tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post6892298818933855140..comments2023-10-31T09:28:27.222+00:00Comments on JUSTICE FOR MADDIE AND THE TWINS: THE GREAT DETECTIVE JOHN DOEUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-74558603262418539682008-09-15T01:09:00.000+01:002008-09-15T01:09:00.000+01:00*finger* not figure lol, but throwing a few figure...*finger* not figure lol, but throwing a few figures around must have been on my mind and affected my typing! What serious business these Fund directors are involved in, good luck to the ones who had the decorum to er leave! I think that Smethurst who jumped in and even appeared on the Panorama soap docu looks and acts in a very smutty way and would have a job working as a solicitor elsewhere methinks! Sue me, tee hee, just my opinion, Mr Smethurst:-))))Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-76298664950319434872008-09-15T01:04:00.000+01:002008-09-15T01:04:00.000+01:00just who is it, that is pointing the bribery and c...just who is it, that is pointing the bribery and corruption figure at Mr Grimes, the Portuguese Police, LP and UK government, I believe the two who are organising it all with their many benefactors and advisors who have nothing to do with the police or the government. The only former connection being Mitchell, who is not welcome back as an employee of the government.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-42925502489390907922008-09-15T01:02:00.000+01:002008-09-15T01:02:00.000+01:00but we should remember that this is precisely what...but we should remember that this is precisely what Kate and Gerry McCann admit will happen for helpful information and Clarence Mitchell admitted that M3 had "paid" witnesses. To suggest there is not bribery and corruption involved in this case would be very naive, but that corruption involves the McCanns using their private detectives to harass prosecution witnesses and "paying" defence witnesses which is just not a good idea, at all!<BR/><BR/>xxAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-21588918624633437512008-09-15T00:59:00.000+01:002008-09-15T00:59:00.000+01:00I would just like to add that it is not reasonable...I would just like to add that it is not reasonable to suggest that members of LP or UK gov are seeking to let the McCanns off, they would be committing extremely serious offences e.g. I think they would rather prosecute the McCanns!<BR/><BR/>R v Donald [1997] 2 Cr App R (S) 272 - the defendant was a detective constable who accepted various sums (totalling £18,500) from a man who was the subject of criminal proceedings in return for the disclosure of confidential information about the inquiry and to destroy surveillance logs. He received a sentence of 11 years imprisonment.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-33077120699994218502008-09-15T00:37:00.000+01:002008-09-15T00:37:00.000+01:00Hiya ICTOANYes of course you are right, in such ca...Hiya ICTOAN<BR/><BR/>Yes of course you are right, in such cases Tanner would be charged with perverting the course of justice as a subsidiary offender to the principal ones and there would probably be just one trial encompassing all defendants. <BR/><BR/>My understanding is the Portuguese Police have already categorically stated there was no abduction! It would of course be necessary to produce evidence that Tanner actually intended to pervert the course of justice and I am assuming that ultimately the police would be able to prove this, principally due to her changing her account to implicate Murat but it is hard to hazard a guess what else they may have!<BR/><BR/>xxAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-61376902749955874692008-09-14T23:25:00.000+01:002008-09-14T23:25:00.000+01:00Viv Am I right in thinking that it would not be p...Viv<BR/><BR/> Am I right in thinking that it would not be possible to convict Tanner unless a conviction of the McCanns rules out an abduction.ICantThinkOfANamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10520906079397679498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-88321877505582165122008-09-14T22:58:00.000+01:002008-09-14T22:58:00.000+01:00Hiya allEco, thanks for a great new thread and lov...Hiya all<BR/><BR/>Eco, thanks for a great new thread and lovely to see you back. I have not seen this interview before but agree with almost everything he says which makes a lot of sense.<BR/><BR/>For me, the fact that the McCanns told both their friends and relatives that the shutters were damaged and the window jemmied from a break in to get Madeleine and then had to change their story to say they left the door open always told me quite categorically this couple are a couple of guilty liars! As it progressed of course we also got the contradictory stories from another wicked fantacist, Jane Tanner, not only very wicked to seek to waste police time investigating the death/disappearance of a little girl, but also in her blatant attempts which she later sought to retract on Panorama to frame Robert Murat. I believe she definitely deserves custody for this. Maxine Carr went down and in my book, Tanner's conduct has an additional element to it, in not only seeking to exculpate the guilty man (who Carr was very afraid of ), cause extreme distress and waste police time, Tanner also sought to frame someone who was completely innocent. I think she deserves five years and cannot understand how or why she was persuaded to do this, I can only conclude it may be linked to her own partner's conduct in this matter. As the above article explains you just do not go out and leave a sick child AT ALL EVER, IN FACT YOU NEVER LEAVE A FOUR YEAR OLD ANYWAY!