4 Sept 2008

NEWS FROM CORREIO 1-4 SEPTEMBER

HI All, have not had time to be around much I am working so hard whilst the house is being done up, but thought the reports below from Correio were interesting. Clarence Mitchell was supposed to be going on to work for the DG man, first we hear he sacked their private investigator and then, it would seem, he sacked Clarence Mitchell too. I am not sure why the new firm think he is good at media spinning but I guess he did take on an almost impossible task. If this means we do not have to hear any more from him that will be a relief, and maybe the McCanns finally listened to what I am sure must have been legal advice offered, shut up. Does anyone think they will be demanding to have the process re-opened, well I am not holding my breath! Oh, and a Spanish lawyer, eight months later, um I get that feeling of deja vous again, or am I just dreaming? Clearly I should be:-))

Nite x

Viv x










Claim: prosecutor obliged to investigate Lawyer force reopening Manuel Jiménez Maysounave seeks the resumption of the process of Maddie McCann to be investigated a new runway that he provides. The Spanish lawyer says he saw a couple with a girl, "apparently Madeleine, in the bus station of Santander, about eight months." The registered letter with this information, which the CM had access, the judge should arrive today. The letter begins by explaining that took eight months to reveal this information "for not knowing that PJ spent his time working to support the hypothesis wrong to blame Kate for concealment of a corpse nonexistent." The lawyer who is identified with the number 118 of the College of Lawyers of Alava in the Basque Country, writes after having seen what it says on January 18, 2008, during a trip by bus, which fell by Santander. "Doing time in the bar of the season, came the surprise. A girl of four to five years, beautiful, seemingly Madeleine, came with a couple of 45 to 55 years. It was an unforgettable flash. I thought:" You are already found. " Manuel Maysounave describes the girl as being in "good health, happy and well dressed." About the couple, says he "was British" and not be felt "pressure" on the child. It describes a man with "white beard and little" with about 1.80 meters tall, after saying that no photographs of the accused knew Murat, leaving the air an insinuation that it could be that the raptor. Francisco Pagarete, the Portuguese-British lawyer, ignores the letter and says: "It is very strange." The spokesman for McCann, Clarence Mitchell, also says nothing know. Rogerio Alves, one of the couple's lawyers, ensures ignore this new data and ensures that they will consider what to do. Order left QUESTIONS IN AIR After months of investigations and to avoid suspicion arising from the formation of accused to remain forever in the air, the prosecutor of Portimão eventually opt for closing the file. However, the order is far from close certainties. The magistrate of Portimão in the air has left many questions about the behaviour of parents, also by removing virtually consider unlikely the possibility of abduction. The same had already made the PJ that, however, not managed to find the evidence of the death of the child. DETAILS CATALOGUE OF CRIME One of the claims of Spanish lawyer is set up wizard in the process. However, the law which clearly defines the crimes where anyone can do, which is not the case here. In the case of the disappearance of Madeleine, only the parties as the child's parents, may request that procedural quality. The running TIMES Archiving the documents happened in the last days of July. As the case has not accused prisoners, not the time went on vacation. It is still possible for players procedural challenge the closing of the prosecutor. The McCann are in a position to do so. GONÇALO IN SPAIN Goncalo Amaral, former coordinator of research to the disappearance of Madeleine who left the PJ at the end of June, was yesterday in the neighbouring country to present the Spanish edition of the book 'The Truth of the Lie. " The Portuguese edition stays on top of sales. 02 September 2008 - 00:30 am New Runway: Lawyer Spanish threat to popular action Young look like Gerry, Murat and Payne The Spanish lawyer who now revealed a new clue about the disappearance of Madeleine McCann moves further details about the couple who accompanied an English girl like Maddie, on January 18, in Santander. Contactado by CM, Manuel Maysounave says the woman who saw the bus station "was similar to Gerry, father of Madeleine '. The lawyer says that only after seeing more attention with some photos of those involved in the process, managed to see that woman's face, Gerry McCann. 