Although there was no odour of death detected in the childrens' bedroom the PJ file points out the McCanns staged an abduction by placing Cuddlecat on her pillow (below). When the UK Police and PJ searched the McCanns rented villa in July, Eddie signalled the death scent outside this cupboard, inside was Cuddlecat (yes, Kate was supposedly carrying it everywhere with her, turns out there were three!). To be certain the police took the toy outside and let the dog loose again, where he again marked cuddlecat. I think this just shows the most deplorable low cunning, and total lack of love and concern for little Madeleine, even using this toy that Maddie clearly had with her as she lay dead, as a staged prop in the bedroom and for good marketing shots of Kate McCann, even pictured sniffing it. Strange then that in her diaries she now tells us she had to wash it because it was "smelly", surely a retrospective entry Kate, as you desperately try to distance yourself from this incriminating evidence. You did not wash it prior to Eddie smelling it and you did not bother to deny the death scent on this and your own and Madeleine's clothing either, you, a one and a half day a week locum at a GP surgery (not a hospital morgue) encountered no less than six dead bodies, pull the other one!
I would be interested to know when this picture was taken where Kate looks in another world, suspicious? afraid? hunted? and wearing those trousers that were subsequently marked as having cadaver scent on them, along with cuddlecat of course. I wonder if this was the next day, below Kate pitifully tells us she got no sleep, and decided to start searching for her daughter a full eight hours after she noticed her missing at 6 am! Strange that, I was looking for my PARROT immediately and I found him at 4.30 am!I also find it strange that we were clearly told by Phil McCann that she advised Kate to start keeping a diary for Madeleine to read when she is found again. We have also been clearly told that accordingly there is no entry for 3 May but now there is! I just get this feeling that increasingly the McCanns are wanting to start telling us that yes, there was an accident..Kate tells us how she left the children to go and have a shower..This only reinforces my view, that as the barrister for the Chief Constable of Leicestershire Police pointed out, this case is very much still under investigation by them. Could it be that the McCanns know something we do not, the net is closing in around them? So, having abused and ridiculed Goncalo Amaral they now wish to accept his lenient view of the facts, that there was an accident? As we know prosecutors and other police officers have not taken such a lenient view, clearly stating they feel it is a case of homicide.
When reading through this diary that she knew fully well would one day be published, it is full of sickening platitudes, goodnight sweetheart etc, just like we saw repeatedly written by a certain person on the Daily Express, who is still omnipresent, vituperative and hateful. It is also full of just how much she is suffering, there is no indication of genuine guilt or emotion for her situation at all IMO. There is also virtually no mention of Gerry, this seems to fit with the picture I have of this man, unsupportive, cold, calculating. Willing to clean up the mess but no thought of a shoulder to cry on. Even so, Kate tells us she mostly managed to get to sleep by 1 am as though this is late. I consider it very early for a woman who I would not expect to be able to sleep at all, unless she had tranquillisers.
There are some venomous and sarcastic comments, a paedophile was there, that was nice.. I hate the person who took my Madeleine, who has caused all this trouble, now who could that be?
Devout catholic? Well not according to her own family and friends!
Gerry's favourite newspapers, THE NEWS OF THE WORLD
Well, Gerry, I hope you are enjoying the reaction you are getting from your latest publicity stunt! You reap what you sow! As for you Kate, have you shame? No guilt? No remorse? Do you truly believe this contrived "diary" actually demonstrates that?
Viv x
Read Kate McCann's diary
For the first time, the heartbreaking truth that destroys the lies of the Portuguese police
SHEER GRIEF: Kate McCann
PRAYERS: McCann family visit church in Praia da Luz
HAPPIER TIMES: Madeleine on the day she vanished
By Daniel Sanderson, 13/09/2008
TODAY we reveal the secret diary of agonised mum Kate McCann—penned over months as she and husband Gerry struggled to deal with their daughter Madeleine’s abduction.
Her words destroy the litany of lies told by Portuguese cops to paint them as cold and calculating. Kate wrote: “I can’t bear being without Madeleine. It’s like torture— a slow painful death.”
FOR months the Portuguese police leaked carefully selected extracts from Kate McCann’s secret diary, chosen to deliberately paint her and husband Gerry as the ice couple—cold, dispassionate and emotionless in the face of three-year-old Madeleine’s abduction.
Now, for the first time, the News of the World can fill in the blanks and nail those lies. The 135-page journal covering April 28, 2007 to Tuesday, July 31, was passed to us by a reporter in Portugal appalled by the sickening smear campaign against the McCanns.
Kate’s log of the dark days after Madeleine vanished from their holiday flat reveals the true picture of the tortured woman behind the calm, brave face she had to portray in public, as initial disbelief and numbness gave way to desperation and rage. Often she includes touching messages of love to her missing daughter. It confirms the strength Kate drew from her devout Catholic faith—and frankly admits the doubts the trauma forced her to face.
THE entry for the fateful day Madeleine McCann vanished—May 3, 2007—makes chilling reading in her mother’s diary, because it started out so NORMAL.
Mum-of-three Kate, 40, records that it began much like any other since the family arrived at the Mark Warner Ocean Club in Praia da Luz on Portugal’s Algarve coast—one long, happy round of swimming, tennis, kids’ club, games and fun.
But knowing what is about to befall them turns Kate’s simple account of the children’s evening bedtime routine into a tense drama...
THURSDAY, MAY 3: Milk and biscuits for the kids. I left them with this and books and games and went to have a quick shower/wash my hair. M (Madeleine) tired—sitting on my lap—I read the story of Mog (favourite children’s book).
Brush teeth. To the bedroom with the kids. M pulls away and puts her head on pillow. Kisses goodnight for M. Pulled the door to as far as possible without shutting it. Silence.
Dry hair. Put make-up on. Glass of wine. Restaurant.
(During dinner nearby with friends —dubbed the Tapas 7—the group took turns to check the children. At 10pm Kate discovers Madeleine gone. The McCanns and helpers frantically scour the area until 4am.)
FRIDAY, MAY 4: No sleep, Gerry and I started looking through the streets around 06.00 as it was starting to get light. Nobody around. Why not? Desperate.
Minutes seem like hours. Outside of the apartments masses of people asking questions about that night and for descriptions of Madeleine. Long day.
(Then Kate, Gerrry and their seven friends were taken to the Policia Judiciaria, or PJ, headquarters in nearby Portimao to give statements.)
Nobody from the police introduced themselves. Nobody offered us a drink or food. All the police dressed informally and smoking. No sympathy was shown and far from inspiring.
I believe my statement would have been around 15.00 and such. They allowed G (Gerry) to come in with me but seated behind me. Translator present.
The police officer who took us by car to the station was the one asking the questions and afterwards typed the answers on a typewriter. Morose.
We left the police station around 7.30pm to 8pm. After 15 minutes we received a call from the PJ saying we had to go back but they didn’t tell us why. We turned around and flew back at around 200 kilometres an hour. Once again frightening. Did they find her? Please God. Is she dead? Prayers. We arrived—they showed us a photo of a girl they’d forgotten to show us from the close circuit TV footage. Not M. Devastating.
SATURDAY, MAY 12: (Madeleine’s birthday) Madeleine is four years old. Day at resort with holiday group. Special Mass for Madeleine at 18.00 in Praia da Luz.
MONDAY, MAY 14: I slept well last night after a not very good end of the day, frustration with the FLO (Portuguese police family liaison officer) asking me where would my little M be.
I got up at 06.50. I dealt with some trifles and got myself ready for the statement to the press at 08.00.
I tried to put on a slightly more presentable and “healthy” air. Gerry again gave a great performance.
Following on we answered about four questions. I almost responded to the first one asking how we were, but I didn’t. I did answer a question on our possible return home. I replied that obviously I didn’t even think about that. Anyway, it seemed to have gone well. After breakfast and our having left S and A, (twins Sean and Amelie, then aged two) we went to church to pray in silence. Very good, calming.
After getting back I decided to go running—for the first time since THE day (already 11 days ago). I knew that it was going to be physically difficult, but I also knew that I wasn’t going to give up, because it was for Madeleine and also because the level of pain is far higher now.
No cameras or journalists, which was great. I went running towards the beach and then along it and again climbed that hill so steep —without stopping! (I carried a photo of M in my hand to keep me going.) On the last hill past the tennis courts my legs completely weak, but I managed to keep myself walking. I managed to reach the apartment then time to stop—to think—I felt really quite calm.
WEDNESDAY, MAY 23: Gordon Brown (then Chancellor and PM in waiting) called and spoke with Gerry -very kind and giving encouragement.
Feeling a bit emotional afterwards.
SATURDAY, MAY 26: We went to an amusement park with the kids. Some phone calls, emails etc. Not a very good day for either the two of us—some dark thoughts/ frustrations/ desperation creeping in. Some tears.
(Then in a moving little message to Madeleine) I love you so much XXX
SUNDAY, MAY 27: Clarence (Clarence Mitchell, Foreign Office family liaison at the time) spoke to us about a possible trip to the Vatican. It seems that it really is going to happen—main story on the news!
Spoke to Dad. I went for a walk to the beach with Sean and Amelie. Frozen. Beach—slippery, wet feet.
We all had dinner when we got back to the apartment.
We have to keep looking. We have to find you beloved xxxxx.
(Kate signed off the day’s entry by drawing a heart with “I LOVE MADELEINE” inside.)
WEDNESDAY, MAY 30: (After trip to see Pope detailed above) The kids went to bed again around 9pm!!! Low point of tonight—becoming desperate/without hope because of the lack of information. They are acting like they have no leads at all. Very worried.
Tomorrow it will be 4 weeks since Madeleine was taken. Four weeks since we saw our special little girl. We are not certain that we will ever see her again, but know that we have to keep up our hope and strength—for the others, at least. Exhausted.
I love you so much, Madeleine. You must come back! X
FRIDAY, JUNE 1: Quite fed up...I can’t stop thinking about Madeleine, about her fear of pain. How can I go on knowing that her life could have ended like this?
This week I have been quite overtaken by black thoughts. Please, God, bring her back.
Bedtime is becoming more and more of a challenge.
SATURDAY, JUNE 2: I can’t remember today (which is now yesterday!). The morning was spent doing paperwork. I wrote a letter to JK Rowling, asking for her help in keeping M in the public eye. She has a new Harry Potter book which will come out in July. I asked if it would be possible to do something like a bookmark with M on.
An enjoyable afternoon—I never felt so relaxed. I felt it was wrong. S and A had fun and that was important. I also worried about what people might think, like “How can they manage to...?”
It seems that Sean is liking the beach more these days. We had tea in a nearby restaurant—good, despite still thinking that I had to do normal things without feeling guilty. We left around 7.30pm and the kids were completely exhausted.
Fed up again —poor M. Once again it took a long time before S and A were sorted. Finally went to church for 10 minutes.
Private worship (despairing!).
Cried again in bed—I can’t avoid it. I need her close to me. Thinking about her fear of pain breaks my heart. Thinking about paedophiles makes me want to tear at my own skin. I was never in favour of the death penalty, but these people should be kept in a secure place. I wouldn’t even complain if it was in nice surroundings, but, certainly in the case of paedophiles always distanced from any type of contact with children.
Whose human rights are more important? Those of a paedophile or of a vulnerable, defenceless child?
TUESDAY, JUNE 5: Woke up relatively late again, around 7.30am, with a good morning wake-up call from S and A. Adorable!! I just wish it had been all three of them that came into the room. After a shower and breakfast, I took S and A to the Kids’ Club. I asked if they could make birthday cards for their Grandma and Gerry—today is his birthday but I had forgotten which is not surprising!
THURSDAY, JUNE 7: The Press conference went well. People are always asking how we are managing to cope, how we can manage to run a campaign, as if we are strange because we are able to appear calm and controlled and aren’t going under all the time. They know so little. Nobody should judge or criticise because, unless they have already been in this situation, they have NO IDEA how they would be and certainly NO IDEA how painful it is. NO IDEA AT ALL. I love you so much Madeleine xxxx
I can’t bear this. I can’t bear being without Madeleine. It’s like torture—a slow, painful death. I hope her suffering, if she is suffering, is much less. Please God.
SUNDAY, JUNE 17: Cherie Blair (then the Premier’s wife) phoned to find out how we were.
We talked about everything in general, including about them leaving Number 10. She agreed as well to make a 20-second video clip for our broadcast on YouTube about Madeleine and children who have disappeared.
I also had the chance to speak to Tony (then Prime Minister) who told me that we weren’t to hesitate to ask him if there was something he could do to help.
On Sky News tonight they suddenly said the Portuguese police had stated that the crime scene had been contaminated—because of us—and that fundamental evidence had been lost. How dare they insinuate that our daughter’s life could be put in danger because of us. Very angry. Very upset.
I want to speak to someone now, but it’s too late.
I changed my mind and I sent a text message to Ricardo (Portuguese police family liaison officer). I don’t know if was a sensible idea but I feel really annoyed.
My darling little Madeleine, you know that we wouldn’t do anything to put you in danger.
I love you very much and I am in agony right now.
I only have to hope that God helps us all now and that he brings you back to us, safe and sound, very soon.
I need you to come back Madeleine. You are the best thing in my life that has ever happened to me. XXXXX
I ended up feeling very upset. Everything overflowed. Terrified that we might not get Madeleine back. I simply cannot face that. Tears, despair, rage, helplessness. I spoke to Gerry, recited prayers. Please God, bring her back XX
I fell asleep after 1am.
MONDAY, JUNE 18: I spent a few lovely hours with Sean and Amelie building a sandcastle with a moat, getting big hugs from Sean, ice creams.
Shower, lovely meal and a little playtime with the kids.
(But as night closes in Kate’s anguish returns.)
I can’t stand living like this. It’s so painful and distressing. Dear Lord, PLEASE answer our prayers. PLEASE send Madeleine back to us. PLEASE.
I love you so, so much Madeleine, more than anything XXXXX.
TUESDAY, JUNE 19: Last night I didn’t manage to get to sleep until around 1am because I was so upset again. It’s so painful to be without Madeleine and I can’t stand to think that it could be like this forever. This simply cannot happen.
Good night, good night Madeleine,I’m longing to read you a bedtime story again. I love you my little darling X.
I’m longing to read you a bedtime story again. I love you my little darling X.
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 20: There is still no sign of Madeleine. I didn’t feel like it so I decided not to go running.
Went to pick up Gerry from the airport. It was so good to see him. Just before we reached the apartment we saw a man lying in the middle of the street, so we stopped the car and got out. It was no surprise to see that he was drunk (we’ve all been there!) but he recognised Gerry and me immediately. Gerry walked him round to his apartment.
THURSDAY, JUNE 21: I went to the church around 9.20pm to pray a bit by myself, in peace. I got a bit annoyed, I don’t understand why God doesn’t answer my prayers. I think I need a sign of some sort. I miss her so much. It is so painful and I don't feel my life is complete and I won’t ever feel it is complete, if she doesn’t come home. Gerry came down later on to be with me.
Apart from a glass of wine, chocolate and this diary, there’s nothing much else to tell.
I LOVE YOU MADELEINE. GOOD NIGHT GOOD NIGHT X X X.
FRIDAY, JUNE 22: I miss Madeleine loads and that’s a real understatement. Sometimes I think I must have done something so bad. (Then Kate recalls the IVF treatment she needed to get pregnant) It was so difficult and painful ‘trying’ to have Madeleine and now this!!!
Why??? Bad luck??? A sick joke??? And then I think I don’t want to think about me—I’m an adult, but Madeleine, dear, sweet, vulnerable, beautiful Madeleine... and I just feel like screaming. WHY?
Dear Lord, I continue to ask, continue to hope, continue to try to have faith in You. Please help us. Put an end to this nightmare. Please help Madeleine. PLEASE LORD.
Unbearable
Madeleine, I love you with all my heart. You are part of my being and I will never feel whole without you. I hope and pray for the day, hopefully soon, when we will be reunited and together again FOREVER. I miss you so much. I need you. I love you. XXXXXXXXXXX
SATURDAY, JUNE 23: I woke up after 7am hesitating (again!) about going running but eventually I built up enough enthusiasm to convince Gerry that we should go. He ran quite well and without a doubt it was worth us going.
Will we see her again one day? How can this end well now? She’s so precious. God I need you to do something soon. I’m so desperate and suffering so much.
This evening I felt quite low again. It’s the awful uncertainty, helplessness and worry. It’s really unbearable. I only want to be able to hide or hibernate until this is all over and Madeleine is back. Please make sure she’s OK.
The usual—dinner, a few drinks and emails. Good night. Good night my darling, longing to lie down...
