visiting friends would be the last think on their minds.<BR/><BR/>Who will they be popping off to visit on their next trip to Strasbourg? Will that be another trip funded by the taxpayer and backed by David Milliband?<BR/><BR/>Kate says they are amateurs and very few people will have gone through what they have - they must think they are a special case, because many people have gone through exactly what they have but without the vast amount of assistance from so many quarters. <BR/><BR/>I would say they are professionals now rather than amateurs - amateurs don't get paid do they?nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08757653677727421758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-30424352298625561752008-06-11T12:28:00.000+01:002008-06-11T12:28:00.000+01:00Hi folks! The following extract from the McCannfi...Hi folks! <BR/><BR/>The following extract from the McCannfiles begs the question as to how K&G can go on with their charade of trying to sell themselves to the media and the public knowing that a huge majority of them have stopped believing what they say:<BR/><BR/><BR/>"The McCanns know there is no firm evidence of an abduction in the apartment. That they have never made any suggestion, demand or claim about such evidence is revealing in itself because not only does it suggest that no such evidence exists but more chillingly, they know there is no such evidence to be found.<BR/><BR/>So with no apparent evidence, how has the theory built with no stronger materials than straw or sticks, managed to survive a year without challenge?<BR/><BR/>K&G first said that the doors were locked and changed their story when it became obvious the apartment had not been broken into.<BR/><BR/>Then they said the doors were unlocked for fear of fire, and when it seemed a serious admission to make they changed it to fear of the key sounding in the front door when the children were sleeping.<BR/><BR/>The windows were not jemmied or tampered with as had first been suggested - they were not marked, which they would have been if someone had got through the window because of the lichen on the window cills. And Kate also said that she drew the curtain back when she went into the children's bedroom. Would a predator have stopped to close the curtains back after going through the window with a child? <BR/><BR/>20 people were later in and out of the apartment but the twins didn't wake up.<BR/><BR/>Gerry said "the twins slept soundly until we moved them out of the cots which does make me wonder about whether there was any substance used to keep them asleep".<BR/><BR/>Gerry is an expert in the use of drugs in sport so would surely have known straight away if the twins had been drugged.<BR/><BR/>Eileen McCann, Gerry's mother said, "I really believe that whoever took Madeleine gave her a drug". <BR/><BR/>Madeleine had a star chart in the kitchen of the family home in Rothley to mark the times when she slept all night in her own bed. The existence of such a chart clearly implies she was a light sleeper prone to waking up and wandering in search of her parents.<BR/><BR/>Kate and Gerry spent the night of Madeleine's disappearance phoning friends and family instead of searching for Madeleine!<BR/><BR/>And what do the family and friends think about the fact that everything K&G told them has since been shown to have no grounds in truth?"nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08757653677727421758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-7813437804232025902008-06-11T10:16:00.000+01:002008-06-11T10:16:00.000+01:00Good morning all,Niki,Many thanks for the above li...Good morning all,<BR/><BR/>Niki,<BR/><BR/><BR/>Many thanks for the above link. It is indeed a brilliant summary by Nige.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-11485652165376151302008-06-11T08:27:00.000+01:002008-06-11T08:27:00.000+01:00Kalimera all! Just passing by...Have you read this...Kalimera all! <BR/><BR/>Just passing by...<BR/>Have you read this brilliant summary by Nige on McCannfiles?:<BR/><BR/>Madeleine McCann: The Abduction of the Truth<BR/><BR/>http://www.mccannfiles.com/id87.html<BR/>------<BR/><BR/>Thank you Atardi and Hope for your support yesterday! Did not help much though....:((( We'll be back stronger:) Congratulations to Holland and Spain:)<BR/><BR/>Have a nice day! See you soon:)<BR/>NikiNikihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08920031884602915439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-20556096284329128562008-06-11T07:41:00.000+01:002008-06-11T07:41:00.000+01:00Mrs McCann said: "We are amateurs in this. There a...Mrs McCann said: "We are amateurs in this. There are very few people who will have to go through anything as painful as this."<BR/><BR/><BR/>You read my mind, Kate. I do believe you were amateurs. And the courts are very tough. It will indeed be painful.<BR/><BR/>BTW: <BR/><I>"We are amateurs IN..."<BR/>There are very few people WHO..."</I><BR/><BR/>Have we met??docmachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870636771018697060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-87752689449100083352008-06-11T04:15:00.000+01:002008-06-11T04:15:00.000+01:00"We have come to the Netherlands today with a very..."We have come to the Netherlands today with a very specific objective. We have a lot of good friends here who have been working behind the scenes to help us.<BR/><BR/><BR/>"After British and German tourists, the largest group of nationals who make up the tourists in the Algarve are the Dutch."<BR/><BR/>Mr McCann insisted there was a logic behind the trips they have made in the last week.<BR/><BR/>"We are not going to go to every country in Europe. We are not selling a book, we are not pop stars, we have come here for a very specific reason."