Hi All, I have just tried to search online about Oakley International who the McCanns claim are private investigators working for them. The article in the Daily Mail has been removed and they are clearly concerned making a statement on their webpage. As we know this one man band is run by Mr Halligen and he does NOT actually profess to be a private investigator. He resigned the directorship of his other company Red Defence International following a meeting with the Directors of the Find Maddie Fund, how odd is that! I think the only thing that is international about Mr "Halligen" is his involvement with worldwide fraud!
I have also noted the controversy in relation to Madeleine's character. Gerry says she was an extroverted child. But this is a child, who, as the article below confirms was dumped at every given opportunity in the creche along with her siblings, not something the rest of the TAPAS group did. The McCanns were not with the rest of the group for a meal on that fateful night either. So why would Gerry describe Madeleine as extroverted when the nursery staff say she was the complete opposite - the shyest child in the group. I am sure psychologists would provide us with the answer but again, it demonstrates what a liar he is. Nursery nurses are trained professionals in assessing children and clearly would not describe a so called extroverted child as "shy". I believe she was a neglected and unwanted child and even the twins were not treated much better, but the major difference is they are still alive, sadly still with Kate and Gerry McCann also.
Justice for Maddie x
We will not forget xxxxxx
Updated: 27 August 2008
MADELEINE FILES: Madeleine spent most days in Kids Club
CHILD CARERS working at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz noticed that the McCann children spent the maximum time available in the care of the resort’s kids club according to police files released to the media surrounding the case.The usual routine of Gerry and Kate McCann was to put the children in the nursery facility at about 9am and then pick them up between midday and 12.30pm to give the children lunch before bringing the children back at 3pm and returning at the end of the day between 5pm and 5.30pm.Other children in the tapas nine party would not spend as much time away from their parents. The other parents in the group, the files reveal, would normally leave their children with the baby sitting service only in the morning sessions.The police files also gives details about Madeleine’s personality as described by her father, Gerry and those that spent time with Madeleine while they were on holiday in the Algarve.Madeleine was described by Gerry as being an extrovert, very active and having happy relationships with other children.She would never go with a stranger and he states clearly that she was not taking any medication.In a statement made by one of the nannies working at the Ocean Club, Madeleine was described as being a calm, beautiful and happy child.However, she was portrayed as being more shy than the other children at the kids club.Meanwhile, reports in the British media have claimed that there is now less than 500,000 pounds sterling in the Find Madeleine fund.The private investigation agency Oakley International has reportedly cost the fund half a million pounds sterling, despite not yielding any concrete results.This had led to Brian Kennedy, the British double glazing tycoon who has donated large sums of money to the Find Madeleine campaign, voicing his dissatisfaction in the investigators.A statement was issued on behalf of the McCanns on Tuesday countering the claims in the press concerning the status of the private investigators via the website http://www.findmadeleine.com/. “We appointed them (Oakley International) several months ago to investigate the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. We continue to work with them to this end. The working relationship is managed by Brian Kennedy, who also confirms the relationship with Oakley International continues to be good and that it remains entirely focused on the search for Madeleine.”
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OK Claudia 201. you can go back to sleep now!
dylan
The only deleting I am aware of on 3A is of excessive quoting as the web site is rapidly getting toward its maximum capacity.
Dylan, when I went on vacation and I warned the readers/posters of my blog that it would be 'closed' while I was away, ST, Poops and their idiot cronies said that I was going behind closed doors, that I was so scared that I would disappear and that I would never come back. The only reason why I 'closed' it was because I would be away from any computer and I had had several attempts to hack into my computer. I just thought it was the safest thing to do. They really don't like the truth.
ICTOAN, :-)
Thanks ICTOAN. Glad that's the case and I can see how, 3As is chockablock!! (is that how you spell it?)
Claudia, had to remove a duplicate post and very nearly messed up your new page :-)
xx
Dylan, you wouldn't! :-)
Claudia,
I remember all of those smug comments too & they certainly don't like the truth. In fact I think they are truth-phobic. Must be or else why would anybody think that a dog would lie ;-)
xx
Truth-phobic, loved it! :-))))))))
I wouldn't dare!!! I am scared of you and Viv you know ;-)
xx
Good afternoon all
Viv
What a good idea having the knockthrough done whilst you and Luke are on holiday, hopefully the worst will be over when you get back.
Hope
Neff are coming tomorrow. They have told me if I don't open the freezer door everything should stay frozen, I wish I had their faith.
Dyl
I was on a thread recently on 3A's where several posts were removed because they were libellous, sorry I can't remember which one it was.
dylan
I'm not a good speller but in the case you mentioned I would have put a hyphen either side of the "a".
Dylan, sorry, I totally forgot you're terrified of us! LOL
Thanks Di and Hi!
ICTOAN - I think you're right. I stand corrected ;-)
Off to collect kiddies now. Obviously with my tail between my legs and quivering given how close I was to upsetting you, Claudia ;-)
BBL xx
Dylan, ROTFLMAO!
BBFN
Have to go to the Pharmacy to collect my medication or I will be in danger of running amok.
"Children with no manners who are running around, screaming, shouting, crying..."
Blame the parents. This kind of behaviour is mostly a manifestation of inadequate supervision and a lack of parenting skills at home.
If the child has a genuine psych problem, blame the parents again. Any parent with an ounce of respect and manners would not deliberately inflict this kind of discomfort on strangers in an intimate environment.
In either case, don't blame the kids, for goodness sake!!
Having said that, I don't see much of that kind of behaviour and I'm sure it has been exaggerated by someone who is not all that fond of kids (anymore).
Of course we go to family friendly places and there is some boisterousness, especially when there is a jumping castle, or a trampoline, or a climbing apparatus (or an unfortunate frog or bug :-) to explore. But that's what being a kid is all about, isn't it? Interacting with peers and establishing one's identity, exploration, acquiring new skills and friends, having fun and, wow, some excitement. Preferably in the close proximity of responsible and loving parents who have instilled clear boundaries which their kids learn have learned not to cross. Most of the time :-)))
Ooh, some would be such fun at a kid's birthday party wouldn't they ;-) Bet they just send a card.
