27 Sep 2008

MADELEINE : EXTROVERT OR SHY?

I think this must be Mr Smith's e-fit of Madeleine's abductor oh I mean predator (stick to really emotive language, it all helps) and it just reminds me of someone..Just like that e-fit Mr Flack gave to the PJ, strange that!


Hi All, I have just tried to search online about Oakley International who the McCanns claim are private investigators working for them. The article in the Daily Mail has been removed and they are clearly concerned making a statement on their webpage. As we know this one man band is run by Mr Halligen and he does NOT actually profess to be a private investigator. He resigned the directorship of his other company Red Defence International following a meeting with the Directors of the Find Maddie Fund, how odd is that! I think the only thing that is international about Mr "Halligen" is his involvement with worldwide fraud!




I have also noted the controversy in relation to Madeleine's character. Gerry says she was an extroverted child. But this is a child, who, as the article below confirms was dumped at every given opportunity in the creche along with her siblings, not something the rest of the TAPAS group did. The McCanns were not with the rest of the group for a meal on that fateful night either. So why would Gerry describe Madeleine as extroverted when the nursery staff say she was the complete opposite - the shyest child in the group. I am sure psychologists would provide us with the answer but again, it demonstrates what a liar he is. Nursery nurses are trained professionals in assessing children and clearly would not describe a so called extroverted child as "shy". I believe she was a neglected and unwanted child and even the twins were not treated much better, but the major difference is they are still alive, sadly still with Kate and Gerry McCann also.




Justice for Maddie x


We will not forget xxxxxx





Updated: 27 August 2008

MADELEINE FILES: Madeleine spent most days in Kids Club
CHILD CARERS working at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz noticed that the McCann children spent the maximum time available in the care of the resort’s kids club according to police files released to the media surrounding the case.The usual routine of Gerry and Kate McCann was to put the children in the nursery facility at about 9am and then pick them up between midday and 12.30pm to give the children lunch before bringing the children back at 3pm and returning at the end of the day between 5pm and 5.30pm.Other children in the tapas nine party would not spend as much time away from their parents. The other parents in the group, the files reveal, would normally leave their children with the baby sitting service only in the morning sessions.The police files also gives details about Madeleine’s personality as described by her father, Gerry and those that spent time with Madeleine while they were on holiday in the Algarve.Madeleine was described by Gerry as being an extrovert, very active and having happy relationships with other children.She would never go with a stranger and he states clearly that she was not taking any medication.In a statement made by one of the nannies working at the Ocean Club, Madeleine was described as being a calm, beautiful and happy child.However, she was portrayed as being more shy than the other children at the kids club.Meanwhile, reports in the British media have claimed that there is now less than 500,000 pounds sterling in the Find Madeleine fund.The private investigation agency Oakley International has reportedly cost the fund half a million pounds sterling, despite not yielding any concrete results.This had led to Brian Kennedy, the British double glazing tycoon who has donated large sums of money to the Find Madeleine campaign, voicing his dissatisfaction in the investigators.A statement was issued on behalf of the McCanns on Tuesday countering the claims in the press concerning the status of the private investigators via the website http://www.findmadeleine.com/. “We appointed them (Oakley International) several months ago to investigate the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. We continue to work with them to this end. The working relationship is managed by Brian Kennedy, who also confirms the relationship with Oakley International continues to be good and that it remains entirely focused on the search for Madeleine.”

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viv said...

I did not harm her, I only killed her! Well within the bounds of responsible parenting, according to Gerry McCann and his sycophants, paid for with the "Find Maddie Fiddle".

Investigation
The investigation by the Portuguese Judiciary Police (Polícia Judiciária - PJ) ended with the conviction for murder of Leonor and João Cipriano, Joana's mother and uncle.[3] The prosecution claimed that Joana was killed because she saw her mother and João Cipriano, her mother's brother, having incestuous sex,[4] in accordance with the testimony of the stepfather of Leandro Silva, the common-law husband of Leonor Cipriano.[5] Leonor Cipriano confessed to killing her daughter. Her uncle confessed to having beaten her up after which she stood «quiet on the floor». He said he cut his niece's body in small pieces, put her in a fridge box, then put her inside an old car that was taken to Spain to be crushed and burned. When he was asked if he had sexually abused his niece he said in the presence of his lawyer «I did not harm her, I only killed her».[6]

viv said...

Taken to Spain to be crushed and burned, and these are the people that friends of the McCanns want to be released from custody!

Heaven help all little children whilst there are people like this around, it would seem they do not even have the right to life, let alone love and comfort!

docmac said...
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docmac said...

Morning, Viv. Just up for a short time (I hope). Not used to sleeping alone :-(

Yes, how very interesting. Remember how Team McCann were so eager to draw parallels between Madeleine and Marie-Luz and Shannon?

When these cases were shown to conform to the usual 'it's almost always a family member or someone else close to the child' scenario, they shut up pretty quickly, didn't they? Same with Casa Pia when the terrible truth started to emerge in Jersey.

But the case of Joana has been the focus of most of their attention. 'The mother is innocent, mistrial, coercion, forced confession (they offered Kate two years - a lie), PJ incompetence, torture (they still don't get the difference between raccoon eyes and the bruises of a physical beating), let her out' they shout. Almost as if they were actually there.

Or have they picked on this case intentionally?

What I see is incestuous sex (swinging, paedophilia), murder, temporary storage, car (not the body itself), final disposal. A case study in fact, just refined a wee bit...

And do you know what has really struck me about this campaign? They don't attempt to argue the possible innocence of the uncle. The focus is always on the mother. Wonder why?

BTW, I don't believe that any cash, other than a relatively small service fee, has ever been paid to any of the PIs that have been claimed to be searching for Madeleine. IMO 85%+ has been spirited into an account or accounts that, if traced, would lead investigators straight to Rothley.


JMHO K&G :-)) Where's Waldo you wankers? Sorry, I mean Clarrie.

docmac said...

Oh my! LOL!!

The names of the kids and 'wife' have NOT been removed from the pink site.

'Please enter your username and password to log in'.

Hahaha!! Are you dumb broads sure your site can't be hacked? :-))) I'll bet I can spin the left wheel of your respective wheelchairs right from here.

I have the screenshots too. Won't post them without permission of course. And if I did, I'd be sure to change the names mentioned to XXXXX, XXXXXX, XXXXX, XXXXXX XXXX etc. Can't cancel the emails I sent though.

Goodness me, I'll sleep well now. With a huge smile on the dial.

Still think Deanna Troy is the funniest name I've ever heard. How in the world did your 'wife' ever agree to that one, Nigel?

viv said...

They don't attempt to argue the possible innocence of the uncle. The focus is always on the mother. Wonder why?


What a great point Doc, and I do take your point, since release of the file it is hard to imagine how it could have been Gerry, but there again, he is a sly one!

Given what this man confessed to beating her, cutting her up etc. why do they not bother with him? Also how can they say the mother be innocent in those circumstances, a mother that did not even bother to report her missing! It is often a question of what they fail to mention, thanks!

They do seem to have gone a lot quieter since the revelations about Mari Luz and Shannon, as you say, it is almost invariably someone very, very close!
Thank goodness Shannon is still alive and now safe!

Viv xxxxx

viv said...