'I think it could be any family. Although use of dark glasses, was very similar to Gerry 'said Maysounave. As for man, approximately 50 years, the Spanish say 'could be Robert Murat or David Payne, a friend of McCann', who was with the couple on holiday on the beach of Light and whose involvement was considered suspect in several moments of process. Although the two men are physically very different, the lawyer insists that could be one of them, 'perhaps changed in appearance. " These are details that Manuel Maysounave either report to the process and, if not called to testify, admits even proceed with a class action. 'I said before because I did not want to upset', argues the lawyer, who now calls, in a letter to the judge of Instruction of the Court of Portimão to reopen the process Maddie. 18 DE JANEIRO THERE ARE MISSING 260 DAYS Maddie was missing are 260 days when the Spanish lawyer says he has seen this girl. SECRECY OF JUSTICE The day before, had been revealed that the process would be in secret of Justice until September. MARI LIGHT The disappearance of Spanish girl was the target of all the media. KETE TELEFONA The case revived the case Mari Luz Maddie. Kate McCann telephoned parents of children Spanish. Paul Marcellin The house has two bedrooms, living room, kitchenette and a bathroom with two hits and is mobilada03 September 2008 - 00:30 am Algarve: Apartment Ocean Club costs of 200 thousand euros Casa da Luz to venda For a little over 200 thousand euros anyone can at this time, try to buy the apartment 5A of the Ocean Club, where the small Madeleine disappeared in Praia da Luz The price, according to the Correio da Manha found, is considered the area as placing in the "middle market". The owners, Britons, recently cut relations with the Ocean Club, which until recently held the administration of the property, and chose a building in Praia da Luz, the Houses & Homes, to promote the venda sadly famous T2, to the detriment of agency directly linked to the resort group's Mark Warner, also located in that the county town of Lagos. The house, comprising two bedrooms, living room, kitchenette and bathroom, comdoisacessos (a main door and the other by a small garden on the side of the pool) and furnished, has attracted the interest of many buyers - and journalists - but So far the deal has not been achieved. According to local sources, it was with some relief that the management of the Ocean Club saw him be withdrawn responsibility for the apartment that the family chose McCann for a holiday. 'The owners were very unhappy with everything that happened. We seek the keys of the house and tried everything particularly, without the intervention of the resort ', said. The Houses & Homes describes the apartment as a 'good home, beautifully situated and can be rentabilizada'. However, curiously, was not placed so far in the building or in its vicinity, any card with the words' sells itself 'and the contact number of promoter, which suggests that the business is being prepared with the utmost of discretion, either by the owners or the real estate company. DETAILS INVESTIGATION Since the night of the disappearance of Maddie, the night of May 3 last year, the apartment was the responsibility of the Judiciary but came to be twice occupied by individuals. He then be under the responsibility of the PJ. LOCATION At about 300 meters from the beach, the apartment is inserted in an urbanisation built over 20 years. It is twinned and a house located in the ground-floor. It was this house, rented by parents for holidays, which disappeared Maddie McCann. ODOUR According to the report of PJ on the case, was in the apartment that the dogs cheiraram smell of corpses and traces of bodily fluids. The former inspector Richard Amaral, who wrote a book about Maddie, believes that the child died in the fourth. 04 September 2008 - 00:30 am Casa Pia: Descuido the trade union association has been corrected Judges show behalf of minors The Association of Judges revealed the names of some of the minors allegedly victims of sexual abuse at Casa Pia in Lisbon. The disclosure was accidental and happened after that trade union body Tuesday disclosed the full judgement that the State opposed to Paulo Pedroso and that led to the conviction of error for the first crude in its temporary custody. "It was a mere oversight that already made. During several hours of the names of two witnesses were visible. But these elements would never identify people. The situation has been corrected," said the CM Antonio Martins, president of the Association, explaining that being the public process the lapse is minor. The neglect has created some discomfort in the legal operators. As the witnesses alleged victims of sexual abuse, his identity is protected. And the fact that the name is not complete does not mean that others involved not to identify. This, however, is not unprecedented. Recently, when the case concerning the disappearance of Maddie McCann was in secret of justice, the ratio of Évora released on its website a judgement. The identities were cut, but quickly understand if people were involved. A few days after the judgement was deleted.