"Ooh, some would be such fun at a kid's birthday party wouldn't they ;-) Bet they just send a card."
No, I don't even think they'd go that far. It'd be a case of "There you go son, here's a 5 pence piece,Happy Birthday, now run along and find your birthday friends and see who can make it the flattest on the railway tracks" ;-)
Claudia - still shaking! I need a driiiink :-)
xx
" mark55 said...
docmac said...
Di
Eddie does not lie.
But humans lie .It is your interpretation of the dogs that is the lie . It seems the spanish police who searched for Maddie don't believe there is proof she is dead . Are they part of the conspiracy ?
You have stated that ther was no cadaver in the boot of the car , only towels that had been in contact with a cadaver .Therefore you accept that the dog's reaction to the car does not prove that a cadaver was ever in the car . Therefore the dog's reaction in the appt does not prove a cadaver was ever in the appt .
But Amarel claims the dog's reaction proves Maddie died in the appt . He's wrong , as you would have to agree .
Notdoc , would you have the guts to debate , one to one with me in real time? Perhaps on this blog , or one of your choice . You hide behind the fact that you can post without being challenged . Let's see if you can answer my questions . I am confident I can answer yours ."
30 September 2008 07:03
Eddie did not go into the car. For reasons made clear my Mr Grime. No, I'm not going to have a live debate with you. There are two reasons for this.
1. You rely on very old forensic textbooks and believe nothing that has emerged since they were written.
2. I am in possession of an e-mail that proves you wrong :-)))))
PS, how did you know it was towels?
Hi Dyl
"make it the flattest on the railway tracks"
I used to do that as a kid!. Bet H&S don't allow that now, eh?
Docmac - looool!
Sparkless 55 has just made himself look even more of fool!
Have to go. Son wants laptop and who am I to argue with that?!
BFN xx
Docmac - me too! Hours of fun :-)
Bye xx
Cheers, Dyl.
Driiink :-)
Was supposed to go to a CPD thing tonight but it has been postponed.
Was supposed to leave for Boston tomorrow, but for reasons known to you and a few others I am no longer going ;-)
Oh well, maybe I'll have a small one too :-)
Doc
Has Mark given you that e-mail address yet?
We knew we had to avoid railways lines as we were aware that certain rails were electrified.
Hi ICTOAN
No
And I misspent most of my primary school years in a town/small city in the Northern Cape in SA. It was then the main passenger railway junction between CT and JHB. Steam only then and we only had about 5 trains a day passing by. We'd go down and lay the coins before school and come back after to see who had 'won'.
Doc
I've found a theme tune on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60v8U2
eviA8&feature=related
ETA
From Cape Town to De Aar in the Karoo was electrified. From there to Kimberley was steam. Thence electric to Joburg again. So we only laid the coins on the south side of the station :-))
"The URL contained a malformed video ID"
Doc
Try this shorter URL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60v
8U2eviA8
The first I gave works on Safari but not on Firefox.
ICTOAN
Still does not work. Using IE at the minute. Will try again later. Busy holding on a call to my ISP right now, so am not firing on all cylinders.
Alternatively, just post the title and artist and I'll look for it mate.
Doc
It spoils the surprise but try Mojo Webb Moppers Blues.
Mojo Webb Plays The Moppers Blues Live
Aussie 2007?
Well Oz in the Southern Hemisphere.
I have a copy of the original recording by Big Bill Broonzy.
typo
Well Oz IS in the Southern Hemisphere.
ICTOAN
LOL!!!!!!
Don't put any strange ideas in anyone's head now.
LOLOL!! Excellent.
Love that style of music, BTW. I'm a huge Chet Atkins fan!
I'm fortunate (I think) in that I like most forms of music but obviously have my favourites.
I have recently found youtube to be a marvellous tool as by following links when I watch something by a konwn (to me) artist I am led to new ones and have some of these become firm favourites.
Dylan aka xxxxx, hope after the driiiink you're shaking less. Or more, like the bottle lady! LOL
Doc, the very smart wannabe teenage dentist still doesn't know how to spell Amaral. How pathetic is that? ROTFLMAO!
mark55 said...
notdoc,
"As I suspected . You know I would make an absolute idiot of you in a live debate .
You still have failed to answer why my argument re the cadaver dogs is not sound . You are a fraud and a liar ."
30 September 2008 18:17
No you would not, Mark.
1. Someone who knows the dogs a LOT better than you disagrees :-)
2. There is no space between any letter and the subsequent punctuation mark, except when using a hyphen (on occasion). An occasional mistake is inevitable, but you show a certain lack of knowledge therein. In your case it is a rule. (Hi Rosie :-))
3. Are you absolutely sure re your first and last assertions? :-)))))))) 100%? My son wrote better English than you when he was 7.
ICTOAN
I don't do Youtube much. But see if you can find anything by Chet Atkins and Mark Knopfler playing together. The album I have is called 'Neck and Neck'. The stuff of genius.
Claudia
OK, that too ;-)
Pretendy dentist?
Doc
Quite a few by them (also one plus the Everley Brothers - remeber them?). I'll have a listen later.
Doc, I refuse to believe that any education system would let someone who writes in such a way to become a dentist. It's just not possible. So, yes. Most likely. :-)
Have the McChimps commented yet that I misspelt "remember".
supertroll said...
Hi Mark,
He is a coward. I wasn't expecting him to come and I doubt he will acknowledge your invitation.
Pre-arranged by e-mail perhaps? :-))
He will probably make some 'witty' insulting remark about you to save face and the other hate filled idiots there will lap it all up.
You're right! See Viv's blog. Mark can't even type in English. And he's a millionaire dentist? Job for Claudia.
There are at least three posters who post regularly here who have a good science background.
Oh, none of them are liars or fantasists then, eh? None of them work in Aldi? LOL!! Best yet!
and would love to debate with him all his silly claims. Yet Notdoc the 'top paediatrician' prefers to spend his days posting with dullards.