SUNDAY, JUNE 24: Oh, Madeleine, I find the nights so difficult and only God knows how things are going to find you. I just want to say, once again, that you have been the most special and amazing thing that ever happened to me.
I’ve never felt such love for another person. I hope and I trust that God and Mary are protecting you and I only know that Dad and I and all your wonderful family and friends will continue to search for you, and we all long for the day when you will be back with us again— FOREVER! XX
Good night. Good night darling. I love you XXXXXXXX
TUESDAY, JUNE 26: I went for a short walk to the shops nearby. I had heard that there was a paedophile there. Nice, isn’t it?
If people informed us about these criminals of course we’d be more cautious and we’d feel safer!
Unfortunately I read two books of messages that had been delivered... There were three horrible ones. One from a former Met Police officer—very insensitive/ cruel and far from constructive! Another said “R.I.P. Maddie”—how appalling!
Well, not surprisingly I was very upset and I went out to the rocks on the beach. I cried a lot and spoke to Madeleine and to God. I was still not ready to go but Gerry was calling me. The police had arrived, as planned, at the apartment. I calmed down and went to the meeting with the police. Everything seems to be so slow. We finished at around 7pm so I went to be with the kids and tell them bedtime stories. I had dinner, had a few drinks despite having said I wanted it without alcohol!! We talked some more.
My darling Madeleine, I feel such fear and dread when I think of you. Every day and every night, it is TOO MUCH. I can only have hope and trust in God and Mary to look after you and bring you back to us soon.
I’m so sorry if I/we let you down. I hope you know how fond of you we are and that we would NEVER do anything intentionally that would put you in danger—of any kind. You are so precious to me. You make me so happy and I miss you so much. Please God, please Mary, keep watch over our sweet Madeleine. Keep her safe and sound and bring her back to us soon! X X
MONDAY, JULY 2: (The day the McCanns had to move from the Ocean Club apartment to a rented house.)
I started to put everything in the suitcases and then I took S and A to the Kids’ Club around 09.20 and then I came back to pack the cases. We moved everything to the house around 10:30. Although now I think that it is a good thing to move to the house—with a bit more privacy—everything feels wrong and painful without Madeleine. I cannot believe that this has happened. She is so loving and I desperately want her back. Sean and Amelie appeared very excited about the “new house” especially with regard to their room. After lunch on the terrace, Gerry filled the Jacuzzi with cold water and the children enjoyed themselves immensely in their “swimming pool”. I went to look for Chinese food for 4.
Oh dear Madeleine, where are you? Are you nearby? Please keep well and be strong, my little one. We are desperate to find you. We love you very much. You are so special. I long to give you the biggest hug in the WORLD!! I miss you so much. I love you so much my dear Madeleine.“
THURSDAY, JULY 5: I got up at 7.15. Gerry went for a run.
NOTHING is or will be as good again without Madeleine.
I am thinking about you a lot, dearest Madeleine, and praying a lot so that we find you soon—alive and unharmed.
Stay strong—you know that we all love you very very very much XXXXX.
FRIDAY, JULY 6: (The day a man was arrested in Holland for a cruel hoax intended to extort £1.3million from the McCanns in return for details of the kidnappers and Madeleine’s location.) I wrote my emails and finished our statement for when the story broke about the Dutch man’s extortion near lunchtime.
He’s 39, unemployed, says that he was bored and wanted to play with our emotions. Bastard. David Miliband (the new Foreign Secretary) phoned Gerry to offer support.
SATURDAY, JULY 7: We had breakfast and got the children ready as usual. At 10.30 the four of us went to the Algarve Shopping Centre.
The plan was to buy sandals and some other things for the children. However the journey was a disaster. We had to stop three times on the way there, since Sean and Amelie were crying alternately.
I began to f
PAIN REVISITED: Kate and Gerry McCann talk ahead of the one year anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance
eel that it had been a wasted day, even though Sean and Amelie had some good goes in Noddy’s car and Popeye’s boat. The return journey was slightly more bearable.
I had a “moment” while we were having lunch. I saw a woman who looked pregnant and I began to think about when I was pregnant with Sean and Amelie. And then it hit me. (Kate then remembers a touching scene from the past.) Madeleine was coming to visit us later that evening, the look of wonder on her face, and afterwards she got in beside me in bed. She was and is so adorable—a real jewel, a real gift. And I painfully miss her.
At around 18.00 went to church. It was good... there was nobody else there. Later Gerry turned up and joined me and we went down as far as the rocks on the beach and talked a little about Madeleine. But I began to feel slightly pessimistic and fearful. Please, my God, prove to us that we are not wrong. But I was feeling worse. Please, my God, let this have a happy ending.
I have been thinking a lot about you today, Madeleine. I am so worried and frightened for you. I can only hope that God has you in his hands and brings you back to us soon. Please, my God, help us, help Madeleine.
We love her and we need her so much, and she loves us and needs us. Please, please, please make it so that we have some good news soon. Good night darling. I love you. (I can hardly wait to say “See you tomorrow.”) XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
THURSDAY, JULY 12: I hate the person who took my Madeleine—the same one who has caused all this trouble, who made us feel worthless and mistrustful and mainly who has frightened my beautiful Madeleine. I will never forgive that person/those people for this. Never.
Today I washed the Cuddle Cat (Madeleine’s favourite soft toy and a constant comfort to heartbroken Kate). I was hoping not to have to do it until Madeleine returns, but it was now quite dirty and smelly, unfortunately without the smell of Madeleine on it. XX
TUESDAY, JULY 17: Finding it very difficult to talk to people from home, unless they are directly involved. It is difficult to show an interest in other people’s lives and children at the moment. I know it sounds horrible, selfish and egocentric, but at the moment I can only think about Madeleine. I don’t want to hear about anyone having babies or getting pregnant (mainly because it was all so very difficult for us). I’m worried about turning into a bitter, angry woman, that would be horrible. Please God bring Madeleine back and let this nightmare end.
Please don’t let our lives be destroyed by this. Please don’t let them hurt Madeleine.
Earlier today I found Amelie in our room looking at photos of Madeleine and she said: “I miss my sister. Where’s my sister?”
I couldn’t believe it. I didn’t realise Amelie’s vocabulary and use of words was so good. I just said: “I miss her too. We’ll find her soon.” What a little sweetheart!
We took turns jumping into the water with the kids, which was great fun. After a DVD and a story it was the twins’ bedtime which didn’t take too long tonight. Madeleine, we are all with you darling.
Keep strong, be patient, we’ll keep on going till we find you. I love you so much. We hope and pray we’ll see you soon.
Goodnight, my darling. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
WEDNESDAY, JULY 18: It was suggested that Madeleine is dead and buried in an area close to the beach, behind the cliff.
What can I say? I feel my body’s on the verge of collapse. How much pain and emotion can one body take? I had a bad afternoon. I was very worried, desperate, extremely on edge. I don’t think I can take any more of this, I really can’t. How much longer will this suffering go on? I need Madeleine ALIVE.
SATURDAY, JULY 21: I continue to feel very low. I miss Madeleine so much. It’s as if a ray of light has disappeared from my life. There’s no doubt that Madeleine is that ray and I miss her more than words can say.
We just wrote our blogs/diaries. Once again those dark thoughts returned, linked with feelings of anxiety, fear and worry. How much longer will we have to cope with this pain?
My poor, poor Madeleine. Why, Lord? My heart aches with so much love for you, Madeleine. I just hate being without you.
(Kate then relives the last time they saw Madeleine in the Ocean Club apartment.)
If I could go back in time, I would. I have clear recollections of that night. You were so tired. After your baths, you sat on my knee and put my wedding ring on your finger. We (me, you, Sean and Amelie) read “Mog” in the living area and then “if you’re happy and you know it”. We all sat down on your bed.
Then you counted the squares on the last page. You were always counting things on pages...always laying your head on your pillow at the same time every night. Madeleine you make me so happy. I just want you home. I love you so much. XXXXXXX
MONDAY, JULY 23: I got up at 7.00 and went running. I was surrounded by a pack of dogs (more or less 12)—it really wasn’t a nice experience. I went to the flat, high part of the cliff as I felt really alone and a little frightened. Please God, don’t let Madeleine be buried here. Please God, make sure she’s alive. Please God, bring her back quickly to us.
I took S and A to the Kids’ Club at 9.45 then I went to church to pray a little on my own.
Every single moment of happiness with Sean and Amelie, who are both so delightful, is mixed with deep sadness. All I want is Madeleine to be safe and happy again.
I spent some time on the internet reading about Sarah Payne (Roy Whiting), Eliz. Smart (Brian Mitchell) and the Peter Voisey case (he abducted a six-year-old girl from the bath in North Tyneside). Really horrible.
Night, night sweetheart. I’m trying to be positive. I need to be because I need to believe that you’re going to come back to me, so I can go back to being truly happy. I love you XXX.
TUESDAY, JULY 24: Sean and Amelie had lots of fun in the Jacuzzi—laughter galore! Carrot sticks and crisps were had by all at teatime.
Oh, darling Madeleine. It pains me to think of you—it causes me such sorrow and I have no idea how you feel. I pray to God that you are well, that you are not hurt. I pray that God keeps you safe and sound and that you’re not afraid, nor in pain.
Please God, answer my prayers and please, please, please bring Madeleine back to us very soon, for our own happiness. Please God.
Madeleine, sweetheart, I love you so much. I can’t stop saying it. Night, night darling. We will keep hoping and having faith in God. XXXXXXX.
Restless
WEDNESDAY, JULY 25: I received some bad news last night. A friend has breast cancer and has just received her first dose of chemotherapy following surgery. Horrible. I will include her in my prayers.
At around 15.30 I went for a run. I had begun to feel restless and worried about Madeleine. It was hot and hard work, but I felt better for having gone.
We returned at around 18.15—the children’s dinner and baths, our dinner.
(and the children’s once again!).
Madeleine, sweetheart, you are the most important thing, the only thing that matters. Words cannot describe how I feel about you nor how restless, tormented, alone, sad and incomplete I feel.
I will continue to hope and pray that you come back to us soon but I don’t want to think about how good it would be to feel something like that—not yet, at least.
I love you so, so much darling. I remember sitting watching you through the glass window when you were having your swimming lessons on a Saturday morning. There you were with your yellow swimsuit, ever so pretty and you were smiling and waving at me, and the tears rolled down my face!
I was and am still so proud of you, Madeleine, and my love for you is never-ending. I can’t stop saying how much I love you dearly. I’m going to try and stay strong for you and you have to do the same. You know we love you and we are going to keep going until we find you again.
All my love, Madeleine. Night, night. Sleep well. May God protect you. XXXXX.
SATURDAY, JULY 28: I got up at 7.30 after a late and disturbed night of sleep.
At around 16.20 we had a dip in the Jacuzzi. Sean and Amelie loved it. After tea I went to the small church. I was a little tearful.
It’s really hard for me not to worry about the small things. I wonder does anyone brush her teeth? She looks so happy in that photo taken on that last day.
I know I’m repeating myself but I can’t stop myself from saying how much I love you, Madeleine. I’ll say it as many times as I need to. You’re so, so special. XXXXX.
TUESDAY, JULY 31: (The day before police seized the diary) I got up early after another late and very disturbed night.
I dropped by the church. I feel better after these short conversations.
I cooked my first meal (since they took Madeleine!!) for dinner tonight.
Please God—make me right. Please God—protect her. Please God—bring her back to us soon!
Night, night Madeleine, by dearest little angel. My sweetheart, my darling, my love, my companion. I love you more than anything. Lots of hugs my darling. I’m going to dream that I’m lying by your side—moments I’ll always cherish and I long to have again.
Sweet dreams my little one. Be strong. Mummy XXXXX.
Pope was so gentle and so sincere
DEVOUT Catholic Kate’s nerves were on edge as she and Gerry prepared to meet the Pope at the Vatican on May 30.
On May 28 she wrote: “I felt somewhat concerned. This is going to be a little too much, I only want Madeleine back and to return to our normal life.”
Two days later her diary recalls: “Pope Benedict XVI arrived in his “pope mobile” waving to everyone. It immediately became clear that he recognised us. He took hold of our hands and he was so gentle, so sincere.
“I thanked him for having allowed us to be there with him. He said he would pray for us and that he would continue to pray for Madeleine and for her safe return. I gave him the photo of Madeleine—he blessed it (with the thumb)—something that we would be able to keep for ever. A shy man but very friendly.
“Very emotional, very positive, very important—charming.
“Please, God, bring back to us little Madeleine. We love her so much and we miss her so much. Please Lord, help us to be united once again shortly as a family.
“Later on, Clarence (Foreign Office family liaison) told me that, before that (meeting the Pope), a butterfly had flown above and had landed on the bow on my hair.
“Following on, it left, but it came back and landed on my lapel. An omen, we hope.”
330 comments:
1 – 200 of 330 Newer› Newest»I wonder how the police knew which clothes to lay out for the dogs to sniff? Could it be they chose the clothes the McCanns were wearing that night, I do think it is possible the above picture is of Kate on 4 May, still in the same clothes.
and what of Madeleine's top, I think there is still far more evidence we do not know about!
THAT NIGHT? Supposedly written on 4 May, then why speak of it as though it were in the past? A dead give away for diaries written up for court proceedings etc, the writer gives themself away by doing this! So every one should have been looking all night, as indeed it was reported they were, but not of course Miss HIgh and Mighty McCann, she seems to give the orders not take them!
FRIDAY, MAY 4: No sleep, Gerry and I started looking through the streets around 06.00 as it was starting to get light. Nobody around. Why not? Desperate.
Minutes seem like hours. Outside of the apartments masses of people asking questions about that night and for descriptions of Madeleine.
Morning Viv :))
I know that photo. Remember you have had it on the front before?
At that time I made a body/face language examination of the picture.
Even if, it is a "still" picture, I still state, that my examination then was correct.
I have been searching, but I can`t find what I wrote.
The picture is from 06 May 2007
Earlier that day, Gerry had a white polo on. Kate didn`t change her clothes that day.
To me Kate looks addicted.
Her pupils are very(micro) small in the early pictures (compared to Gerry), which might indicate that she is addicted to Morphin or a simalar medication, f.ex. Petidin, Ketogan and even Metadon.
In the early pictures(videos) she looks very traumatized, even psykotic to me!
I have some work to do - later off to library. Be back
Be good, hun
M
Morning Doc if you are around..
Kates Diary 14th May "No cameras or journalists, which was great. I went running towards the beach and then along it and again climbed that hill so steep —without stopping! (I carried a photo of M in my hand to keep me going.)" I am sure Madeleine would have been pleased her Mum was out jogging???
So out of their heroines own mouth they were not being hounded constantly by journalists all the time. I can remeber back then how quiet it all was and how they arranged when to speak to the press.
I can still look at this case from both sides as it is not in my intrest for poor Madeleine to be dead (although to think of her in the hands of a peadophile gang is chilling) even if her Father says their is no reason to believe she has been harmed (arrogant unfeeling man)...
That is the problem they have now all the rubbish they have put out is conflicting they have spun themselves into a right mess and cant remeber what and when they said things...
A 3 year old child deserves more than this all children are precious and deserve the truth.
Good morning Viv, Ecolab and Hope!
My parents have some realtives staying and my aunt takes the NotW. I saw the front page and read the first few sentences but didn't read the diary after what the editors said about the PJ. I just knew it was going to be nauseating! Having read most of the above, I now know that I was right to expect that. It all seems very contrived to me. Kate even says that she shouldn't be thinking of herself and should be thinking of "M". Too right Kate! So why have these past 15 months only been about you and Gerry??
Also, this:
"My darling little Madeleine, you know that we wouldn’t do anything to put you in danger"
Right, so leaving a 3 year-old to babysit even younger siblings is never putting Madeleine in danger at all is it?!
There are numerous entries about M not suffering at the hands of paedophiles and how Kate can't bear to think of her pain and suffering, yet, apparently, they think that Madeleine is a live and unharmed??
I agree with Hope in that I really do want to beleive that this is the case and she will come back. However, there is no way that she will be completely unscathed and the possibilty of mental trauma for the rest of her life would be high. I don't beleive that this is ever going to happen though and I find it easier to accept that she had an accident in surroundings that she felt safe and secure in (ie with her parents) and that it was quick, than to think of the horrible, unimaginable suffereng she could have had and could still be suffering at the hands of paedophiles who would have almost certainly have not wanted to keep her alive after her face and eye detail became the most famous child's face in the world.
I hope that the book is out soon here and I think it is imminent. These publishings always seem to come out at very convenient, coincidental times don't they?!
xx
'I’m so sorry if I/we let you down. I hope you know how fond of you we are and that we would NEVER do anything intentionally that would put you in danger—of any kind.'