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ICantThinkOfAName said...

See comment 200.

ICantThinkOfAName said...

I see also that our old young friend Ecolab really has her teeth into the cloning issue.

http://www.the3arguidos.net/forum/
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=22979&st=0&sk=
t&sd=a

hope4truth said...

HI ICTOAN

THe more I read the more the McCann's and all of their supporters discust me.

Looks like the dogs did detect her cadavar and what a sad and evil world we live in when the parents are allowed to pervert the course of justice and make money from the death of their neglected child.

I am also discusted with Karen Mathews she has pleaded not guilty and for what she allowed Shannon to go through should be pleading guilty to every count she was accused of. These people want to cover their own back the children are an inconvenice for them and for that I hope they throw the book at her.

I am frustrated as Madeleine seems unimportant to the people who are giving to the fund and the media. On the 3As there is an article that Gerry said he was not going to answer any questions just like his heartless wife what kind of people are these?

Scum the lot of them I have plenty of empathy and sympathy for people who deserve it but I am not stupid and just because my life would be over if anything happend to my girls and I cant imagine the pain anyone would be going through if their child was truly in the hands of a peadophile ring does not mean I can just shut my eyes to the neglect spin and joyus photos of these two discusting people.

Madeleine would have been terrified what ever happend to her and if she could see how happy her parents are it would break her little heart.

Anonymous said...

Hi all,

Hope as usual, well said!

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Hope

Unfortunately I'm not as eloquent as you but I have very similar feelings to those you have expressed.

I seem to have alternate days of despair and of trust that Justice will be done.

Today is one of the "down" days.

Wizard said...

Ictoan, the reliability of the dogs are pretty impressive. That part of the research does not show the findings of a dog reacting to the odour of a cadaver when because of the construct of the investigation they know no such odour existed. I bet this scenario would drive the accuracy rate to 100% every time. Ie the dogs would just not react if no human cadaver odour was present.

Di said...

Good morning all

Viv

We came back home on Thursday to miss yesterdays awful weather.We still have workmen coming and going but we are getting there. How clever are you doing your own tiling, it is not something I would like to tackle.

Rosiepops washing the curtains whilst on holiday, that's priceless!!

I don't remember seeing the drum rolled into 5a and forensics are beyond me, it must be of some importance, as it is not your everyday police accessory!

dylan said...

Good morning all :-)

ICTOAN, thanks for the article. If you take those % values in combination with the fact that Keela marked the blood scent in the same places that Eddie marked the cadaver, this brings the chances of a mistake being made to ~ 1/100 (assuming Keela has a similar success rate)- and the McCanns say they want to know if Madeleine is dead but refuse to accept that there is any evidence??

Hi BT! Somehow I don't think Kate will ever go back and answer the questions. Let's hope that the questions are answered by Trial!

Nancy and Hope - morning to you both. The McCanns have never behaved like normal parents who believe that there child was abducted. Everything they have done since that day have been in stark contradiction to the actions of innocent people. There are indeed, probably hundreds of such contradictions. The press (IMO), should never let these questions go, they still need to be asked and at the moment, all we get is the extreme "pro" point of view & that disgusts me because fair and balanced reporting seems to have gone out of the window. I just wonder, what else are we being lied to about by the press' bias?
All is not always as it appears to be.....

xx

hope4truth said...

ICTOAN

Dont feel down mate.. Maybe they will get away with it but they have to stay together to make sure neither of them slips up. They have to live with the fear of advanced DNA or another witness comming forward, for her body to be discovered (although I think they disposed of that very well as Gerry's arrogant find the body prove we killed her smirk)...

For most of us the fact that our child was missing thanks to our neglagence would be enough to ensure we never forgave ourselves for being so selfish and it was the lack of concern and the covering their backs that made me think they knew exactly where she was.

Let them spin let them stay free forever there are worse places than a prison cell. They say they are devout Catholics I have no religion but I belive in God and I would not die a peaceful death if I knew I had to face him with this in my soul. Maybe they have been to confession and have been forgiven already but it is your actions to prove you are remorseful that God will look for not a few hail marys and on your way.

