tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post6356055123835084693..comments2023-10-31T09:28:27.222+00:00Comments on JUSTICE FOR MADDIE AND THE TWINS: KATE JUNE 07 MY FULL TIME CAREER CHILD WELFARE AND OPPOSING PAEDOPHILESUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger271125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-48914252769559750882008-04-07T17:00:00.000+01:002008-04-07T17:00:00.000+01:00Viv,Just wanted to add "a tap on the nappy" [Quoti...Viv,<BR/><BR/>Just wanted to add "a tap on the nappy" [Quoting Diane H] says it all! She may not think she is doing anything wrong, but if a child is still at the nappy stage, then they are obviously still a baby, and therefore, far too tiny to smack! Not only will it confuse and scare them, but as they are so little, the message you are trying to give them (by smacking them) will not get through anyway!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-54555408367402999482008-04-07T16:54:00.000+01:002008-04-07T16:54:00.000+01:00Viv, There are a lot of weirdos in the Australian ...Viv, <BR/><BR/>There are a lot of weirdos in the Australian outback or out in the bush. The reason is that they have values and/or lifestyles that would be considered unacceptable or oddball in more mainstream society, so like to "get away from it all" where they can indulge their nut-case ideals to their heart's content!<BR/><BR/>Case in point: There is nothing "cute" or anecdotal about a child eating dog poo. Sure, accidents happen, but the parent should be berating themselves and walking with their tail between their legs; not celebrating it like it is something joyous or "funny". There are insects and disease in dog faeces - nothing "cute" about that, and I have to wonder if this parent even took their kid to the GP?? <BR/><BR/>As for smacking, I agree with it, but NEVER more than a quick thwack, and NEVER to a child under six (a two year old is still a baby, and simply does not the cognitive understanding to appreciate cause and effect. They don't understand "naughty" or good and bad. They are just themselves, exploring their world in still very embryonic stages. So if you smack them they simply will not understand why. They will be confused and alienated and possibly physically hurt. They don't understand that they've been "naughty" because they don't even know what "naughty" is! This is a concept for older children, not an infant.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-65949264467207513902008-04-06T21:22:00.000+01:002008-04-06T21:22:00.000+01:00I will leave your comments because they demonstrat...I will leave your comments because they demonstrate what an abusive little bully you are who smacks a two year old and let his eat dog muck and food.<BR/><BR/>If you check the pic of my parrot you will see he is on a cage, not in it, in fact there are two joined together. I also pointed out to you on the other thread Gerry IS NOT A HEART SURGEON<BR/><BR/>You are an ignorant bully who does even trouble to get your facts straight. If I knew who you were and your address I would not hesitate to report you for child abuse.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-76258757077582219142008-04-06T04:59:00.000+01:002008-04-06T04:59:00.000+01:00Viv, Viv, VivWhat a fool you are and constantly do...Viv, Viv, Viv<BR/><BR/>What a fool you are and constantly doing more and more to prove it. Commenting about my parenting style and my apparent lack of supervision of my children is just purely ridiculous. With nothing to go on but your own lame imagination, you have taken what is meant to be a little family tale and tried to turn it into something sinister.<BR/><BR/>I will let in on a few little secrets<BR/><BR/>My front yard is fully fenced with pool fencing because I live on a river and dont wish to loose my children to drowning.<BR/>Little boy was on his own for about 5 minutes in a fully fenced yard which he cannot get out of.<BR/>We keep him out of the front yard because he likes to play in the dog pooh, dog food and eat sand. He is after all a normal 2 you boy. <BR/>My partner, who is a very caring person did acknowledge that he had left the gate open but hey, it was an internal gate, into a fully fenced yard. So shoot him.<BR/>I believe in smacking, I find reasoning with a 2 yo to be a waste of time. But I luckily usually only have to give a tap on the nappy to get what I want. No pain involved. I dont believe in giving a child a hiding. But I also believe that a parent does their children no favours by not discplining the children and teaching them how to behave. Even when the child is only 2. <BR/><BR/>And unlike you, who keeps a parrot in a cage, which I personally believe to be an abhorrent thing to do to any bird, let alone a parrot, I have two beautiful dogs that are well looked after. A bit of dirt in their dry food wont hurt, after all Cassie tips her dry food on the ground before she eats it, so what is the difference. <BR/><BR/>You're pathetic little attempt at smears just embarass you, not me. I am confortable in the knowledge that I have two beautiful, smart, well adjusted, well behaved children who are well looked after and liked by everyone that meets them.