Lot more intelligence here than around your place, mate.
He is as likely to debate his scientific claims on this case with you as Viv, the other fraud, would be to debate her legal nonsense with real solicitors.
Viv will answer this in her own time.
ST
30 September 2008 18:59
Mark 55 sounds like a clone of GM. Or maybe a relation?
Laptop regained ,after son has finished .Not sure how long I will stay in charge of it though ,that remains to be seen ! Hi Mark :-))))
Claudia, shakes have subsided a bit now because I think you are in a good mood ;-)
ICTOAN: ssshhhh!
xx
Got this on my blog today. I usually don't post those posts (that's is clearly not the purpose of my blog), but I opened an exception today, for obvious reasons:
------------------------------------------------------------
claudia, I posted these two on ST for Rosie and ST to comment. ST didn't publish them so I hope you don't mind if I do it here just so people know how these hypocrites react when confronted with difficult questions.
"They are a load of illiterate trash. I just looked in on the chatbox...and I could not believe what I read. That clairesy spent 5 minutes talking to herself like this " yer...ok hun". No wonder none of us bother much with it anymore. I don't even post on the forum at the moment. I am no snob...but these people really are the pits".) ST about posters from Rosie's forum.
It may surprise some to discover that not all pros are allowed to post on Supertroll's. Some pros who have shown that they do not agree with certain aspects of this site, or indeed certain people who do not agree with Rosiepops simply have their posts rejected - I might add that I am not one of them, but received an e-mail from one poster who had her post rejected today.
The post which appears to have been rejected today dealt with the fact that anon posts, where the anon is a pro - attacking those who do not agree with her - seem to be perfectly acceptable. Tinkerbell43 and Mum21 told an anti anon that they did not have the guts to put a name to their post, yet the two who said the same to a pro anon are no longer able to post on Supertroll's. Why is this? Is it because Supertroll knows who this pro anon is?
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My reply:
Anon, this is not exactly the type of blog to do that. But I understand it may be frustrating not being able to show them for what they are. It doesn't surprise me that ST didn't publish them. Bunch of cowards and hypocrites. I've also been receiving comments and e-mails of the same kind. People who are opening their eyes... You can contact me on my blog e-mail if you wish so.
BT
I must get my eyesight checked I thought you wrote "clown" in your last post.
dylan (respectfully)
Why should I shush1
Gotta tell it as it is!
Hi, Dylan. I'm in a great mood, actually. Just spent around two hours with three little blue eyed blonde angels (can you believe we have them in Portugal too?), aged 6 and a half years old, 4 years old and 4 and a half months old, their mother and their grandmother playing and having fun.
Or hell, like some would call it! :-)
Everyone's vanished! There must be football on the Telly!
Just a little something for Marky Mark before football time. Yes, Doc has got the e-mail. Do you know how I know? Because I forwarded it to him! ;-)
Claudia, surely you don't mean that they weren't swarthy??? How can tha be?! Glad you had a lovely day. Also liked your post from your blog - excellent :-)
ICTOAN, (respectfully) because it was, as Docmac would confirm, a "typo" and not poor grammar ;-) I do it all of the time with "remember" and also with "thanks" which comes out as "thnaks"!
xx
dylan
I also have one of those perverse keyboards. See my 18.15/18.18 posts.
Dylan, no, not swarthy. Can you believe that? Can you also believe that although I'm dark haired, I am quite light skinned? So light skinned that when I come back from the beach I only look less pale? :-) Amazing! :-)
Football time.
BBL.
Alas, time to go again. Story time is waiting.
Have a good evening everyone & I'll pop back later. xx
ICTOAN
Did not disappear. It's school holidays here and there are sudden requests for lifts and so on. Just had another ;-)
Everleys yeah, remember them well.
BT, clone sounds about right.
Got to be off for a bit.
ICTOAN - "konwn": that's a classic, lol! Damn keyboards!
Claudia I think you must be telling porkies ;-) enjoy the footie and may the best team win.
Bye again! xx
Doc
Wow my second mention over there!!
Well they say it comes in 3's, first the fridge freezer packs up, a couple of hours ago the underfloor heating, and now Sky is playing up it keeps freezing, no pun intended.
Oh well it could be worse!! At least hubby can watch Man U on normal tv.
dylan
I hadn't noticed that one. Are you sure you didn't alter my post?
Or maybe not:o((
docmac said:
1. You rely on very old forensic textbooks and believe nothing that has emerged since they were written.
Mark55 said:
You won't find any mention of LCN DNA or cadaver dogs in any old forensic textbok .
EXACTLY!!! Oh, the irony :-)))
Doc
I may have missed something here is Mark55 claiming to be a Doctor??
Another question is Tripz on 3A's pro or anti? It is very hard to tell with some people on there these days.
notdoc may well have the email and I already guessed you had sent it to him . trouble is , amaral , perhaps I should stick to lardy boy , I can spell that, thinks that the dogs prove M addie died in the appt . He's wrong for the reasons I have stated .Therefore its safe to assume the email is wrong .
30 September 2008 20:02
M ark the email about the dogs and M addie originated in the UK. From the very best source imaginable. L ighten up, or go and lighten a few t eeth.
No, Di. A millionaire dentist. With a huge car and a huge ****.
Tripz is a WUM. Not a very good one.
Oh Marky Mark, you would be amazed about what one can find with a little serious research and some knowledge in several languages. I sense you think the e-mail originated from my beautiful country? Nope. And I also sense you would LOVE to read it (them, actually). When I say LOVE, I really mean hate.
Bye, Bark. And don't forget to keep working on your spelling. Anytime is a good time to start honouring your language.
Football time.
Mark, the police are obliged to investigate all 'sightings'. As you well know. Nope, the original was included with the forward. No Chinese whispers or horse whisperers there I'm afraid. Just someone who knows a hell of a lot more about cadaver dogs than you :-))
Now I see Mum21 having another go at me too. Though it pains me to say it, her attitude to childcare as expressed earlier today in her response to the child-hater is closer to mine than any of the other pros. Just don't understand why you can not extend that to the McCanns, ma'am. Oh well, back to war now.
