tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post2261329889507389621..comments2023-10-31T09:28:27.222+00:00Comments on JUSTICE FOR MADDIE AND THE TWINS: HATED CHILD ABUSERS GET PANIC BUTTONS AT THE TAX PAYERS EXPENSE..Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger152125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-27838547521076400602009-08-19T17:00:38.209+01:002009-08-19T17:00:38.209+01:00As that comment about how the McCanns needed panic...As that comment about how the McCanns needed panic buttons brings us full circle to what this post was originally about, putting up a new one.<br /><br />How Portugal perceives the British Press criticising the McCanns so called investigation. They may not be able to comment on the ongoing police investigation but they can paint us a big picture concerning the one the McCanns claim to be conducting!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-83307459383482471622009-08-19T16:30:53.350+01:002009-08-19T16:30:53.350+01:00Just to make that a little clearer, if the offence...Just to make that a little clearer, if the offence against Maddie happened in Portugal and her parents were not involved, then that makes it entirely within the jurisdiction of Portugal to deal with and find the offender.<br /><br />But, if her British parents offended against Maddie in Portugal by killing her then that means the British Police have jurisdiction to deal with them, but to admit that would be to just add further to the furore.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-61216470639243795212009-08-19T16:27:56.023+01:002009-08-19T16:27:56.023+01:00Di, I think the papers have been warned not to com...Di, I think the papers have been warned not to comment whatsoever on the ongoing investigation. Because to do so would invite further speculation and harassment of the McCanns which could prevent them getting a fair trial, apart from the obvious risks to them personally. The police can obviously see there is a lot of resentment against them and as we know the McCanns already had to have panic buttons to the police installed, a long time ago.<br /><br />If Maddie had genuinely been abducted by a stranger that would not be in the jurisdiction of British Police at all. So if they talk about the ongoing investigation people will obviously work out that is against Kate and Gerry.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-89333867868554254932009-08-19T16:23:13.377+01:002009-08-19T16:23:13.377+01:00ICTOAN!! How lovely to see you back, we do miss ol...ICTOAN!! How lovely to see you back, we do miss old friends!<br /><br />Thanks for your kind wishes and I do keep trying!<br /><br />I am sorry your project did not work out but am sure you will have plenty of others to work on. Even so it is really lovely you dropped by to say hello.<br /><br />Wiz - good comments about the need of some to just threaten and bully, he certainly put that point across if nothing else!<br /><br />It is almost like Philomena's comments relate to, in her head, who she thinks must have done it. It would seem to suggest Gerry had a conversation with her about how Kate had refused to answer the questions so as not to incriminate herself. So thanks for that Philo, not that you would be just a little biased, but in many respects that does make sense.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-76516424152110436432009-08-19T15:31:39.622+01:002009-08-19T15:31:39.622+01:00Hi all
Viv
Their comments about whether a law en...Hi all<br /><br />Viv<br /><br />Their comments about whether a law enforcement agency is looking for Madeleine are incredible. Why do the papers not pick up on such conflicting remarks.<br /><br />ICTOAN<br /><br />Good to see you again.<br /><br />Sorry things did not work out for you and Georgie Boy had to be sold, at least we get to have you back.<br /><br />Wizard<br /><br />A few cages have been rattled I think.Dihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336817965235588462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-47470212580455830012009-08-19T13:59:02.261+01:002009-08-19T13:59:02.261+01:00A big Hi to all my friends. I have not deserted t...A big Hi to all my friends. I have not deserted the ship (I often log in to read) but have run out of fresh things to say so that's the reasons for no posts. <br />On a personal note my big project fizzled out and Georgie Boy has now been sold on.<br /><br />Viv <br />I hope you will be fully mobile soon.<br /><br />ICTOAN<br /> the chocolate fireman.ICantThinkOfANamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10520906079397679498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-2017948217993856642009-08-19T08:38:34.004+01:002009-08-19T08:38:34.004+01:00good Morning All,
