tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post6343626464739474869..comments2023-10-31T09:28:27.222+00:00Comments on JUSTICE FOR MADDIE AND THE TWINS: "MUM 21" TELLS US WHY KATE SAID "THEY HAVE TAKEN HERUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-36484596359707771792009-02-18T19:46:00.000+00:002009-02-18T19:46:00.000+00:00Hiya BTIf Kate wants to grasp the nettle I get the...Hiya BT<BR/><BR/>If Kate wants to grasp the nettle I get the feeling she may not have too much longer to think about that. She would be very wise to do so IMO and greatly mitigate any penalty, with a really good QC of course!<BR/><BR/>Wizard<BR/><BR/>Well it might be very quiet on here but what a fantastic piece of news and thank you so much for bringing it to me but I only just got back home.<BR/><BR/> I think it just once again confirms everything I have been trying to say but many people did not want to believe me. Is it so bad to actually believe Maddie may be alive, I do not think so. <BR/>Gerry recently stated that finally he wanted to co-operate with the authorities in the search for Maddie, I am convinced that search is on, in earnest and the McCanns, yes I am going to say it again, are in big, big trouble.<BR/><BR/>JUSTICE FOR MADDIE!<BR/><BR/><BR/>XXXXAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-9027184884237507352009-02-18T17:50:00.000+00:002009-02-18T17:50:00.000+00:00An interesting comment from Jon Clements Mirror cr...An interesting comment from Jon Clements Mirror crime reporter.<BR/><BR/>Who was listening to Kate and Gerry McCann ?<BR/>BY JON CLEMENTS ON FEB 18, 09 02:55 PM IN DAILY MIRROR<BR/>A few days ago I received an interesting letter from Leicestershire police about the Madeleine McCann investigation. <BR/>I had asked them, in July, if they had got any warrants (under the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act) to use surveillance powers - such as phone tapping and email interception on behalf of the Portuguese police. <BR/>The force initially stalled saying it needed to "consult other Agencies" before replying.<BR/>After a six month delay, Leicestershire has now claimed it is exempt from Freedom of Information laws in this case due to "national security".<BR/>I've put in dozens of FoI requests to police forces over the years, some you get and some you don't but "national security" is a new one on me.<BR/>To make matters even murkier, Leicestershire claimed a second exemption because the information I requested could relate to "the Security bodies". <BR/>A quick look at the FoI Act reveals "Security bodies" are MI5, MI6, GCHQ (pictured above), special forces (such as the SAS) and the Serious Organised Crime Agency.<BR/>Hmm.<BR/>Despite claiming these exemptions, Leicestershire seem at pains to neither confirm nor deny they hold any information relevant to my request anyway.<BR/>Check out (slowly I suggest) the tortuous conclusion to the three page letter explaining their stance.<BR/>"It is our decision that the Leicestershire Constabulary must maintain a position of neither confirming nor denying that any relevant information is held and that this response, which neither confirms nor denies that information is held, should not be taken as conclusive evidence that the information you have requested exists or does not exist". <BR/>Thanks, but I think that is a rather long-winded way of saying Foxtrot Oscar. <BR/>However, it does beg the question just who was bugging the McCanns after they returned from Praia da Luz ? And what has the answer got to do with national security ?<BR/>Link<BR/>http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/anything-you-say/2009/02/who-was-listening-to-kate-and.htmlWizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13647410173508843374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-7972014352044205252009-02-18T17:29:00.001+00:002009-02-18T17:29:00.001+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.bath theoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04454382080442358862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-84449967987802661592009-02-18T17:29:00.000+00:002009-02-18T17:29:00.000+00:00A smart move for Kate would be to get her own lawy...A smart move for Kate would be to get her own lawyer discreetly and tell all, and mitigate circumstances by also being frank about their relationship if such bruising and psychological bullying is/was taking place. He is unlikely to woe a jury with his complete lack of charm and rather sinister air.bath theoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04454382080442358862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-33698294069826397272009-02-18T08:12:00.000+00:002009-02-18T08:12:00.000+00:00Please see link to this thread last year, McCanns ...Please see link to this thread last year, McCanns being investigated in respect of two scenarios involving both kidnapping and homicide and the fact the Times wrote a report