<BR/><BR/>I can only conclude he was assisting Gerry McCann in finding an immediate hiding place for Madeleine's body. Gerry would have pointed out how much trouble they were in, I have no doubt, so Jane felt compelled to "keep a lid on it" as it were. I would not show her any mercy at all if I were the Judge, she is the mother of a little girl the same age and behaved in a callous and sickening way. Would she really want her own child just disposed of in such a terrible way? I do not think so! <BR/><BR/>Totally incredible liars!<BR/><BR/> <BR/><BR/>xxAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-60691458957693547362008-09-14T20:37:00.000+01:002008-09-14T20:37:00.000+01:00Also off for some TV.BBFNAlso off for some TV.<BR/><BR/>BBFNdocmachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870636771018697060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-31525900780232650182008-09-14T20:36:00.000+01:002008-09-14T20:36:00.000+01:00DiWilliam1 has it spot on. Don't expect it to conv...Di<BR/><BR/>William1 has it spot on. Don't expect it to convince anyone with a closed mind however. <BR/><BR/>Like I said a couple of days ago, if the dog/s had reacted in that manner in Murat's apartment and car, any right-thinking person would have had to have believed him to be guilty. I would have been the first to put my hands up.docmachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870636771018697060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-40409782128272180382008-09-14T20:19:00.000+01:002008-09-14T20:19:00.000+01:00Off now to watch some tv.Going back to Wales tomor...Off now to watch some tv.<BR/><BR/>Going back to Wales tomorrow but will catch up there.<BR/><BR/>Enjoy your evening.Dihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336817965235588462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-2574158492944411172008-09-14T20:17:00.000+01:002008-09-14T20:17:00.000+01:00Hopefully the other side will now understand the a...Hopefully the other side will now understand the amazeing abilities of these dogs. <BR/><BR/>Please remember they have 100% track record. In otherwords the dogs are never WRONG!! and more importantly they have NEVER BEEN WRONG!!<BR/><BR/>Wake up!! How much longer are you going to support this couple who have absolutely no loving parental feelings for Madeleine. Kate's words in her diary COMPANION!!<BR/><BR/>If I was describing my daughter it would be, beautiful, full of life and fun, a pleasure to have her in my life, my best friend, if I lost her, my life would never be the same.<BR/><BR/>Sorry Kate are they your words??Dihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336817965235588462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-32796605499447926432008-09-14T19:52:00.000+01:002008-09-14T19:52:00.000+01:00Just saw this posted by William1 on 3A's. It was i...Just saw this posted by William1 on 3A's. It was in answer to why, did the dog handler seem to be guideing the dogs.<BR/><BR/>Hi Nit +Wit,<BR/><BR/>Just read your concern regarding Eddie's handler and the Scenic. I understand why you comment on it, and I'm sure a lot of other people would note this and wonder too. The dog knows it's job, and the scent it is trained to find. It's excited and full of energy and bounce - it's happy to be 'working.' The job of the handler is to aid and guide the dog. If Eddie was sent in without his handler the dog would probably run around from, in this case, car to car, and not properly focus, be easily distracted. The handler must ensure that the dog works thoroughly and is given every chance of locating the scent. The dog will NOT alert if the required scent isn't present, thinking 'Aha, I may get my treat if I pretend the death scent is here..anything for a free bonio!' That is the beauty of using dogs and not humans, who probably would.. So, it is very much required of the handler to persist in focussing the dog and returning it to the object in question, enough times. Even if the handler had commanded Eddie to the Scenic 1001 times - the dog still would NOT have alerted if the death scent was not present. I have asked this question too of my friend who is a Police dog handler. I cant convince you as he did me - but all I can say is he truly convinced me of thisDihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336817965235588462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-4110272359362664882008-09-14T19:25:00.000+01:002008-09-14T19:25:00.000+01:00Birth Registrations in Somerset are done in Bridge...Birth Registrations in Somerset are done in Bridgewater, Shepton Mallet, Taunton, Willton and Yeovil.