They think they are winning this tangled game they have created but they are so bad at it a few crocodile tears during an interview rubbish about not showing emotion and then all the photos of the oh so happy pair of them on her 4th Birthdya 8 days after they say she is in the hands of a peadophile gang? Most of us would be unable to leave the house not these two they had a ball spin that one Clarance.

hope4truth said...

DYL

Congratulations on your results!!!

I will e mail you just been so busy the last week xxx

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Hope

Thanks for your comments!

Dylan

I hope your head has recovered!

dylan said...

Morning Zodiac, Wizard, Di & Viv!

Viv, my memory's like a seive sometimes. How could I have forgotten to mention you??!!

Good luck with your house stuff both Di and Viv!

Poops washing the curtains. Quite ridiculous! You pay your holiday cottage/ appartment money and apart from making sure the kitchen and bathroom are clean, the house is tidy etc., you expect that the money you have spent goes towards anythng beyond that!! Otherwise, it's just not a holiday!

xx

hope4truth said...

Zodiac

Hi the sadest thing is no matter what the Pro's think it is a horrible thing to think about another human being but I cant help be a bit simple and think that a 3 year old deserves all the sympathy not her neglecting parents.

If my child were missing people could think what they liked of me it would not make the pain any worse what could?

xxx

Di said...

ICTOAN

I have been following Ecolabs threads with interest.

Thanks for the post from 3A's. After watching the video of Eddie & Keela there was no doubt in my mind as to what they found. I am just waiting to hear Kate & Gerry's comments on the subject, but I won't hold my breath.

BT.

I totally agree it is never too late to come clean, but I think these two are in such denial they really believe they are innocent.

Hi Hope

I just wonder how they can live with themselves. The more I see Kate being interviewed the more she comes across as a nasty piece of work, imo.

dylan said...

Thank you Hope :-) and don't worry. Kids going back to school means I've been fairly busy too.

ICTOAN - head is fine now thanks! It's amazing what comes out natural springs these days ;-)

xx

hope4truth said...

Dyl

Washing the cutrtains now that is clutching at straws LOL then again when I go on holiday if the curtains were in such a state they needed washing I would demand a new room...

xxx

Di said...

Hi Dyl

I gather you must have enjoyed your celebrations!!

hope4truth said...

Morning Di

Oh yes she looks a hard faced one now someone posted ages ago that Gerry was dominant at work and she was the dominant one at home. Maybe it was shock and she let him take the lead but when he came across so badly she told him to shut up and took over?

Any sympathy I ever had (and it was symapathy as in there for the grace of god go I) that she may have lost it or Madeline had an accident and she panicked and once it had been said out loud and snowballed it was too late to go back. Well they have trampled all over Madeleines memory in such a cold way I have no feelings for them at all they just discust me.

Hope your building work is going ok???
xxx

dylan said...

Hope,

"then again when I go on holiday if the curtains were in such a state they needed washing I would demand a new room..."

How true!!

There are no good reasons to wash curtains on holiday, unless of course the curtains tell a story you're not keen to be revealed to the authorities!

Di, I did, thank you!

xx

dylan said...

I'm off for the day now. I hope you all have a great Saturday and I'll catch up this evening.

xx

Di said...

Hope

There is an end in sight with the renovations thankfully.

I think it was Kate's Mum who said Madeleine was a handful and jealous of the twins. The fact we know Kate slept with the children after a row with Gerry, just maybe Kate took her anger and frustration out on Madeleine.

Di said...

Must go now but will look in later.

Enjoy your day.

hope4truth said...

Have a lovely Saturday all..

My husband has some friends coming over to watch footie all afternoon and early evening as we are lucky enough to have Satanta (I am not feeling lucky to have it at all) so the girls and I are off into town later and then to the Pictures dont know what we will see but whatever it is will be better than football..

See you later xxx

hope4truth said...

DI

Glad they are comming to an end...

xxx

Wizard said...