<BR/> <BR/>You, what do you have, nothing but a twisted vile outlook on life and an inability to tell fantasy from reality. You jump to conclusion all the time, stupid conclusions at that, as evidenced by your comments about me and my parenting skills. No evidence,nothing except a little story about my morning which you blow out of all proportion.<BR/><BR/>Truly pathetic.<BR/><BR/>I expect you will delete this, so am posting onto ST's blog as well.dianehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04339966110363853164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-52024214539531218482008-04-06T02:29:00.000+01:002008-04-06T02:29:00.000+01:00and then we have the parenting style...(!) sit blo...and then we have the parenting style...(!) sit blogging, god knows what little boy is doing and then give him a big smack, almost..caring pet owner too..ummm I can see why these people can see no wrong in Kate and Gerry..<BR/><BR/> dianeh said... <BR/>Hi China<BR/><BR/>Im still here, just had to run off as little boy had escaped into the front yard (someone left gate open from front verandah) and I found him alternatively filling up the dogs food tub (dry food) with sand and eating said dog food.<BR/><BR/>And when I picked him up, I got the biggest hug. Probably just distracting me from giving him a big smack. Well it worked. Poor dogs have to put up with sand in their dry food now for a few weeks.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-51843195948537869942008-04-06T02:18:00.000+01:002008-04-06T02:18:00.000+01:00Hiya again LeighJust scanning some of their loopy ...Hiya again Leigh<BR/><BR/>Just scanning some of their loopy comments where they are even stupid enough to brag about how they post on this site under their numerous silly names.. Now who's a clever little prat then "Calcite", did you get the usual big slap on the back? Mind you from what I just seen I could understand you getting a little bored..does anyone actually read what JaneGt writes?<BR/><BR/> calcite51 said... <BR/>The other blog probably have me on ignore. I think I got deleted the other day when Viv was complaining to Mark55 about his negative attitude and questions he was asking the blog. mark came back telling Viv she was very rude - and I of course being demure and oh, so quiet wrote that I agreed with Mark and that Viv was definitely being aggressive and rude.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-84762907915892597082008-04-06T02:00:00.000+01:002008-04-06T02:00:00.000+01:00Well done, Lux, but SOCA focus on organised crime,...Well done, Lux, but SOCA focus on organised crime, and CEOP would only be drawn in under that remit.<BR/><BR/>There is no evidence of an abduction in the case of 'missing' Madeleine Beth McCann.<BR/><BR/>There is evidence of child neglect, and there is an ongoing investigation into other offences.<BR/><BR/>SOCA and CEOP only get involved if there is enough evidence to warrant scrutiny of suspected serious crime of an organised nature involving many people.<BR/><BR/>Goodnight Viv et bon soir Lux...til next time.ta rahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02023023252328186134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-69811789883679969212008-04-06T01:33:00.000+01:002008-04-06T01:33:00.000+01:00Good night to you all and thanks for your great co...Good night to you all and thanks for your great contribution on here tonight<BR/><BR/>I just cleaned the kitchen, splendid! <BR/><BR/>Viv xAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-85241209574356147812008-04-06T01:17:00.000+01:002008-04-06T01:17:00.000+01:00I am back re SOCA possible presence, I have just ...I am back re SOCA possible presence, I have just found a more simple explanation in case it would happen:the CEOP (Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre) is affiliated to SOCA. I guess such a presence would have nothing to do with fraud but with chil protection. <BR/>Now I am off.<BR/>Good night xlux_et_veritas_floreanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09683027744967220108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-54172858441056513632008-04-06T01:08:00.000+01:002008-04-06T01:08:00.000+01:00Spot on Viv, its all shallow when as I said they t...Spot on Viv, its all shallow when as I said they themselves say nothing. Any prosecutor would say that they want to create an alternative scenarion,i.e abduction but avoid the other scenario completely.