Let us not forget little Kyra Ishaq either, killed by her mother also due to the most criminal and wicked neglect, if it had not been for the wonderful police bursting in, all of those children would have died. This is why decent people look up to and respect the police. I notice they are now targeting PC Grime, how sick and downright anti-social. I hope they never need the police to help them, they may think twice!

viv said...

Oh and by the way Doc, congratulations on having your own thread on Silly Trolls Blog, you are certainly hitting the spot:-)))

viv said...

Interesting anon post to my blog in January, we do not seem to have heard any more as to whether Madeleine did have some form of autism. We do know that Kate was telling the world what a nuisance she was, "she cried for 18 hours a day, she shrieked for my attention when I was breasfeeding the twins". Such self serving and defensive statements are not exactly normal. We did not hear about Kate's medical records either, clearly it can be very dangerous to suffer from depression and not take medication for it as the case below demonstrates, there are hundreds of other such "moms". Maybe we should be screening moms with young children on a regular basis to see whether they need some anti depressants! Doctors and nurses can make the worst patients..


Anonymous said...
On January 11th, 2008, a woman accused of killing her autistic daughter testified Friday that she attempted to suffocate the 3-year-old with a pillow three days before she succeeded with a plastic garbage bag. Karen McCarron, 39, a former pathologist testified Friday that she stopped taking her medication for depression in the months leading up to her daughter's death.

Stongwood, a private investigation company in Holland has revealed that in their private investigations they found that Madeleine McCann was an autistic child.

One doesn't normally go through such lengths to cover up an accidental death as if it had been a deliberate action. If I am not mistaken I read somewhere that the other friends with children at the Tapas bar either had bedroom monitors with locked doors or babysitters. But one should question if this was an exception for them this night. As well it should be known how consistent the McCann's were with leaving their children alone each night or if they had babysitters on other nights at the resort.

Tuesday, 22 January 2008 18:13:00 o'clock GMT

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Good Morning All

I have handed back my great-nephew to the charge of his parents after a very busy evening.

There seemed to be a procession of men coming in through the unlocked french windows and exiting through a bedroom window. (I don't know how they didn't hurt themselves as itis a 14 foot drop to the front garden).

They seemed strangely familiar. I give two examples: one had absolutely no facial features and another looked a bit like Kate McCann but with an untidy moustache, horrible teeth and long straggly hair. They kept muttering in some unintelligible (to me) language.

One even thought that the house needed a touch of air freshener as he kept spraying everything from an aerosol can. It had quite a pleasant smell but it did make me a little sleepy.

Oh well, once I get rid of this hangover (funny that. I didn't drink any alcohol last night] I'll shower dress and go and wait for the pub to open.

hope4truth said...

Morning ICTOAN

LOL well at least you stayed and did not sod off to the pub last night for some me time xxx

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Hi Hope

The fog has all but lifted here and another pleasant day looks in prospect. How are things in the Mid-West?

viv said...

Gosh ICTOAN#

You must have been up early to see the fog, it is lovely hear too, now!

I am glad you did not think right I need some me time last night, and sod off to the pub as Hope puts it, good boy!!

Mind you if the pub is very near to your backgarden you would not be unreasonable, according to Kate and Gerry anyway!

viv said...

before Doc or some other spellchecker tells me off "here", see I do know the correct spelling!

viv said...

Only 32 days to when I sod off on holiday to float,not swim on the Red Sea,not in it!

ICantThinkOfAName said...

"to float,not swim on the Red Sea,not in it"

I take it then Viv that you are not going to take advantage of the many diving centres there?

hope4truth said...

Lets face it England is not a nation of child lovers. England does not give a damn about children. I would say if their parents are "Someone" but who the hell Gerry and Kate are other than "Dr's" I am still clueless on that one.

Take the pink blog they want Joana's Mother out of jail! They only want this because they think GA beat the bitch up and as a decent country Portugal have done what any Police Force should do if a complaint is made and followed it up.

Still does not explain why Leanor poor poor Leanor the real victim in her childs horrific Murder did not bother to report her missing.

On the same site where people post because they want Madeleine to be brought home away from the vile peadophiles that took her they are bleating about another pathetic excuse of a Mother who allowed and was more than likely fully involved of the Murder of her beautiful daughter?

No she should not have been beaten up and it should be investigated and if a member of the PJ laid a hand on her then they should face what ever is comming to them. Mainly because her Brother admited to what they had done and if they have given this evil bitch a free ride out of prison because of their reactions that is not right.

I think I read somewhere about her injuring herself which would not surprise me at all.

So Joana is dead and the Pink Blog worship her Mother as the Victim!!!!!!! Sick in the head the lot of you.

As for another Mother who has smiled laughed jogged coordinated her jewelery make up and clothes traveled the world to meet the pope bring in Amber Alert (which personaly I think would be overkill and we would zone out)but did not bother to actually look for her daughter or even on the way back to the Tapas (after leaving the twins home alone again with a nutter on the loose)call out Madeleines name in the one vain hope that she would be near by and would come running out of the shadows.

Nothing from the first second that Kate say's Madeleine was taken from her bed she did nothing. Gerry did nothing he called home any normal Father would have been out shouting for his child any normal Mother would have done the same thing (I stop at this point because someone would have to stay with the twins as I would imagine you would not want your remaining children out of your sight) but then realise that this Mother just left them to their fate when she went back to the Tapas.

Poor Leonor and Poor Kate the real victims in their childs death the children dont matter anymore they are mearly there as an example of how the parents were let down by the PJ.

Call me evil call me whatever you want but my prayers and thoughts are with two little girls let down by the person who is supposed to love you more than life itself.

Kate McCann refused to answer if Madeleine was going to be adopted by one of her family. I know she refused to all the other questions bar one (and that answer was sick to the extreme)but anyone defending this Saint just think for a second that you really belived your daughter was in the hands of filthy peadophiles and the idiot PJ are asking you stupid questions about your daughter being addopted how could you stop yourself screaming in their face what a ridiculous question and Arguido or not how could you not come out of that police station and not tell the press that they were wasting time by asking you that question? If there was no truth in it NO would be very easy if there was then I guess it would make her look even more weired than she did already.

Please God put my children first they are worth a million of me.

hope4truth said...

ICTOAN

It is sunny and the washing is about to go out (obsesed these days with free drying LOL) never thought I would sound like my Dad and keep saying "Switch that light off" x

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Hope

My Dad used to say something similar but he always qualified the noun "light" with an adjective.

hope4truth said...

ICTOAN

At least these days I can pretend I am doing it for the enviroment and not because the bills have rocketed!!!!!!!!!

LOL x

Cláudia said...

"docmac said...
Oh my! LOL!!

The names of the kids and 'wife' have NOT been removed from the pink site.

'Please enter your username and password to log in'.

Hahaha!! Are you dumb broads sure your site can't be hacked? :-))) I'll bet I can spin the left wheel of your respective wheelchairs right from here.

I have the screenshots too. Won't post them without permission of course. And if I did, I'd be sure to change the names mentioned to XXXXX, XXXXXX, XXXXX, XXXXXX XXXX etc. Can't cancel the emails I sent though.

Goodness me, I'll sleep well now. With a huge smile on the dial.

Still think Deanna Troy is the funniest name I've ever heard. How in the world did your 'wife' ever agree to that one, Nigel?"

