tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post7070192467183705503..comments2023-10-31T09:28:27.222+00:00Comments on JUSTICE FOR MADDIE AND THE TWINS: GOLF FANATIC, BIG DEBTS, IN DENIAL ABOUT HIS OFFENDING!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-21365816694494732222008-02-24T09:17:00.000+00:002008-02-24T09:17:00.000+00:00Thank you Leigh3 for the support.Time 0915 Sunday ...Thank you Leigh3 for the support.<BR/><BR/>Time 0915 Sunday 24 FebICantThinkOfANamehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10520906079397679498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-71127761620904229852008-02-24T00:57:00.000+00:002008-02-24T00:57:00.000+00:00And finally:-For the Troll/AnonyMOUSE chasing docm...And finally:-<BR/>For the Troll/AnonyMOUSE chasing docmac...<BR/>Fetch! Chuck you a piece of cheese...a bit of Vanity Unfair...and you'll chase it. <BR/>Ne'er mind, dumpling provincial wannabe: you'll get your 15' of fame or infamy.<BR/>Such a bore and a chore, you all are: McCann Machine of minor mechanics.<BR/><BR/>Ta for the amusement you give us.<BR/>Leigh3ta rahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02023023252328186134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-66885275449688485682008-02-24T00:07:00.000+00:002008-02-24T00:07:00.000+00:00Choccy!I agree with you. Poor Kate. Poor Madeleine...Choccy!<BR/>I agree with you. Poor Kate. Poor Madeleine.<BR/><BR/>Maybe this post won't turn up. doh!<BR/>Some others in other places do try to steal your name, and benefit from the respect others have for you, but you are inimitable. We know how you write. 'They' cannot fool us.<BR/><BR/>Justice for Madeleine, and every child, in time...<BR/>xota rahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02023023252328186134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-74624441509692790172008-02-23T22:27:00.000+00:002008-02-23T22:27:00.000+00:00On 22 02 08 2345 posted:To my mind, Kate has all t...On 22 02 08 2345 posted:<BR/><BR/>To my mind, Kate has all the hallmarks of an emotionally suppressed/abused wife dragged around by her 'owner' - Gerry. Which reminds me of a vicious response from canthinkofaname on DE weeks ago when I posted this observation. It hit someone hard !! <BR/><BR/>As I have not posted or even read the DX Forum for many weeks and have always generally agreed with 2345 I doubt that I would have made a vicious response. I can only think that someone else was using my Identity.<BR/><BR/>ICantThinkOfAName the Chocolate Fireman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-63046969245953210572008-02-22T13:29:00.000+00:002008-02-22T13:29:00.000+00:00Hiya LGCOur discussion kind of comes full circle! ...Hiya LGC<BR/><BR/>Our discussion kind of comes full circle! The UN find UK are the most unhappy and abused chldren in the developed world. Those children can, but do not necessarily, grow up to be very abusive adults. So we always have a couple of serial killers on the loose. I think it is also mentioning that two women die every single week at the hands of their intimate partner or former partner. In fact it is often when women seek to break off the relatiosnhip they are actually killed because the man feels he is losing control over her or he may cut and scar her face " well no one else is having you". <BR/><BR/>There is a dangerous cycle of abuse and violence in British Society and the suffering of our children, knows no bounds, or what they may, in turn, grow up to become. We know many sex offenders were abused as children. There must be some way to try and better protect children from abuse and break the cycyle of violence. I say again, it is a social issue, not a legal one, putting more laws on the statute books that people are not even aware of is an absurd and impotent cheap political gimmick. We have had years of the labour and tories simply vying with each other to be tough on crime - when are they going to actually tackle the much more difficult issue of being tough on the causes of crime?<BR/><BR/>Viv x <BR/><BR/>Viv xAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-60710337093373561922008-02-22T13:17:00.000+00:002008-02-22T13:17:00.000+00:0013.20P.S. to my comment above...David Wilson also ...13.20<BR/><BR/>P.S. to my comment above...David Wilson also said there are on average 2 serial killers operating in the UK each year, it's just their grisly crimes don't necessarily come to notice until quite some time later. They are responsible for an average of 7 deaths a year.<BR/><BR/>LGCLittleGreyCellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14504720436503284900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-67729198562344519922008-02-22T13:14:00.000+00:002008-02-22T13:14:00.000+00:00Hiya - I agree grief alone does not turn these peo...Hiya - I agree grief alone does not turn these people into monsters. It seems to be a combination of circumstances, where, as a child, they feel overwhelmed by abusive domineering parents. They are little people and they have no power and control to change what is happening to them. Their survival mechanism is to become obsessed about having power and control over others. Their normal emotional development in childhood has been stifled by their fears over their treatment and sense of helplessness. Losing their mom, they were helpless again there was nothing they could do. It seems to be the