Doc
If M ark is like my dentist and has dropped NHS patients his client list will be dropping drastically. My dentist made a huge mistake, he took a gamble but at the wrong time.
With the credit crunch, eating out is the first to go, and I am afraid dentists are not that far behind.
Mark enjoy the riches whilst you can, that is if you are a dentist!!
by vee8 Today at 6:51 am
Don't worry ladies, the innane and worthless whitterings of a nobby-nomates type keyboard zero interest me not one bit! I already knew of him from what you all said about him on here, he just confirmed to me what a pointless little waste of a good w*nk he actually is!
Thanks, Nigel. Enjoy your wink. Is Ade taking the pictures? :-)))
Enjoy it while you can because you deserve everything a little birdie tells me is coming your way!
Oh, another little fantasy, LOL!
Mark, you're ignorance is embarassing, really. As you should know, the police is forced to investigate any complaints they receive, no matter what they think happened to Madeleine and no matter how stupid the 'sightings' are (and this last one was really, really stupid. More than usual, I mean). Which is more than what her parents do, by the way. I haven't seen them going to Majorca to look for their daughter. Or to Belgium. Or to Malta. Or to... And they believe she is alive. They do, right? Well, maybe they don't and that's why they stay put.
Di, the credit crunch has not hit here at all yet, except in the property market. I'm pretty sure the private dentists over there are going to take a real beating, as will many others who overcharge for their services.
Mark will be fine :-)))
Claudai
Marky just doesn't much going on upstairs at all.
More importantly, how's your dad? :-)
Meant 'have much'.
Was watching MU score just then :-((
Doc
Perhaps Mark should remember a sports/fast car is a substitute for a diminished ??????
:o))))
My dad is fine, thank you.
You mean about Sporting-Benfica?
Yes, Di ;-)
But then I have a sports car myself, LOLOL!!
Yes, Claudia. It often takes a day or two for us older guys to feel the effects :-)
I see FC Porto is getting a whipping too.
Doc
Me too, but I am a girl :o))
He has already gotten over it.
Yeah, Porto got its ass kicked. Let's say no one here's crying about it. ;-)
Nice, Di :-)) What letter does it start with?
Caludia, I'm sure not. But BT's going to want to feed me beer again!
Doc, :-)
To get back to more serious matters.
Posted on 3A's
Aurelio Guerreiro, the owner of a bar at the marina in Vilamoura, was close to being involved. His testimony to Sol confuses the McCanns’ time version. Sometime between 0.30 and 1 a.m., Aurelio got a phonecall from an old customer: Pat Perkins, the human resources director from a public English organism. She calls him, upset: “She told me the daughter of british friends of her, who were vacationing close to Lagos, had disappeared over 3 hours ago, that they were completely alone and that nobody was helping them to search for her”.
Kate McCann had just informed her parents of the tragedy. Pat, who lives in Liverpool, confirms: “I was at Kate’s parents’ house at that moment. But I have nothing further to add”.
Guerreiro tells what he did after Pat called him: “I understood she wanted me to go meet them, but I was an hour away from their location, and I could not close the bar, I decided to call the police”. After PJ in Portimao confirmed to him they already knew about the case, Aurelio phoned Kate, at the number that Pat had given him: “An English man picked up. He thanked me, and contrary to what I expected, he didn’t ask me for anything".
Minutes after this phonecall, Gerry asks for the priest from the Luz parish to be called for him – but the Ocean Club staff members refused, given the time it was. At four in the morning, Jane was asking a member of GNR: “Have you cut off all the roads already?”. Minutes later, Gerry, given the fact that the priest didn’t appear, asked another element of GNR to show him the way to the church.
This is interesting. So,they had friends in Vilamoura!
Doc
MMM
Doc sorry
I hit the button for too long the answer is M.
Di
I always wanted to have a Morgan.
Very nice, Di. Mine's also German. Not the same make.
That is interesting too about Vilamoura. Just like Gerry asking for the way to the church as he and Kate got up to 'search' just after Jane redirects the GNR to check if the roads which had been cut off had in fact been cut off..
Oh, the world is a stage...
Oh, I thought you meant M3, LOL!
I'll bet you it's a CooperS, ICTOAN.
Doc
The laugh is, my hubby was in my car at a petrol station when a blonde, with legs up to her arm pits, shouted that statement across the forecourt, I wonder why? he has not filled my car up again ;o))
Doc
What does yours begin with?
Confused now. Does the first name or the surname begin with M?
These sound like Gerry's coded blog messages now. Hey, Gerry! Blog still going?
Starts with A. Ends with 6. Two letters before the 6.
Doc
Are you having a laugh!! Merc
Mercs are nice :-) Dad had a few.
Doc
Fab car!!
Doc
Oohhh stop!! Pleaassee
BTW, ICTOAN
I would love a Morgan too. Or an old floppy top MG for that matter!
Well he was lucky, Di. He was a Jag man before that. Then he realised hoe unreliable they were :-))
Doc
About 15 years ago I was waiting in a holding area to catch a cross Channel ferry.
A car drew up along side towing a trailer. On it was one of the vintage Morgan 3 wheelers with all the brass fittings.
A crowd soon gathered and I think all were a little sorry to have to return to their cars to drive on to the ferry.
One heart breaking experience in my Firefighting career was to attend a car fire (a 3 wheel Morgan)which had a broken fuel line which resulted in the car being totally burned out by the time we arrived.
I shall have to look up that Morgan 3 wheeler, ICTOAN. Brass fittings, sounds fantastic.
The only old 3 wheelers which spring to mind are the old and much-maligned Messerschmit and the Reliant Robin, the latter being Mr Bean's favourite mode of transport.
Doc
Don't! get my hubby going on cars it is his passion.
Believe me, I never know what I am coming home to.
The only good thing is I can drive anything,and I do.