Hi all,
WTF!
If they ever write a book, who will read it! What utter p*sh. The above Diary, imo, shows them up for the people they are. That read was so boring and the usual me, me, me. Do they honestly think that any intelligent person whilst reading GA's book will have that cr*pola at their side thinking, well this Diary proves there must have been an abductor in the flat that the 3 little kids (then all aged 3 and under) who were left alone night after whilst the parents ate and drank at the Tapas Bar over 100mts away, cos KM says she 'pulled the door to as far as possible without shutting it' and that wonderful British newspaper was right when it printed this 'her words destroy the litany of lies told by Portuguese cops to paint them as cold and calculating'. This charade gets darker and darker every day.
J4M and no more wasting other people's money, Media air time and Press print space, imo, on a pair of boring, nauseating phoneys.
Hi everyone,
Kate said:
"I HATE THE PERSON WHO TOOK MADELEINE AND GAVE US ALL THIS TROUBLE"
As usual, Kate is not worrying about what might be happening to her daughter, but upset about the trouble they are having!!
In my opinion, she gave the game away when she said supposedly to Madeleine:
"We would never 'intentionally' hurt you" - that says to me that it was an accident that they and their tapas pals covered up to save their own necks!
Reading the Dregs of the World's comments on the article yesterday, I wasn't surprised to see that most of the posts were from pros, probably posting a dozen times each because they all more or less said the same! Of course, if it's Gerry's favourite toilet paper, that's obviously why they sold the diaries to them! I cannot believe that an intelligent doctor would buy that rag which I would have thought only appealed to those with a taste for voyeurism and sexual innuendo.
I sent a post which they didn't print, and lots of people on the 3A's said they hadn't printed theirs either!
This has obviously been brought out to beat to print GA's book in English - nothing but a big lying spin in my opinion!
I wish the PJ's would do something about these newspapers who continue to insult them and bring on a hefty lawsuit. However, would anyone act for them in the UK - I doubt it!
It's nothing but a huge cover up between Portugal and the UK and I wouldn't mind betting the Freemasons are also involved, whose arms stretch right across the globe.
The Tapas 9 must be either terrified out of their lives about what might eventually happen to crumble their lives around them, or they are laughing their heads off because they think they have got away with their dastardly deeds, and that includes neglecting all their children as well as Madeleine's disappearance.
The findings of Keela and Eddie should leave no one in any doubt that Madeleine is no longer alive and the reason the McCanns continue to insist she was taken proves to me they are just after making lots of money from this whole tragic affair.
Nx
Good morning all
I'm impressed with the unpoliliteness of portuguese police... don't offer them any drink or food...why not some prawns and wine or tea and cake. It would be usual procedment in every investigation lol.
Today SIC had a program with Moita Flores comentig on the dogs video. Very interesting.
I agree with VIV , Kate seems to preparing to some thing as for ex. an acident IMO2
Hello ALL
Dont worry about what people belive about Madeleine. The fact is she is missing more than likely dead how she died I dont know but I do know what ever happend to that poor child is the fault of Gerry and Kate McCann.
They neglected all three of their children night after night and have spun an abductions story that changed by the hour.
They did not search for their child.
Kate refused to answer simple questions on behalf of her child she cared that much for her. Gerry was not going to but did (I wonder how Kate felt about that).
Their freinds who have no idea either about what being a parent is all about each neglected their own children and even Granny did not give a toss about her grandchild being left home alone.
So let them keep spinning Kates diary is pitiful me me me poor me poor Gerry...
No reason to think Madeleine has been harmed/ we believe she is in the hands of a peadophile ring...
Sick twisted words and sick twisted spin. Let idiots send them money and let that blood money pay for a wild goose chase.
Let each and every sad Tapas memeber try and protect their broken reputations because for every person who smiles at them to their face many of them will think what selfish people they are for neglecting their children.
I hope none of them sleep at night for putting their own self obsesed lives before the life of Madeleine McCann a little girl who deserves the truth.
And if this is not cleared up in the next few years I hope they have all the answeres for their own children about what happend in PDL in 2007 because I dont know how I would look my child in the eye if I was a memeber of this selfish group.
How would you ever install morals in your child when you have none yourself.
I would not swap my concience with any of these loosers one of them one day may do the right thing but I wont hold my breath.
Hope,
Well said! Exactly why I am here.
When I was reading through the excerpts from KM’s diary I have to say I started to feel uncomfortable and embarrassed for her. My reason for this is we know the dogs picked up the scent of death in 5A therefore we know Madeleine was dead before the McCann’s went out to dinner on the night of 3rd May. This premise is based on the 100% record of the dogs involved in the search. Therefore, everything that Kate & Gerry McCann tell us thereafter including entries in the diary are staged. No ifs, no buts but staging. KM’s diary in my opinion is a stage too far!
Whatever the mitigating circumstances in this case imo Madeleine’s disappearance is down to them and it really is a nonsense to spin the story to this nauseating and embarrassing length.
Duart Levy on sosmaddie blog gives a 14 minute video of the dogs search on clothing. It shows Madeleine’s pink top with a very poignant motif of “up up and away” which is picked out by the dog and KM’s checked cut off trousers are also picked out. Does KM really expect us to believe she wears black and white check cut off trouser in England in April to visit recently deceased patients? Please…… I give the link below it you have not seen it. The video leaves no doubt in my mind.
link
Hello All,
I can't bring myself to read much of this rubbish...I mean, here's the entry for the evening Madeleine disappeared:-
'Kisses goodnight for M (Madeleine). Pulled the door to as far as possible without shutting it. Silence. Dry hair. Put make-up on. Glass of wine. Restaurant.'
At what point was this diary entry made? Don't tell me Kate wrote it after Madeleine went missing? (Oh, go on then).
When? That night? (Is it usual for a daily entry to be penned at 8.00pm???)
Perhaps at the time she should have been out looking for her daughter like complete strangers were?
Or was it a year and a half later? (Deadline for a Christmas book?)
Just how many other entries were made after the event?
Well, here's another, since you ask (I know you didn't):-
'Today I washed Cuddle Cat. I was hoping not to do it until Madeleine returns, but it was now quite quite dirty and smelly, unfortunately without the smell of Madeleine on it.'
How neat is that? In one single entry Kate manages to shoehorn in a comment alluding to the fact that people in the future (yeah, right) would think it's extremely strange for her to have washed the toy at all, PLUS a reference to Madeleine's smell having totally evaporated from it...is this woman psychic, tapping into mystical knowledge about the questions people would be asking in the months to come? Mystic Kate?
And they lambasted Piers Morgan for writing his diaries after the event!
Samuel Pepys must be spinning his grave (a different type of spinning to the one that's going on with Kate's tomes, methinks).
Hi Zodiac
Yes it is why I am here and I agree with Wizard it is so humiliating to write such things down the dogs have never had a false positve...
Poor Madeleine deserved so much more...
I repeat again who would you prefer to babysit your children ?
Eddie & Keela or Gerry & Kate
No brainer, Edddie and Keela because they won't get pissed, won't leave your children unattended and would guard your children with their own lives. And if your children did just happen to go missing for a minute they would start searching right away without discussing tactics for hours first.
PS Do you remember...
THE HITLER DIARIES!!!
PS Do you remember...
THE HITLER DIARIES!!!
Wizard,
I have just watched that vid link from 3 A's.
Did anyone notice at a approx 1.54 secs there is a soft toy lying on the floor. It looks like a cuddle cat. Then at about 6 secs or thereafter the dog barks at the cabinet and when the handler opens it there is cuddle cat. Are there two? And those meds left in bedside cabinet, FFS, there were two year old toddlers living in that villa. What about child safety?
'Kisses goodnight for M (Madeleine). Pulled the door to as far as possible without shutting it. Silence. Dry hair. Put make-up on. Glass of wine. Restaurant.'
Was M the only child to get goodnight kisses???
Did she write M, S & A??? When writing about her kids. How detached and how strange.
Zodiac, yes there was more than one cuddles cat I think I remember reading the kids godfather gave then all one. The medication is strange the prescription drugs are made out to Brian Edward Healy and dated the 19th May 07. Did Kate’s father go out to Portugal, I may be wrong but I thought he was to unwell to travel.
Hello Bath Theory,
You forgot to say that Eddie and Keela are more attractive, too...
Bath Theory,
Re: The Hitler Diaries...frankly, 'Allo 'Allo makes more sense than Kate's lamentable attempt to convince us these diaries are genuine.
Leesten carefully, I vill say zees only once - the Madonna with the Small Boobies is a booby...
I was wrong Brian Healy did go out to Portugal. Therefore he took he tablets with him makes sense.
Continuing with the video’s - the video of the dogs search of the villa. The place looks very lived in, even a little untidy, as you would expect with two small children. It’s normality is in stark contrast to apartment 5A which we were told by the pj when they were first arrived was immaculate. Strange that almost as if they were expecting guests!
Hi LGC -
Nice to see you! Mystic Kate indeed!
Did anyone notice Kate said "Whoever took MY Madeleine"
A normal wife would have said OUR Madeleine surely!
Is Madeliene only hers then - poor Gerry didn't get a mention in all that tosh - he must be counting his lucky stars about that!
Hello Nancy,
How are you? Good to see you, too.
Perhaps Madeleine wasn't actually Gerry's..."We have our own children now", GM said at one point after Madeleine had gone missing...
Wizard - I always clean the curtains and scrub down the walls when the police are coming... :)
Hiya all and thanks for the usual great response.
I was just reading what I wrote above and a thought occurred to me. It seems the McCanns provide explanatations for known sightings of THEM. E.g Jane Tanner gives a very similar description to Gerry of an abductor. Above I wrote they started looking for Madeleine at 6 am. I have a recollection there is a witness who saw a couple with a child behaving strangely at that rather unearthly hour as he was coming home from work..what do others think. In a way it kind of makes sense, I understand the police were looking that night until 4.30 am. Did they wait until the coast was clear, so to speak! Who was watchhing the twins, the Paynes hopefully! Not that it troubles Kate and Gerry, even after Maddie got abducted, she rushed off to tell the others, leaving the apartment insecure and those two babes just waiting to be snapped up too by "lurking predators" in that "window of opportunity".
Oh well back to painting the rendering on the yard, what a life!
xxxxxxx
LGC, Of course who wouldn't. LOL
Hi Viv,
Yes, they made a bit of a problem for themselves, didn't they? By reporting Madeleine had been abducted, they mobilized everyone who was willing to go out looking for her. From that moment they had a problem if Madeleine's body had not already been disposed of...
...meaning they could only wait until darkness, and at a reasonable time when everyone else had given up and gone home, to address the physical problem they had.
Why did Gerry ask where the church was in the small hours? Was it the only thing he could think of to give himself some sort of an alibi for being out at that time to someone who caught sight of him?
Wizard,
I have a friend who's a policeman. Now I know why he's so bemused when I'm always tired when he comes over... :)))
Hi LGC you have made me laugh twice !! Just came back after helping my children and read your comments
especially your 'Re: The Hitler Diaries...frankly, 'Allo 'Allo makes more sense than Kate's lamentable attempt to convince us these diaries are genuine.
Leesten carefully, I vill say zees only once - the Madonna with the Small Boobies is a booby...'
These two jokers are near the end me thinks.
Hi Zodiac
'Was M the only child to get goodnight kisses???
Did she write M, S & A??? When writing about her kids. How detached and how strange.'
I NOTICED THAT TOO.
Diary entry made up by me concerning last night with the children. Not quite Adrian Mole standard.
'Last night I put albas oil into the bath whilst I gently flossed my child's teeth. (I won't bother mentioning my other child as the only one who could get me into trouble is this one) I then gently lathered his scalp with the new organic herbal tea tree lavender shampoo from fortnum and masons. Next, I picked the plump extra soft sky blue towel and smelled it. You can't beat Egyptian cotton I thought. At that moment my child (remember I am only talking about my eldest in this diary as the other is obviously considered unworthy) said to me that I was as lovley as apple pie. I realised that this child meant more to me than anything else in the world. It was then I realised I had not got dressed for dinner so I had to leave the extremely young children in the bathroom to sort themselves out. What else could I do, I mean I was having a big meal later that night and needed to look good didn't I. I'm a part time worker on a huge salary but I just don't get enough time to enjoy myself these days.
I don’t know about “Allo, allo” but I sometimes think I’m watching the remake of “Carry on Doctors” and I think you’ll have to agree with me it’s a right old carry on.
BT,
Reading back from most recent. Only got as far as yours, but lololololol!
xx
LGC!!! Lovely to "see" you again. Hope you are well?
Nancy, Gerry didn't get a mention as he was too busy losing a rather large sports bag, a refrigerator, a set of clothes, false teeth, a wirey comedy moustache, bucket, spade, mobile phone and watch to be anywhere near Kate for weeks!
xx
BT
She had to look her best in case the quiz mistress turned up.
Hi Dillie!
Great to see you, too!
I'm very well, thanks, just been a bit busy in my private life.
What's your next move, MSc???
Hello LGC
Where have you been hiding???
You have been missed xxx
Hello Hope!
Under my stone, where I can usually be found (between you and me, George Clooney swore me to secrecy. What can I do?).
How are you?
X LGC
Did anyone see the picture of Kate looking tortured at the top of the diary article in the Dregs of the World? It looks so contrived with not a tear in sight!
The one of her on the front page is much more glamorous - perfect make up, hair, clothes, the typical English rose! Not a care in the world - imagine most parents after all this time without their beloved daughter imagining she was with a paedophile - they would be looking like they'd not slept since the day their daughter disappeared, and they most likely wouldn't have, but Kate and Gerry always manage to look as though they've not got a care in the world.
Maybe she is being groomed for stardom and Gerry is maybe being groomed for high office! After all they've already had their spread in Hello! They've been recognised by the Pope already, and Gerry got an award at the Leicesterhsire Police presentation dinner. You can't get more important than that can you.
They may even market their own perfume and aftershave too - I bet a few of us could come up with very appropriate names for those!!
Oh LGC
Say no more you enjoy your time with George just dont let on to Viv!!!!!
I am fine thanks xxxx
Just read on McCann Files that Kate's diary was written on an A4 pad! Not a diary at all then and there's me thinking she had started it well before May 3rd 2007
At least she didn't rip up the kids' books for a change!
Kate - you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can never, never, fool all of the people all of the time! And cadaver dogs you can never, ever, fool!
In fact, as far as I'm concerned you can TELL IT TO THE MARINES!!
JUSTICE FOR MADELEINE!
Hi Nancy
There are very few pictures of either of them looking like they have a care in the world...
Nothing about this is normal including the fact that they are being praised and worshiped by some when they let their children down in such an unforgivable way and Madeleine does not seem to be as important as them,,,
Hope you are well xxx
Nancy
Was this the A4 pad shown in the PJ photos of the crime scene?
I thought Kate's diary was written on the back of a volume of Grimm's Fairy Tales...
LGC
Why did you write Grim with an extra m's?
ICTOAN,
Good point! LOL!!!
Nancy, "Dregs of the World" - I love it!!
LGC - naughty girl!! Viv will have your guts for garters and Clooney's, well, only Viv knows what she would do with his bits!
MSc is now done and dusted. I should hear about my PhD next but there's no funding at the moment so it won't start until next year unless I can find 30 grand by myself by October. Maybe I should lose my wayward kitten and set up a fund? I only turned my back him whilst I drank a bottle of wine....
I've just got a work offer today. It's voluntary and helps kids get into science. With any luck, it should see me through until the funding arrives :-)
How are you - apart from keeping Mr C occupied?
xx
From the hard copy paper in DK. The paper is sold right after midnight.
Saturday, 5. May.:
A picture of Madeleine and an article.
The picture is this picture, and it is from Reuters:
Madeleine
There are references to both BBC and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
John Hill says: 60 people were looking untill 4:30 in the morning, while police ensured that the border, Spanish police and airports were alerted.
Sunday, 6. May:
Quotes from Gerry McCanns appeal.
An English tourist George Burke says he has seen a suspicious couple carrying a child. It was dark, so he could not describe the couple in detail.
ICTOAN -
I've no doubt it is the same pad!
Just what were the words she wrote in April, before Madeleine's disappearance? The NOTW decided not to print those. Or perhaps there weren't any!
Hands up any Mums of young children, about to go on holiday with three young children under 4, who would be writing a diary. Not many I would hazard a guess. Most Mums would be making lists about what to take and what to leave etc, but Kate McCann, being the exceptional mother she is, was keeping a diary even before they all went to PdeL it seems.