last stage in the process of making a psycopath, a control freak, who will become a terrifying and dangerous adult. Needing power and control so badly for their sense of well-being such people will seek out jobs that give them this. I have known some very pushy probation officers who have not the slightest interest in the well - being of offenders or taking appropriate steps to control the risk they present to the public. All they want is a job where they are in control. They will push for promotion and rise above the rank of probation officer so that they are in charge of staff and in charge of what happens to offenders. Such people are also attracted to being nurses, doctors, police officers, teachers, they can transfer their own suffering to those they can control and thus boost their very low levels of self-esteem. Men like Gerry McCann may have had a tough and overpowering mom or they may have had a disciplinarian father who beat their mom. <BR/><BR/>Gerry McCann does seem to hate women - and does seem to get particularly angry when attractive women question his authority. It was an attractive young woman who caused him to take the mic off and stomp off and again it was an attractive young woman who said "and do you know Murat". <BR/><BR/>A friend of mine who has worked as both a probation officer and social worker (qualified for both) comments that Kate McCann presents as the typical battered wife, accustomed to doing exactly as she is told, or else. I entirely agree. Gerry McCann is a very dangerous man, only capable of loving himself...malignant self-love or narcissism. He does seem to have traits of this (grandiosity - the Whitehouse picture where he looks in raptures) in addition to fitting the basic psycopathic personality type. The real evil all stems from him IMO - but Kate is far from "normal". I think she may have become "emotionally numb" due to everything she has endured. <BR/><BR/>The pros get very angry about us discussing Kate's injuries - speaks for itself really - we are right!<BR/><BR/>Viv xAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-88193478465663871712008-02-22T12:23:00.000+00:002008-02-22T12:23:00.000+00:0012.25Morning All,I watched David Wilson, the well-...12.25<BR/><BR/>Morning All,<BR/><BR/>I watched David Wilson, the well-known criminologist, on TV this morning - he said that people naturally think that serial killers have some sort of monster quality about them, when actually, they are quite conservative socially, often being policemen, nurses and doctors.<BR/><BR/>If you think about Harold Shipman, Beverley Allit, and that policeman guy who recently killed his ex-wife and her mother, there does seem to be a trend.<BR/><BR/>Given the above, isn't it funny that most people wouldn't dream of suspecting doctors, nurses and policemen? I'm sure many of the general public had a default position of it being inconceivable for K & G to be complicit in their daughter's disappearance before the many inconsistencies and odd facets of the case became so widely known.<BR/><BR/>LGCLittleGreyCellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14504720436503284900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-16596355263223080272008-02-22T11:38:00.000+00:002008-02-22T11:38:00.000+00:00Viv/Leigh 3,There are stark parallels with Steven ...Viv/Leigh 3,<BR/><BR/>There are stark parallels with Steven Wright and Shipman; in a documentary about the latter his killing, and illness, was linked to the death of his mother. Grief alone does not turn a person into a killer does it? It seems to me that both these killers had disorders stemming from their relationships with their mother.<BR/>A deep seated anger/grievance which is later vented on other women.<BR/><BR/>Studying Gerry's behaviour - his mother's last child - he's used to getting his own way; short fused when challenged. He's especially used to woman 'dancing to his tune'; interestingly, it was a glamours woman who asked the question "did you sedate your children" at which he leaped off his seat, ripped off his microphone and stormed off in temper.<BR/><BR/>This revealed a lot about his true character. In his job he's used to dealing with the public; he could have politely said 'no' even if they did sedate their children.<BR/>I think the reason he lost it was that he felt 'challenged' by a female. If so, how tolerant was he with his own daughter, Maddie?<BR/><BR/>To my mind, Kate has all the hallmarks of an emotionally suppressed/abused wife dragged around by her 'owner' - Gerry. Which reminds me of a vicious response from canthinkofaname on DE weeks ago when I posted this observation. It hit someone hard !! <BR/><BR/>From what I've seen, Gerry wants females in their place, meeting HIS needs and doing as they're told without question or argument. I doubt Maddie was as 'difficult' as she's been portrayed. She wasn't loved by her father, probably meant little more than a symbol of his 'manhood'. 