That name should be considered parental abuse! LOL

As for Leonor Cipriano, just another little detail. She reported her daughter missing several days after Joana 'disappeared' and only when the neighbours told her they were calling the police. The neighbours of the family have some interesting things to say about this 'family'.

hope4truth said...

Claudia

I am sure the neighbours would have plenty to say but certain people would not want to hear it unless it showed this evil woman as the Vicim...

If Doc now needs a password to view the dark side does that meen they have gone underground?

I remeber Troll getting very excited when we had to log in I wont get excited as unless hitting one of Doc's links without thinking I would not go there if you paid me (dont accept blood money in the hope household)...

xxx

Cláudia said...

Hope, have no idea. Haven't tried. :-)

As for the neighbours, some of them had very interesting things to say to journalists and in actual court.

hope4truth said...

Hi Claudia

Had to go and get my daughter from a freinds house...

No matter what the neighbours had to say about this evil vile woman and her Brother they will still hold her as Saint and her daughter to them is a silly child who got herself murdered by the poor poor mother...

And I am an evil Bitch for believing the children should have been better protected..

Well I can sleep at night I wonder if Kate can (I would imagine getting up at 4 to go on line answers that question)..

Cláudia said...

Hope, they don't see Leonor and João Cipriano as real people (who have committed a terrible, horrible crime). They see them as mere pawns and use them to suit their own sick agendas. And anything goes in order to do that. Even turning convicted child murderers into victims and use the name of a murdered little girl, Joana, to defend the indefensible. My only consolation is that where Joana is, no one can hurt her anymore. Not those who should have loved her and protected her and instead murdered her and certainly not those who wish to use her as a pawn in a sick game.

hope4truth said...

Claudia

I could not have put that better myself... Exactly x

Cláudia said...

Hope. :-)
xxxx

docmac said...

You can feel as smug as you like Notdoc, but as long as drunken posts discussing the loss of virginity of a 14 year old girl and other underage sex are still up on your site, you haven't got a leg to stand on as far as this argument is concerned.

Remove the posts and then you may have a point, hypocrite.

BTW what a mature reaction from you...Seeing your argument and those measured adult responses from you, this convinces everyone even further that you are NOT a doctor.

Now take off that white coat, it doesn't belong to you, back to mopping bum.


ST

28 September 2008 13:15

LOL! Ever seen anyone in a white coat in a NICU? Have you any idea how hot those overhead heaters are? I have not seen anyone other than medical students wearing a white coat for years now. Mind you, this is Africa, not an American TV show :-)) Your fantasies of being a doctor getting the better of you?

Hi Gerry! You wear a white coat?

Cláudia said...

Doc, I can think of an outfit I think he would look good in.

docmac said...

Claudia

There have been more posts defending Leonor Cipriano. By a 'Portuguese citizen'. Strangely enough, her brother's involvement is yet again not mentioned. Perhaps the 'Portuguese citizen' does not have the 'ã' on the keyboard.

Cláudia said...

Doc, probably not! ROTFLMAO!

docmac said...

Test. z

docmac said...

Ah, all the Blutak is out :-)

Cláudia said...

What are you testing, you floor mopper?

docmac said...

I'm testing the z on my keyboard. Remembered I plugged it up last night so I could not post the name of my dog ;-)

Cláudia said...

LOL
I'm glad you're making it as secure as possible for canine xxxx. You know there must be a gang of perverts waiting for you to name canine xxxx and attack it.
Well, thinking of it, it happened to Amaral's canine companion. And he didn't even wrote the pet's name on a blog...

docmac said...

Disgusting sadistic cruel dogophiles are everywhere my friend. Can't be too careful.

Cláudia said...

I know, my friend. Why do you think my cat has got a bodyguard?

docmac said...

Because you foolishly named him on the internet. There are plenty of British cat burglars living in and visiting Portugal. Be careful of anyone in a white coat.

bath theory said...

Hi Doc
We know Gerry knows the time is up because even though he is not a person who gives two frigs about leaving 3 children under 4 yrs of age alone in a strange room in a strange land he was smart enough at some point to pass medical exams. Alas, his deviant selfish streak has let him down and he is certianly smart enough to know the metal bars are shutting closely.

Now back to something more pleasant. This link is for you and your son

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=A9EZ9RlyOr4&feature=related

:)

Cláudia said...

I know. I'm fearful. I'm actually thinking about getting him into a cat protection program.

bath theory said...

Once Brown's corrupt system disappears down a plug hole there will be no reason to prop up these two. They are only not going down this week (like the last yr or so) because he and the other cronies around him don't want their pathetic judgements to be ridiculed.

To gain justice for Madeleine we need to get justice for Britain and have a general election in order to elect a legimate leader. Brown has not and never will be elected by the people so it is a question of time.

Anywhere between 2mths and 2yrs before he goes and thus the McCanns get 'unprotected'

bath theory said...

Claudia, have you ever worn a catsuit? I here they have some very friendly catsuit leather parties in Amsterdam.

hope4truth said...

Claudia

We have The Cat's Protection League in England I will write and get you membership LOL x

bath theory said...

Apparently living in Amsterdam can really loosen your sexual boundaries.

bath theory said...

You can see GM + KH desperately getting involved to keep their marriage fun. Alweays away from each other working long hours on wards.

bath theory said...

Hi Hope
Been busy lately but I don't seem to have missed much this week. Pathetic to see the 'she'll be home by xmas' mentality still being used to 'spot Madeleine' in Majorca. Like a stuck record from the old days hey

Cláudia said...

Sorry BT, not my kind of thing! :-)

Hope, thank you! LOL

docmac said...

supertroll said...

Notdoc said...

LOL! Ever seen anyone in a white coat in a NICU? Have you any idea how hot those overhead heaters are? I have not seen anyone other than medical students wearing a white coat for years now. Mind you, this is Africa, not an American TV show :-)) Your fantasies of being a doctor getting the better of you?

Hi Gerry! You wear a white coat?

I don't know how hot overhead heaters are in a NICU. I gather you don't wear a white coat there because even if you were allowed inside one, I doubt cleaning staff wear that kind of uniform.

Now back to mopping, lazy bum, and please return that Early Learning Centre doctor's kit you nicked from some poor child.

28 September 2008 16:39


36.6C. I know this because even moppers have stretch their backs occasionally :-))

Oh, what am I saying. Mops are not allowed in NICUs here. There are little robot things that do the job. I spend my time sweeping the parking lot. There, I've said it now :-))))

docmac said...

Thanks for the video link, BT :-)

bath theory said...

Claudia the point I make is an important one as they lived in Amsterdam and there is one massive club for swingers. Whilst that has not been confirmed I feel it is an important element in the story as it gives a motive to dump the children during the week and to keep quiet subsequent to the probable accident. The other motive re DP and P also gives a motive to keep quiet but is obviously extremely sinister.

Something powerful binds this group together

bath theory said...

That guy is so cool isn't he. I reckon he would score a penalty which nonchalant ease

Cláudia said...

BT, I know.

Doc, you got mail!

bath theory said...

Cluadita , but do you 'know' what?

Cláudia said...

I know about Amsterdam.

docmac said...

BT, yes. But would it be enough to beat Hull City? ;-)))

Claudia, will check that mail now. Got to do a little taxi trip thereafter.

ratonthebeam said...