Doc Don't forget that Del Boy had a Reliant Robin.
Off now
Goodnight all.
Night Di! Night Di's hubby :-)))
ICTOAN yes, of course!
Off time for me too now.
Goodnight all.
Night Doc :o))
Night ICTOAN.. Ooops no.. I have never driven a Reliant Robin :o((
Doc
Quite a lot of Morgan 3 wheelers on youtube but can't find one with brass fittings.
Perhaps the one I saw had been customised.
Good night to those who are retiring.
Just to wish you all a good night too. :-)
Boa noite.
Mum21 said...
If you are refering to the McCann's leaving their children alone....then I do extend that to them, although it pains me to have to admit it.
What I don't agree with you on is what happened to Madeleine after she was left alone....and the way you state fiction as fact.
ps: I will let you check my spelling for errors...seeing as you get so much pleasure out of it.
30 September 2008 22:19
Sorry, Mum. Once I got past 'refering' and 'McCann's' in your first seven words I couldn't go much further really. Perhaps you are a great poet. Perhaps Rosie is an accomplished and much loved editor of some local church magazine. Perhaps Alroy has had her work published. How would I know for sure.
The multiple-dot puctuation system really gets to me though.
I do not state fiction as fact... FACT. Believe it...or not.
You asked for an answer. There it is.
Right, dogs are in bed. zzzz
Good Night last people reading
It's Pumpkin Time again.
Wishing you all a nice afternoon. Work's waiting!
Hi Claudia
I see that the Child hating anonymoose. (ST - I know the real spelling)is now boasting about how it likes to dine at expensive restaurants.
Is that Burger King rather than MacDonalds?
I don't know how true this is.
Re: Is the case being ACTIVELY investigated?
by makepeace on Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:22 pm
Leics Police still have their major incident room up and running...
Hiya ICTOAN
I do not know about a major incident room still up and running but one thing I am sure about, given the investigation by the Portuguese Police clearly implicates Kate and Gerry McCann and comes to the conclusion there simply was no abduction, they are not going to have stopped investigating this matter. The barrister for the Chief Constable of Leics Police told Mrs Justice Hogg so and that is why she modified her order to say that no authorities in the UK had to release any information to Kate and Gerry McCann other than the 81 pieces of information originally supplied by their solicitors, which are clearly meaningless as they relate to false sightings of Madeleine!
Viv x
Just a little reminder about the one man band incorporated funnily enough in 2007 to manufacture search equipment. This is at the forefront of the McCanns search for Madeleine according to the McScams webpage. If it was not such a serious subject it would almost be laughable. I just cannot imagine how they have the gall! This is the bigshot with American force and knowhow, er apparently. The thing is PC Grime together with Eddie and Keela is actually being headhunted by the FBI!
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Est. Employees at Location:1
Contact Name:Kevin Richard Halligen
Oh, it is not incorporated and has no webpage. Yes, definitely the very best money could buy with the Find Maddie Fiddle. Far better than PJ, LP, CEOP, SOCA, Interpol all put together. Well done Mr Halligen, now can you tell us where Maddie is please? We would really like to know!
Hey guys, do you think that Gerry is Mr Halligen and that is why he needed all his little trips to Washington, to set up his find maddie company?
Nothing would surprise me, remember he talked about a bright light at the end of a tunnel, yes a Halogen one. He does seem to have a very sick sense of humour, lost on me I am afraid!
Viv
Seeing how many times the USAF bomb their own and allied troops I wouldn't trust any of the following:
Search, Detection, Navigation, Guidance, Aeronautical, and Nautical Systems and Instruments:
"Search, Detection, Navigation, Guidance, Aeronautical, and Nautical Systems and Instruments"
Good evening all, and a Happy New Year from rat! May you all have a sweet year.
The 3A's have had to delete some quotes from posts to make more room on the server. That is because the forum is so popular!
Hi Rat
Glad to see that you are still a Mod there.
I see that one of the other Mods either picked up me as ICTOAN from my introduction log in or knows me from here.
Not sure who that was ICTOAN, maybe Librarising when he was modding. I am still modding there and posting here - empty threats and childish cyber bullying do not bother me. All that does is add to the file currently sitting on the PF's desk! ;-)
Rat
It was jjp. I had already recognised Librarising.
Hi Viv
Do we think Gerry is Mr Halligen! wash your mouth out with soap you little minx ;o))
Do you know what? nothing would surprise me anymore :o((
Hi Rat
Can I ask why, so many mods have left 3A's?
Must add, glad you have not :o))
Di, it's not really up to me to say I'm afraid, but I can assure you that it was not for any sinister reasons. Nobody got threatened, arrested or sued, regardless of what ST and Co might try and tell you! The 3As and Viv's are not going anywhere, we are all around for the long haul.
This is interesting on Joanna Morais.
01/10/08
Revisiting the “Maddie case”
Was it the Portuguese and English governments that decided to sabotage the investigation and to get the parents “off the hook”?
by Domingos Amaral*
Now that the Maddie case has been archived by the Public Ministry due to a lack of evidence; now that the process has been opened for public consultation; and now that the PJ inspector who coordinated the investigation, Gonçalo Amaral, has already published a book about the issue, it has become possible to list my conclusions about the case. Here they are:
1 – Contrary to what was suggested by the British press, which presented him as a negligent policeman who spent his life in long lunches, washed down with plenty of wine, and with little investigative capacity, the impression that I got from Gonçalo Amaral, both from the tv interviews and from reading the book, is that he coordinated a competent investigation, that followed the rules, that was neither biased nor tendentious, and that he did everything to crack the case.
2 – All the evidence that was collected by the PJ pointed, right from the first days onward, to the little girl’s death inside the apartment and the subsequent concealment of the cadaver, probably by her parents.
3 – The indicia that was collected, both from witnesses, and later from the DNA tests, pointed into that same direction.
4 – The behaviour of the little girl’s parents’ friends is very strange. There are contradictory depositions that seem to have been “built” to lead the PJ into the direction of the abduction theory. On the other hand, the fact that all of the friends abandoned Portugal in a hurry is extremely disturbing.