Interesting reading from Joana Morais’s blog this morning- I copy below for those who have now read it.
06/09/08
McCann couple feared being arrested in Portugal - Diário de Notícias

Maddie. The parents of the little English girl assert that they did not escape to England

Kate and Gerry criticize Gonçalo Amaral’s theories but will not sue him

The McCann couple feared being arrested by the Portuguese police. In a statement to today’s edition of Expresso newspaper, Maddie’s father admits that he feared that outcome, taking into account what was being written by the Portuguese press, but rejects that they escaped to England in order to avoid a possible detention.

During the first interview about their daughter’s disappearance that was given after the archiving of the process, Kate and Gerry McCann recognize that they felt the pressure from the Portuguese police, which motivated the fear of being preventively arrested in Portugal. “Taking into account everything that was being published in the papers, it is natural that we were afraid of being arrested. It was a horrible situation”, Gerry McCann remembers.

But in order to discard any suspicion about their behaviour, Kate McCann guarantees that the couple did not return to England as a form of escape, “even because the Portuguese police could have prevented the trip”.

After focusing on the statements concerning the investigations, the couple leaves the hope of still finding their daughter alive, in the air. “Sincerely, I don’t know whether Maddie is alive or not, or if someone hid her away. There is no evidence”, Gerry defends.

During the interview that was done in England, the couple seizes the opportunity to criticize Gonçalo Amaral’s theories. Nevertheless, Kate and Gerry do not ponder to sue the former inspector of the Polícia Judiciária who led the investigations.

The Maddie process was made public on the 4th of August, after having been archived by the Attorney General of the Republic due to a lack of evidence. Kate and Gerry McCann, together with Robert Murat, stopped being arguidos.


source: Diário de Notícias, 06.09.2008

Anonymous said...

ICTOAN,

I hope there is official justice for this child. However justice can come in other forms. It does look like the despicable pair are being left to flounder, hopefully. The Eddie and Keela vid alone is damning for them. Wonder what Oprah will make of that vid? They claim they have paid M3 £1 million, I do not believe that personally. Where has all that public donated money gone? With regard to washing the curtains. Why wash holiday apt curtains? IMO it is not only the curtains and CC that have been laundered several times. These are only my thoughts and opinion of a silly member of the public that thinks children come first and when parents leave them at risk to enjoy 'me time' then that is neglectful not only neglectful but the acts of selfish, ignorant, despicable people. Greed might come back and bite them in the butt big time and by doing so it might just bring some form of justice with it.

Wizard said...

So the McCanns' will not sue Amaral - I wonder why?

Cláudia said...

We all know you won't sue Mr Amaral. He asked to be sued and in spite of the pathetic performance by His Pinkness promising swift legal action, we all suspected such a thing would never happen. But why, oh why?

Niki said...

Hello everyone!
Hope you are all well:)


Doc said yesterday:
2. It usually requires incredibly severe trauma to cause instantaneous death. One hears almost weekly of people who fall from multistorey buildings and either survive or die later still on the street, in the ambulance or in hospital. I would have to go way back to remember a child who sustained an accidental injury (causing bleeding) IN the home who died instantly.
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Everyone knew that the kids left alone would not leave their appartments. How can anyone be so sure? Either they sedate the children, or they tie them up! Like you do in the pram, in the highchear, in the car, in bed...etc. So what if Kate tied up Madeleine in the sofa while she bathed the twins? Lets say with a rope long enough for Madeleine to get it around her neck (or that she was tied around the neck by the parents as a "punishment"), fall behind the sofa in an attemt to free herself, chrush her head (bleeding) and strangel herself? No noice, no attempt of rescue, no need of an ambulance...

--

Ok, that was my last theory... I'll stick to reality and evidence from now...

Have a nice day:)
30 degrees here again... Can't wait for a nice rainy day!!

Cláudia said...

Mr Amaral is probably the only person they would have reasons to sue, if they were certain that they had nothing to hide. The files and also his book are the reason why there is so many suspicion. If they wanted to stop it, they would have to stop the source, in this case Mr Amaral. He is waiting. And so are we.

docmac said...

RE Expresso interview:

An investigation by Portuguese police failed to find Madeleine McCann
Kate and Gerry McCann have spent more than £1m eh? when? trying to find their daughter Madeleine, the couple have said.