Claudia, I know a good joke shop in Amsterdam if you are still looking for that cat suit. It was recommended to me by a couple of real party animals.

bath theory said...

Remember

No lie can live forever

:)

Cláudia said...

Rat, ;-)

Cláudia said...

BT, I certainly believe that.

hope4truth said...

BT

Hi Sorry Homework comes from everywhere on a Sunday!!!!

Yes one of the saddest claims by M3 she will be home by Christmas.

No one will see poor little Madeleine again where has all the money gone there are many children who are in real danger NOW not in the past that the money could be used to help sickening beyond belief.

x

hope4truth said...

Eunice Spry the Evil Bitch who for 19 years abused and tortured the children she was PAID to care for won her case for her sentence to be reduced.

This evil woman (and one look at the sour evil faced old hag says exactly what she is) forced sticks down childrens throats and made them eat their own vomit.

Yet Social Services let her keep going and now the courts and justice in England reduce her sentence because other sickos have not had such a harsh sentence?

The sick bitch should be thankful no one shoved a stick down her throat un real...

http://www.24dash.com/news/Communities/2008-09-26-Sadistic-foster-mothers-sentence-for-cruelty-reduced

Cláudia said...

Hope, maybe some of those who defend convicted child murderers could set up a blog or forum in support of this monster.

dylan said...

Hi folks!

Hope, that's disgusting and I agree with you wrt to shoving a stick down her throat. I won't read the article as I'm sure it's very upsetting but these people should get life. Not some half hearted, reduced sentence just because we are running out of room in our prisons. Why would she do that? I can't understand why a person would chose to foster children and then do that?? But then again, I can't understand why anybody would do that to a child under any circumstances.

Docmac, I see the trolls have had a field day with me again ;-) I also noticed you were quite pleased about Arsenal being defeated - shame on you!! Still top of the league though, eh??!!
It just goes to show that Arsenal have better mop skills than Liverpool :)

Claudia, Ryan has a Benfica shirt that was bought for him by his father. The logo on the front of the shirt looks like Domino's Pizza's (Docmac - I'm a bit confused as to the use of the apostrophe in this instance) logo and everytime he wears it I feel hungry and I'm sure I start to dribble!

Viv, I am sure that the nursery staff know what they are talking about. After all, they have lots of children to compare and a child's interaction with other children can sometimes be completely different than how they are at home. It's often in social situations such as being a part of a nursery group, that their true personality is displayed. Maybe the McCanns mistook hyperactivity with being very outgoing?

from xxxxx, xxxxx, xxxx & xxxx. Oh how bloody ridiculous! xx

docmac said...

Hi Dyl

I think you need to check the league table again :-)))

docmac said...

Jesus, Hope. That Spry woman reminds me of an image I have had in my mind for a year now. Only difference is the weight...

Cláudia said...

Hi, xxxxx! LOL
Benfica is everywhere! :-)

hope4truth said...

Claudia

Yes I expect it was the childrens fault for daring to be in the womans home. Expect blogs of support for the evil bitch any day now although she did not actually murder any of the children so wont be such an insperation to them.

Dyl

Hello it is unreal what she did and was alowed to get away with I dont expect she will get an easy time in Jail no normal person likes anyone who mistreats children.

Doc

Yes she is the face of evil isnt she I can imagine a lot of people looking like this sick old bat.

Cláudia said...

Hope, of course she won't get as much support as others because she hasn't actually killed a child. But she deserves support for the hurt she caused, I'm sure.

docmac said...

Oi, Supertroll. Look what I just found on the www :-))

This one

and this one

Comments from you and Rosie are not anticipated :-)))))

Cláudia said...

Doc, oh my, the word 'mole' comes to mind! LOL

docmac said...

Suspect it's a vole, Claudia. Much bigger and more scary.

Odds on ST replying: 4 to 1
Odds on Rosie replying: 55725000000000000000000003 to one. She doesn't read this blog ;-)

viv said...

Hiya all

know. I'm fearful. I'm actually thinking about getting him into a cat protection program.

Well Claudia, I have been even more foolish than you, I not only named my beloved parrot, I put his picture right here on this blog, so, do you know if there is a parrot protection programme as I am concerned those who defend child killers have expressed great malevolence towards him and he is my precious! Just about to go share my dinner with him:-))) Oh I know Chinadoll, my insanitary, the thing is children and pets are safe in my house!

xx

dylan said...

Nice work, Doc :-) Where did you find that?

Hope, I have heard a few things about what goes on in prisons towards such offenders and I really hope she gets the lot!

Hello Viv, you're not making Nanday eat off of the floor again are you? ;-)

xx

viv said...

The sick bitch should be thankful no one shoved a stick down her throat un real...

Hiya Hope

No one should underestimate what goes on in womens' prisons towards child abusers! She probably had to ask to be placed in solitary /medical wing for her own safety!

Cláudia said...

Viv, my cat was my avatar all the way through DE times and here too until little xxxx (Sara in Portuguese) was born. Can you imagine how dangerous that is? I bet they're after him already. :-)

Doc, can you imagine what's behind the scenes?
You know the old thing, too many snakes in a snakepit...

dylan said...

PS my cats' names are Moss and Chilli and you all know what my dog was called. Nevermind, I can't afford any cat food at the moment anyway ;-) xx

docmac said...

Dyl

A little birdie alerted me to it :-)

..."what my dog was called". What are you saying?

docmac said...

Claudai, I looked up my name in Portugese and strangely enough, it's zzzzz.

viv said...

I see that Spry was described as a "devout Jehovah's witness".

It is strange how sickening child abusers like to claim religion, yes we remember Kate, you are a "devout catholic", apparently. Another reason I would dream of professing to be "religious".

Claudia, I do of course recall full details of your delightful cat called *****, which even gives away his colouring and I am afraid that yes, my parrot and your cat are just not safe from this lot!

xxxx

docmac said...

Note the spelling mistakes :-))

It was actually zzzxz.

viv said...

****not*******!!!

Cláudia said...

Doc and Viv, ROTFLMAO!

hope4truth said...

Hello Viv

Yes I am sure she will spend a misrable time in Jail avoiding all the people who know what she did was very wrong I wont loose any sleep over her.

Doc

If I click on your link will I see any flippin angels I really cant face that tonight ??? xxx

dylan said...

Apologies - poor grammar: Dog IS called Dylan, but he's not mine anymore! Went with my ex but at least the cats are happy about it! Or maybe I should just admit that I changed his name to Dylamina and had his n*ts chopped off ;-) xx

docmac said...

No, Hope. You'll read an ex angel.

hope4truth said...

DYL

LOL x

dylan said...

Hope,

I'd give the angels and fairies a miss if I were you. Bluerrghh! xx

hope4truth said...

DOc

Will give it a click then x

docmac said...

Dyl, lucky Dylan was not xxxxx xxxxx's dog. He would have renamed him Dialaminor.

hope4truth said...

Doc

Oh is this a hate site then?

How can anyone hate Madeleine? anyone here who does should be banned imediatly and sent away to spend time with those who have pushed her out of the picture and made her neglectful parents the Victims of their own vile crime....

x

dylan said...

Docmac - lolololol!

dylan said...

Hope, well said, yet again.