suggesting they were only being investigated for neglect. Clarence Mitchell glibly announced he was pleased abduction was being looked at, what he forgot to mention is abduction the McCanns themselves were involved in! When insisting on only looking at the death in the apt scenario people seem to have overlooked this! <BR/><BR/>http://justiceformaddie.blogspot.com/2008/06/kidnapping-murder-concealment-of-corpse.htmlAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-13786685326156905682009-02-17T23:22:00.000+00:002009-02-17T23:22:00.000+00:00Hiya WizWell obviously yes if she does not keep he...Hiya Wiz<BR/><BR/>Well obviously yes if she does not keep her mouth shut she loses the twins as well and I am sure he would not hesitate to point that out, him being such a nice chap. Prison and losing the twins, he has got her where he wants her but if she was really smart she would take him on because the prison he has her in is even worse and there is no end of term! <BR/><BR/>xxAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-57806487945266608002009-02-17T23:04:00.000+00:002009-02-17T23:04:00.000+00:00I would think, and of course I’m only speculating,...I would think, and of course I’m only speculating, that the hold he has over Kate is the twins. If she doesn’t keep to the script she would never have the care of the twins again. A very strong argument to a mother who has just lost one child and a fear that would certainly make her toe the line.Wizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13647410173508843374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-80007585064222950802009-02-17T22:52:00.000+00:002009-02-17T22:52:00.000+00:00WizOne of the most classic injuries on domestic vi...Wiz<BR/><BR/>One of the most classic injuries on domestic violence victims are grab marks to the arms, which Kate most clearly had.<BR/><BR/>The control freak is grabbing hold of the woman and telling her in no uncertain terms exactly what she must think, say and do. I think this case is so terrible she knows she will go down for a long time as well for failure to protect Maddie from serious harm. She is in an agonising situation IMO.<BR/><BR/>The Fund, Gerry's baby, and what matters most of all to a control freak, wealth, fame, fortune. <BR/><BR/>xxAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-81728103630754579552009-02-17T22:48:00.000+00:002009-02-17T22:48:00.000+00:00Viv – I think you could be right. It wouldn’t sur...Viv – I think you could be right. It wouldn’t surprise me if Kate was not doing as she was told, hence the bruises. High stakes and the control freak loses control.Wizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13647410173508843374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-58391338170248444452009-02-17T22:45:00.000+00:002009-02-17T22:45:00.000+00:00Kate repeatedly sobbing according to Mrs Fenn "we ...Kate repeatedly sobbing according to Mrs Fenn "we have let her down" .. guilt, despair, remorse.<BR/><BR/>What we have never seen from Gerry McCann is anything the least bit normal, just like that!<BR/><BR/>xxAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-26443786604230176602009-02-17T22:39:00.000+00:002009-02-17T22:39:00.000+00:00sex offenders are invariably terrible control frea...sex offenders are invariably terrible control freaks..I think he destroys an awful lot of things including what was formerly a bright bubbly intelligent woman, jmo..Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-14574274874582821162009-02-17T22:37:00.000+00:002009-02-17T22:37:00.000+00:00Viv – I think Gerry has proved his is a control fr...Viv – I think Gerry has proved his is a control freak – that of course may only be the half of it.Wizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13647410173508843374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-17573064953150308002009-02-17T22:30:00.000+00:002009-02-17T22:30:00.000+00:00Hi WizKate is a very good suspect as they say, the...Hi Wiz<BR/><BR/>Kate is a very good suspect as they say, there is no doubt about that! But she was covered in bruises and Gerry and Philomena were immediately pointing the finger at her and saying how unbalance she is. I think she is unbalanced because she is married to him! I am always going to feel the need to defend her to an extent, I just cannot help that because I see very clearly what she is married to.<BR/><BR/><BR/>xxAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-88939933568617314722009-02-17T22:26:00.000+00:002009-02-17T22:26:00.000+00:00Well exactly Wiz, he did not close the window and ...Well exactly Wiz, he did not close the window and shutter because they were never open!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-73817665662492414442009-02-17T22:25:00.000+00:002009-02-17T22:25:00.000+00:00‘Then Gerry kneeled down, hit the floor with both ...‘Then Gerry kneeled down, hit the floor with both hands, positioning himself as if he were a praying Arab, and screamed twice of anger, what he said being impossible to understand.’