I was just looking at the Philo...good Morning All,<br /><br />I was just looking at the Philomena McCann interview from This Morning (8/9/07)<br /><br />Philomena: “The only protection it offers is that they’re allowed to take legal representation in with then when they’re being questioned by the police and the other thing that it does is that allows them not to answer questions in case they incriminate themselves. But that’s not what Kate and Gerry want to do. The police are trying to suggest that Kate has in some way accidentally killed Madeline. How ludicrous is that when one of their friends actually saw Madeline being carried up the street but some unknown assailant?”<br /><br />Hmm…. “Not to answer questions in case they incriminate themselves.” This speaks volumes.<br /> <br />Philomena: “He’s going in at 2pm today. But he’s not the main suspect, for some unknown reason there’s something about a sniffer dog sniffing Kate. Suddenly a dog can talk and says she smelled a death. How can that be when a British sniffer dog came out months after Madeline’s case? They’re doctors, if there’s a smell of death on them could that possibly be a patient?”<br /><br />Hmm…. “....if there’s a smell of death on them could that possibly be a patient?” - Is this the originating spark of an ideal where the 6 dead patients came from prior to the holiday?Wizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13647410173508843374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-81917514926606545982009-08-19T08:19:52.256+01:002009-08-19T08:19:52.256+01:00Jack et al are just wind up merchants – this is w...Jack et al are just wind up merchants – this is what gives them pleasure in life.<br /><br />They are not interested in debating facts, putting forward a plausible scenario. They just threaten people to silence them like any common a garden bully or thug. <br /><br />It is good to have different opinions on events but these opinions should be reasoned and not argued with threats – overt or covert. <br /><br />Humans have the largest brain in relation to body mass in the animal kingdom and are therefore the most intelligent. However not everyone is the same and unfortunately many who cannot reason bully and threaten to get their opinions across. <br /><br />Thank god we are not all like this and are able to keep an open mind, reason and are capable of thinking outside the box. <br /><br />Bully and thugs sometimes win a battle but not the war.Wizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13647410173508843374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-16870292460131494662009-08-18T22:58:40.900+01:002009-08-18T22:58:40.900+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.paybacktimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11337734849124560092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-54431394304761792282009-08-18T22:55:20.704+01:002009-08-18T22:55:20.704+01:00That is the last post you make on here Jack, I am ...That is the last post you make on here Jack, I am sorry you could not heed my warning.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-67086121897741405152009-08-18T22:54:00.562+01:002009-08-18T22:54:00.562+01:00when i have the time i will have to prove youre ly...when i have the time i will have to prove youre lying. i have posts you deleted. posts that are a bit too strong lets call it. and i have screenshots too. and before you ask i have them and many many others from other places for professional reasons. now gonepaybacktimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11337734849124560092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-52384583363526704322009-08-18T22:43:18.389+01:002009-08-18T22:43:18.389+01:00The only time I have deleted my own posts is to co...The only time I have deleted my own posts is to correct errors in them and that is a fact. <br /><br />I am not sure who or what you support but find you very unpleasant with your various assertions. This blog has always been a place for pleasant people and those who get deleted are the unpleasant ones.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-78159781663442153922009-08-18T22:40:13.970+01:002009-08-18T22:40:13.970+01:00viv i mean including those you deleted. you know t...viv i mean including those you deleted. you know those that were more emphatic. really have to gopaybacktimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11337734849124560092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-17243095401418486142009-08-18T22:36:14.703+01:002009-08-18T22:36:14.703+01:00I think you should be careful what you say Jack be...I think you should be careful what you say Jack because there is a distinction to be drawn in me saying what I think Gerry might have done, as you are now suggesting, and me categorically stating what he has done as a fact. Mr Bennett and Debbie have produced a leaflet and Debbie is on record as stating those are the facts, and I am afraid they are not!!<br /><br />You can go through just as many posts on here as you like!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-26117271487426039852009-08-18T22:35:32.092+01:002009-08-18T22:35:32.092+01:00Jack