Just a thought, I'm sure my partner in Prada (Zodiac) won't mind if we add cats, dogs, goldfish etc to the LEPS project. Poor Zodiac hasn't been away for a while and I'm sure I can find her a conference on Goldfish in Danger somewhere exotic. Zodiac, time to polish your patent leather shoes and buff up your briefcase :)
xx

docmac said...

Hope

This is not a hate Madeleine site. The two people who hated her the most post elsewhere.

dylan said...

Docmac,

Too true. Can't see what is so evil about caring about a little girl and her siblings who were abandoned by their parents.

hope4truth said...

Dyl

How are you?

We are at our lowest leval of pets ever we only have a Dog and 2 Rabbits now :o(

Poor Hampster gave up the fight a couple of weeks ago and I have vowed not to ever replace him...

When the girls were smaller we had gerbils hampsters Gunniea Pigs Rabbits Dog and a Chinchilla (who was 14 when he died) my Husband bought him for my 21st Birthday he was lovely...

Still the Bunnies are spoilt I had a big cage for them for my Birthday (Mr Hope kept on at me for weeks about what I wanted and it was the only thing I could think of) so they live in the Conservatory at night and have the Summer House and Farden all day. I love those Bunnys bless them the Dog likes them as well...

xxx

hope4truth said...

Doc

I know it is not a hate Madeleine site that is what I was saying the other one cant think much of her to defend her parents the way they do (or any other parent who has been jailed for murdering their daughter) Bitch Spry will probebly be their new poster girl (beats that sickly angel)....

dylan said...

Docmac,

Do you think that xxxxx xxxxx is a man? I'm trying to remember the contents of an email from it but much as I've tried to forget it, thought it was female??

xx

dylan said...

I'm OK thank you, Hope. I took up some voluntary work whilst I'm waiting for PhDy things to happen and I've been really enjoying it. Turns out that I may be able to be paid for what I'm doing but I'm happy to just carry on unpaid for the time being.

I once thought of getting a chinchilla. The are so cute! We have a hamster called xxxxx which we all love but she's quite old now and one fish left that's hanging on for dear life which I have lovingly named: "Bloody hell I wish you'd die so I can get a snake" . But it doesn't seem to want to play the game!

Your bunnies sound like they have a lovely life and the pleasure of roaming freein your farden :) xx

docmac said...

Dyl

xxxxx xxxxx is male.

dylan said...

Docmac, really?? How do you know??

Mail me if you can't say here! ;-)

xx

dylan said...

Oh, and I forgot to ask: I take it Arsenal have dropped a few league places have they? :( xx

hope4truth said...

Dyl

Bunny's have the best life ever we have only had them a few months but they make me really soppy they are called xxxxx and xxxxx but I think they are under the impresion they are called Come and On as I stand in the farden when I want them and shout (in a really silly voice) Come on and they both hop over (usually hoping I have a rabbit treat in my hand) but I can pretend it is because they love me!!!

xxx

docmac said...

Arsenal are fourth :-))

Can't mail off this computer. Will tomorrow.

Cláudia said...

Hey, Doc, any comments yet? ;-)

docmac said...

Hope

Keep the mosquitos away!

docmac said...

Dunno. I haven't visited there yet. Doubt it though.

Cláudia said...

Doc, yeah. Not likely.

ratonthebeam said...

It's a shame you can't put pictures in posts here. I have 2 cats, 2 fish tanks, 3 generations of gerbils and an axolotl I could put on. And their names, too!

dylan said...

Hope, aw!! I've gone all mushy now! I didn't realise bunnies could be that responsive.

Docmac - oh dear! Did that happen today? last I heard they were top of the league but then I've been too busy to watch footie :(

Off to watch a bit of telly. Goodnight everbody, sleep well.

love, xyxzy

hope4truth said...

Doc

I will get them vacinated next week I have read so much about Rabbits since I got them but did not know you could get them vacinated against that!

Thanks x

hope4truth said...

Rat

What is an axolot? x

hope4truth said...

Night DYL

They are very clever they like to play with balls and any washing that drops on the floor they grab and run off with xxx

Cláudia said...

Rat, you're a brave woman! :-)

xxxx, enjoy your telly and then sleep well. Read you tomorrow.

viv said...

hope4truth said...
Doc

Oh is this a hate site then?

How can anyone hate Madeleine? anyone here who does should be banned imediatly and sent away to spend time with those who have pushed her out of the picture and made her neglectful parents the Victims of their own vile crime....

x

Hope!

Your wish is my command I sifted the dross and of course they immediately went home with their fellow child abusers

Waves to Supertroll, Rosiepops, Jane Gin and Tonic (what a pervert, especially when she forgot to shop for tonic) Gina et al and all the other buggers I sent packing for those readers of this site who are banned and need things spelling out in plain (and very simple) English.

Sad souls seem to have given up trying to post on here! I cannot think why!!

viv said...

Doc/Claudia

It is Plain and Simple, those who do not believe in Justice for Children, or those who seek to achieve it, are not welcome on this site!

xxxxxxxxx

Cláudia said...

Viv, I think that has been clear all along.
The interesting part is that some from 'the other side' are starting to open their eyes.

hope4truth said...

Hi Viv

Thought you would send them where they belong.

I am all for sympathy and compasion but it wears a bit thin when the people I am wasting my compasion on show none whatsoever for their daughter.

x

viv said...

Just had a look at ST's highly popular blog and see he has now amassed a massive 18 posts, including his own/Rosiepops. Some going that!

I especially love this little pearl of wisdom:

"There are no true facts there unless Viv has copied some newspaper article."

Oh, so it is not only the News of the World that prints the true facts now then is it, we will have to include, Correio de Manha and many other of my favourite Portuguese newspapers. Ummmmm well I have discerning tastes and just cannot actually accept that ALL newspapers print the true facts. You pudding face troll:-))

docmac said...

Oh Viv, you're pretty pumped up this evening. Sparkling mineral water? :-)))

Cláudia said...

Viv, ST's allies are dropping like flies.

viv said...

Pity Viv did not follow our example.

Mum21


Priceless!!! The day I become a racist, child abuse supporting old bitch like you is the day I need a box!

Talk about hypocrisy!!

viv said...

Doc, I did not have any sparkling mineral water at all today, I rarely do, but I did just grout the bathroom tiles, with two cigarettes and a cup of strong tea, so that must explain it:-))

Cláudia said...

Viv, anonymous, the ugly old hag and ST itself are lately working double shifts! :-)

docmac said...

I like this one from Rosie, Viv.

"Hideousness begets ugliness and stalker begets psychotic. You are welcome to your unhinged world, may you all be very happy. Now run along and go forth and multiply. Cya have a nice day now."

Poor education and writing skills beget poverty. 'Cya', what is that, like some teenage word or something? Are you really a 56 year old grandmother? Did any woman ever find you attractive enough to 'multiply' with? :-)))))

Cláudia said...

Doc, ROTFLMAO!

hope4truth said...

Viv

It would be a fate worse than death to end up like that nasty piece of work...

x

docmac said...

Claudia, Rosie must get a lot of mail, because as he has assured us on countless occasions, he never reads this blog.

viv said...

Claudia, maybe Supetroll got back on the desperately needed anti-psychotic meds and so is no longer in quite so many minds.