<BR/><BR/>Exeter is in Devon.<BR/><BR/>Normally registrations are done near to the place of birth.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure what happens to a child born abroad but imagine that would be done at the relevant British Embassy.ICantThinkOfANamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10520906079397679498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-66131902543643147612008-09-14T19:05:00.000+01:002008-09-14T19:05:00.000+01:00I can't quite get my head round this one, but ...I can't quite get my head round this one, but the coincidences of the names Kate & Gerry & McCann & Healy, what are the chances of that bizarre!!Dihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336817965235588462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-22706178233759989582008-09-14T19:02:00.000+01:002008-09-14T19:02:00.000+01:00Posted by Ecolab on 3A'sI never read the Mirro...Posted by Ecolab on 3A's<BR/><BR/>I never read the Mirror forum so never saw this. It is a very odd coincidence!! <BR/><BR/>Posted by Ecolab..<BR/><BR/><BR/>Pulled from the Mirror before it got deleted.<BR/><BR/>This child does seem to have been born some months before Madeleine but it is interesting the birth is registered in Somerset – - - - - - Exeter, Somerset - the home of Tanner and O'Brien! <BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>”I was looking for the birth details of Madeleine, Sean and Amelie on ancestry.co.uk - you can look up the registration details (not actual birth dates) plus mother's maiden names... <BR/><BR/>I found Madeleine, Sean and Amelie, but I also discovered another child registered as being born, in January 2003, to a father whose last name is McCann, and a mother whose last name is Healy. The place is registration is Somerset. <BR/><BR/>I wonder how many McCann - Healy couples there are out there? I looked up marriage records and there is only one couple with those surnames who were married between 1984 and 2005. It is possible the couple with the same last names were not married, so there would be no record. <BR/><BR/>I also looked up death registrations, and there is no record of this child dying between 2003 and 2005. So this child is still alive. <BR/><BR/>I won't post the child's name because of privacy issues. <BR/><BR/>The obvious question comes to mind, if this child is registered in january 2003, and is the daughter of Gerry and Kate, how could Madeleine's birth be registered in June 2003 and her birthday be in May 2003? <BR/><BR/>Were these two children actually twins, and were actually born in January 2003 (not May)? <BR/><BR/>I apologise in advance if this child turns out to be completely unrelated to Gerry and Kate, but it is very interesting nonetheless. "<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>>>>>>>>>>>> <BR/>Rules about birth registration? <BR/><BR/>Civil registrations works like this: <BR/><BR/>A child had to be registered within 42 days after birth at a register office <BR/><BR/>The registers are divided into quarters and then sent to St Catherine's House in London for each quarter Jan- March; April -June; Julyy- September: October - December. <BR/><BR/>So, for example, if a child is born on 15 of March, it may not show up intil the April-June quarter, if they didn't register the child in the month of March. (remembering that they have 42 days to do so)<BR/>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><BR/><BR/>Regards <BR/>M<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>*Justice for MaddieDihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336817965235588462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-10589624237715980822008-09-14T18:36:00.000+01:002008-09-14T18:36:00.000+01:00Good evening allSo milk, biscuits, story, then sil...Good evening all<BR/><BR/>So milk, biscuits, story, then silence. I wonder what was in the milk then??<BR/><BR/>Hi Ecolab<BR/><BR/>You are doing some great investigating, keep up the good work. I await with interest the next microfilm report :o))Dihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06336817965235588462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-16142396315539564232008-09-14T18:29:00.000+01:002008-09-14T18:29:00.000+01:00ICTOAN -LOL!I know one thing - if ever I need repl...ICTOAN -<BR/><BR/>LOL!<BR/><BR/>I know one thing - if ever I need replacement windows again, I'll give his a wide berth! He is a real ducker and diver in my opinion!nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08757653677727421758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-60612079535209761262008-09-14T18:24:00.000+01:002008-09-14T18:24:00.000+01:00NancyHe probably threatened to replace their windo...Nancy<BR/><BR/>He probably threatened to replace their windows with his own product.ICantThinkOfANamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10520906079397679498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-77757137022171233492008-09-14T16:55:00.000+01:002008-09-14T16:55:00.000+01:00Bath Theory -You could be right about the pay-offs...Bath Theory -<BR/><BR/>You could be right about the pay-offs to witnesses and a certain double glazing salesman springs to mind!