<BR/>A good example of hamming it up imo.Wizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13647410173508843374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-55940080261170259302009-02-17T22:21:00.000+00:002009-02-17T22:21:00.000+00:00Well Viv – Gerry says he closed the window in the ...Well Viv – Gerry says he closed the window in the children’s room – what was he wearing gloves- the only finger prints found on that window were Kate’s.Wizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13647410173508843374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-13947115007253675112009-02-17T22:16:00.000+00:002009-02-17T22:16:00.000+00:00Hi WizI copy below extract of that really helpful ...Hi Wiz<BR/><BR/>I copy below extract of that really helpful stmt of Ms Batista a senior employee who the police interviewed several times, her evidence is vital to this case IMO.<BR/><BR/>As you say she paints a very clear picture of Gerry the action man going into the bedroom with the police and glibly inventing a quick lie as to why he tampered with an apparent major crime scene. He says he closed the windows and shutter again because the twins were sleeping in there. It just could not be much more bizarre really, could it? They immediately know Maddie has been abducted from that room and rather than leaving it completely untouched and removing the twins, they put the windows and shutters back down. Gerry McCann you are the worlds most pathetic liar! <BR/><BR/>Whilst he, Payne, OB, Rachel are all racing around putting things into place and ringing the press, Kate sits there on her bed, devastated, frozen. Now that could be because she killed Madeleine and Gerry is just putting everything right for her, there is no doubt about that, but I seriously have my doubts as to whether that is the reality. Did she have this fear, this premonition about going because she thought she may do that? I will continue to think she may be unfairly copping the flack for all of this, it is where I started out and I am still struggling to move from that position. Because I see two people and one I see in a much worse light than another. She is ill, distraught and distressed, him never!<BR/><BR/><BR/>When she came close to the elements of the GNR she found that behind her was<BR/>Gerry, Madeleine's father, accompanied by another man whose identity she doesn't remember. Then Geny kneeled down, hit the floor with both hands, positioning himself as if he were a praying Arab, and screamed twice of anger, what he said being impossible to understand. Then Gerry stand up and accompanied her (the witness) and the other man in the car of the GNR to the apartment A5. SO IT WOULD APPEAR GERRY PUT ON A FIT OF HISTRIONICS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE GNR<BR/><BR/>She entered the apartment and asked for the passports of all elements of the family, and also photographs of the missing girl. She went with Gerry to the GNR car to hand over the requested documents. SO IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH PHOTOGRAPHS OF MADDIE WERE IMMEDIATELY HANDED OVER, HOW COME HE HAD THOSE?<BR/><BR/>She mentions she did this, as well as other tasks, at the request of the GNR Commandant, because she could translate their questions and the missing girl's family's answers.<BR/>She remembers Gerry gave the Commandant of several photographs of the missing girl. They were postcard-like pictures, taking into account their size and shape and seemed all the same to her.<BR/><BR/><BR/>She understood also that since the very beginning either Gerry or the others insisted on stating that Madeleine had been snatched, all using the word "abducted" instead of missing, and all showing much interest in informing the press of the situation.<BR/><BR/>She also recalls entering in the room where Madeleine should be sleeping and remembers now that the door was closed. The room was dark. The blinds were down, some light entering through their holes. The windows were closed and the curtains slightly open. Gerry, who followed her and the elements of the GNR, said he did close the window because of the babies sleeping in the room, a fact she confirms.<BR/>Gerry said that when he discovered the disappearance of Madeleine he noticed that the window and the blinds were open and the curtains fluttering.<BR/>She recalls that the beds which were in the middle of the room and used by the babies<BR/>were aligned and therefore found it strange that someone had taken Madeleine from the bed where she would be sleeping and had gone to the window because there was no space to pass.<BR/>She opened the wardrobes of that room in order to confirm that Madeleine wasn't eventually hiding there.<BR/>Then everyone left the room and someone shut the door. She remained for some time in the living room, near the GNR elements, Gerry and other elements of the group<BR/>who got in and out and spoke on their cellular phones.