11.40 p.m.2345https://www.blogger.com/profile/04247950810805295689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-23928263657671545842008-02-22T02:03:00.000+00:002008-02-22T02:03:00.000+00:00time 2 am ! viv xtime 2 am ! viv xAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-62511233433722186742008-02-22T02:01:00.000+00:002008-02-22T02:01:00.000+00:00Hi IrinaNot only was there no high shelf for Cuddl...Hi Irina<BR/><BR/>Not only was there no high shelf for Cuddlecat to be placed on there was no DNA either! If an intruder had picked this toy up, clearly there would have been. <BR/><BR/>Anon - you display a lack of understanding about DNA! Tiny fragments of a criminal's DNA will always be left at a crime scene that is how they get caught - it could just be a small flake of skin shed by the intruder or a hair, which humans are constantly shedding and there is nothing you can do to stop this, proving the hair has the follicle attached DNA can be extracted from this - anything at all e.g. body fluids that contains human cells. Likewise intruders, leave minute fragments of fibres from their clothing etc. How old are you if you think forensic science has not moved on from the days of simply looking for fingerprints!<BR/><BR/>The only response I ever got was to say my petition had been rejected. I accept the reasons for this - because it went to the heart of an ongoing criminal investigation. I am sure the government lawyers would advise they cannot comment about the McCanns for fear of giving their lawyers the opportunity to argue their right to a fair trial has been denied by even the government making adverse comments about them.<BR/><BR/>I thought this site had gone to bed for the night - hello fellow night owlers:-)<BR/><BR/>Viv xAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-71290557863328348732008-02-22T00:54:00.000+00:002008-02-22T00:54:00.000+00:00Anonymous,That was the quote from Daily Mail: not ...Anonymous,<BR/>That was the quote from Daily Mail: not me. And I do not know if they have the looks, but certainly they do not have consciousness, as they are part of McCanns machene, so as you. Ta, ta, dear.irinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05096197149628613568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-14851912079607379092008-02-22T00:49:00.001+00:002008-02-22T00:49:00.001+00:00Sorry it is so late(12:49pm), I think everybody of...Sorry it is so late(12:49pm), I think everybody off to bed.<BR/>See you tomorrow.irinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05096197149628613568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-34484068082500076162008-02-22T00:49:00.000+00:002008-02-22T00:49:00.000+00:00Fingerprints on a cuddly toy!I hope you at least h...Fingerprints on a cuddly toy!<BR/>I hope you at least have the looks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-32680943519734606072008-02-22T00:48:00.000+00:002008-02-22T00:48:00.000+00:00Viv, did you try to e-mail to the Home Office re: ...Viv, did you try to e-mail to the Home Office re: letters?<BR/>Interesting what would they say.<BR/>They did not reply to me, m.b. because I am not from UK.<BR/><BR/>Did you hear anything about interviews?irinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05096197149628613568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-36091930512324808752008-02-22T00:43:00.000+00:002008-02-22T00:43:00.000+00:00Hello everybody.So strange for last some days to n...Hello everybody.<BR/>So strange for last some days to not to have McCanns propaganda in our faces. So quiet. Like before the storm.<BR/>Anyway, what all the nasties are going to do, as DX have closed McCann's forums?<BR/><BR/>Here is a piece of article from DMail 12th August 2007 about cadly cat and a shelf:<BR/>According to a report in the Sunday Mirror, Kate McCann knew instantly that Madeleine had been abducted when she saw that the toy had been moved from her sleeping daughter's arms and placed on a ledge way beyond the four-year-old's reach. <BR/><BR/>The paper quotes a police source as saying: "When Kate tucked Madeleine up in bed earlier in the evening she had the toy tightly in her arms as she did every night. <BR/><BR/>"So Kate was terrified when she spotted it had been left in a place too high for her to reach. <BR/><BR/>"Kate also noticed the window was wide open and the shutters jammed up. <BR/><BR/>"It was because of these things that she had no doubt Madeleine had been kidnapped and she ran out to scream for help." <BR/><BR/>There was no sign of DNA or fingerprints left on the toy. <BR/><BR/>--------------------------------irinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05096197149628613568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-12928079130369987792008-02-22T00:20:00.000+00:002008-02-22T00:20:00.000+00:00Hiya LeighI googled Bestrest and got her posts alt...Hiya Leigh<BR/><BR/>I googled Bestrest and got her posts although three are deleted and some are a little shorter than they were last night. However here is a good one: <BR/><BR/>Rosiepops<BR/>Published: Thursday February 21,2008 by bestrest <BR/>Here is what Lord Stevens say about Kate McCann claiming Cuddle Cat was placed on a high shelf in the News of the World:<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, the police investigation that started so disastrously has turned to farce. Every apparent stream of evidence has been either missed, fatally compromised or is simply ludicrous. <BR/><BR/>For instance, Mrs McCann being allowed to hang on to Madeleine's favourite toy CuddleCat. Consoling for her, of course, but that's not the point —it had gone to bed with Madeleine, been taken from her and placed on a high shelf, presumably by the abductor. <BR/><BR/>CuddleCat was therefore vital evidence. Even a rookie detective should know it was