5 – The manner in which the little girl’s parents behave, speaking to Sky News on the same day and transforming the case into a media event, obviously forcing the abduction theory, is extremely surprising. It does not seem normal to me that a father and a mother, when confronted with the disappearance of a daughter, establish as their first and only priority to transform the case into a worldwide media event.
6 – Since the first hour, the English press accepted the abduction theory, which was communicated to them by the parents, without judgment. Like a brainless flock, they fell on Praia da Luz exercising enormous pressure on the PJ, suggesting that Portugal is a third world country, and complicating the investigation. We remember that it was an English journalist that “invented” the suspicions about Robert Murat, thus forcing the PJ to investigate him and to waste time with a situation that was lateral, but which suited the parents’ purpose.
7 – The fact that the little girl’s father is a personal friend to Prime Minister Gordon Brown led to the English government making available to the parents, media specialists who built and forced the abduction theory. It was a highly professional operation that used sophisticated marketing techniques, in the press and on the internet, with meetings with international personalities, which culminated with the visit to the Pope in the Vatican.
8 – This remarkable public campaign was accompanied by a political pressure behind the scenes, with the English government exerting pressure on the Portuguese government, in the direction of the abduction theory.
9 – For many months, it was evident that the PJ had lost the public opinion battle and that it was not prepared to handle a media and political pressure of such proportion. In terms of public communication, the case was very badly managed by the PJ and by the Public Ministry.
10 – Despite these tremendous political and media pressures, the investigation proceeded on the terrain and was approaching important conclusions, which clearly pointed to the parents’ guilt, at least of the crime of cadaver concealment.
All of these conclusions lead me to formulate two questions: Why were the directory of the PJ and the Public Ministry incapable of having the courage to accuse the parents, like the investigation suggested? Was it the Portuguese and the English governments that decided to sabotage the investigation and to let the parents “off the hook”?
Some day the truth will emerge, but for me, and even without bulletproof evidence, a case like this should never have been archived and those parents should be tried in court.
source: Diário Económico, 01.10.2008
*Portuguese journalist and author
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frencheuropean Post subject: Re: Joana-morais. blogspot 1/10 : 2 interesting articlesPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:19 pm
On Parole
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October 01, 2008
Alipio Ribeiro is Back!!
Nomination: New Functions in the Public Ministry
Former Director of the Judiciary Police was nominated Public Ministry Inspector
The former national director of the Judiciary Police (PJ) was nominated inspector of the Public Ministry (MP) by the Superior Council. There for, and in the scope of his new functions, the magistrate, who has abandoned the position in May, almost an year before the term of office ended, is now going to inspect the criminal police forces.
The decision was taken in 17 of September and made public last week in Diário da República. According to the regulation of the MP inspections, “it belongs to the inspection of the Public Ministry to proceed to inspections, inquiries and diligences, as well as initiate disciplinary processes to the services and magistrates of the Public Ministry and to the organizations of the criminal police.”
When, in February, Alípio Ribeiro admitted that there was "haste" in constituting as arguidos the parents of Madeleine McCann for the disappearance of their daughter, back in May 2007, in Praia da Luz, an adverse feeling grew amidst the PJ. Due to the mediatic exposure of the case, the statements of the, at the time, top head of the PJ, officer responsible for the investigation at the time, were not welcomed.
And when, in 5th of May, in an interview given to the Diário Económico, he defended the concentration of all the police forces under one ministry rule, the Associação Sindical dos Funcionários de Investigação Criminal (ASFIC) [the Criminal Investigation Officers' Union] demanded his resignation. Two days later Alípio Ribeiro requested his resignation as National director of the PJ, accepted by the Justice Minister [Alberto Costa], alleging he was tired of the media exposure of his Job.
Source: Diário de Noticias
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Di
There was a thread started by Moderator jjp entitled Missing Moderators.
http://www.the3arguidos.net/
forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=24076
Rat
I am sooooo glad to hear that.
Di
Should have added first and last posting probably the most important.
ICTOAN
Thanks for that, so many new threads are started on 3A's it is so easy to miss one that is important.
Off to watch some tv bbl.
ICTOAN
Totally agree.
See you later.
'Councillor sexually assaulted baby boy'
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/
3717820._Councillor_sexually_
assaulted_baby_boy_/
Kuyt!!!!!!
Evening all, I'm a little distracted this evening :-))
Will check the links later, ICTOAN.
Doc
On a more personal note.
When you compose yourself there is also this link to a letter in our local paper.
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/
letters/argusletters/3714204.Thanks
_to_real_life_heroes/
Thanks_to_real_life_heroes
Fantastic! Mine hasn't stopped talking about it since. And he can almost recite the script of 'Firehouse Dog' now :-))
Back to footer.
Keane!!!!!!!
1st of many for the Reds!
mark55 said...
So notdoc refused to have an open debate with me last night for the reasons he gave.
However he then seemed to change his mind and did have a debate with me from the safety of vile's blog.
Sorry for the misinterpretation. I was not debating, just pointing out that the entire back row of your chess set is missing.
Like a boxer hurling insults from his corner but afraid to go into the ring.
Boxers hurling insults from their corner are already in the ring.
So we have another word to describe notdoc...... coward .
See above.
As regards his email , I bet he was pretty angry that clawdia told us all it came from her.
Nope :-)) It was the original source that excited me.
Remember that the CPS thought they had DNA evidence that placed Sean Houey at the scene of the Omagh bombing . They didn't , their expert was wrong . It is only when forensic evidence is presented in court that it's providence can be validated . Your email is not proof .
The judge that rejected the LCN DNA evidence was wrong. You know this because you also know that the use of such evidence has been revalidated. Sean HOEY was lucky. So far.
By the way , what happened to the tapas one who returned to Portugal to give evidence agaainst the McCanns? Another figment of your imagination .
Fishing? ;-))
01 October 2008 18:52
I am watching the Pride of Britain Awards, the tears have been flowing. There are so many brave people around and I praise them all.