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15247401239046428090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-86867507857075030332008-04-06T01:03:00.000+01:002008-04-06T01:03:00.000+01:00Night night Viv and Joe. Must go.By the way, there...Night night Viv and Joe. Must go.<BR/><BR/>By the way, there is only one UK charity run by the British police. It is called 'Child Victims of Crime'.<BR/><BR/>When the McCanns ran back to this country, they walked straight into the lion's den, in my opinion.<BR/><BR/>This takes as long as it takes. It's not over yet.<BR/><BR/>xo<BR/>leighta rahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02023023252328186134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-76403515129798522852008-04-06T01:01:00.000+01:002008-04-06T01:01:00.000+01:00Hiya JoeWho in their right mind would take Jane Ta...Hiya Joe<BR/><BR/>Who in their right mind would take Jane Tanner seriously. Originally he was going in one direction and she was not even sure he was carrying a child, the indetikit was a picture of eggman. Then he was going in the direction of Murat's villa. Then he looked nothing like Murat and he has massive teeth and it was definitely a child, wearing Maddie's PJs in fact it was Maddie!<BR/><BR/>No wonder they want to deal with her first, that should put the fear of God up the rest of them and their silly lies x I am sure she will be crying on the phone to them...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-63973951666197204082008-04-06T00:57:00.000+01:002008-04-06T00:57:00.000+01:00Thanks Viv/Leigh3 for the info. That makes sense a...Thanks Viv/Leigh3 for the info. That makes sense about the lack of lawyers <BR/>I read in the week that the PJ were only going to sit in on the Tapas interviews and leave the rest to the British Police.<BR/><BR/>What would any Policeman think of 2 people who could help but decline and they are supposed to take their witnesses seriously, I do not think so.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15247401239046428090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-89665862816531402712008-04-06T00:56:00.000+01:002008-04-06T00:56:00.000+01:00Hiya JoeIt is a legitimate way to try and defend a...Hiya Joe<BR/><BR/>It is a legitimate way to try and defend a criminal case when all else fails of trying to establish an element of doubt. The reason for this is simple. The prosecution have to prove their case beyond reasonable doubt and so if the McCanns can in some way create that element of doubt by suggesting an abduction was possible then they would be entitled to expect an acquittal. <BR/><BR/>But there is the rub, their witnesses are quite simply PATHETIC. Two tennis playing sisters who saw a couple of blond men, one walked down the stairs and then walked back up again. Granny Cooper, two weeks before the McCanns even arrived she saw a man walking on the beach in the rain and then he even knocked her door collecting for charity. Would any of this credibly suggest that Madeleine was abducted, what a load of old baloney. Where is the evidence of any abductor jemmying the windows and climbing through like Gerry McCann said, there is none! But there is very powerful evidence their friends tried to stitch up a perfectly innocent man who Gerry refused to confirm or deny he already knew.<BR/><BR/>It is quite sad and desperate and a shocking waste of police time but hey we must respect their rights under Portuguese law to waste police time!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-56903557310804065302008-04-06T00:49:00.000+01:002008-04-06T00:49:00.000+01:00I hope that the Police take a dim view of all the ...I hope that the Police take a dim view of all the time wasters and possible false witnesses in that lot. Its done to confuse the whole issue and cause delay delay delay. As I said earlier the 2 stars themselves cannot make a personal appearance but get other people to talk for them.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15247401239046428090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-71115088825598621232008-04-06T00:47:00.000+01:002008-04-06T00:47:00.000+01:00Hi Joe,Quitely frankly, my dear, I don't give a da...Hi Joe,<BR/><BR/>Quitely frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. :-)<BR/><BR/>The McCanns and some of their friends committed a crime in a fellow European country, and these teeny tiny provincial nobodies from Leics have offended the UK, and our European partners.<BR/><BR/>The German magazine Stern is very influential in Europe's biggest economy. The French are very influential in the European Parliament. <BR/><BR/>The UK apologists for the McCanns and their supporters are tiresome bores; the wunderkind of a very insignificant place in time.<BR/><BR/>The McCanns invited by UK politicians to speak at a staged interview AFTER next week's serious European Parliament discussion on an Amber Alert system will only belittle themselves, and the UK.