Doc, I do think Psychopops tries to learn from this blog, but in his translation it all comes out quite horribly muddled, I cannot think why!

Hope, rotting from the inside out and the face caught up:-))

hope4truth said...

Viv

LOL x

Cláudia said...

Doc, of course it doesn't. ;-)

Viv, that would explain it! Brilliant! LOL

docmac said...

Oh dear, the pink blog has had only two posts all day. One from the '5 or more in the bed' man and 1 from that fount of wisdom Blandz.

viv said...

Claudia, I try to explain things as I see them in my own lucid way but not everyone thinks I am brilliant! My ex employers just lick their wounds but would not go quite that far as and for the Pro McCanns, well...(!)

True friends are worth a lot!


xxxxxx

viv said...

OMG Doc, I thought Blandz got chased by two dogs that she hates the sight of, what is more she is terrified of them, and was never to be seen again.

Maybe they locked the dogs up for her?

Cláudia said...

"The pictures on her site are gross. They show someone with a mind full of rage. But I am scared of her and I am not going to say anything."

This is just one of the unpublished comments left on my blog about ST.

viv said...

Naming of children online can be done but it should be done in a controlled way. (Supertroll)

Sinister McCannisms in those words methinks x Very sinister and controlled indeed!

Let us continue to support those who demonstrate love and respect for children, not those who wish to be controllers, that is quite psychopathic!

viv said...

Claudia, One can understand that poster's sentiments but I think the gender is not "she". It is a man with a gun and tits:-)) I know how sick! Could be a bit of a control freak, perhaps, but rage definitely yes, one only has to look to the right on this blog, for another terrifying picture depicting this, sorry guys, this is not meant to be a horror site but some things really are just horrible!

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Viv

You have mail.

viv said...

OK ICTOAN will have a look, hope you are not telling me off:-)))

ICantThinkOfAName said...

viv

These days I'm usually the one at the receiving end of a telling off.

Cláudia said...

Viv, I currently have around 70 unpublished comments on my blog. Some because I thought were inappropriate, some because of the language used, some because they are anti in the extreme, some because people have asked me not to publish them and some because people want to express their opinions but are afraid to do it with their usual nicks.

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Viv

Thank you for the reply.

viv said...

Hiya Claudia

Well it is an interesting way to gather up what people are saying but clearly requires a lot of work.

I certainly have no time for people who wish to suggest Kate and Gerry should be dealt with in some unlawful way!

xxx

Cláudia said...

Viv, the only think I have to do is not click the publish button. :-)

hope4truth said...

Goodnight ALL

xxx

viv said...

Hiya ICTOAN

I do know how to spell scenarios:-)))

My fingers cannot keep up!

x

Cláudia said...

Boa noite, Hope.

viv said...

Goodnight Hope and thanks as ever for some heartfelt opinions on this case!

Viv x

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Viv

Being a Gentleman I would not have admitted to noticing,

docmac said...

ST has sent word that I should get back to my mopping and car attendant duties. Jeez, ST, I only said I sweep the car park. Car attendants need brains and stamina and I don't want you out of a job either.

BTW, how did you know those comments were from a blog? And that it has now closed? Do you google yourself all day? :-)))))

docmac said...

OK, uniform's on and ready to go. Sleep well all.

Cláudia said...

Dodc, two good questions. ;-)
Boa noite, Doc. Beijinhos.

Cláudia said...

Boa noite, all.

viv said...

Lol Doc and good question too!

PC Grime is a very famous car attendant, one should not knock the position, especially if armed with a couple of highly paid dogs!

You go for it Doc, I know you are an animal lover and wish you every success. I suppose the only draw back with this job is the filth that some people stash in the back of their cars, maybe sometimes you would need a gas mask due to the rotting meat and dirty nappies!

x

viv said...

Boa Noite querida Claudia

ate amanha

Vivxx

viv said...

The police dog who earns more than the Chief ConstableLast updated at 11:40 30 December 2005

Comments (4) Add to My Stories Keela: Has a nose for trouble
One of the country's top police dogs earns more than her force's Chief Constable, it has emerged.
Keela, a 16-month-old springer spaniel, can sniff out the smallest samples of human blood - even after items have been cleaned or washed many times.
The South Yorkshire Police dog has already helped forces across the country, including working on the high-profile stabbing of Abigail Witchalls in Surrey, and is hired out at £530 per day, plus expenses.
If she worked every day of the year, she would earn almost £200,000 - around £70,000 more than her force's Chief Constable.
Now forces worldwide have expressed interest in her specialist training and Keela will be travelling to America in the New Year to assist the FBI with two murder inquiries.
A South Yorkshire force spokeswoman said the crime scene investigation dog has saved more then £200,000 nationally since April this year, helping with investigations in Ireland, Cornwall, Wiltshire, Surrey and the Thames Valley areas.
Her handler, Pc Martin Grime, has been responsible for training Keela, along with National Search Adviser Mark Harrison, since June last year.
Then the eight-week-old puppy, who was bred by West Midlands Police, became the centre of an experiment to see whether she could be trained to work as part of the team.
Trained every day
Unlike ordinary police dogs, Keela has never taken part in the usual six-week training course but has been trained, bit by bit, by Pc Grime every day.
Her programme involved training her to ignore decomposing body materials other than human blood.
And instead of barking when she smells blood, she has been trained to have a "passive" alert - freezing with her nose as near to the subject matter as possible without touching, to enable scientists to recover the sample quickly and efficiently.
This technique has saved time and money on major investigations.
Keela was called in to help Surrey Police when Mrs Witchalls, 26, was stabbed in the neck and left paralysed as she pushed her toddler son in his buggy near their home in Little Bookham on April 20.
Pc Grime said: "As a result of this incident 350 items of clothing had been recovered which all needed testing for evidence.
"To have the items examined at the forensic lab would have cost £200 for each item.
"Keela managed to help in just one day which resulted in eight pieces of clothing being detected with blood stains on them."
She can search any area, including houses, cars, boats, both indoors and outdoors, and will lead her handler to spots of blood so small that humans cannot see them.
She screens textiles and can pick out traces of blood even after clothing has been washed many times or weapons cleaned.
Barking success
Although she is still in the early stages of her career, Keela has been more successful than her trainers hoped.
She has had a number of operational finds recovering murder weapons, identifying the blood of a victim in a suspect's car and screening numerous amounts of clothing belonging to suspects.
South Yorkshire Chief Constable Meredydd Hughes said: "Keela's training gives the force an edge when it comes to forensic investigation, which we should recognise and use more often.
"Martin has developed this capability through innovation and experience, and we are now considering how best to develop the training further.
"We know other forces are interested, both here and abroad, and we must see what opportunities we can develop.
"We know we have an operationally excellent dog section, and our specialist dogs are being developed in a unique way."

viv said...

There we are ST, a factual newspaper account, and I did not say a word, no need toxx

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Good Night Viv1

viv said...

Night ICTOAN

Have a great day tomorrow !

Viv x

Cláudia said...

Wishing you all a great afternoon!

dylan said...

Hi Claudia, thank you and I wish you a great afternoon too :)

Viv, thanks for the Keela article. Now you wouldn't pay £200,000 to an executive that couldn't produce the goods, would you?!! What a clever little hound she is.

xx

Wizard said...