It's a pity she wasn't so organised about the children's welfare while they were there.
Off for the night now folks!
See you all tomorrow!
Meantime, JFM!!
Correct link
Madeleine
Hope it works
Dly,
30 grand??? Oy veh, as we lowly BAs say. Hope the funds are forthcoming, but in the meantime the voluntary job sounds good, albeit with no money, presumably. Do you think there'll be a resurgence in scientific interest now the Hadron thingamagig is in the news?
Oh, just a friendly word, I hardly think one bottle of wine is sufficient to start a fund, you'll need to put away at least another 13...
I'm very well, thanks. Not very happy about the continuation of the wall-to-wall winter we've had this year, but managed to get away to the sun for a week. Though my lovely tan has already faded. Bit I still have the memories!
Nancy,
Most normal mums' A4 pad on holiday would have: Babysitter's tel number (from the complex), Creche telephone number (in case of emergency), local 999 equivalent, shopping list etc!
Ecolab,hi, I tried your link but I got a French holiday site with no pictures. Not sure what has gone wrong!
xx
Hi Dyl
Only 30K !!!!!!!!!!! LOL
Good Luck xxx
LGC, not to worry, another 12 bottles on the way. He is a very cute kitten after all. I could always persuade Zodiac to reappropriate (is that a word?) some of the elephant money too into a very worthy cause ;-)
I've been fascinated in the Hadron thing and although I've tried, I still can't make head nor tails of string thoery - oh well! Think I sort of get what the Higgs Boson is though. Poor Laura (yes, I'm naming her again) didn't want to go to school Wednesday as she was scared she'd end up being sucked into Switzerland. Rotten mum that I am, I made her go, told her I loved her very much and that she should trust me when I say there's absolutely no danger of that happening. She did go and (stupidly) trusted me and now she's as cool as cucumber telling other adults that they're silly being worried!! Kids eh?? God! I'd better do some rapid catching up on elementary particles!! :-)
xx
Ecolab - thanks. It worked that time!
Hello Hope,
Kitten is worth every last penny! Well his fleas think so!
xx
DYL
LOL I am sure it is...
I am off to bed see you soon xxx
Goodnight Hope.
Sleep well. xxx
Just wishing you all a good night.
Boa noite.
xxxx
The diaries that would be worth reading would be the ones written by their immediate family members. If you had been rung up that first night and told that the shutters were forced open BUT NOW you are 100 per cent aware that this news is not true INSIDE YOUR HEART you would know something happened to poor defenceless Madeleine and then what do you think you would feel about your family member.
So the diaries we want published are not fake retrospective journals written to try to keep them out of prison but ones written by people who knew them and Madeleine well.
JFM - whether it was an 'accident' or 'planned intentionally'
FIRMES Y DIGNOS
Goodnight Claudia. I'm off to bed myself so goodnight everyone else.
Seems like an early one tonight!
xx
Dillie,
Sucked into Switzerland? Ohmygod. Well, at least the chocolate would be good.
Watched a series on TV a couple of years ago about String Theory. Very interesting, and I could understand all the words individually, just not the way they were strung together (sorry). My son is doing Physics for A Level now, so good luck to him (shame I won't be able to help him with his homework, eh?)
What colour is your kitten???
X
Night Hope!
X LGC
I'm off too now. George is calling...(sorry Viv - you can have him in the morning!).
:)
LGC, How lovely to see you again!
"Wizard - I always clean the curtains and scrub down the walls when the police are coming... :)"
Well I can do better than that, I have a permanent large pile of refuse ready to take to the nearby tip. So when I know the police are coming, I rip down the curtains, which I am probably sick of anyway, find an old bag or suitcase that has got covered in dust by workmen who have left fingermarks all over my walls, sling the curtains in the old bag and hastily load everything into the boot of my car, including any rotten meat I happen to have grabbed from the fridge and any dirty nappies my daughter in law dropped behind the sofa, then I go and dump it all down the tip. I have been there so many times the workers at the tip know me. As far as the walls are concerned, I cannot be bothered to clean finger marked and stained walls I just get a hammer and smash the offending plaster, then I call the plasterers back and say hey you did not do this very well did you. This may take time, I insist the police give me plenty of notice because I am not as fast with a hammer as I used to be :-)))
I think there is some sort of conspiracy going on that you are using George and trying to conceal this from me, I have made notes on an A4 pad and I might sell this if the plasterers decide I have to pay for the damage to their work, I have the forethought to realise this could go for big bucks, Yes I am even thinking of the US, they may have a recession going on but there is still plenty of new media money to had and I like having it. When I run short of ideas I check out what Kate and Gerry are up to, this gets me top tips because they have a lot of professional advice, and I can just copy it for free!
xxxxxxx
BT
"fake retrospective journals"
well that is the posh way of putting it, journals kind of implies there might be some worthwhile literary content, Miss Healy was a tad disappointing there! She even sounded like Rosiepops, "be strong sweetheart" ugh! Yes, fight off those fake futuristic paedophiles there's a good girl!
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I find the article below from 10 May 2007 very interesting, FOR THE SECOND TIME Police search McCann apt with sniffer dogs, with them choosing to remain at the police station during this time. Not only does this confirm the suspicions against McCanns from the outset it may explain why the police knew it was right to search the apartment again with the expert dogs Eddie and Keela. As we know dogs had picked up a trail of Madeleine leading around the apt and down to the beach, I believe going by the church en route.
John McCann's comments are extrordinary. Someone has clearly decided that it is not just Philomena that needs to shut up, when did we last hear from him.
"If you look at the layout of that place, it was entirely safe. The issue at stake here was, that the flat was broken into, and wee Madeleine was abducted,"
Well John McCann unlike you the police did not find that leaving three little children in a flat siding onto a main road with a window with a large drop onto that road and access at front and rear also was safe at all. In fact Goncalo believes it is possible Maddie saw and heard her father and may have fell that big drop down into the road. The trouble with rushing in engaging mouth before brain, is that perhaps stories had not been completely synchronized, you see there was no evidence whatsoever of any break in, or abduction, so your powers of insight, deduction and appropriate child care for tiny tots are seriously lacking on all fronts!
I was also interested to read that even at this stage we were flying out senior Police Officers, clearly not just from LP, experienced in child murder. That really says a lot I think as to what the police felt had happened. Given the witness accounts about Gerry and Payne's inappropriate conversations about sexualised behaviour and children I wonder if this as why CEOP were also immediately involved!
I would say to Kate and Gerry McCann, you can start calling it an accident instead of an abduction now if you like, but one thing is clear, there is no let up for you until we see justice for your dead little girl, for which we hold you entirely responsible, no more fantasies, we have heard enough! More than enough!!! Stop selling yourselves and your dead little girl, people are repulsed!
JUSTICE FOR MADELEINE !!!
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Thursday, 10 May 2007, 21:48 GMT 22:48 UK
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CCTV checked in Madeleine search
Madeleine has been missing for a week
Police in Portugal hunting for missing British girl Madeleine McCann are checking several CCTV images.
Chief Inspector Olegario de Sousa held a news conference to give more details of the search for the three-year-old.
He said the ground search was being scaled back as the results had been "zero", and no arrests had been made.
Items of clothing found locally did not belong to Madeleine, he said. A picture of the pyjamas she was wearing when she vanished has been released.
Madeleine, of Rothley, Leicestershire, disappeared from an apartment in Praia da Luz, in the Algarve, a week ago.
Map of resort
Police with dogs searched the McCann's apartment again on Thursday evening, while the family chose to remain at a police station outside the Algarve town.
Police said it is the final time they will search the block to look for clues. The wider search in the area will end in the next few days.
Mr Sousa said Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, and several of their British friends had been interviewed again on Thursday, but there were "no suspicions on them".
On scaling back the ground search, he said police and volunteers had searched a 200sq-km (77sq-mile) area - and some locations more than once.
Madeleine was wearing pink Eeyore pyjamas when she disappeared
Mr Sousa insisted he was doing everything he could to find the little girl, but so far from the ground search "the results are zero".
Local media have been reporting that police had examined footage taken at a petrol station, thought to be of two men and a woman driving a car with a British number plate, on the night of the Madeleine's disappearance.
And in the UK, Crimestoppers said it had passed on 35 "useful pieces of information" to Leicester police, who lead the UK side of the inquiry.
Police refused to confirm or deny reports about any possible leads, citing Portuguese law which prohibits them from releasing any information about an ongoing investigation.
But Mr Sousa did say "images of video surveillance" had been collected from several locations "in order to check possible leads that may have been recorded".
Investigators had asked locals if they recognised an image of a possible suspect, described by one shopkeeper as being very sketchy and looking only like "an egg with hair".
Prayer vigils
Madeleine's mother has attended a church service for her daughter in Praia da Luz.
Another service was held later on Merseyside, organised by friends of the family and led by Father Paul Seddon, who married the McCanns and baptised Madeleine.
Madeleine hunt in pictures
Show reconsiders kidnap plot
City vigil for Madeleine
On Friday, a vigil is planned in Glasgow, where Madeleine's father comes from.
And Celtic and Aberdeen footballers will show their support for the McCann family by wearing yellow armbands during their match on Saturday.
Earlier, photographs of Madeleine wearing an Everton FC shirt were released by the club.
Team captain Phil Neville said: "Everton has fans all over the world and I know that they, along with everyone connected with the football club, are hoping and praying for Madeleine's safe return."
'Entirely safe'
Madeleine's grandmother, Susan Healy, from Liverpool, said Portuguese police made mistakes at the start of their investigation, possibly because they were "inexperienced".
However, the British ambassador to Portugal, John Buck, said he had been assured by Portuguese authorities that "everything possible" was being done.
Police have taken CCTV footage from this petrol station close to Praia da Luz
Meanwhile, Madeleine's uncle, John McCann, from Glasgow, countered criticism from those who say the couple were wrong to leave their children alone in their apartment while they ate dinner at a nearby restaurant.
"If you look at the layout of that place, it was entirely safe. The issue at stake here was, that the flat was broken into, and wee Madeleine was abducted," he told BBC Radio Five Live.
British child abduction experts have flown to Portugal to assist the investigation.
Superintendent Graham Hill of Surrey police, who investigated the disappearance and murder of Surrey schoolgirl, Milly Dowler, is among them.
The UK's Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP), which works to tackle child sex abuse, has launched a poster campaign appealing for information on Madeleine's disappearance.
Blogger Rosiepops tells us:
"Just ask you to think on that to hire the best detectives and to have hired the others BEFORE now, is a strange thing to do if you are guilty of child murder, as you risk being detected by your own detectives!"
I am astounded! The Best Detectives!! Metodo 3?? Taken on by Gerry McCann because they were the only firm that were prepared to countenance his "child abduction by paedophile theory" and as Mr Marco explained to the Sunday Times he then read about paedophiles on the internet, just so that he could be really informed on his subject. Then he bragged he knew exactly where Madeleine and the abductors were and would have her home by Christmas. Set in context "Rosie", your remarks are "simply priceless". By others do you mean M3 who are involved in serious criminal behaviour themselves, I guess so!
So who else do we have on the expert list?
Red Defence International - are they private detectives at all, nope! From their webpage:
Red Defence International – RDI – is an experienced provider of crisis prevention, management and expertise.
Our aim is to safeguard our private and corporate clients and their revenue by creating conditions for them to live and conduct business safely and profitably in challenging and emerging markets and countries. This is achieved through a combination of human, procedural, physical and technical means.
RDI is based in central London, with a presence in Washington DC and Virginia, and representation in the Middle East, Africa and Central America.
As we know, the not so bright, Mr Hallogen, has now resigned as the sole director of that company following a meeting with the Directors of the Find Maddie Fund and is very good at maintaining he has some mystery presence in The States etc. He must have very long legs!
Then we have another expert firm hired by the McCanns, Oakley International. Well are they brill private detectives with all these FBI connections, nope! How weird the sole employee of this er company is also, you guessed it, the not so bright, Mr Hallogen. He does not profess to be a private detective, if he did I think we would shout liar! Judging by his name, he must have the same sick sense of humour as Gerry McCann!
Well, Rosie, dear, I am still trawling through the firms the McCanns have squandered their Find Maddie Fiddle on looking for the er "best private detectives". So, moving on we have:
Hogan International, funny how these one man bands like to profess they have an international business, I call that bullshit, forgive my legalese:-)) Do they have experience in finding missing children, nope, from their webpage, funnily enough, just like M3 they (or should I say he Mr Hogan, Halligen or whatever) profess to be fraud investigators. Well that is perverse but in a way appropriate, Gerry! No denying it "Rosie" look what he says on his webpage:
fraud investigators are particularly active in the areas of intellectual property protection, financial transaction and insurance claim fraud, computer software copyright protection and counter industrial espionage.
Ah, not let me see, intellectual property protection. Would that be the value of Madeleine's image that you talked about then on the Daily Express, you remember, you said the McCanns would want to make sure no other bugger started selling Madeleine dolls like happened with Princess Di without the McCanns getting their hands on all the revenue, um , I can see why they needed Hogan to protect that valuable piece of intellectual property. The thing is us normal people feel using your dead little girl as a "really good marketing ploy" that can pull in millions, until that nasty Goncalo spoiled it all, well, really we just feel that is SICK. Psychopathic to use a more correct word actually.
So, I am still struggling here, "Rosie", do bear with me, looking for these "expert private detectives who could find incriminating evidence against their employees". Well, last on the list we have "Control Risks Group". ARE THEY EXPERTS AT FINDING MISSING CHILDREN THEN, WELL NOPE! From their own webpage again "Rosie" dear: Mind you I think the title of their firm is a dead give away really, Kate and Gerry have been very much into controlling the risks they find themselves in, I mean being arrested for child homicide and disposing of your own child's body, having dumped it in various places is a bit of a risk, anyway here is what Control Risks do:
"Control Risks is an independent, specialist risk consultancy with 27 offices on five continents. We provide advice and services that enable companies, governments and international organisations to accelerate opportunities"
Wow, they truly are an international company, and even have an office in Amsterdam, handy that, but do they locate missing children? Well not according to them, no, but I am sure they have been controlling risks really nicely for Kate and Gerry, or did they give them the boot? Who could blame them, big international firm, reputations are so important, don't you think!
Now if I have missed any of their er private detectives, do please let me know. Whilst you are at it, perhaps you would explain why they have not filed a complaint with LP that Madeleine has been abducted and they as UK citizens want UK Police to find her. Reasonable enough and they would not even need millions to have what they are entitled to, but hey, I guess this is the outfit that actually would "risk being detected by your own detectives". Well there we are, that is one outfit they cannot buy the Police, always available to help, non-criminals and investigate criminals, hence Kate and Gerry go to court against them demanding their file of evidence against them, did not get it though did they!
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JUSTICE FOR MADELEINE,
FAITH IN THE POLICE, THE REAL DETECTIVES !
Viv -
Fantastic riposte to Rosie! That will floor her and hopefully make the others on that site see the glaring holes in her post!!
If you ask me, the McCanns have had their eyes on the main chance with each so called private detective firm they've hired since the word go, and the same with with their world wide media scam!
If they were so desperate to find Madeleine, they would have hired the best missing persons bureau and investigators in the world - they have the money!
Spot on Viv!
Nx
It all depends on what your defintion of 'best' means.
'Best' detectives would never rule out ANY angle in the murder of a young child or an abduction of a young child. They would not dress up opinions as facts and they would KNOW that when a young child vanishes or is likely dead the most significant people to direct their focus at is the parents because it is usually them who end up to have been involved. Thus 'best' detectives would not rule anything out. They most certainly would find it strange that a mother and father would appoint PR advisors and extradition lawyers to represent them.
Of course like any profession there would be police especially retired ones who would be interested in receiving monies in exchange for a friendly article or two.
JFM
Good morning Viv, Nancy, BT and everyone:-)
Just reading through some old Mccannfiles-articles and found this one:
Carole Malone - News of the World, 06 July 2008
Column News of the World (no online link, appears in paper version only)
By Carole Malone
06 July 2008
Do people seriously think that Portuguese and British cops have kept the file on Maddie McCann open for more than a year in order to embarrass, humilliate and torture her perents Kate and Gerry?
Hasn't it occurred to anyone (especially the McCanns)that this file has been left open and questions have continued to be asked because coppers (as inept as some of them have been) really want to find Maddie - preferably alive?
Why should Kate and Gerry get an apology now the case files look like it's about to be closed? It has always been in their best interests to have it kept open so maddie abductors (or killers) can be found. And by closing the file the police aren't saying anyone is guilty or innocent. They are simply saying they can't find or prove who took her.