<BR/><BR/>She observed that none of the elements of the group including the father and mother of the child was concerned with looking for her.<BR/><BR/>The mother was sitting on the bed of her room, the father was with her (the witness) and the elements of the GNR, and other elements of the group got in and out<BR/>and spoke on the phone, anxious, in her opinion, to tell the press what happened.<BR/><BR/>She thought that the child's mother was devastated, the father was worried and<BR/>also asked to notify the press and to get dogs to search.<BR/>About the others she only remembers that Fiona and her husband, Payne, were hysterical with the situation.<BR/><BR/><BR/>At a certain time, after the arrival of the PJ elements, the parents removed the twins from the beds in which they were still sleeping and took them to the first floor flat.<BR/><BR/>At the request of Kate she (the witness) to remove their puppets (CUDDLECATS??) drink and a blanket that she took to the first floor flat. Only the mattresses remained.<BR/><BR/>She wanted to mention that around 3h00 Madeleine's parents asked for a priest to be present. They didn't explain why they wanted a priest but she (the witness) was amazed, because there were no indications that the little girl was dead and only in these circumstances is usually asked the presence of a priest. ONE CAN SERIOUSLY UNDERSTAND GONCALO AMARAL'S THINKING HERE!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-54295813409499010202009-02-17T21:56:00.000+00:002009-02-17T21:56:00.000+00:00Following my earlier post I think Gerry, who imo w...Following my earlier post I think Gerry, who imo was orchestrating the alleged abduction, didn’t do much searching either that night because his main priority was to be with his wife to ensure she didn’t crack and spill the beans. I think this is the most logical reason as they must have known not to search would look very odd.<BR/><BR/>Viv – witnesses say Gerry was very jovial at dinner, well imo he was just a more convincing actor than his wife. We know he compartmentalises so he was probably able to carry this part of the plan off by hamming it up. Nerves affect people in different ways.Wizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13647410173508843374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-75195601533612440132009-02-17T21:50:00.000+00:002009-02-17T21:50:00.000+00:00Aha, another great blow for sound common sense fro...Aha, another great blow for sound common sense from one of my favourite posters on 3 As, Weary, so are the Mucks getting any help from the government, you bet, go to jail, do not pass go, do not..(!) In short just as much help as any other child abusing money grabbers..but this investigation is costing the government a heck of a lot more than average, and has damaged relations with Portugal and that will not make them best pleased with the Mucks! Are the government bailing them out, well does it look like it! Keep running back to your lawyer in Portugal Gerry, that will not shut anyone up, you had it mate!<BR/><BR/>Weary wrote:<BR/>I spent more years at a university than you could shake a stick at, and I didn't meet people who became movers and shakers, or people whose relatives are movers and shakers. Maybe they were different. If they knew powerful people who were able to sweep everything under the carpet they wouldn't have been left with an irritating blowhard like Clarence, who came to be despised by the press, and the McCanns would have held Madeleine Day, never have been named arguidos, no DVD incriminating them would have been released, Murat would be behind bars, and Kate would be the head of a Centre for Missing and Exploited Children.<BR/><BR/>If Gordon Brown was asked why he championed the McCanns and he looked uncomfortable and said "Friends in common" it may just have been a politician's embarrassment at having tried to get some good PR for himself by aligning himself with people Britons adulated at first but later turned on. In some two years of the MF and 3A's, I don't remember anyone giving a clear indication of who these friends-in-common are. Brown was trying to avoid answering "Yes, why DID I try to hitch my wagon to these people who turned out to be pond scum? Because I made a stupid choice and backed the wrong horse." He's hardly likely to say "Well, at first they had my pity but later I got very, very suspicious" any more than any other celebrity who bailed on them has said that.