Please don't think I am being awful but I do hope K & G plus their family are watching and perhaps they do have a conscience, and will do the right thing.
Di
One of the recipients lives a few miles from me. Our local newspaper first ran his story which was picked up by the Mirror.
Good evening all
ROTB, I hope you read my post and respond if possible. I have the utmost respect for Librarising-why is he/she no longer a Mod on A's?
Doc, certain dentists here in the UK
have more time to post on blogs than take care of their patients I suppose. NHS and all that you know ;)
Hello, all. It has beem a loooong day.
Doc, I see Marky Mark still doesn't have anyone to play with. And I still see he completely missed the point about the e-mail. It's better that way, Doc. ;-)
Di, you're hoping the McCanns gain a conscience and will do the right thing? I think you have better chances of winning the lottery.
Another young victim or is it 2.
'Girl of six raped by boy aged 13'
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/
3717599._Girl_of_six_raped_by_boy_
aged_13_/
Hi Claudia
Sadly you are right.
I was having a sad mad moment!
Southerncross, there were some differences of opinion and they couldn't be resolved. Some mods decided to resign their modship. That's it - nothing more sinister than that. Nobody has been Pinkie'd or Carter Rucked! I am still on good terms with Libra and hope he continues to post.
Thank you,ROTB I appreciate your reply! take care
"Nobody has been Pinkie'd or Carter Rucked!"
ROTFLMAO! Loved it, Rat! :-)
Di, sometimes all of us have those moments when we still believe they are normal people.
Rat
Glad your Ratty avatar is back.
I am getting prepared, the thermals are on as we speak!!
Evening all!
Do I see that my old sparring partner Mark55 is back?! Good old Britvic! I was getting worried about keeping his sense of humour up to scratch...
Forget Car 55, Mark55 where are you???
X LGC
Claudia
Meaning,I am going nowhere :o))
Di, :-)
Good evening LGC, l'shanah tovah to you!
Off now goodnight all.
Hi all, and Southerncross, thank you for your kind comments. Ratty is correct and ST is not (so what's new) - the 3As missing mods mystery is nothing to do with anyone being locked up in CM's dungeons for not believing the totally incredible, etc.
It was essentially personal. some of us took deep exception to the way one mod was treated and we resigned in sympathy. It was just a disagreement within the mod community. Ratty was not involved.
Should have stayed on here shouldn't I?
Libs
Good evening Libra! Nice to know you are still speaking to me! ;-)
Rat,
Happy New Year to you, too! I used to go to shul in the old days, possibly because the boys looked very handsome in their new suits... That was a long time ago, though.
:)
Ratty, you did well to keep out of the way. Still friends!
xx Libs
Librarising, thank you I appreciate your feedback.No, I did not suspect anything sinister, just wondered
It is never too late for a nice slice of lekach though! ;-)
Libs,
So the disagreement wasn't about how best to inject sense of humour cells into Mark55 then???
Ratty,
Oh no, that's definitely not against my religion!
LGC, no, I think we would all agree on the best site for such an injection...
Libs,
You mean where he talks out of???
:)
Evening all and a special welcome back to LGC and Libra, lovely to "see" you again!
I suppose I am lucky this site remains a relatively small community and we do not fall out! Claudia and I do sometimes have a little scrap over Goncalo, but apart from that it is fine and we know his wife commands much of his time:-))
As for Docmac, well he does his own thing no matter what I say and when he is not around we all miss him:-))
Viv x
Now back to more serious business matters, the best site for an injection for Barky Marky, why in the gums of course, it hurts like hell and he wants to make out he is a dentist, so I think that would be a retributive act for all his "patients" so to speak.
I am sure he would feel able to agree with us on this point being the decent chap that he is and so adult in his outlook x
"Claudia and I do sometimes have a little scrap over Goncalo, but apart from that it is fine and we know his wife commands much of his time:-))"
"Now back to more serious business matters, the best site for an injection for Barky Marky, why in the gums of course, it hurts like hell and he wants to make out he is a dentist, so I think that would be a retributive act for all his "patients" so to speak."
ROTFLMAO!!!!
Clarence Mitchell said of the news: 'Kate and Gerry McCann, the fund and its backers have always sought to employ or use the very best people and resources in the search for Madeleine
Well yes of course, Mr Halligen, Di, it is not beyond my imagination to think that this is Gerry's bright light at the end of the tunnel, you know when they were being investigated. Once they get into the daylight it is all books (murder specials), chats with Oprah and one million a go and film deals, mega dosh. Did someone go and spoil it all for him? I can see he had that vision when he stood outside the Whitehouse, but then he had a look of pure rage several months later. Difficult for controlling egotists when things do not go according to plan!
Well, Clarence found the get out clause, how wise of him!
xx
Claudia Hun, I do not mind admitting I don't bother to tell any lies to Goncalo and he does not tell me any either. He admits you are his younger model:-))
Hello Mark
I see you have ST wrapped around your little finger. Let's just go back a bit.
LITTLE GREY CELL
24.12.07, 11:39pm
Ive appeared on live tv several times and delivered some brilliant one liners . I just dont see any sign of a sharp brain in any of your posts .
• Posted by: mark55
LOL!!! Kate thought Gerry put on a wonderful performance too. You sure those 'liners' weren't going up your nose?
Hi Libs, great to see you. Happy holidays to LGC and Rat.
Viv, I'm really tired today, but you do make me PMSL! :-))))
Hey, Doc! :-)
And who remembers this?
LGC
10.01.08, 7:22pm
How many jews does it take to start a bonfire ?
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LGC
10.01.08, 7:34pm
How many jews does it take to start a bonfire
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Or this?
ALSABELLA
12.02.08, 10:15pm
One of my sons is a medical student at Liecester Medical School . Everyone he has come into contact with , supports the McCanns . Next month he starts a clinical attachment in Cardiac and Respiratory medicine . He may well come accross Gerry . At least I will have some first hand information of how the other doctors see the situation .