Just when I was beginning to believe all the press were in cohoots with the McCanns I spied a small article in 19th Septembers 08 edition of Private Eye. I copy below:-

“Nearly 18 months on from Madeleine McCann’s disappearance, and still Britain’s media refuses to give up the hunt for new ways to milk the story.

“A girl who went missing four years ago and became known as ‘Italy’s Madeleine McCann’ was apparently found alive last night. Denise Pipitone was only four when she vanished in September 2004,” the Daily Mail reported on 12 September blithely brushing aside such concepts as precedence and linear time, not to mention the fact that the phrase “Italy’s Madeleine McCann” had hitherto never appeared anywhere in the global media.

Perhaps mindful of this, the Daily Mirror insisted on waiting for scientific confirmation: “DNA test were being carried out last night on an eight-year-old girl to see if she is Italy’s version of Madeleine McCann.”

As it turns out, she wasn’t even Italy’s version of Denise Pipitone, with test establishing that the Albanian gypsy who had been arrested with her on the Greek island of Kos was, as she insisted, her mother – a fact which went unnoted in either the Mail or the Mirror. “

Cláudia said...

Wizard, thank you for an uncommon vision from the press these days!

viv said...

Hiya Wizard

Thanks for that excerpt from Private Eye. I tend to agree it is not that the British newspapers like Kate and Gerry McCann, it is the fact they can keep making money from the story. This is identical to how the milked the Princess Di story long after her death and indeed this only stopped when they had a new long runner, Kate and Gerry McCann.

But the real story should not be about them, it should be about what they did to little Madeleine, and the bringing of the McCanns to Justice for this, what this site will continue to focus on until such time as we see progress in this case!

xx

viv said...

WELL DONE RAT!!

I see you have Rosiepops issuing threats and telling you to wind your neck in, just like he has asked me to do more than once!! What an angry little man he is, with flat speedos we noticed :-)))

FAO ratonthebeam said...
Perhaps the rat who is living in a greenhouse, should stopping chucking those stones?
Something mentally wrong with this person and if they do not pack this up they are going to find themselves in hot water, very hot!
Give over rat, wind your neck in and stop playing silly stupid games because the only person you are really hurting is yourself.

29 September 2008 10:13

Claudia and Dilly, I hope you had a great day so far too!

Viv xxxxxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Viv. It's been a good day so far, thank you. Hope yours has been good too.

Oh my, we have Poops issuing threats all over. That's always a good sign. It's a sign its pissed off and someone is doing something well. Good.
Hey, Rat, you are afraid, oh so very afraid? :-)

hope4truth said...

Hello

What I find sickening is anyone would dare lable Denise Pipitone Italy's Madeleine McCann Denise disapeared in 2004 long before poor Madeleine.

I know it is nit picking but every child is as special and as important as the next so why lable a child who was missing before Madeleine after her?

Whatever 2 very small children are away from their familys I just wish people would stop trying to turn everything into a story for the McCanns..

Denise Pipitone is as important as any other child and needs no comparison to anyone.

God Bless all missing and abused children everywhere each are special as there own person.

Di said...

Hello all

Viv.. it is good to read you are grouting, therefore coming to the final stages. I hope you are thrilled with the results.

Hello Hope

I agree with everything you say, but sadly whilst people are prepared to buy tabloids they will print anything to grab the headlines and sell the paper. I stopped buying a paper when the truth was not printed about Madeleine's demise. I can't say I have missed anything.

I find all the comparisons of Madeleine to other missing children quite sickening.

Di said...

Oh dear here we go again, it took 3days!!

posted by isis on 3A's from the Irish Independant.



Saturday September 27 2008

Tom Worden

POLICE in Spain were last night searching the holiday island of Majorca for missing toddler Madeleine McCann, after a British couple claimed to have seen her on a beach.

Detectives were scouring hotels and holiday apartments for two dark-haired women seen with a young blonde girl matching Maddy's description.

The holidaying couple were convinced they saw the missing child with the two women at the Cala d'Or, in the south east of the island, last Sunday morning.

But they did not report the possible sighting to police for three days.

A police source said: "The couple's account was detailed and there were no contradictions in their statements.

"However, we are aware of the numerous previous sightings all over the world that have turned out to be false and it could well be that the couple have made an honest mistake.

"The couple believe they saw the girl last Sunday and at first, attempted to contact the McCanns through the internet.

"They reported the incident to us on Wednesday, after seeing a missing persons poster with Madeleine's photograph on it."

The British couple, who are in their 50s, were on a two-week holiday and had arrived on September 11.

Spotted

They were enjoying a morning at Cala Gran beach when they spotted a pale blonde girl under a parasol.

The couple were suspicious because the two women she was with had dark hair and did not look like they were related to the girl.The toddler was colouring in a book on her own and was wearing sunglasses.

A member of staff at the hotel said: "The couple noticed her similarity to Maddy and tried to get closer, but because of the sunglasses couldn't see if she had Madeleine's distinctive eye.

"The woman is very religious and was praying a lot because she did not know what to do.

"On Wednesday, one of the staff took her to the police and acted as a translator while the couple gave their statement."

The couple flew back to Manchester on on Thursday.

Police have been to hotels and holiday apartments in Cala d'Or and nearby Cala Egos and Cala Ferrera.

Madeleine was days short of her fourth birthday when she disappeared from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz, in southern Portugal in May 2007.

Private detectives from Spanish firm Metodo 3 may travel to Majorca to investigate the sighting. The Barcelona-based firm was paid£50,000-a-month until their involvement was scaled down late last year.

British firm Oakley International took over the search, funded by the McCanns' millionaire friend Brian Kennedy. http://www.independent.ie/world-news/eu ... 84110.html

Di said...

Sorry, meant to say I have not had time to look back so if it has been posted before apologies.

ratonthebeam said...

Oh yeah, Claudia. I am not the one who chose to publish what I THOUGHT were someone else's personal details all over the Internet. So I am not bothered. Those who did should be, though.

hope4truth said...

Hello DI

Have they finished all the work on your house yet???

I dont buy papers anymore either they are so un child friendly...

Hope you are well xxx

docmac said...

Di

Eddie does not lie. Spending public money and donations from deluded fools on these sightings is ridiculous.

It's time for K&G to give the money to charity as they said they would. Oh hang on, wasn't Heather Mills going to do the same with her divorce settlement? Cut from the same cloth..

Di said...

Hello Hope

No, the work is not finished yet unfortunately. Trying to get people back is proving to be very difficult. Viv has the right idea do it yourself :o))

Another disaster, just noticed earlier the fridge freezer has stopped working, I cannot get hold of Neff to book a call out, typically I have just stocked it up :o((

hope4truth said...

DI

Oh no what a shame...

Why do freezer's never break down when they are empty...

I thought there was a major credit crunch but my Mum and Dad want some work done to their house and no one wants to get back to them with a quote???

It will all get sorted soon and for now you can cook everything in your freezer and have a party xxx

Di said...

Hi Doc

I have full faith in both dogs.

Spending money donated by people who believed it was going to help find Madeleine, but in fact has been totally wasted is scandalous.

How the McCann's sleep at night or function during the day is beyond me.

Off to watch telly.

Wizard said...