<BR/><BR/>It might be more than just a pay off though, because after all these witnesses could tell their stories to all the rags and make a lot of money<BR/><BR/>Perhaps it was more threatening than that!!nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08757653677727421758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-38019793562186212062008-09-14T16:52:00.000+01:002008-09-14T16:52:00.000+01:00Ecolab and Docmac -Thanks for the video link to Sk...Ecolab and Docmac -<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the video link to Sky when the McCanns were in Portugal.<BR/><BR/>I thought how glamorous they both looked considering what they were supposed to be going through, and the photo of Kate on the front page of the bog paper today sees her looking completely worry free. It's not the face of a mother completely devastated by the loss of her daughter.<BR/><BR/>Whereas most parents would have aged considerably after their dreadful experience, these two seem to get better looking as time goes by!<BR/><BR/>Pathetic child neglecters.<BR/><BR/>Kate was asked what she would say to Madeleine if she was there.<BR/><BR/>She mumbled something about M knowing that she loved her. <BR/><BR/>A normal grieving Mum would have said something like:<BR/><BR/>"Madeleine darling - we are so sorry we left you to go out and enjoy ourselves every night - it's our fault you were abducted by a paedophile. We are so glad you are back and we won't ever let you out of our sight again!"<BR/><BR/>How anyone can believe a word these two says beggars belief!nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08757653677727421758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-43444325180968955872008-09-14T16:41:00.000+01:002008-09-14T16:41:00.000+01:00In legal advocacy a lawyer will advise and persuad...In legal advocacy a lawyer will advise and persuade third parties their client is in the right. <BR/><BR/>Legal advocates and also PR personnel are trained to listen to what their clients wish to say and explain to others what they need and what they want.<BR/><BR/>These hugely expensive people the Mcscammers have around them are effectively paid to keep them out of prison. <BR/><BR/>In general cases where no body has been found then the evidence would mostly come from eyewitnesses. However, what if you had say a rich backer who personally went to see such eyewitnesses and paid them off. No body no witnesses to testify no time behind bars. <BR/><BR/>Just one further question. Has a rich backer turned up to speak to Eddie & keela yet? <BR/><BR/>JFM - whether 'intentionally' or 'accidentally'bath theoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04454382080442358862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-22489445854531471852008-09-14T16:03:00.000+01:002008-09-14T16:03:00.000+01:00Did anyone notice that Kate quickly skimmed over h...Did anyone notice that Kate quickly skimmed over her 'interview' with the PJ's and failed to mention she didn't answer the questions because her Portuguese lawyer had advised against it! She obviously didn't want to bring that up.nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08757653677727421758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-83264100723799454962008-09-14T15:58:00.000+01:002008-09-14T15:58:00.000+01:00Ecolab -Glad to see you are still on 3A's and it w...Ecolab -<BR/><BR/>Glad to see you are still on 3A's and it was only a thread they pulled!<BR/><BR/>Your English has come on in leaps and bounds too.nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08757653677727421758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-60427280043332850762008-09-14T15:57:00.000+01:002008-09-14T15:57:00.000+01:00Docmac -I have a feeing this diary has been raked ...Docmac -<BR/><BR/>I have a feeing this diary has been raked up to coincide with the printing of GA's story into English. They wanted to get something in print before him.<BR/><BR/>Where Kate said to Madeleine:<BR/><BR/>We would never 'intentionally' do anything to harm you Madeleine. Does that mean it was an accident then Kate?<BR/><BR/>I hope your party is going with a swing!!nancyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08757653677727421758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-46892773340532265362008-09-14T15:18:00.000+01:002008-09-14T15:18:00.000+01:00docmac thanksIt was not the right one, but it has ...docmac thanks<BR/><BR/>It was not the right one, but it has to be close to that date. Found some other stuff, thanks to you.<BR/><BR/>But I do think, it was this interview<BR/><BR/>http://video.news.sky.com/skynews/video/?&videoSourceID=1279448<BR/><BR/>I`ll make a little thing with the one " . . . take us trough your feelings, when someone says, they definitely seen Madeleine"<BR/><BR/>It was something about Gerry seeing a ghost!Ecolabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14106674951775933062noreply@blogger.com