<BR/><BR/>Instead of looking like the innocent parents of a child who was snatched, despite their sterling care of her, the McCanns have lost all but a lunatic fringe of their admirers and are a little more popular than the delusional narcissist who had eight babies a couple of weeks back. (She thought everybody would think she was a great mother too. It hasn't worked out as she planned.) When the PJ asked the McCanns and T7 to return to Portugal and they refused we heard all about it. Social Services made a visit to the McCanns shortly after they returned home, right in front of the press. Murat's arguido status was dropped and he has stopped being hounded, but the public like the McCanns less and less the more we know about them. Kate seems so uncomfortable in a world of people who don't admire her that we don't hear of her leaving the house often.<BR/><BR/>The case against them was shelved, not dismissed, and a DVD full of information that tends to make it clear that the McCanns lied and can't keep their stories straight was lobbed straight into the hands of the press. The McCanns had plans to make a bundle by suing everybody who looked at 'em funny, but they haven't been able to mount a successful in-court suit (and I suspect they tried very hard.) They were also going to make money off of a book, TV show, and movie (just like that nut job who had IVF to get her 14 kids) but they can't, because as long as the DVD is out there, they can't lie about what they did, how little they checked, and how sleazy they look. If they had really powerful friends they'd be sitting pretty, making even more money off Madeleine, and seen as Parents of the Decade. I don't think they really have powerful friends. They had well-wishers who latched onto them when they still looked like decent people whose child had been snatched from under their noses.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-13740905100837937432009-02-17T20:55:00.000+00:002009-02-17T20:55:00.000+00:00Phew, according to witnesses Gerry was at his jovi...Phew, according to witnesses Gerry was at his jovial best at dinner, that must make him one heck of a psycho, particularly if Maddie was already dead. I think we will have to wait for the police to tell us, but they will, in the end! <BR/><BR/>I do agree though that Kate's described reaction is like her shutting down in deep shock and despair, she had already used up all her adrenaline and must have been in a terrible state. <BR/><BR/>We have a really good independent witness Ms Batista that she just sat on her bed, that is the truth!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-56222237723387876892009-02-17T17:41:00.000+00:002009-02-17T17:41:00.000+00:00HelloI think she messed her lines up as well the w...Hello<BR/><BR/>I think she messed her lines up as well the whole thing is sickening but hey they have to live with the lies and with perverting the course of justice being high in the news at the moment their friends must be feeling very ill at the moment as well...<BR/><BR/>All it takes is for one of them to crack or M3 to tell all (which looks like it is happening) and goodbye freedom for all those who have knowingly lied for them..hope4truthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10617271855989681623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-35649264261713494372009-02-17T16:11:00.000+00:002009-02-17T16:11:00.000+00:00Here Here Wizard jolly well saidHere Here Wizard jolly well saidbath theoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04454382080442358862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-1584923350450178402009-02-17T14:15:00.000+00:002009-02-17T14:15:00.000+00:00Why did Kate McCann say ‘they’ve taken her’ it’s v...Why did Kate McCann say ‘they’ve taken her’ it’s very simple. As you know I believe Madeleine was already dead before the Mc’s went to dinner. However she died it would have been traumatic for both parents, add to this the fact they try to conceal what happened and stage an abduction. They would have been highly emotionally charged, nervous and desperate. Kate was chosen to raise the alarm imo because it looked less threatening if a woman does so. Kate has had to sit in the apartment going through how best to stage this horrendous event then has to sit for a further hour and a half at the tapis bar making small talk, continually wondering if anyone is detecting any thing odd about her behaviour and no doubt having a number of drinks for Dutch courage. At 10.00pm she leaves to return to the apartment to stage the finding and announce it. Well quite frankly it was a little too much for her and perhaps she had also a little too much to drink - quite simply she fluffed her lines. She was looking to Gerry for support when she makes “they’ve taken her” statement, who knew exactly what she was talking about, but alas she temporarily forgot this announcement was for a wider audience. <BR/><BR/>Kate couldn’t do any searching that night because she was physically, mentally and emotionally drained by the events leading up to raising the alarm. We are told by witnesses Kate couldn’t walk and couldn’t string a sentence together shortly after she raised the alarm which they note as unusual. What they were viewing imo was nervous exhaustion and her system shutting down due not to an abduction but the death of her daughter and the staging that followed. It amazes me she pulled it off with only fluffing a few lines.Wizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13647410173508843374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-45722697925896775052009-02-17T12:12:00.000+00:002009-02-17T12:12:00.000+00:00Copying from other thread as think they are helpfu...Copying from other thread as think they are helpful to this issue, perverting the course of justice as they were obviously doing just like Rhys Jones killer's rotten mother, and showing no emotion, just like rotten psycho Foxy Knoxy.