Yes the police have made stupid mistakes. But then so did Kate and Gerry by leaving their children alone in an unlocked apartment for five nights in a row while they went out eating and drinking with friends. And if the McCanns, as rumors suggest, are not going to be charged with neglect they ought to be grateful.
Because while those charges might not be brought very often in Britain they are routinely brought in other european countries, where society and the legal system seem to value kid safety more than we do. (if you think britain cares about its children ask yourselves why convicted paedophiles are freed by courts to wander among our kids,when even they tell us thay can't be cured).
The tragedy here isn't Kate and Gerry's hurt feelings over the investigation, it's that Maddie's still missing - and closing the file means her abductors have got away scot-free.
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For everyone that were busy with holidays or work in July....
Good morning everyone.
I have just been reading Kate's diary.
Monday May 14th:
I got up at 06.50. I dealt with some trifles( SEAN & AMELIE BY ANY CHANCE)? and got myself ready for the statement to the press at 08.00.
I tried to put on a slightly more presentable and "healthy" air. Gerry again gave a great performance.
Well there we have it then, Kate has admitted what we already knew. This whole sorry saga is just an act. The only problem is they have not memorized their lines properly.
The detectives hired by the McCanns’ were imo a clever ruse to give the impression they were searching high and low for their daughter. In reality they were directing the detectives to look for abductors, international paedophile rings etc – since an aduction didn’t happen and the detectives involved where never allowed to look closer to home its not surprising they never found and positive leads.
Hi all,
Dylan,
'I could always persuade Zodiac to reappropriate (is that a word?) some of the elephant money too into a very worthy cause ;-)'
Now, now you know I am already using the Nellie fund money for a worthy cause. My huge mortgage, worldwide travel, new car, Prada shoes, Prada bags and most importantly my booze and botox... oh! and bin liners for the Nellies. You know if I could help I would, I am sorry if I sound like it is all me, me, me, it's just that I cannot live without all that and to spend the Nellie money on anything else but me just seems ludicrous, although I do love the Nellies. I do help others though, I was driving home from the supermarket with my weekly booze shop the other day and there was a man lying in the middle of the street. I stopped the car and got out, it was no surprise to see that he was drunk (we've all been there!) I helped him up and walked him home. Do you know D, he recognised me immediately (even though he was as pissed as a f*rt and smelt like one!) at first I thought he was morose, he was smoking and said "I know you hen, you urr that Elephant wummin, I donated 10p to your Fund", then I realised he was talking about the Nellies and not referring to my size. I was only doing what everybody does when they see drunk people lying about, he did ming but I am such a caring person that I always put others needs before my own even when I am suffering, I consider myself as a Good Samaritan. So if I ever see you D on a Thursday night worse for wear I promise I will help you home or if I am even drunker than you, you can help me home. You will have no problem getting into my house the door is always unlocked. Just check that my daughter K-D's bedroom door is closed as far as possible without being shut. If the door is not in that position then just to let you know that is a sign that a nasty uninvited abductor could be or has been snooping about the house. Oh and if you don't mind D, I do not sleep very well would you give me 2of the sleeping pills I keep safely in my unlocked bedroom bedside cabinet. You will have to rake through all the other meds to find them, they are in white box with a big sticker saying Z's sleeping tabs and there is usually an unfinished bottle of wine lying around just give me that to wash them down, no need to bother with a glass and please make sure I brush my teeth. I believe as a responsible parent that all meds whether dangerous to children or not should be kept in a bedside cabinet it is well within the bounds of responsible child safety, I have read and seen that some Doctors do that so it must be responsible. I have a little fridge next to my bed also. I keep my trifle's in there for when I wake up early, the sugar in them give me lots of energy. So do not think about eating any as I know exactly how many there are p*ssed or not. D, I have just started to write a Diary. I know it has been over a year since we started our Pandelephant Fund but I feel if I start a Diary of events from a year ago it will be a good marketing ploy and maybe rake in some more cash for me..er..I mean the Nellies. D, no peeking I have just started writing it and have to make it much more appealling commercially, I still have lots of things to make up...er...I mean remember. You know I think I might be the new J.K. Rowleeng!
Hve a great afternoon, all.
Zodiac - loool!!
I've come in from a grey and chilly day with a cold and feeling miserable but you've just put a smile on my face :-)))
Glad to see you are such a kind and generous responsible citizen. One must look after one's fellow citizens and to that effect, I'd be happy to scrape you off of the pavement. I'd even make sure I didn't spill the rest of your gin in doing so! As for the nellies, you're doing a sterling job and I'd like to promote you Executive Treasurer. In that capacity, I'd expect you to be presentable at all times in nothing less than Prada. Please could you also make sure that you have your hair freshly hilighted every two weeks and wear a big cheshire cat's grin. Elephants are very sensitive you know and they're down when you're down. As treasurer, maybe you could allocate some funds to elephant fertility experts such as CAMRA?? If they don't produce the goods then you could always try a less well known organisation/one man band, that has multiple adresses and and changes his name as often as his underwear!
As for the trifles, I promise not to scoff them but I might have to neck half a bottle of your wine before I give it to you to wash your Z's down. I'm a little bit concerned about you keeping your pills in your bedside cabinet, however. I think it would be more responsible of you if you left them with the nippers to look afer just in case you awake in a bit of a confused state and take too many!
Keep up the good work and the "diary" - nudge nudge, wink wink!
LGC - Kitten is black with a white stripe in the middle of his forehead and three white socks. Aw!
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Zodiac -
What very imaginative writing skills you possess - if I were you I'd get in touch with the McCanns. They would be certain to hire you for their next spin off LOL!!!
Di -
Kate - "and got myself ready for my statement to the press"....
That sounds very royal and the sort of thing the Queen would write in her diary. Kate certainly felt she was the bees knees right from the word go!
Nx
Niki -
Thanks for that from the NOTW!
Nice to know that someone on their staff is not fooled by the Tapas 9.
Can't wait for the next sob story from the McCanns. I suppose something else will be pulled out of the woodwork before long. I think they are missing the publicity without Clarence!
I notice there's no word about them wanting the investigation reopened! They know when they are on a safe bet!
I can't wait to read GA's secret of the lie when it comes out in English, but of course Gerry and Kate won't read it because it's too secondary for them.
Nx
Hi VIV
Was reading back to catch up a bit and I couldn't agree more with these words you used
'...For me, the fact that the McCanns told both their friends and relatives that the shutters were damaged and the window jemmied from a break in to get Madeleine and then had to change their story to say they left the door open always told me quite categorically this couple are a couple of guilty liars! As it progressed of course we also got the contradictory stories from another wicked fantacist, Jane Tanner, not only very wicked to seek to waste police time investigating the death/disappearance of a little girl, but also in her blatant attempts which she later sought to retract on Panorama to frame Robert Murat. I believe she definitely deserves custody for this. Maxine Carr went down and in my book, Tanner's conduct has an additional element to it, in not only seeking to exculpate the guilty man (who Carr was very afraid of ), cause extreme distress and waste police time, Tanner also sought to frame someone who was completely innocent. I think she deserves five years and cannot understand how or why she was persuaded to do this, I can only conclude it may be linked to her own partner's conduct in this matter. As the above article explains you just do not go out and leave a sick child AT ALL EVER, IN FACT YOU NEVER LEAVE A FOUR YEAR OLD ANYWAY!
I can only conclude he was assisting Gerry McCann in finding an immediate hiding place for Madeleine's body. Gerry would have pointed out how much trouble they were in, I have no doubt, so Jane felt compelled to "keep a lid on it" as it were. I would not show her any mercy at all if I were the Judge, she is the mother of a little girl the same age and behaved in a callous and sickening way...'
I wonder how many people have refused being MRI scanned by shifty Gerry. I would turn my back on him and insist on a different Doctor to attend to my needs. I wonder what books he now keeps in his hospital locker !!!
Dillie,
Your kitten sounds divine! We have two cats, the latest in a long line of LGC pussycats. They're black, although in the sunlight you can see faint black and brown stripes. Very different personalities, even though they're brothers.
We also have an old penguin, black and white with a red bow tie who thinks he owns the place...
Good evening all
IMO mcCanns don't want to read GA's book because they know well what he tells and they should like other people, mainly in UK , know it to
don't know it*
Hi LGC!!
He is divine and on the other hand, a little devil too! He also has brown stripes that I can just about discern in the sunlight and the texture of the fur is slightly different too. One of the litter was a grey tabby and I half thought my cat's brown stripes might become more obvious as he got bigger but they haven't and he's now 7 months old.
I also have a very unsociable black cat that we thought was a boy for years but when I took it to the vets in August, I was told he's a her!!I never wanted to invade her privacy and have a look! She must be around 11 yrs now but she came to us a stray so it's hard to tell. I may get a couple of kittens next year but it depends on my finances!
I bet that mysterious penguin of yours (now who could that be??) rules the roost though!
xx
Hi BT
Must just say Zodiac and your comments were hilarious, keep them coming :o))
I can't remember was it Oldfield or O'Brien that was supposedly off work prior to going to PDL, something to do with conduct at work. I do think this could be crucial as to why the tapas were drawn into this.
I also believe the Smiths sighting is very important.
I believe the Smiths did see Gerry and he panicked, an alibi was needed so it was agreed JT would come out with her egg head sighting. However, as things progressed and more things came out, to keep the abduction theory going more detail was needed. So now we have a brief description plus the clothes the abductor was wearing, plus the length of his hair. Then we have a full description plus the colour of Madeleine's jammies and so we go on and on, more detail for us to believe there was an abductor. Unfortunately the more lies you tell the more muddled things become. Where is that A4 pad to keep a note of things?
There was no abductor just a sham!!
I have thought to myself and said on here WHY are people not coming out of the woodwork?
The theory I would like to believe is, many people who know the McCann's have in fact contacted all the newspapers with their stories, these stories are lying in waiting for the tide to turn and then finally, we will have JUSTICE FOR MADELEINE, or am I in dream world, I hope not!!
Sorry meant to say Dyl your reply :o))
Gosh, Dyl, weren't you lucky with not having to deal with lots of teeny kittens! Obvoiusly that pussycat's unsocial behaviour extended to male pussycats too.
Opus is now in cheering mode because it's getting colder. Caught him trying to climb into the freezer the other day when the sun was shining, but since the temperature dropped here, he doesn't bother any more. Doesn't chime with one of my cats, who seems to get S.A.D. every year when the weather turns (I'm not kidding!).
Oh, if only I had natural fur...
X
One reason is that if as I believe the witnesses have been bought off by BK's money and little childrens pocket money too then people like this Smith bloke may well keep silent. I hoope I am wrong.
Remember without a body the 'evidence' is basically the testimony of the 'witnesses' and to activate a prison sentence for these two those witnesses will need to testify.
It may well be the 20,000 or so pages not handed over contain the magic words that shaft this grimy, soiled and morally corrupt couple.
PS Thank you Di. I promise another diary entry tomorrow
If you have not seen this posted by Ecolab on 3A's it is worth a read. MCCANNS FLEW OUT WITH EIGHT FRIENDS.
The Guardian, Saturday May 5 2007
“The telephone rang at around 11pm at Trish Cameron's home near Glasgow. She picked it up to hear the voice of her younger brother. "He was distraught, breaking his heart," Mrs Cameron said. "He said: 'Madeleine's been abducted, she's been abducted.'" . . . .
Hundreds of miles away in Portugal's western Algarve Gerald McCann, whose job as a heart surgeon demands a calm, steady nerve, had lost any semblance of control and was crying down the telephone to his older sister. Just an hour earlier he and his wife Kate had returned to their ground floor apartment in the Ocean Club holiday resort to find that three-year-old Madeleine, the little girl they had left asleep in her white pyjamas, had disappeared. . . . .
Their two-year-old twins, Sean and Amelie, lay undisturbed in their cots beside the bed, making the absence of the child they call Maddy all the more haunting. Nothing appeared to have been stolen from the room, but the shutters seemed to have been forced, the window was open and the main door unlocked, according to the family. . . . .
"She is an absolutely beautiful wee blonde girl with blue green eyes," said Mrs Cameron. "Her one distinguishing features is that one of her pupils runs down into the iris of her eye, her right eye." . . . .
Mrs McCann, a GP in Leicester and her husband, who works in the world renowned cardiac unit of Glenfield Hospital, in the city, flew out to the Algarve with eight friends last Saturday for the week-long break. . . . . .
Mrs Cameron said: "Nothing had been touched in the apartment, no valuables taken, no passports. They think someone must have come in the window and gone out the door with her." . . . . .
. . . the manager of the resort, John Hill, said everything was being done to try to trace Madeleine. "It was a very emotional and very frantic night and everyone did a fantastic job of getting involved and trying to search the area," he said. . . . . . "
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/may/0 ... dralaville
So who was the tenth Tapas???????
BT
I can't wait :o))
Where is Doc?
Hope all is well Doc:o)
Hi ALL
Hope you are all well??
I am not sure about bribes? How could you take money to cover the death of a child? If you were going to do it money would not be the motive. I cant think how I would carry on knowing that I was spending money for keeping quiet over any death let alone the death of a child...
Fear would be a reason to keep quiet I suppose but fear of waht I dont know????
xxxx
Hi Di
From the article you posted I have added bracketed comments.
The Guardian, Saturday May 5 2007
“The telephone rang at around 11pm at Trish Cameron's home near Glasgow. (this one is canny I better lay it on here) She picked it up to hear the voice of her younger brother. "He was distraught, breaking his heart," Mrs Cameron said. "He said: 'Madeleine's been abducted, she's been abducted.'" (Dressing up opinions as facts which is part of the national curriculum at primary school level to inform children that when this is done someone is trying to use persuasion)
Hundreds of miles away in Portugal's western Algarve Gerald McCann, whose job as a heart surgeon demands a calm, steady nerve,(aided by 14 bottles) had lost any semblance of control (RADA trained ? )and was crying down the telephone to his older sister. ( I am touched by how all these people are searching for us?)Just an hour earlier he and his wife Kate had returned to their ground floor apartment in the Ocean Club holiday resort to find that three-year-old Madeleine, the little girl they had left asleep ( Did they leave her asleep or otherwise?)in her white pyjamas, had disappeared (by whose hands?). . . . .
Their two-year-old twins, Sean and Amelie, lay undisturbed ( or drugged?)in their cots beside the bed, making the absence of the child they call Maddy ( Further evidence of a lie by Kate) all the more haunting. Nothing appeared to have been stolen from the room,(except Madeleine's DNA ridden sheets) but the shutters seemed to have been forced (Pantomine season here,Oh no they hadn't), the window was open (not according to the resort manager) and the main door unlocked ( but stated otherwise too), according to the family (depending on mood?)
"She is an absolutely beautiful wee blonde girl with blue green eyes," said Mrs Cameron. "Her one distinguishing features is that one of her pupils runs down into the iris of her eye, her right eye." . . . .
Mrs McCann, a GP in Leicester and her husband, who works in the world renowned cardiac unit of Glenfield Hospital, in the city, flew out to the Algarve with eight friends (OOPS TAPAS TEN IS TRUE THEN?)last Saturday for the week-long break. . . . . .
Mrs Cameron said: "Nothing had been touched in the apartment, no valuables taken, no passports.(what about the sheets, blue sports bag?) They think someone must have come in the window (Star trek style?) and gone out the door with her." (Houdini?) . . . . .
. . . the manager of the resort, John Hill, said everything was being done to try to trace Madeleine (including the parents not bothering to move an inch while everyone else searched ?). "It was a very emotional and very frantic night (working out tactics on balconies and the back of book covers?)and everyone did a fantastic job of getting involved (to cover up?)and trying to search the area,"(in order to create chaos) he said. . . . . . "
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/may/0 ... dralaville
Right off for CSI Miami. See you tomorrow
Hi Hope:-)
Agree with you about the bribes.
I am sure I have read that the Smiths did not speek to the Mccann-team? They had made their testemony to the police and even returned to PDL. I think they are doing very right in not "selling" their story to the tabloids. They have told what was to tell to the ones in charge of the investigation.
On another note:
Any X-mas-chocolate in the stores yet?:-)
Hi Nancy
Funny you should say that Sainsbury's has all it's Christmas chocolate and biscuits in today !!!! And Asda are selling tins of Quality Street for £5...
Yes it is good that the Smiths have spoken to the police and not the press or McCanns....
Are you ok???
xxx
BT
What can I say , you have such a ay with words LOL.
Hi hope
Let us all hope the Smiths are not bought off by BK ot others.
Off now to watch TV..
So who do we think the 10th tapas is? I have asbsolutely no idea!