<BR/><BR/>Cheers! Brits get the politics and the doctors they deserve, imo.<BR/><BR/>BTW: I'm very Anglo Saxon and Basque. So my disgust with the UK response to the McCann machine of media manipulators is philosophical, not provincial.<BR/><BR/>Tsk. Petty provincialism. Such a bore.ta rahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02023023252328186134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-50218171295466671522008-04-06T00:42:00.000+01:002008-04-06T00:42:00.000+01:00Hiya JoeThe reason no lawyers will be present is b...Hiya Joe<BR/><BR/>The reason no lawyers will be present is because as witnesses they are not entitled to have lawyers present. This is a human rights safeguard afforded to criminal suspects only in the same way that only suspects have the right to silence, witnesses do not, they could be charged with obstructing/perverting the course of justice, if they had tried to refuse to answer police questions concerning such a serious case of a missing child, on the evidence available, dead and unlawfully killed.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-54607936632339764932008-04-06T00:39:00.000+01:002008-04-06T00:39:00.000+01:00Thanks very much WizardSo British Police must traw...Thanks very much Wizard<BR/><BR/>So British Police must trawl through endless witnesses seemingly with nothing more to offer than I saw a 30 year old blong man walk down some steps and then walk back up again. What a wicked waste of time!<BR/><BR/>However, some of the witnesses clearly could be very useful indeed including family members, Clarence Mitchell, Justine McGuinness and the Psychologist. Will the family members explain how Gerry told them the window had been "jemmied" and the shutters damaged, or will they get a bit conflicting like the TAPAS.<BR/><BR/>Nanny Pennington will be an interesting one. She has said she has experienced parents who lost their child before, but never has she seen a parent completely losing it like Kate McCann, I am not sure that will be helpful to Kate. <BR/><BR/>Another sad and disastrous strategy, brought on by sheer desperation at their position by the looks of things. Presumably the Daily Express got their facts straight about "60" but I guess even if they did not the McCanns are hardly likely to sue them for saying that!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-52003404050427133072008-04-06T00:32:00.001+01:002008-04-06T00:32:00.001+01:00it looks like a lot of witneses for the McCanns in...it looks like a lot of witneses for the McCanns in that lot. No lawyers either,must not be expecting an revelations then if thats true as well. If the Tapas are crucial to the case why no lawyers especially if PJ believe they know something? Most oddJoehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15247401239046428090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-53849549558068240992008-04-06T00:32:00.000+01:002008-04-06T00:32:00.000+01:00Bon soir, Lux. Am happy to alight the stairs with ...Bon soir, Lux. Am happy to alight the stairs with your inspirational words in mind.<BR/><BR/>Justice. May it be so, however long it takes :-)<BR/><BR/>Leighta rahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02023023252328186134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-86653611949277785682008-04-06T00:28:00.000+01:002008-04-06T00:28:00.000+01:00Hi Wizard,I think Viv will correct me if I'm wrong...Hi Wizard,<BR/><BR/>I think Viv will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think what you say about the DE article indicates that there may be a 'cut throat' defence coming up.<BR/><BR/>It's a well known ploy among guilty parties who seek to blame others in order to 'save their own necks', so to speak.<BR/><BR/>Criminal court or libel court. I am convinced that this sorry, sad case will wind up in court, eventually.<BR/><BR/>Ta for highlighting the latest issue, Wizard. On and on this goes...ta rahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02023023252328186134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-21521886610452644872008-04-06T00:24:00.000+01:002008-04-06T00:24:00.000+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.lux_et_veritas_floreanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09683027744967220108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-55820927962899635532008-04-06T00:23:00.000+01:002008-04-06T00:23:00.000+01:00Viv, Sunday Express article copied below in full.M...Viv, Sunday Express article copied below in full.<BR/><BR/>Maddy: Missing since May 3 last year <BR/><BR/>Sunday April 6,2008 <BR/>By Matt Drake <BR/> Have your say(2) <BR/>Up to 60 witnesses will be questioned by police in Britain over Madeleine McCann’s disappearance.<BR/>A series of intensive interviews will start this week after a three-man team of senior Portuguese detectives fly into Leicestershire tomorrow.