<BR/><BR/>hope4truth said...<BR/><BR/> Perverting the course of justice is a serious matter...<BR/><BR/> "The mother of Rhys Jones's killer has been warned she faces jail after admitting lying to police investigating the schoolboy's murder."<BR/><BR/> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/7892457.stm<BR/><BR/> It really is not worth lying for people is it...<BR/> Monday, 16 February 2009 22:35:00 o'clock GMT <BR/>viv said...<BR/><BR/> What a terrible woman Hope, I just cannot believe people could do this, if I had sat with one of my son's in a police interview and heard this I would have just broke down and sobbed to think my son could do such a terrible thing, when she gets 4 years *or thereabouts, I would say*, she will sorry the wicked cruel woman, prolonging the terrible misery for parents who lost their lovely little boy:<BR/><BR/> Mrs Mercer admitted being present in a police interview with her son when he claimed he did not own a bike which matched the description of the one officers were looking for.<BR/><BR/> She was later involved in the negotiations with an insurance company to replace her son's bike, but did not tell police.<BR/><BR/> She also admitted lying to police in a statement she made in September 2007 when she claimed her son only owned one bike and that she had no idea how long he owned it for.<BR/> Monday, 16 February 2009 23:19:00 o'clock GMT <BR/>viv said...<BR/><BR/> It also goes to show how wicked people think they are conning the police but over time, the police are merely building a case against them...who do they think they are!!<BR/> Monday, 16 February 2009 23:21:00 o'clock GMT <BR/>viv said...<BR/><BR/> Witnesses said Knox did not appear distressed and was cuddling Sollecito at the police station while waiting to be questioned.<BR/><BR/> "I found Amanda's behaviour very strange and I found it quite difficult to be around her," said Robyn Carmel Butterworth, a prosecution witness who was a friend of the victim.<BR/><BR/> "Everybody was upset and she didn't seem to show any emotions. We were all crying. I didn't see her crying."<BR/><BR/> The witness said Knox and Sollecito were fooling around as they waited to see police.<BR/><BR/> "I remember Amanda sticking her tongue out at Raffaele," the British witness said. "They were talking and joking, kissing and cuddling."<BR/><BR/> Rudy Guede in court<BR/><BR/> Guilty: Rudy Guede<BR/><BR/> Amy Frost, another witness who was also at the police station, said Knox "made faces," such as crossing her eyes and sticking her tongue out. She was "giggling" and kissing Sollecito, said Frost.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-77087236373364661342009-02-17T12:04:00.000+00:002009-02-17T12:04:00.000+00:00Hiya BT! I think you summed things up very well h...Hiya BT! <BR/><BR/>I think you summed things up very well here: They do say the best lies are based on the truth and when they have repeatedly insisted she was taken from her bed etc, and "they have taken her" this was certainly based on reality IMO.<BR/><BR/>Now whilst I can definitely agree Gordy would make a fantastic spitting image puppet and cannot agree on the rest. IMO he was approached by a schemer who got himself right to the top, that is what they were all about that night, and Gordy simply felt sorry for him, naturally and said he would do his best to help, unwise perhaps but if you had the wailing Gerry on the other end of the phone how would you have reacted, certainly at that stage they clearly just had to be given the benefit of the doubt. We have now read how Rachel Oldfield was immediately ringing her Chief Political Correspondent for the BBC friend, this just stinks of them trying to firmly embed an abduction by stranger no more than that, having Gordy on side was bound to be a tad helpful. If Gordy was on side would they still be getting the stick they are now or would he have made an announcement in the Commons all this speculation and nastiness about the McCanns just has to stop, they have suffered enough! Maybe he would even have got MI5 to put me down:-)))<BR/><BR/>slant any investigation to believe an abduction to have taken place from the off. It could also be a clever use of words because she may well know a group of adults did take her and thus feel she is telling the truth from her perspective.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.com