Enjoy your evening and catch you all tomorrow.
Hope:-)
NIKI calling from Greece:):)
We are still on summer-modus. Which means ice-cream in stores still! Around beginning of october the ice-cream is gone (seriously!!!) and chocolate (any chocolate!) is back in stores!
I'm fine, but tired after a busy summer...
Boys have just started the new school-year, so finished late nights and late mornings...
Good night to you and ALL:-)
Niki
I am not looking back I called you Nancy diddnt i??? Sorry... I knew it was you from sunny Greece...
Oh enjoy the ice creme it is far too early for christmas..
sleep well (sorry I need to go to bed too) Lots of love Hopeless xxxx
LGC - at least Opus is enjoying the cold weather! Old girl cat doesn't just shun male suitors, she hates anything and everything that doesn't have food for her on command! Poor kitten gets a hiss and a bat from her paw if he dares to come within five feet of her!
Di, no worries ;-)
Hope, sorry I missed you!
Goodnight everybody, I'm now off to bed and hoping my cold's gone in the morning. Sniff!
xx
Sleep well, everybody.
Had a very busy day and need some rest.
Boa noite.
xxxx
Claudia, sorry I missed you again!
From Correio, 7/9:
Abduction dismissed by the process, most likely murder. McCanns staged an abduction by placing cuddlecat on her pillow which had obviously been with her when she died but there was no odour of death in the childrens' bedroom at all, only in the McCanns' room and behind the sofa. Their conduct is so cold and calculating, even tearing her book to write out their version of events. It is like they have no love or respect for this little girl at all x We do!
Research: CM reveals images of the work of dogs
Plush found by the smell of death
The smell of corpses discovered in the plush of Madeleine McCann was demonstrated when, even placed inside a closed closet, the dog-the pisteiro discovered.
The process of signalling the toy is demonstrated by images of videos of research released by the Morning Post and the moment when the animal's breed springer spaniel, trained to detect the smell death, change the behaviour with a piece of clothing from Kate .
The smell of corpses in the plush was flagged inside the residence occupied by McCann to date, July 2007, but the experts repeated the scenario in care outside the home, where the dog 'Eddie' again to sign.
Given the evidence from the inspection of dogs, widely used in the UK - the English expert Martin Grime ensures that in more than two hundred searches the dogs-pisteiros never gave a false positive result - the Judicial Police questioned Kate and Gerry and represents them as defendants. The authorities were obliged to admit any involvement in the disappearance of the couple's daughter McCann and confront it with elements that could result in prosecution.
Kate McCann, who after the disappearance of Maddie has been done to monitor the entire hand - and a visible - the favorite toy of their daughter, did not deny the fact that two pieces of clothing and plush of their daughter have been flagged by the English dog trained to detect odor of corpses and justified that with the profession: medical argued that while the Health Centre Leicester has witnessed six cases of death in the days immediately preceding the visit to Portugal on vacation.
Evidence MANIPULADAS
The plush was found near the bed where Maddie allegedly slept the night on which disappeared, but in that, unlike the toy, not detected the smell corpses. This has led the Judiciary Police to believe that the location of the crime was manipulated to better justify the thesis of abduction sustained by McCann and the friends.
In an investigation of reports of the inspectors write that the plush was placed on the bed head in time after the disappearance. "There was an intentional change in an attempt to use to simulate the framework of abduction," it says in the process.
MCCANN DESVALORIZAM DOGS
Kate and Gerry McCann remains that Madeleine McCann was abducted the night of May 3, 2007, in the Algarve, and devalue the evidence collected by the research - especially the traces detected by dogs-pisteiros.
"The fragility of these dogs has been proven in a study in the U.S.," McCann said in the interview to 'Express', reiterating the hope of finding his daughter alive: "Queremosencontrá it alive, but dead if we want to know. There is nothing in process indicating that something bad it happened. "
Kate and Gerry say believe "strongly" that Maddie was kidnapped by a man and criticize the former coordinator of the event, Gonçalo Amaral, who defends the thesis of murder. "Their behaviour has been disgraceful," they said, considering that the success of his book is a case of "illicit enrichment".
"Case Of The MCCANN CASE The PONDERAR" (Goncalo Amaral, former coordinator of the event Madeleine McCann)
Morning Post - How do you react to the assertion of McCann that his behavior is shameful?
Gonçalo Amaral - This comes in the wake of a campaign, it is normal that there is such hostility. In such accusations, we should consider ...
-- This means that the process admits McCann?
-- Yes, it is a chance to consider.
-- How do you interpret the devaluation of McCann in relation to the work of dogs?
-- It is a form of defence. For them we are all incompetent, but not so the dogs are seen in the UK, where they are used widely and successfully.
-- 0s McCann told the police that English has more experience in kidnappings ...
-- They can lodge a formal complaint to British police on the kidnapping of their daughter instead walk with private detectives.
APONTAMENTOS
200 SEARCHES
The expert Martin Grime ensures that more than 200 searches in the dog-pisteiros never failed.
VEHICLE
'Eddie' and 'Keela', trained to detect smell of human corpses and blood, sinalizaram between ten vehicles that the car was rented by the couple McCann.
ROBERT MURAT
The cars used by Murat, the first to be accused, were inspected by dogs but nothing was found.
DECISIVOS
The research changed direction after the traces detected by dogs.
NOTES
16 MONTHS: DESAPARECIDA
Madeleine McCann disappeared for 16 months of the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz, Algarve, where he spent holidays with their parents and twin brothers. It was the night of May 3, 2007.
DETECTIVES: 1.2 MILLION
Kate and Gerry McCann, parents of Maddie, ensure that already spent $ 1.2 million, the Fund FindMadeleine, with private research to the disappearance of her daughter.
RESEARCH: WHERE ARQUIVADO
The prosecutor dropped the investigation in July to the disappearance of Maddie. The theory of abduction and was thrown identified as most likely the murder.
The McScammers are almost laughable with their arrogance in thinking we the people of Britain would believe this pile of tosh. Once again we found ourselves saying ...this ain't real.
...My darling little Madeleine, you know that we wouldn’t do anything to put you in danger...
EXCEPT leave you day after day in a strange place in a strange country and night after night in a strange place in an unfamiliar setting at the mercy of fire, accident. Every parent knows that leaving a very young child alone with even younger siblings is extremely dangerous in itself. So stop bullshitting Kate & Gerry. If it was an accident it was caused 1) by your negligence
2) your selfishness
3) Just look at how you handled it afterwards - evil and despicable.
4) Own up to what you know and take the punishment society gives you.
5) You need to take responsibility and then just then you may be able to live your life one day rather than just exist.
6) YOU DON'T FOOL PEOPLE ANYMORE
7) What would Madeleine say to you now if she met you?
8) What do your parents think of your actions?
9) Which rich backers still believe you?
10)Justice For Madeleine
Hitler Diaries were fake and so are these - RETROSPECTIVE nonsense and we all can clearlty see it.
Eddie & Keela never wrong in over 200 'sniffs' but we are meant to believe the McScammers.
Come on Gerry & Kate do the decent thing and tell the authorities everything about that holiday starting with the questions you didn't answer in the police station.
The show is over it is just a matter of time now before you see it.
Morning all!
It's not looking good for the McCanns is it?? I'd like to see how they spin their way out of this one as there can't be many abduction theorists left! Also, the part in the so-called diary about never putting M in danger, how stupid do they think we are??! I find that really insulting. Lesser mortals would know the dangers of leaving children alone and unsupervised, especially when they're tiny. In fact the least likely outcome is an abduction and on those grounds, how "safe" a place feels in terms of the type of people around, is irrelevant. An accident can happen anywhere at any time and accidents don't "choose" to happen at certain times. I'm sorry Kate and Gerry but 15 min checks/ 30 min checks, just aint responsible parenting.
Have a good day all.
xx
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id79.html
Open letter: Wife of Gonçalo Amaral reacts with irony to attack by Kate
17 September 2008 - 00h30
Thanks to Joana Morais for translation
Open letter to Mrs Kate Healy
Dear Madam,
You will forgive my boldness, but after I read your comment (in an interview to Expresso newspaper) concerning Gonçalo Amaral, my husband and the father of my daughters, I cannot avoid sending you these words of gratefulness. For many years, I have been trying to make myself heard in this sentiment that unites us both: "…as a professional and as a person his behaviour has been a disgrace."
Look at it closely:
a) Professionally
- As a Coordinator of Criminal Investigation for the Polícia Judiciária, my husband has always refused to sit around from 9 to 5 in the comfortable chair in his office, as his hierarchical status implies. Instead, he spent the day (and very often, the night) with the investigators on the terrain, coordinating searches, surveillances, apprehensions and other diligences 'in loco'. A disgrace!
But if it was only the fact that he was subject to the weather, it wouldn't be serious, as our climate is not too bad, as you know. The problem is that this dedication to the cause has earned him a non promotion in his career. Indeed, I will explain this to you, even because this case happened when the searches for your daughter were under way. My husband applied to the category of Superior Coordinator, and in between drug apprehensions, sequestrations and homicides, he somehow managed to produce a thesis about drug trafficking by sea, which he defended in Lisbon, in front of a Jury that congratulated him. Full of hope, Gonçalo Amaral returns to the Algarve and awaits the result. To his surprise, he was passed over by other colleagues (real coordinators, truth be told), because he had not been able to score points in the "professional formation" parameter. That's right, Mrs Kate, my husband spent his life working, involved in complex investigations, he was the man who apprehended the highest volumes of drugs in Portugal, but given the fact that he had no time to go to Lisbon to parade himself up and down the corridors of the PJ's Institute, he was not promoted. A disgrace, madam, a disgrace!
- As you probably know, even because you seem like a very well informed person to me, my husband's salary was less than 1.5 times the lowest salary in your country. But as a wife, as a mother and as a Portuguese citizen, I can't complain, because Gonçalo Amaral's salary was equal to 4.5 times the lowest salary in Portugal. But pay attention to the following, which is an example of what I'm going to explain next: At some point, an individual shoots a member of the PSP [urban police] and flees into neighbouring Spain. A PJ team follows him, including my husband. They stayed there for over two weeks. Now at that time, the international expense coverage was around 100 euros. As you can easily imagine, it's not possible to sleep and eat in Spain with this amount of money, much less shortly before Christmas and taking into account that the value will only be paid at around Easter time (if one's lucky). But Gonçalo Amaral never refused, not even for one day, to search for the escaped murderer, relaying the expenses onto our family accounts. And this is just one example among many. At some point in time, I suggested that we should create a fund or something similar to deal with these extraordinary expenses, but he never listened to me. You see, we also have mortgages to pay around here… A disgrace, Mrs Kate, a disgrace!
b) As a person, his behaviour has also been a disgrace, because to begin with we could never distinguish that he even had a personal life, due to the manner in which he dealt with the profession that he embraced. But if my good friend Mrs Kate allows me, I can offer you some examples:
- 5 years ago, a child named Joana "disappeared". Her mother, just like you, Mrs Kate, tried to project the case into the media, but she didn't make it any further than SIC…
Eight days later, came the confessions and the evidence: during an incestuous act between mother and uncle, the child was beaten, then dismembered and her body dumped who knows where. Mother and uncle went to jail, in a process that was coordinated by Gonçalo Amaral and which earned them almost 20 years in jail, each. But let us go a bit back in time. The child died on the 12th of September. On Christmas eve, our family was reunited for prayer, when my husband asked me to prepare a bag with some food and warm clothes, because he had not carried out his Christmas act of penance. Can you, Mrs Kate, imagine where Gonçalo Amaral went on that Christmas night under heavy rain and thunder? He went to the Olhão Prison, where João Cipriano, Joana's uncle, a confessed murderer and a clinically diagnosed psychopath, is detained. According to my husband, to simply offer an alimony to some beggar was not a sacrifice to him. The fact that he embraced and shared his Christmas meal with João Cipriano was the sacrifice that he offered to God, in memory of Joana. Is this not a disgrace? You should also know that every year, on the 12th of September, my husband has a mass celebrated in memory of Joana Isabel Cipriano Guerreiro. He says that nobody will ever remember the poor little girl again. Right, but they remember to unjustly accuse him of actions and crimes that he never committed. Isn't this a disgrace, Mrs Kate?
- There is a last episode that I will report to you, one that I still find hard to talk about. Last year, in May, we started to move our family to Portimão. My husband was supposed to enjoy a holiday period starting on the day after your daughter's disappearance. "For obvious reasons" that didn't happen. I started on a new job, looked for a house, moved house, and tried to integrate our daughters in new schools and new routines. All of this I did alone, without any help from my husband, who for obvious reasons, was looking for your daughter, Mrs Kate. In October, on his birthday, a week after our daughters started school, Gonçalo Amaral was dismissed and returned to Faro. This was supposed to be the time of the family's reunion and it turned out to be another separation. Isn't this a disgrace? Our daughters never managed to understand, and we never managed to explain to them what obvious reasons were those that rewarded in this manner a father who left his own daughters to go looking for a child that he had never met and whose parents had neglected her. It was a pity that my dear friend Mrs Kate was not around anymore at that date, because you could have been very helpful to me in explaining these "obvious reasons" that led to their father's dismissal, to our daughters.
Finally, I can only report to you that intimately, Gonçalo Amaral is precisely what the latinos are famed for: shameless, as my pudency does not allow me to write any further.
I ask you, my good friend, to forgive these confidences from a wife and mother, but I'm certain that you will understand. I finish this letter asking you to send your mother my most sincere praises. She sounded so sincere to me, when during an interview she referred that she felt like slapping the face of the person who left her grandchildren alone. She spoke so openly that she sounded like a genuine Portuguese grandmother…
My dear friend Mrs Kate, without wishing to bother you any further, I would like to request one last favour from you: now that you have started to tell some truths, please continue, and let the world hear the truth that it has been waiting for.
Best regards,
Sofia Leal
Wife and Mother of the Daughters of Gonçalo Amaral
Claudia -
What a wonderfully loyal wife and mother Sofia Leal sounds in her letter to Kate McCann whose selfish and ungrateful, and indeed insulting, attitude to Goncalo Amaral must have made her blood boil at times.
I hope both Kate and Gerry McCann read this and feel thoroughly ashamed of themselves for what the result of their actions (no one elses) have caused to this family.
I hope it will be published in our media, but I won't hold my breath!
Nx
Good afternoon all -
I note that Gerry McCann has not written anything on his blog for a month now!
The last one included the words:
"Of course, whoever is responsibile for Madeleine's abduction must and can be found to prevent them from putting another child and family through the misery we have suffered. We have always believed that this heinous crime could be solved with the help of the public."
Gerry - Considering it's the police and public in almost every country in the globe who have been looking out for Madeleine, doesn't that make you feel a tad bad that you and Kate made a pathetic attempt the morning after the crime when whoever took Madeleine could have got clean away?
I'm afraid that you and Kate are acting just like Don Quijote and tilting at non-existent windmills, because the chances of Madeleine being found alive (assuming she was abducted in the first place, which by now we all consider not to be the case), when you advertised her eye defect immediately you might just as well have signed your daughters death warrant, in my opinion.
Hi Claudia,
I have just read the above letter on the Joan Morais Blogspot. I can understand Sofia Leal's actions and applaud her. Gonçalo Amaral and his wife Sofia Leal are a naturally beautiful looking couple, they look like a real husband and wife. I look forward to buying and reading your husbands book. I hope I can buy it in English print. I respect your husband as a professional but most of all I respect his actions in trying to find J4M and his acts of kindness in memory of João Cipriano. I am not religious however from reading your letter I see you are. God Bless you and your family.
Interview by Mr Amarals' wife on TVI, right now.
Great woman GA's wife. I just watch her interview to TVI.
Doctor Kate H had a lot to learn with her in morals and gignity....
Hi, Mandarinn, yes, Kate has certainly a lot to learn from GA's wife. No errrr, ummm, uhhhh, you know, etc.
Interesting that she said almost all British newspapers have interviewed Mr Amaral, but none of the interviews have been published... Censorship in onw of the oldest democracies?
Claudia
It is a shame and very disturbing to all democracies who considered UK's as a model.IMO disturbing to to british citizens.
However in my opinion bit by bit everything will come out.
Hi Claudia,
Its interesting to know that the British press would not publish any of the interviews with GA.
A fact they no doubt would like to keep very quite about!
mark55 said...
Below is an email I sent to an american expert on cadaver dogs and the reply I received . He talks of scent transfer and a lot of ifs and buts . Certainly he is not convinced . There again he's not a sick twisted individual who has taken an almost pathological dislike to two doctors
From: mark55
Date: Sep 13, 2008 12:12 PM
Dear Sir , Could you settle an argument for me ?