<BR/><BR/>The trio, led by Paulo Rebelo, the chief investigator in the case, will begin by supervising the quizzing of key witness Jane Tanner.<BR/><BR/>Ms Tanner, 36, claimed she saw a man carrying a girl from the McCanns’ holiday apartment in the Algarve at about 9.15pm.<BR/><BR/>Yet another witness says he was outside the flat in Praia da Luz at the same time but did not see her or the mystery man.<BR/><BR/>After Ms Tanner’s interview, British police, supervised by the Portuguese, will spend three days speaking to remaining members of the Tapas Seven who were dining with Madeleine’s parents when she vanished.<BR/><BR/>No lawyers will be present and friends of the group stressed they are meeting the police voluntarily. They have been warned to expect lengthy bouts of questioning. <BR/><BR/>The group were all dining with Kate and Gerry McCann on the night their daughter vanished on May 3 last year in Praia da Luz.<BR/><BR/>Ms Tanner’s partner Dr Russell O’Brien, 36, from Exeter, was away from the group tending to his sick daughter in the period when Madeleine was snatched.<BR/><BR/>Dr Matthew Oldfield, 37, a hospital consultant from London, and his wife Rachel, 36, a recruitment consultant, were also at the tapas restaurant. <BR/><BR/>David Payne, 41, a cardiovascular researcher from Leicester, was the final person, apart from the McCann family, to see Madeleine. His wife, Fiona, 34, and her mother, Diane Webster, will also be questioned by police in Leicester. <BR/><BR/>Then officers will switch their attention to three separate bands of witnesses who have been singled out by Gerry and Kate McCann as vital.<BR/><BR/>As arguidos, or official suspects, the couple have the right to demand that certain individuals be seen by police if they are believed to hold relevant information. Despite plans for the Portuguese investigators to return home on Friday, British police will mount a full-scale operation in which more than 50 more witnesses will be interviewed. These will include other guests who were staying at the resort, Ocean Club apartments staff and holidaymakers staying nearby.<BR/><BR/>Relatives of the McCanns who visited the Algarve in the weeks after she went missing are understood to be on the list, as are their current spokesman Clarence Mitchell and his predecessor Justine McGuiness.<BR/><BR/>Two sisters who were puzzled by a blond pair of men in their 30s acting strangely at the resort hours before Madeleine went missing are on the interview list.<BR/><BR/>Jayne Jensen, 54, and Annie Wiltshire, 58, said one of the men standing outside the patio doors started to walk down a flight of steps. <BR/><BR/>But when he was seen by divorced mum-of-two Annie, from Maidstone, he retraced his steps and began talking to his friend. <BR/><BR/>Yesterday the McCanns made an emotional plea to Portuguese detectives to clear them in time for the one year anniversary of their daughter’s disappearance. <BR/><BR/>Madeleine’s parents, both 39, hope the unprecedented move to question their friends in Britain will mark an end to their seven-month ordeal as suspects.<BR/><BR/>The couple are desperate to return to Praia da Luz to mark the tragic date with a renewed appeal for information which could unlock the mystery surrounding what happened.<BR/><BR/>Clarence Mitchell confirmed that Kate and Gerry want detectives to lift their arguido status and reveal any evidence they hold.<BR/><BR/>He said they will not return to the Algarve while they are still suspects.<BR/><BR/>He said: “Kate and Gerry want to return to Praia da Luz to reinvigorate our campaign to find Madeleine.”Wizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17210675475868356732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-9417923105606488642008-04-06T00:19:00.000+01:002008-04-06T00:19:00.000+01:00The Express after discussing the proposed T7 inter...The Express after discussing the proposed T7 interviews by the pj say<BR/>“Then officers will switch their attention to three separate bands of witnesses who have been singled out by Gerry and Kate McCann as vital.”<BR/>I would love to know how G & K can say they are vital – clutching at straws imo.<BR/><BR/>I was wondering earlier if this article was to be pro – or anti McCann – well I think it is certainly anti Tanner as it picks out the flaws in her statement and highlights the fact, yet again, her partner was missing when Madeleine disappeared.Wizardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17210675475868356732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-74874968996448278462008-04-06T00:16:00.000+01:002008-04-06T00:16:00.000+01:00Hiya LuxI followed the link and guess what "articl...Hiya Lux<BR/><BR/>I followed the link and guess what "article missing". I think the Daily Express like to play little games!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.com