highly likely an abductor's DNA would be on it. <BR/><BR/>But it was left for Mrs McCann to clutch, her other children to play with and spread Madeleine's DNA around. <BR/><BR/>---------<BR/><BR/>How strange he talks about "evidence" being missed or compromised, given that in October, in Vanity Fair (an interview Kate did not want to co-operate with) Gerry McCann confirms there was no high shelf for Cuddlecat to be placed on. What I think the PJ do not miss is that Kate and Gerry McCann are a couple of liars who contradict each other! Looking back on this we can see that it was Lord Stevens himself who was seeking to create "a farce". This man has a reputation for writing reports skewed not by the truth but by what his paymasters want him to write, as we can see hear! <BR/><BR/>This also raises the spectre of whether this couple really are supporting each other or stabbing in the back!!<BR/><BR/><BR/>Could not have put it better myself - simply fabulous, sweety:-)<BR/><BR/>Viv xAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-34904919204102753162008-02-22T00:11:00.000+00:002008-02-22T00:11:00.000+00:00Diego Garcia, Viv. Interesting politics, don't you...Diego Garcia, Viv. Interesting politics, don't you think? Interesting how political 'friends' fall out when the electorate holds them to account; insists on answers to awkward questions.<BR/><BR/>If the UK Foreign Secretary is forced to make a humiliating statement today about missing information, then why does anyone doubt politicians will quickly discard convenient Mc Mafia...when it suits.<BR/><BR/>Gordon Brown has bigger fish to fry. Uh. To burn. Uh. To incinerate.ta rahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02023023252328186134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-5342311989916392862008-02-21T23:47:00.000+00:002008-02-21T23:47:00.000+00:00Viv,Posts go missing on DE tonight. Google a name,...Viv,<BR/>Posts go missing on DE tonight. Google a name, e.g bestrest daily express. See homepage. Click on the top few posts to whoever, and instead of seeing what s/he wrote, you will see an advertisement. So it looks like the homepage holds last 20 posts, but it doesn't. However, her/his earlier posts are hilarious, just because they cooly get to the point, bang on. Ab fab!<BR/>Interesting...<BR/>Criminal or libel trial for anyone who lied about missing Maddie. I'd bet the house on it :-) Hurrah! <BR/>Time tells all. Even in the case of snakes in the grass like Steve Wright convicted today against all the odds for murderring people the public don't care about: prostitutes, poor little drug addicted girls.So sad.<BR/><BR/>So: do we really think that the public and the criminal justice system is going to forsake Madeleine? I think not. I think liars best get ready for their trial, and penury, no matter how much they dreamt of freedom and riches over the body of one poor little mite, Madeleine Beth McCann...over the body politic: the PEOPLE who defend innocents without fear or favour, no matter how many times we are told that we are wasting our time.<BR/>xota rahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02023023252328186134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-81552177300009332362008-02-21T23:16:00.000+00:002008-02-21T23:16:00.000+00:00Where is docmac?Where is docmac?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-12777473786821321272008-02-21T23:11:00.000+00:002008-02-21T23:11:00.000+00:00Hiya - I look forward to further information about...Hiya - I look forward to further information about the home circumstances of Gerry McCann. I thought it was interesting that so many people thought Wright was just a regular guy - that is the scary thing about psycopaths...they have an uncanny ability to con and deceive...people thought Dr Shipman was a lovely doctor...some people think Gerry McCann is just a really nice regular guy - take a closer look - 3 Arguidos!<BR/><BR/>Viv xAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13507323081802465917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-76824349471137639322008-02-21T22:52:00.000+00:002008-02-21T22:52:00.000+00:00Hi again Viv,I really must go! :-) Anyhoo...Yes, l...Hi again Viv,<BR/>I really must go! :-) Anyhoo...<BR/>Yes, like you, there were aspects of the Wright case that made me think of Maddie. Most importantly: the UKs smallest police force relied on 'old fashioned' methods*, according to the Det Chf Insp in charge, and the DNA just gave the investigation a turbo charge.<BR/>That's scary for modern day criminals who think that crime detection relies only on DNA :-)<BR/><BR/>*e.g.CCTV, and the keen observational skills of investigators, persisting with awkward questions. Hurrah!ta rahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02023023252328186134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-13872566142297675112008-02-21T22:48:00.000+00:002008-02-21T22:48:00.000+00:00Hmmm....and?Hmmm....and?THE3ARGUIDOShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15317124673992203746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8388977942755921926.post-50115351007029644972008-02-21T22:27:00.000+00:002008-02-21T22:27:00.000+00:00Hey, hun!So, what do you make of this last develop...Hey, hun!<BR/>So, what do you make of this last development?Cláudiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03838924744879349478noreply@blogger.com