I am not sure if you are familiar with the Maddie McCann case in the UK . She is a little girl who went missing in Portugal last year .
A British trained cadaver dog gave a reaction in her parents hire car and several other places .No remains were found . How conclusive is this ? . Does this show that a cadaver was previously in the car .
Thank you very much ,
Mark
Mark, it all really depends on the training of the dog, as in what types of material the dog was trained or certified in such as: Decomposition, Exposed Blood, Body Fluids etc... It also opens another avenue as in the dogs "Reaction" was it the "Trained Alert" the dog is trained to do when a positive discovery is made or was it only that the dog showed "Interest" in an area. These alot of times are the same questions that the Defense Attorneys ask during evidence suppression hearings. Also another possibility is scent transfer, was there a piece of clothing, or item such as a shovel that may have had direct contact with the body or in close enough proximity to the body to retain scent and move it to the fibers inside of a vehicle. There are alot of "what if's" and alot of variables that would need to be answerd or atleast narrowed down to accurately answer that question. I hope this gave somewhat of an answer, sorry I wasnt able to be more specific. Thanks for the inquiry though.
16 September 2008 20:02
What a child-like e-mail! I suspect Mark wrote both the question and the reply.
However, the 'American cadaver dog expert' - who doesn't seem to know the difference between cadaver and blood dogs - appears not to mind receiving queries from foreign nationals. In that vein, I will believe Mark if he publishes on ST the e-mail address of the 'expert' so that I may send him a link to the videos of Eddie and Keela going about their work and then pose questions relevant to those.
BTW, Mark. After both Eddie and Keela (each insured for £7.5 MILLION - wonder why?) scored 100% in a test devised by the FBI - a test in which the FBI's own dogs scored 30% on average - Martin Grime has been persuaded to move to America with Eddie and Keela when the dogs have completed their work in Jersey. He has been offered a millionaire salary. Interesting?
Wizard, Mrs Amaral said many interesting things. She said Mr Amaral refused a millionaire deal from a British tabloid after the book was already written in which he had to give up any rights regarding the book. He obviouly refused because that could even mean the book would never be published although he would become a very, very rich man. Se also said that he was interviewed by many UK newspapers but that none of the interviews were ever published. And when asked what she knew about the process, she said she wouldn't like to answer that but that she knew enough in case anything happened to her husband.
Very interesting interview.
Have a good afternoon all.
Docmac,
If the e-mail addy of the American expert is published on ST's site he/she should be prepared for 'alot' of e-mails or 'atleast' one from me asking if Fake Trots is still writing her Diar...rhea.
Wonder if Martin Grimes will sue for all the lies regarding Eddie and Keela. The DVD says differently from the mouths of those who try to badmouth the skills of these dogs, imo.
Craig Meehan is free? F*ck me! Is this the state of justice in the UK now? When this story broke I immediately had the feeling both he and Karen were involved in some terrible way. Even argued with Viv about it.
Published similar thoughts regarding Mari-Luz's family. And Christopher Foster. And canoe man. Ain't been wrong yet.
What price K&G?
Hiya Claudia and all
Thanks so much for Sofia Leal's open letter to Kate McCann.
I agree with Zodiac, Sofia and Goncalo are a beautiful couple, but not just from the outside, the only thing that matters to Kate and Gerry, from the inside out they are beautiful people.
The letter brought tears to my eyes and can only agree with Sofia I think the McCanns are now starting to let us know something of the truth in that they seem to be admitting there may have been an accident. From there they need to start acting like better people. Sofia has shown them how!
Justice for all abused little children, and God Bless Goncalo and his family too who only seek this.
Viv x
Hi Zodiac
Martin does not need to sue. The FBI have seen what others 'will not' see. That the methods he has developed to train dogs to a standard of excellence never before seen is worth millions. That alone is embarrassing enough for the dog haters. I don't think he's going to need the cash either.
Sorry for not replying earlier. We are assembling party packs for Saturday :-)
Maybe Mr Ludicrous advised them that if they are going in the direction of finally admitting Maddie died due to an accident, given the overwhelming evidence of that released, he cannot continue to act for them, categorically stating "they are innocent, Madeleine was abducted"... Oh no, that would damages HIS professional reputation and as we know he represents pure goodness and light:-)))
Hi Docmac -
First and foremost in the UK these days, it seems to be justice for the criminal. Our prisons are too overcrowded that's part of the problem. The other thing is, we've gone soft on crime even though when they want the votes it's all about being tough on crime.
I believe people who commit heinous crimes should be prepared to face long sentences. There has to be a deterrent. That awful pervert should still be inside and for a long, long time, after what he put that child and her siblings through.
Not only that, think of the cost of the trial to the taxpayer!
We all know they were trying to copycat the McCanns who have certainly left a trail in their wake!
Oh, a reply from Mark. E-mail address of the expert please.
BBL.
Claudia, I wonder if it was The Daily Express who offered Goncalo an exclusive deal, just floating the possibility.
I have always thought that when the McCanns accepted that half a million they were storing up a load of future trouble from Express Newspapers just like Lord Archer did! I believed and still do, that The Daily Express will serialise this case and very much have the last laugh and make loads of cash, not that it makes them any better but that is the way they work.
I am relieved Goncalo did not enter into any deal with British papers which could, as you say, have meant no publishing at all. Far better we report it all accurately on blogs like this one. There are many others too, unfortunately for Kate and Gerry McCann:-)))
xxxxxx
Hi Docmac,
Mark’s expert. Assuming Mark did not write this himself the correct assessment is there. Mark probably did not give the expert all the facts therefore his reply in multi-factual. We know one of the dogs was trained to detect the scent of a human cadaver and the other the scent of human blood, we saw in the video’s a “trained alert” was given by the dogs not just an interest. The possibility of scent transfer is there but as it is only Madeleine who is missing and presumed dead it can be concluded that it comes from her body which had been in contact with items, like her and Kate’s clothing and cuddles cat etc. The evidence is there and overwhelming so - Mark’s expert in fact concurs. Probably not what Mark wished to prove but prove he did.
Hiya Doc,
I have not read up on the Shannon case much lately but have to say I find it odd that Meehan was only charged with possessing indecent images of children on his computer. It would seem the Police felt he had nothing to do with Shannon's kidnap, but what a dreadful environment for her to have been in!
20 weeks custody is extremely lenient for such an offence, but he was dealt with in the Magistrates Court who cannot give big sentences like the Crown Court. He will now be supervised by both the Police and the Probation Service to make sure he cannot do this again, having to sign on the Sex Offenders Register for seven years. I have a problem with the arbitrary dishing out of a number of years they must sign on. It is extremely difficult to change sex offenders, in most cases they will always present a risk to children and IMO once convicted of such serious offences involving the serious abuse of children should be supervised for life.
I think the problem that Tony Blair said he was going to address, the causes of crime has simply not been addressed at all. We lock up a huge number of people for a long time, and have the highest rate of imprisonment (last time I checked anyway) in Europe, only topped by places like the US. This does not protect children, because sooner or later most of the offenders get released. There has to be a better way, but it is very costly. It involves looking at the problem in the long term, catching child abuse in families early on, before they grow up to do the same!
xxxx
Hi G & K
By the way you might like to read these words from my mate...
..After both Eddie and Keela (each insured for £7.5 MILLION - wonder why?) scored 100% in a test devised by the FBI - a test in which the FBI's own dogs scored 30% on average - Martin Grime has been persuaded to move to America with Eddie and Keela when the dogs have completed their work in Jersey. He has been offered a millionaire salary...
Read it again as these dogs and their owner cannot be bought. Admit your lies, deceit and greed now and then just then you may be able to have a life rather than just exist. Not only do you owe it to Maddy you owe it to Sean and Amelie.
An interesting article in McCannfiles on the 16th September:
British Police will consider whether it is in the public interest to release information about their involvement in the Madeleine McCann inquiry officials said today.
A number of media oganisations made requests under the Freedom of information Act for details about their role in the investigation.
But Leicester Constabulary, which led the British side of the investigation for their Portuguese counterparts, said it must apply the 'public interest test' before agreeing to disclosure.
In a written response, Linda Dempsey, of the force's Data Protection department, said "an initial meeting has now been held and from this we are still in the process of preparing the Public Interest Test regarding the intended response.
It will be necessary to consult with the other agencies to assist in this matter in order for us to give the due consideration that must be given to such a high profile case and the need to balance the needs for disclosure or not. It is clearly mandated in the services code of practice Part 1V that the consultation should take place.
The above is followed by the Statutory Codes of practice.
Watch this space it seems....
I'd like to bring to your attention a thread on 3A entitled:
JILL HAVERN: NHS:MCCANNS:ABUSE OF POWER
http://www.the3arguidos.net/forum/
viewtopic.php?f=35&t=23574&st=0&sk=
t&sd=a
She must be a near neighbour of Viv.
Viv -
You are right - "there has to be a way, but it is very costly"!
Governments should get their priorities right.
One way would be to stop spending billions on going to War. Jaw, jaw, is always better than war, war in my opinion!
I know these terrorists have got to be stopped, but to me it seems so wrong to bomb innocent civilians in order to make a point. Yes, we got rid of Saddam Hussein, but just what are we left with? Future generations will pay the cost I fear.
Hi Claudia
Tell Amaral to invite the interviewers back because this behaviour that
...all British newspapers have interviewed Mr Amaral, but none of the interviews have been published... Censorship in one of the oldest democracies?...
This behaviour may well have changed with Clarence gone.
He was the Central Office of Information big cheeese liasion between government and the media. A powerful position in that they can invoke procedures to STOP things getting printed. They also have to okay every foreign journalist coming to this country amongst other things. Either this was done with Labour's backing or done because Clarence knew the system and pulled in some favours for the couple. Either way he has gone and Brown is not likely to get involved anymore unless his own brother was closely involved.
THUS Amaral should be smart here and invite the same interviewers back and restate what he said originally. He should tape them as well this time.
I am in no doubt that these two will be behind bars in 24 mths time and people like me will feel that Madeleine's voice will have been heard and that other 'dodgy, negligent' parents will think twice before harming their child.
Words from previous input
...British Police will consider whether it is in the public interest to release information about their involvement in the Madeleine McCann inquiry officials said today...
HOW CAN IT NOT BE IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST- A 3YR OLD CHILD HAS VANISHED. AND SOME EXPERT CADAVER DOGS HAVE SNIFFED DEATH.
Prisons overcrowded Zodiac? WTF? Scum like Meehan can sleep on the floor for 10 years. 10 to a cell I say. Don't deserve any better.
Doc
The poor man would have to share a cell with all those militant pensioners who have refused to pay their Council Tax.
Hi Wizard
You are quite correct. I said I 'suspect' Mark wrote both because the information given in the original 'e-mail' was so deliberately vague. As I said, if this 'expert' exists I would like Mark to publish the e-mail address so that we can check the credentials and even the existence of this person. I won't hold my breath...
ICTOAN
Yeah, I see that the cases of pensioners not being able to pay their council taxes are now rushed into court faster than that of the killer of Rhys Jones. When are you leaving again?
Hi BT, Nancy and Viv.
Anonymous said...
They love those dogs so much over there that you could say without a doubt that Vile, Claudia, Nancy and co are all on heat. hee hee
17 September 2008 16:16
What, you find bestiality funny now? What a weirdo.
Still waiting for the e-mail address. I've got the links lined up and it's not lunch time in America yet.
Docmac,
I think your 16.14pm post is for Nancy and not me.
Hope your little one's party on Saturday is all he has dreamed of.
Hiya Doc
I have to agree, you can tell the depravity of the people who inhabit Supertroll's blog by the nature of the comments that are made. This shows their sick and distorted thought processes, no normal person thinks and writes quite the way they do, in that little coven. One consolation it probably only consists of about three people, agreeing with themselves and congratulating their latest depraved post.
They continue to support our cause in a very perverse way, by associating the defence of Kate and Gerry McCann with their sick and perverted thought processes.
Good work on asking "Mark" to name his source, but did it not occur to him that transference means there must be a corpse for it to transfer from! Think about it Mark, if you can, Madeleine is lying with her cuddlecat, yes, transference of the death scent would occur, on that I can agree with you!
xxx
xxx
Yes, Zodiac
Apologies :-)
Nancy
I do agree with you, this country would be far better off, if we spent it on addressing the serious social issues that lead to crime rather than interfering in another country and spending billions in the process.
What right did we have to go and remove Saddam Hussein and are his people better off without him? I think that is very debatable and probably far more have died at the hands of British and US troops than he killed. Why do we not go and remove Mugabe? Because there is no oil! Politics is a dirty word, it is based on wealth, not social conscience!
UK is a wealthy country, but look at the crime and the lack of any serious attempt to address it. Prisons bursting at the seams will not change that! Oh and by the way I feel it is a serious breach of human rights to treat non council tax payers as criminals and throw them in prison. It is Dickensian, where we used to have debtors prisons, we may have removed the word or have separate prisons, but the principle is just the same and many people genuinely cannot afford to pay!
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I am pleased that we are finally hearing something from LP about the prospects of disclosure.
I thought it might be helpful to find details of the public interest test she refers to, one of the reasons against disclosure is in the course of an ongoing criminal investigation, disclosure may prejudice the defenants's right to a fair trial as I have pointed out before. I suspect this is what LP may say, but I await any announcement with fascination and let us hope they say they are NOT going to disclose because that would mean we are going to get justice for Maddie!
What is the public interest test?
When deciding whether to disclose information under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, in respect of non-absolute exemptions, public authorities will need to take into account the public interest. This means weighing up the public interest in complying with a request versus the public interest in non-disclosure of the information. The balance will lie in favour of disclosure.
The Australian government and the Australian Administration Tribunal (which oversees the Australian FOIA) agreed the following factors as being of importance in considering the public interest (they also have the public interest test in their legislation):
Reasons to favour disclosure:
• That the documents “complete the picture” of what is already known about a matter
• That the documents disclose the reasons for decisions
• The importance of openness in the administration, and of the public’s need to be better informed of, and more able to participate in, public affairs
• The general public interest in obtaining access
PUBLIC PARTNERS©2004
Reasons against disclosure include:
• Premature release of tentative and partially considered policy matters may mislead the public and encourage ill-informed speculation
• Ongoing negotiations between the government and third parties could be prejudiced if the documents released would not fairly disclose the reasons for the decision, or involve sensitive matters considered at the highest level.
Timing is also an issue; for example in connection with a criminal investigation, disclosure of information before a trial could prevent the accused from having a fair trial. But once the trial is over, much of the information would have been disclosed in open court anyway and the public interest in making this information more widely available may outweigh the public interest in maintaining confidentiality.
What is the prejudice test?
The prejudice test refers to the prejudice or harm which could be caused by disclosure of the information. This is a wide exemption which applies to both the duty to confirm or deny whether the information exists as well as whether it should be disclosed. Section 31 is an example of a “prejudice” exemption Section. It refers to law enforcement. Information under this section would be exempt if disclosure would, or would be likely to, prejudice or harm:
• The prevention or detection of crime
• The apprehension or prosecution of offenders
• The administration of justice
• The assessment or collection of any tax or duty or of any imposition of a similar nature
• The operation of immigration controls
• The maintenance of security and good order in prisons or in other institutions where persons are lawfully detained
• The exercise by any public authority of its functions for any of the purposes specified in subsection (2) of this section
• Any civil proceedings which are brought by or on behalf of a public authority and arise out of an investigation conducted, for any of the purposes specified in subsection (2), or on behalf of the authority by virtue of Her Majesty’s prerogative or by virtue of powers conferred by or under an enactment, or
• Any inquiry held under the Fatal Accidents and Sudden Deaths Inquiries(Scotland )Act 1976 to the extent that the inquiry arises out of an investigation conducted , for any of the purposes specified in subsection(2), by or on behalf of the authority by virtue of powers conferred by or under an enactment.
Application of the prejudice test is then followed by application of the public interest test.