Could you please elaborate...which is why th...Jack<br /><br />Could you please elaborate...which is why this place has become what it has become?<br /><br />What has this place become?Dihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336817965235588462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-63785232892387132302009-08-18T22:35:21.721+01:002009-08-18T22:35:21.721+01:00if you don't mind my family is waiting.if you don't mind my family is waiting.paybacktimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11337734849124560092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-34359502243039773582009-08-18T22:35:06.284+01:002009-08-18T22:35:06.284+01:00I guess if you put your name to something you dese...I guess if you put your name to something you deserve respect for doing so.<br /><br />Not sure the leaflets have done what they wanted them to do they have given the McCann's a fantastic op to show themselves as the victims once again especialy on a day when the Mail actually printed what we all know the investigators are not actually investigating...<br /><br />I feel very sorry for Debbie Butler and although I dont agree with the leaflets she did a very good job defending them with an ignorant reporter not wanting her to get a word in and has been treated in a discusting manor by the press. The same press who praise child neglect as something we all do.<br /><br />I have never been a faceless blogger before this happend and it is not in my character to judge parents of missing or dead children but the McCann's own actions made me believe from the first time I heard about this something was not right and by October 2007 found all the positive reporting of them laughing and smiling very disturbing...<br /><br />If they ever fancy sueing me I will be happy to go to court as there are so many things that need answers starting with the 48 questions and I would love to know what was so funny on Maddies 4th Birthday because I thought it was sad she was not at home having a party and they seemed to be having the time of their lives.<br /><br />I really belive she died as if she was still alive they would have to be the most evil people in the world to play with her life in this way.<br /><br />Have to wonder how on earth they cary on each day for Kate whatever happend her daughter has gone and as a Mother I dont know how you get past that...hope4truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10617271855989681623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-91571249592800455092009-08-18T22:32:46.336+01:002009-08-18T22:32:46.336+01:00you mean you never said gerry had abused maddie an...you mean you never said gerry had abused maddie and that he had killed her - back in the day when this blog had dozens of posters and that was your opinion. you did and you know it. and if i had time on my hand i would go through my documents to find dozens of posts confirming that. maybe i will.paybacktimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11337734849124560092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-14514048269577094042009-08-18T22:29:58.866+01:002009-08-18T22:29:58.866+01:00Can you please refer to the posts where I say quot...Can you please refer to the posts where I say quote "Gerry is a paedo and a murderer"?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-89712348638407120912009-08-18T22:25:42.167+01:002009-08-18T22:25:42.167+01:00viv where have i been abusive? have you not called...viv where have i been abusive? have you not called gerry a paedo and a murderer? isn't that against the law? its quite clear you cant deal with opposition which is why this place has become what it has become. and this was one of the great places to discuss the case. i used to be a reader even tho i never registered. delete away.paybacktimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11337734849124560092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-61542621428169774912009-08-18T22:25:32.748+01:002009-08-18T22:25:32.748+01:00Hi Jack
So you agree that Madeleine died in the a...Hi Jack<br /><br />So you agree that Madeleine died in the apartment because of their parents neglect...<br /><br />Hello... since when has Viv written as an anon..Dihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336817965235588462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-20375918837476022832009-08-18T22:21:54.281+01:002009-08-18T22:21:54.281+01:00jjp
Post subject: Re: Why Rothley?