• Posted by: mark55
Well, I bet all the pros believe ya :-)))
Hiya Doc, Well I can clearly recall all his petty little one liners on the Daily Express posted from outer space on his laptop and he whizzed around trying to type on it. To call them brilliant just would not be fair to other posters.
Claudia
Happy to oblige, Hun xxxxxxx
Oh my, DE times. It seems such a long time ago. I almost forgot that Bark was that stupid. Now I remember why I used to call him the ignorant xenophobe. That was why!
Markman GeeWhizzing around Viv? :-)))))
and I clearly remember that one Doc!
Barky Marky has cute little girls bouncing on his knee as he tries to type on his computer and then he tells us he has grown up sons. Basic spelling? I have not come across anyone who has progressed so far as to become a qualified dentist with grammar and spelling quite like Bark's, but eighteen year olds who did not bother at school, another matter. Pretentious little webpage designers? Nose out of joint when they axed it, never mind Bark, the real reason was to axe most of "Gerry's really really rather crass and incriminating little blog" so do not take it too personally. Interesting the way you set it up in 2006 though, you must be into dreams and visions:-)) Well you have to be if you think Madeleine got spirited away from that apartment by some predator who has no DNA and does not even leave a glove print!
Bet you it's not only Jews he doesn't like, Claudia.
Hiya Doc, if my drug training and even better training from the offenders serves me well, "whizz" is another word for "speed" or aphetamine, what would he be like without it, I wonder?
Doc, guess not...
Viv, ;-))
Quite true Doc, thugs don't just have one prejudice, I think you will find he does not like pets (especially clever dogs with highly sensitive noses), old people, fat people, disabled people, anyone who has different coloured skin to him, anyone with a funny accent that he cannot be bothered to try and understand, anyone that has a superior intellect to him, in short anyone at all that is different to him or thinks Kate and Gerry killed Madeleine and disposed of her body. He does have a few hangups!
He does have a few hangups!
Yep!
I have to love you and leave you. Really tired.
Boa noite e beijinhos, viv e Doc.
Boa noite to all.
Hiya DOC e Claudia
Why do you think Gerry was making so much of Madeleine being an extroverted child, when according to the nursery nurses (who should know!) she was the shyest child in the group?
I think it was Di suggested he may have just mixed up her being hyperactive for extroverted but surely a doctor would know the difference. In any case, IMO many parents like to apply this label to their children when the reality is they just do not handle them well or even feed them properly!
I think it was a big mistake for Kate to do that early interview I think with Womans Own telling us what a nuisance Maddie was but then saying due to this she had such a close bond with her. About as bizarre as Kate's claim that Maddie said, Mommy I have had the best day ever. It may salve her conscience but it surely does not convince anyone that she is in fact innocent of causing Maddie any harm, on the contrary, it says to me, she feels very guilty and needs to think up some salves for her own conscience.
Boa noite amiga.
I hereby file my intent to do same.
Boa noite e Beijinhos querida Claudia
Dorme bem
Vivxxxxxx
OK Doc, I will go dust my dolls in the china cupboard and file more of same tomorrow!
xxxxxxxxxxx
Viv
Kate did way too many interviews. Then the lawyers got really involved. Now she's in hiding. Ahem.
I think google must believe Kate reads this site, did you see the adverts they put on below, one is a job opportunity for her and another is what appears to be a proper international firm of private detectives. Never mind google I dont think she means it!
Hiya Doc,
yes word has it she even had to give up jogging, what a bitch eh!
Even pseudo Catholic joggers read blogs and forums, Viv. She knows what the public thinks. Good.
Hiya Doc, I have always wanted her to know x
One post on the pink site yesterday. In toto. It's like the flathead's blog now. Or the contents of his Speedo. Nothing there.
supertroll said...
Anons 02.13, 04.45
Thanks for your comments. We should all celebrate. I also have it on good authority that those letters have been sent, but at the moment I can't comment any further.
How is making the blogs members only, going to help their case if they are still making up terrible things to write?
They need to retract their statements, apologise and admit they were lying all along. Unfortunately, I cannot imagine people like Vile going down without a fight.
ST
30 July 2008 12:15
Ho hum. Time to sleep. Just a reminder to you and your imaginary friends, ST. It's been two whole months now. Is the Christmas post really that slow?
PS, I will retract absolutely nothing that I have said. Nor will I apologise. The McCanns are scum.
mark55 said...
Legal question for viv ....
Would the cadaver dog evidence be accepted in a uk court as evidence of Maddie's death ?
30 September 2008 19:38
Firstly Mark, with respect I think that is a badly phrased question. All relevant evidence is admissible in a criminal trial in England and Wales, subject to the Judge's discretion either at common law (Sang) or under ss 76 and 78 of PACE to exclude it. Evidence can only be adduced by the prosecution if it tends to go towards proving the offence(s)charged on the indictment. If the McCanns were to be charged with offences such as murder, manslaughter, perverting the course of justice, disposal of the body etc. there would be a vast amount of evidence led in the prosecution's bid to prove the offences charged beyond reasonable doubt. The evidence of both dogs and the forensic tests would be relevant and admissible evidence but there would have to be far more than that. It would not be the prosecution's task to merely prove that Madeleine died in the apartment, they would have to establish far more than that, which is why the McCanns have not, as yet, been charged with any offences. As I have pointed out before, when they are charged the prosecution will have to bring the whole case against them, charges cannot be laid on a piecemeal basis, this would breach their human rights.
I do not suppose you understand much of what I have said but I have tried to keep it as simple as possible for you.
Viv x
Hiya Doc,
Well of course we are not doing anything wrong at all by stating that in our opinion the views of both Portuguese and British Police officers that the McCanns are responsible for the death of Madeleine and disposal of her body are correct. Contrary to what some very uneducated folk like ST seem to believe, we cannot be forced to accept the rubbish that spouts from the mouths of Kate and Gerry McCann, or their ex paid lacky either!
We support truth and justice for all little children including Madeleine and there is certainly no law against that!
xxxxxxxx
Viv
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