Last week, as I mentioned, I went to Malcesine on Lake Garda for a family wedding. Over 80 guests travelled from GB to attend and everyone enjoyed the trip and it was a very beautiful wedding with a breathtaking backdrop of the lake and mountains.

I have two sons who are in their late teens, one of whom started university today. It’s therefore some while since they were little and I forgot all the paraphernalia you have to carry around when you have young children. After following this case it was heart warming to see members of my extended family taking their young children out with them to eat in the evening and allowing them to enjoy and participate in the family outing in a very child friendly country. Italy is in this respect, I believe, similar to Portugal and it poignantly highlighted to me the gross irresponsibility of the McCanns who choose to leave their small children alone night after night. It was really not necessary.

All children of the friends and family of the bride and groom enjoyed their trip and returned home accounted for safe and sound.

docmac said...

Wizard

That is as it should be. The Tapas lot's way was and is pathological. No matter where you come from or what 'class' you are or believe yourself to be.

Good night all.

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Wizard

What you say about children joining their parents at celebrations, meals out etc. is true I think of all South European countries. I certainly noticed it when I was living in Southern France.

Cláudia said...

Wizard, that is the way it should be. That's healthy family environment.

Doc, boa noite? ;-) Boa noite!

Rat, they certainly should.

Cláudia said...

Off for a capuccino with a friend.
BBL.

viv said...

Hiya Di and good to hear from you again.

The work on my house is nowhere near finished and I have had great difficult actually getting people to give quotes.

The bathroom tiling is almost finished and I am doing this myself but am rather slow. I chased up a quote today to get a new boiler fitted in there. Additionally I need new piping due to the living room /bedroom major work and some new radiators.

I have now finally got a decent quote from a builder to knock the two living rooms into one, put new stairs in and extend Luke's bedroom due to moving the stairs. He will do that work when Luke and I are on hols in Egypt beginning of Nov, I fly on 30/10 and cannot wait. My office is almost completely finished apart from the carpenter damaged some of the new plaster and that needs repairing. The kitchen has been changed a bit too and that is almost complete, except I will change the UPVC patio doors for oak when the major building work is finished. Nothing has happened to my bedroom as yet but that is going to be done last of all. So I am making progress but not as quickly as I would have liked!

Viv xxx

dylan said...

Goodness! This must be a record early night for everyone!

Di, I hope your fridge freezer gets sorted but I do like Hope's suggestion of an impromptu food party :)

Claudia, enjoy your capuccino and company.

ICTOAN - are you still up?
Wizard & Hope too?

Wizard, sounds like it was a lovely wedding :-) It doesn't do any harm to point out either that all of the weddings that I have attended in this country, the children have been equally as cherished. I don't think (and don't want to think) that K&G are typically representative of British parental behaviour.

Goodnight everyone else. Sleep well. xx

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Goodnight dylan

I'm still monitoring while progressing with my cataloguing.

viv said...

Hiya Wizard

Thanks for your lovely post about a family wedding and children being treated in an inclusive way. I do agree it is not about class, it is about how normal parents treat their treatment rather than just trying to dump them.

I think that Kate and Gerry have actually tried to move class though and that can create problems in itself, they clearly have working class roots but due to their profession only have become middle class, I do not think they act or speak in a typically middle class way though!

Child abuse happens in all classes! Abusive parents who do not know how to love and care for dependant little children, they are only concerned for themselves. But it is a fact it is more common among the working class who have other pressures in their lives. It is not an option for Kate and Gerry McCann to dump their children and not even pay for a babysitter! Quite incredibly continuing to dump the twins in the creche/on relatives so that they could jet off, go jogging etc even after Madeleine was supposedly snatched from their "care". If I had been them I would have found it very humiliating and embarrassing to actually have to be told by Mark Warner, now come on continuing to leave the twins here is just not on, but there again, I am not them and the situation just would not have arisen. Their response to supposedly having Madeleine abducted was to carry on just leaving the twins, even that night, with a so called predator (s) hanging around, simply unbelievable!

Viv x

Cláudia said...

Back from the cappuccino.
Wishing you all a good night.
Boa noite a todos.
Viv, beijinhos, querida amiga.
Boa noite e até amanhã.

viv said...

Boa Noite querida Claudia

Dorme bem

com amor

Viv xxxxxxxxx

viv said...

Why would anyone be "offended" by a "Madeleine forum".

Maybe "Rosiepops" can tell us what he meant by that, but I could hazard a guess. Sorry, we do not subscribe to the "Defence Fighting Fund" funded of course by the "Find Maddie Fiddle". Oh, and have you ever heard of "don't count your chickens", they tend to come home to roost. Personally I think both the dogs are not wrong at all,having just watched them again on Claudia's excellant blog, marking that identical spot behind the sofa, just my opinion, of course:-)))




Brilliant 3 Arguidos Follows Viles
by Rosiepops on Mon Jul 28, 2008 10:21 pm

The madeleine forums take flight and goes behind closed doors!

Now no one can accidentally stumble across these hate places and be offended by them.

They just cannot stand being proved totally and utterly wrong and apparently the admin over there has been forced to remove hundreds of libellous posts!

Yippeeeeeee Don't bother coming back!

bath theory said...

Latest sighting of Madeleine is in Outer Siberia. The caring parents rush to the private plane on stand by in Leicestershire to check out whether this is really Madeleine.

12 hrs later
The couple land in Siberia and a TV crew meets them. They are asked by the local reporter. Your child has been missing all this time just how many times have you had to jump on a plane and check out the sightings that are reported.

'Urrgh. This is our first in over a year and a half actually.'

The local reporter is stunned.

'But your child is apparently missing how can this be so?'

Fortunately a well balanced, reflective and inquiring passer by says ' Ask them whether they searched for their child the very first night too.'

bath theory said...

JFM

docmac said...

BT

I don't think they'd jump in their car if there was a 'sighting' in the next village.

Cláudia said...

Doc, I agree! :-)

ICantThinkOfAName said...

There wouldn't be any point unless it was to maintain the pretence.

ICantThinkOfAName said...

It seems as if a poster on one of the hate sites posts there because it hates children.

Cláudia said...

ICTOAN, could you expand? :-)

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Claudia

Not sure if this is what you want me to expand on:

"Anonymous said...

How could I resist putting in my two bits as this is one of my biggest complaints when I go to a nice place for dinner??

Children with no manners who are running around, screaming, shouting, crying...

I now insist that I be given a table where I cannot see or hear children....
CantThinkOfAName said...
Wizard

What you say about children joining their parents at celebrations, meals out etc. is true I think of all South European countries. I certainly noticed it when I was living in Southern France.

Monday, 29 September 2008 20:54:00 o'clock BST

30 September 2008 04:11"

dylan said...

Afternoon all,

Claudia, maybe ICTOAN is alluding to poops? Viv's blog exists for the sake of JFM and all children, whereas ST's exists to slag other people off. Therefore since Rosie is so chuffed that s/he thinks we're going down, stands to reason it hates children ;-)

How are you all today? Miserable weather here with not a hope in hell now for an Indian summer :(

Have the 3As really had to delete posts?

xx

dylan said...
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Cláudia said...

ICTOAN, thank you. That post obviously comes from a child hater/neglecter.

Dylan, I'm fine, thank you. And so is the weather! :-)

Cláudia said...

Ooops,

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