<BR/><BR/>Mrs McCann said: "We are amateurs in this. There are very few people who will have to go through anything as painful as this."<BR/><BR/><BR/>taken from this article below in which it is pointed out the McCanns were even thinking of re-directing to Britain. I am sure these trips coinciding with this mystery caller having such detailed information but not wanting to say where he was from, who he was, on an unregistered mobile, confirm these trips the McCanns were making certainly did have a very specific purpose and how nice of the Dutch friends to do all of that work for them "behind the scenes". Do what exactly?? Orchestrate a host of fake sightings of Madeleine, perhaps? Gerry and Kate needed to have a private chat with their Dutch friends, Clarence Mitchell had warned them they were being bugged, very much in keeping with his official duties then working for the government, I dont think so! If there is one thing that would really bring a smile to my face it is seeing Clarence MITCHELL GET ARRESTED:-))))<BR/><BR/> Maddie: Call sparks lead hope<BR/><BR/>8/ 6/2007<BR/><BR/>A MYSTERY phone call from a man claiming to know the whereabouts of missing Madeleine McCann could provide a new lead in the case, it emerged today.<BR/><BR/>The caller provided such detail that Kate and Gerry McCann put their European search for their daughter on hold in case they needed to act.<BR/><BR/>The couple were informed of the potential development while in Germany, where they were appealing for information about their four-year-old child.<BR/><BR/>It is 35 days since Madeleine was abducted from her bed in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz.<BR/><BR/>The "credible" call was taken from a man who wanted to speak directly to the McCanns, according to a Spanish police source.<BR/><BR/>It was traced to an unregistered pay-as-you-go phone from an unidentified country but not thought to be Morocco, where a previous possible sighting of Madeleine was reported.<BR/><BR/>The caller did not reveal his identity or nationality but the information was considered important enough to alert Mr and Mrs McCann, the source said.<BR/><BR/>At around 3pm yesterday, the couple - who were about to go to Tempelhof airport in Berlin to fly on to the Netherlands - were advised that the caller might try to contact them, so they stayed on at the British embassy.<BR/><BR/>At 6pm, journalists travelling in the eight-seater private jet with the McCanns were told by the flight crew that there might be a change in destination.<BR/><BR/>They revealed they had been asked to draw up a new flight plan involving a possible change from Amsterdam to East Midlands Airport.<BR/><BR/>It was thought the McCanns might need to go back to the UK to talk to advisers about the call.<BR/><BR/>But all efforts to re-establish contact with the man failed and the couple decided to go on to Amsterdam.<BR/><BR/>They left Berlin at 7.30pm, three hours later than planned, for the hour-long flight to Schiphol Airport, in Amsterdam, to continue their search.<BR/><BR/>Mr and Mrs McCann are thought to be on standby, ready to return to the UK if necessary.<BR/><BR/>A Spanish police source said: "A man called saying he knew where Madeleine was and wanted to speak to the McCanns.<BR/><BR/>"This did not appear to be a crank call and the information was felt credible enough to warrant the couple being informed immediately."<BR/><BR/>The McCanns were in Berlin preparing to fly to Amsterdam but were advised to delay take-off.<BR/><BR/>The situation was so critical that it was felt they could not afford to be out of touch on the plane, even for an hour during the short flight.<BR/><BR/><BR/>A provisional plan to go back to Britain was drawn up in case they made contact with the caller.<BR/><BR/>The couple wanted to be able to get the best possible specialist advice in Britain if necessary.<BR/><BR/>A British police source said: "The McCanns were delayed in Berlin after information came into the inquiry which required their urgent attention.<BR/><BR/>"There was a possibility of a new line of communication being opened up and a flight back to the UK was discussed.<BR/><BR/>"The importance of this line of inquiry is still being assessed and attempts to re-establish contact are continuing."<BR/><BR/>The McCanns have always said that it might only take one phone call to get Madeleine back.<BR/><BR/>The possible new lead came as the McCanns came to the end of the European section of their search for their daughter.<BR/><BR/>They have been to Italy, Spain, Germany and the Netherlands in a bid to raise awareness about her abduction. They plan to go to Morocco at the weekend.<BR/><BR/>Today, the McCanns were in Amsterdam for the first time since 2004, when they lived in the city for a year.<BR/><BR/>Holding a poster of their daughter at a packed press conference, Mr McCann said: "It is particularly sad for Kate and I to come back for the first time and not to come back with Madeleine who spent a year here with us.<BR/><BR/>"It is very emotional, we have fond memories of our year in Amsterdam. We have a lot of good friends here who have been working behind the scenes to help us.<BR/><BR/>"We have come to the Netherlands today with a very specific objective.<BR/><BR/>"After British and German tourists, the largest group of nationals who make up the tourists in the Algarve are the Dutch."<BR/><BR/>Mr McCann insisted there was a logic behind the trips they have made in the last week.<BR/><BR/>"We are not going to go to every country in Europe. We are not selling a book, we are not pop stars, we have come here for a very specific reason."<BR/><BR/>Mrs McCann said: "We are amateurs in this. There are very few people who will have to go through anything as painful as this."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.com