PostPosted...jjp <br /> Post subject: Re: Why Rothley?<br />PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:19 pm <br />Mafia Boss<br />User avatar<br /><br />Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:25 am<br />Posts: 3034 <br />Stella by Starlight<br /><br />Sorry, your final sentence there seems to me to be extremely vindictive.<br /><br />So far no-one - least of all Stevo who now wants to see the neighbours of all the relatives of the McCanns and the neighbours of the witnesses of the McCanns specifically targetted, nor Beachy who, amazingly, seems to think that the residents of Rothley are the least well-informed people in the UK about the case - has come up with a single cogent reason WHY these neighbourhoods should be targetted and Rothley be the first place to be singled out in this specific way. (Yes, other places have received leaflets, but not in this way, nor with this flurry of publicity.)<br /><br />Giving information by leaflet, I agree with. Targetting in this way, I do not!<br /><br />http://the3arguidos.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=36059&p=1101643#p1101643<br /><br />Can someone explain why these specific areas are needing this public targetting?<br /><br />What makes the targetting of Rothley and Liverpool and Exeter and Skipton so much more effective in the seeking of justice for Madeleine McCann than the targetting of other locations in the UK? These are the very areas where the locals are MOST likely to have read up about the case, not the least. It has been something that has affected the people of Rothley FAR more than any other location in the UK. They had the media on their doorsteps for months. Don't tell me that they need information more than other areas! Too many posts on threads over the last few days have portrayed these locals as stupid. No proof of that exists. What do you expect them to have done??<br /><br />Is this targetting so that these neighbours will harass the McCanns and their friends, will constantly ask them questions, will shout at them in the streets, will maybe send them to Coventry? Was it deliberately timed to be just before the children start school in that area to get the gossip machine working? To an outsider of the MF like myself that is precisely how it looks. To a regular reader of the Express (which I am not) that is how the story with the Stalker headline will have read.<br /><br />Or was the aim simply to get the maximum publicity?<br /><br />Publicity to what end?<br /><br />To get the main leafletter nationally known as a stalker and a crank and to increase support for the McCanns? How is being shown to be a stalker and a crank helping re-open the case in Portugal? How is such bad publicity making it more likely that the Prosecutors there will open the case?<br /><br />Fine, you might get a few more (maybe even a few hundred more) looking in on forums and questioning, but compared to the few hundred targetted in Rothley (or who Stevo wants targetting in Liverpool and Exeter and Skipton) literally millions have seen yet another headline in the press about Tony Bennett (and this time Debbie Butler as well) as vile despicable people and even as a stalker. Literally millions who will not be moved to read the leaflet and will simply accept what they read. So on balance not a great result. Even the chance of a court case and further publicity, will almost certainly result not in millions being handed over to the MF (dream on) but in further humiliation for Debbie and her family.<br /><br />This negative publicity about the leafletting, incidentally, almost washed out one of the few well-researched articles about the McCann case that has been seen in the UK media and which clearly was instigated before news of this targetting of Rothley.<br /><br />I remain to be convinced by anyone that the main reason for this specific leaflet drop was NOT simply maximum publicity. And till I am persuaded otherwise I will remain of the view that this was a step too far which has not helped towards the opening of the case in Portugal in any way, shape or form.<br /><br />That is why I am here - to seek justice for Madeleine McCann and I can't see how a member of the MF being humiliated as a stalker has moved the possibility of that justice on at all.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-20372342894214862732009-08-18T22:21:43.098+01:002009-08-18T22:21:43.098+01:00Good post which accurately sums up my concerns abo...Good post which accurately sums up my concerns about the motives of the Madeleine Foundation..Maybe they should consider Kate's parents had nothing at all to do with the disappearance of Madeleine and simply do not deserve a punishment beating? It is really quite disgusting behaviour towards an elderly couple in the most appalling and distressing situation one could ever imagine.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-35925660301432405252009-08-18T22:20:49.132+01:002009-08-18T22:20:49.132+01:00hello hope4truth. not really. but im a fan of anyo...hello hope4truth. not really. but im a fan of anyone who is brave enough to act on their beliefs even if i don't agree with them. any coward can write anonymously on the internet and say what they wish. look at so many spineless pros.paybacktimehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11337734849124560092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-49324329168455600272009-08-18T22:13:43.376+01:002009-08-18T22:13:43.376+01:00Jack, whilst in my house, watch your ps and qs ple...Jack, whilst in my house, watch your ps and qs please, I will not tolerate abuse. Do not misquote anything I have said or be abusive again. If you want to have your say on here, do so accurately and politely otherwise it will be deleted.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.com