Note: You will need to read the Act to see subsection 2 of Section 31
BBFN,
Just wanted to say that I have never blogged on the NET before about anything until I heard about this grim tale. It was September last year that by chance I stumbled upon the Daily Express HYS forum. There have been many times when I have thought I am so sick of the ignorant Mucks and their team that I will stop reading about them and stop blogging. Well thanks to Viv providing this blog and posting her view, then Claudia's blog and the 3 A's and any others that I read via links, I have continued and treat all of the above as my newspapers on this subject. When I see the picture of Gonçalo Amaral and his wife Sofia Leal and having read Sofia's letter I realise that their lives have been changed dratically by the child that was neglected on her May 07 family holiday and I am inspired by them and I will continue to blog for M. What happened to the vow the Pink waste of space made? He would make it his life's work until he tracked down every blogger who dared to not accept that the Mucks were lily white. Is he still doing that on retainer basis? Well Mucks and Co I am going nowhere. I do believe that justice will be done. A 3 year old child cannot be neglected along with her 2 year old siblings night after night by her parents and as a result of such neglect disappears into thin air and said parents get away with, it wasn't us, we are not to blame, it is not our fault, we are responsible parents who did what any responsible parent would do. I do not accept your selfish pathetic excuses quite simply because my morals are different from yours. I do not claim to love your missing child however I have 4of my own and I know how much I love them. I would walk on hot coals to save any of my children. I can just imagine you two saying oh no I'm not burning my feet that would hurt and scar me. I would give my life for any of my children and cannot even begin to understand why any parent would leave their child/ren to have wine and a meal with their friends and do you know what I do not want to understand it. I am here for the long haul. I am here as little person who is one of many who have the same morals, the same way of thinking and when you Mucks brought us all together you created something that is much more powerful than money you created your own worst enemy you created a chance for JUSTICE for your missing child. I will never shut up because you demand it. I will never ignore an innocent little child, I will be here until I see JUSTICE for this neglected little girl. If this is ignored it has not just failed Madeleine McCann it will have failed every other child that is or has been neglected and abused. Innocent children come first not neglectful ignorant parents/adults!
I would just point out the Police are a "public authority".
x
Whoops! 'drastically', '4of' and I am sure many more mistooks.
BBFN
Zodiac,
Very eloquently put and thank you!
The announcement from LP is very encouraging in clearly confirming they do withhold information about this case and I will continue to say the reason for that is they intend to bring these two to court and simply cannot put the details of the enquiry into the public domain before they do so, because the McCanns would then be able to say they cannot get a fair trial, in breach of Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights. Of course if the LP have taken the decision they are not going to prosecute them, then there could be no legitimate reason IMO for not disclosing what they have, but frankly, I think that is just not an option. As the LP spokesman said, this is a very serious case, and they are not going to just throw all that information into the public domain for it to be speculated on, including in blogs like this ahead of court proceedings. Once the proceedings are all over then people will be able to have all the information and say just what they like. Notice that no further public information is being given in relation to the Shannon case where the two accused of very serious conduct, kidnapping are in custody awaiting trial, the public must not be allowed to prejudge that, ahead of their trial. The same applies to the McCanns.
Viv x
To quote bath theory....
"HOW CAN IT NOT BE IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST- A 3YR OLD CHILD HAS VANISHED. AND SOME EXPERT CADAVER DOGS HAVE SNIFFED DEATH."
In my opinion it is more to do with the fact that the British police may have done very little, and if anything may have greatly assisted the McCanns. That may be the reason why they are reluctant, it appears to release any info they may have. I of course may be completely wrong in my opinion but I have seen nothing of any worthwhile contribution from the British police to this investigation. Indeed to my knowledge they have never once questioned the Mccanns or their friends re the missing Madeline who I presume had rights under the law as an individual.
People question the openess of the PJ and the judicial secrecy in PT, what about the secrecy of the British police when it suits of course.
Good evning Viv,
Viv,
In a case that isn’t solved and with the evidence indicating a particular scenario but failing to produce watertight evidence for a successful conviction - why is it that the files are released into the public domain at all? Surely this is just forewarning the perpetrators of the crime what evidence the police have and what they do not have. This case is not closed but on hold until new information presents itself.
Releasing evidence imo serves no purpose to the public or Madeleine it only serves the perpetrators of this crime and allows them to shore up their alibi’s and gives them time to fabricate plausible explanations to fit the police findings. I really do not understand it – is this normal procedure in a serious crime like this to release files into the public domain so soon?
Good evning Viv,
Viv,
In a case that isn’t solved and with the evidence indicating a particular scenario but failing to produce watertight evidence for a successful conviction - why is it that the files are released into the public domain at all? Surely this is just forewarning the perpetrators of the crime what evidence the police have and what they do not have. This case is not closed but on hold until new information presents itself.
Releasing evidence imo serves no purpose to the public or Madeleine it only serves the perpetrators of this crime and allows them to shore up their alibi’s and gives them time to fabricate plausible explanations to fit the police findings. I really do not understand it – is this normal procedure in a serious crime like this to release files into the public domain so soon?
BT, they have all the interviews they did with Mr Amaral. Why they didn't publish them/aren't publishing them /won't publish them is the one million dollar question.
Mr Amaral is too smart to have accepted that deal. His wife said on live TV it would make him a VERY rich man. Richer than all the books he could sell worldwide. But he would have to give up all the rights of the book which would mean it could never see the light of day. For some, there are more important things than money.
http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=mEftwIgA5Qw
Great video!
Video
Well Claudia as I told you before I have a top top publisher contact so let me know if GA needs a publisher with a social justice heart and soul.
We Shall Overcome
Justice for Madeleine + Sean + Amelie
Great video link claudia cheers
Off to put kids to sleep will post my next diary comment later. It is to do with my latest run at my local hill that not many people can do in such a quick time !!!!!
Viv
The very fact that LP are reported to be considering disclosure convinces me that they are no longer investigating this case. As everyone knows, when Mr Gerry and Mrs Kate hightailed it out of Portugal the British police were not far behind and I believe they became uncooperative from that date.
I think that LP have been willing accessories to a cover-up. I know you feel different and I do hope you are right.
I agree with you Docmac. BUT I reckon when Brown goes these two will be touchable then and they will go down. Let's hope he goes soon.
Clarence is smart enough to know now that it is better to be silent than deviant. He realises the game is up and has broken the link and done the right thing finally.
Hi All – I’m off to a family wedding in Italy tomorrow hope for an update when I return next week. Keep up the good work.
Best Regards as always - Wizard
Let's hope so, BT.
Trying to keep track of 4 different football matches at the same time here. Going to watch the second halves in the bedroom. Don't Arsenal look a bit like wasps in their Euro away kit :-)
Wizard -
Have a lovely time in Italy - sounds very romantic!
Nx
Joe -
Great to see you back on the blog!
I thought you'd deserted us.
Your post makes a lot of sense, especially your final paragraph, even though none of us want to think that the LP's didn't do everything that was expected of them as far as the McCann's, and especially poor Madeleine, are concerned.
If they didn't, then there must indeed have been a cover up and it's still ongoing!
Nx
Viv and everyone!
Just to say that I am off to the UK (sailing from Bilbao tomorrow) for a while but once I've got a new server sorted out I'll be back on the blog.
Meantime, Justice for Madeleine and all abused and neglected children!
TTFN
Nancy x
Wizard and Nancy
Have a wonderful time both and travel safely.
Bye Nancy, hope to read you soon.
Wizard, have a lovely time in Italy.
Claudia thanks for the video link, I agree great.
BBFN
Good evening Viv and everyone
Having read though the diary, I have three very basic statements to Kate Healy/McCann.
1) Kate , you are certainly not in a position to blame an "abductor" for robbing you of a daughter/ a certain happy lifestyle. She was a mere baby... you should have taken better care of your children. All three of them. As simple as that.
Projection does not get anyone anywhere.
2)Kate, you are certainly not in a position to refer to anyone's behavior(professionally or personally ) as disgraceful. Stop blaming Amaral and the PJ .Look at yourself and the powerful connections that has been abused to get you scott-free(you'll understand the masonic significance ;))
3)Professionally and personally, I am not convinced by the content and intention of you diary.And I know, I'm not alone.
If the connection is freemasonry then they will not go to prison, simple as that. It would also explain the Leicestershire police's apparent stalling and non existent co-operation even though the parents could be possible murderers of their own child.
Hi SC
If you're still about, do you actually believe the diary was written at the time by a 39 year old qualified doctor and mother?
If yes, does she seem to have an exceedingly low EQ? Or would it be a reflection of a personality disorder?
If no, then you agree with me ;-)))
BT,
I'll never underestimate the power of connections.
Wizard said...
Good evning Viv,
Viv,
In a case that isn’t solved and with the evidence indicating a particular scenario but failing to produce watertight evidence for a successful conviction - why is it that the files are released into the public domain at all? Surely this is just forewarning the perpetrators of the crime what evidence the police have and what they do not have. This case is not closed but on hold until new information presents itself.
Releasing evidence imo serves no purpose to the public or Madeleine it only serves the perpetrators of this crime and allows them to shore up their alibi’s and gives them time to fabricate plausible explanations to fit the police findings. I really do not understand it – is this normal procedure in a serious crime like this to release files into the public domain so soon?
Hiya Wizard
I cannot think of any case of this nature where the police are investigating, have clear suspicions fo the guilt of certain people but then release the information into the public domain. I have already said on many occasions on this blog, that might be how Portugal deals with matters but it is not what happens here.
When a murder case is pending, the case files are kept confidential until such time as the police have further evidence and as we know, regularly conduct cold case reviews on pending cases.
Having said that public authorities are supposed to provide access to information wherever possible. In this case I think the Police will rely on the many exemptions there are in refusing to disclose further details of the case. As we know, Stuart Prior and others went to Portugal seeking to prevent the Portuguese from diclosing evidence about the findings of the FSS on the forensic samples and the sniffer dogs. They were unsuccessful.
Even in human rights law there are all sorts of reasons why a state may be allowed to withhold information from the public, the principle one being in order to detect or prevent crime. The McCanns have already had to back down on this point in the High Court.
Viv x
Doc, as you probably know, the Wechsler is so reliable. Not only for the score, but diagnostically infallible. Would have loved to use a little old goeie boere psigometrie!Rorschach,TAT etc.Spelterapie with the twins as well.
No. I am not convinced Kate,sorry. Have worked with hundreds of parents losing a child, something stinks.
How on earth does a boeremeisie from the Noord-Kaap get to know about freemasonry anyway? You must have been away for a long time!
I know little about this and thus avoid any discussions on it.
I know Meneer Wechsler is ultra-reliable even though I have not had the chance to meet 'him' yet, lol!!
Ja, you would have a field day there, ne?
Good evening all!
Zodiac - very well said, as always.
Docmac, for me, putting Arsenal and wasps in the same sentence is an oxymoron! My team's Arsenal (OK you can laugh now) and I have a wasp phobia!!
Viv, did I miss something? Are the McCanns showing signs of a move towards admitting an accident?
Claudia, Thanks for Sophia's letter. I think she shows her own and her husband's integrity as being way above the McCanns. Good for her. I hope they find some peace and happy times together as they, as a family, so obviously deserve it.
Docmac, I hope you are wrong about the LP too!
Off to bed shortly. I've just watched 'Atonement' which I've refused to watch for a while but now that I've been forced to (by my daughter), I'm glad I did. It's quite good :-)
xx
I am struggling with the suggestion LP/British are not co-operating. It was our Senior homicide investigator who stated he thought the McCanns had a case to answer and that Eddie and Keela should be brought over to find further evidence, which they did. It was then the FSS who analysed that evidence. Stating that the evidence is indicative rather than conclusive is simply a fact of life in such a case. There had been a major contamination of the scene by the McCanns inviting the world and his dog in, in addition to a major clean up. In short they made damn certain there would be no "conclusive" forensic evidence. No case could go to court on this alone, but it is the UK who have provided the most damning evidence against the McCanns. Apart from all the circumstantial evidence which they and their cronies have provided themselves. But still, there is no evidence of what precisely happened to Madeleine and by whom. But maybe there is, we just do not know about it, as yet. I have stated on many occasions the Police will have to investigate all of this before they can bring charges and there could not be a more complex case than this IMO. We have possible paedophiles involved, manipulation of evidence on a international scale and very major fraud. No one should underestimate just how many different authorities have been investigating and co-operating with each other on an international scale. If you read Goncalo himself, he freely states that his views and opinions on the evidence are also shared by the British officers involved. It is just that British officers are simply not allowed to say so, it would cost them their job and maybe even a prosecution!
Viv x
You're speaking a weird language! :-) I like it!
Hi Dyl
Did you see the jerseys? lol
They were lucky btw. I like the Arse too, my 3rd favourite team.
Jip, I would indeed Doc!The psychodynamics are so revealing.
Let us just say, the Noord-Kaap with its contrasts and simplicity, prepares one for the more complex issues in life ;)
Dylan, Sofia Leal showed Kate the meaning of dignity. I just happen to believe it is to late for her to take in such concept and live accordingly.
Viv, did I miss something? Are the McCanns showing signs of a move towards admitting an accident?
Hiya Dillie, When being quite stringently questioned recently Gerry stated that if Maddie had an accident how could that be their fault. In addition, Kate's diary has just been printed in Gerry's favourite newspaper, the NOW. On the very first entry for 3 May, where we were clearly led to believe there was no such entry for that date, Kate states that she left the children to go and have a shower. So yes, I would definitely say they are laying the ground for admitting there may have been an accident. This is the charitable view Goncalo has always taken and may be it is less serious thing for the McCanns to admit than murder! Sometimes if you cannot get away with something completely you can at least mitigate. The evidence in the public domain, without knowing what the LP have, is utterly damning against them, they must surely realise that continuing to insist Maddie was abducted is just make themselves a laughing stock!
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Hiya Claudia,
I agree it is too late for Kate to regain an semblance of dignity. Several months ago on this blog, I used to implore her to do the decent thing and admit what her husband is like and exactly what happened to Madeleine. She has gone way beyond the stage of getting any sympathy now or behaving like a decent human, with dignity or any demonstration of love and concern for ALL of her children. Just how are the twins going to grow up and face this now?
xx
SC
I know, I lived in 'Kimbly' for a while :-)
Viv, what is your guess as to what the 'diary' entries were for April 28 to May 2?
Hi Claudia.
Hiya Doc,
Well I do not believe Kate McCann ever kept a diary. I believe this was just another item up for sale and to exonerate the McCanns, but there is such a level of PD they do not seem to realise it hardly does that.
If there had been an entry for 2 May I would say that Kate was extremely angry with Gerry, perhaps for flirting with other women and ignoring her. She is a mighty and precious woman with a narcisstic attitude to herself and could not cope with this. Gerry on the other hand cannot cope with nagging women when he has had a good drink. It just makes him more aggressive. I think he attacked her late on 2 May and she then slept with the children to get away from him. But we have absolutely no chance of reading anything like that, written by Kate McCann!
Viv xxxxxx
Do you think they were so delusional when this was retrospectively beefed up that they allowed a tea bag to be dripped over it for ageing purposes to fake authenticity too!!!!!!!
:)
Thanks Viv. I can't imagine GA being any less than charitable and now I've read his wife's letter to K, I am more convinced that they really are thoroughly decent people.
Claudia, can't see K & G recovering any dignity they may have had either, I'm afraid. Dignity is a universal trait that can transcend any class boundary but can equally be tossed aside by greedy, selfish middle class people ;-)
Docmac, only 3rd favourite?? I know your first but surely there can't be another fave ahead of the gunners???
xx
By the way , I have deferred my latest diary extract due to tiredness but it will start something like this
Got home from work and decided to go for a run. I looked around for my sports bag and could not find it anywhere. I knew then that without my favourite co-ordinated apparel my run would be physically difficult....
Viv
Talking about dignity-that is a character trait that is severely tested when a person experiences a tragic loss.
Kate blaming Mr Amaral as acting disgracefully, certainly shows quite the opposite of a dignified ,grieving mother.
Goodnight all
BT - don't knock the old tea bag trick ;-)
Off to bed. Tired out and have some work in the morning.
Goodnight, good people. Sleep well.
xx
Viv
I concur. As you will see, I wrote 'diary'. I am just intrigued as to what the writer would have inserted for the dates April 28 to May 2nd. I would love to read those entries.
Yes, Dyl. West Ham :-(
Personal reasons for that :-)
Goodnight Southerncross. Nice to see you post again xx
Night Dyl,take care :)
West Ham? Oh dear! They had better be really good personal reasons ;-)
Really off now. Catch you all in the morning.
Nite xx
Nite Dyl and SC
BT, stop running. It gives you a flat head. And uncontrollable twitching when being asked probing questions.
Hiya SC
I agree Kate has made many remarks that show her up for being a petulant and arrogant woman with a vicious tongue and who expects to get her own way. When she does not she turns to abuse. As you say the complete antithesis of a sad, grieving mom.
Where once I might have felt sympathy as I can see what she has put up with, there is no more of that! To me, they are both as bad as each other and she has the intellect to have extricated herself and more importantly, her children, from a very bad situation. It is not the house, the car, the job title that matters to healthy happy children, if she realises that now, it is far too late.
Viv x
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