Advertising, website costs, legal fees and payments to several detective agencies made up the bulk of the bill. Paid for by?...

And Mrs McCann told Portuguese newspaper Expresso: "We can't set a limit. A child does not have a price. We will pay what we have to." Eh? When are you selling Rothley Manor then?

Madeleine, of Rothley, Leicestershire, disappeared aged three on holiday in the Algarve on 3 May last year.

Mrs McCann said: "It just takes one person to make the one phone call we so hope for. We know she was abducted you know this how? and believe someone knows or suspects something.

"We want to find her alive. But if she is dead we want to know. There's nothing in the police report that indicates anything bad has happened to her." Eh? You just said you know she was abducted. We know that you believe this to be by paedophiles. So that's fine then, nothing bad in that.

The £1m spent so far was described as a "broad figure" that's no lie ;-) by family spokesman Clarence Mitchell, and came from public donations and the proceeds of a £550,000 legal payout from Express newspapers.

The family has received additional financial support from Cheshire-based businessman Brian Kennedy. Many still want to know why.

There is a further £500,000 remaining in the Find Madeline fund, Mr Mitchell added. Yes, yes, it's always 500k. So why isn't Kate spending it, as claimed above?

In the interview, the couple also said their three-year-old twins, who talk about their sister coming home, had helped them deal with what had happened. I'm not going to say how wrong this statement is.

Mrs McCann said: "There are photos of Madeleine all around the house and every day we speak to the twins about her. !!!

"She is an important part of our lives. Sean and Amelie [the twins] still speak about her and involve her in their games." !!!

In the interview, Mrs McCann criticised detective Goncalo Amaral who led the police search for Madeleine and later wrote a book on the case.

"All I will say about this, and because I'm not going to waste my time on Mr Amaral, is that as a professional and as a person his behaviour has been a disgrace." Ahem, that's what many think about you.

Mr McCann said they "profoundly regret" that someone saw in their actions the opportunity to take Madeleine, but insisted the couple had not been negligent. You have absolutely no remorse and no soul, you bastard!

docmac said...

Niki

The heat has got to you :-)

Cláudia said...

Doc, I think there is something intrinsically wrong with these people. Something which comes from within.
If I were them I would be terrified. Because if there was an abductor, that abductor killed someone in apartment 5A. Since they claim Madeleine is alive and well, another investigation needs to start to find out who died there. Of course I would like someone to ask them why they did not panick when they saw Eddie and Keela's footage. That footage indicates that the 'intruder' killed someone and the only person whose whereabouts are not known is Madeleine.

Cláudia said...

P.S: Doc, did you know they do not intend to sue Mr Amaral? ;-)

docmac said...

Yes I read that. Wonder why?

Cláudia said...

Doc, I can't possibly figure it out. ;-)
The 'forgot my child outside a shop an laugh about it' brigade must be terribly disappointed. They were already making plans on how to spend Mr Amaral's money. Oh, cruel life.

docmac said...

They do seem to enjoy spending other peoples' money, Claudia. Have they yet thanked anyone who donated?

docmac said...

Claudia

Would you be able to e-mail me something? The bit from Amaral's book where he says they were certain she died in 5A. He then says an accident was the focus of the investigation, but he goes on to say more.. The 'more' is the part I would like to reread. Thanks.

Be back in a while.

Cláudia said...

Doc, I don't remember them thanking people. You're right, other people's money!
As for the book, I don't have it with me right now. But I'll have it soon, again. Isn't what you want to know in the summaries? If it isn't, ask me again in a few days. As soon as I have the book back, I'll e-mail you what you want.
Lunch's ready.
See you in a while.

bath theory said...

Dear Kate
It is not too late to go back and answer the questions honestly and truthfully that were put to you in that police station. Whatever the consequences of your words you will be able to lead a life afterwards otherwise you will be a person who like now merely exists
It is never too late.

hope4truth said...

Hello

It is a shame Amaral does not sue the McCanns for trying to destroy his reputation...

Then maybe he will one day I bet there are a thousand questions his lawyers would want to ask him...

docmac said...

Oh dear!

Anyone seen the El Mundo interview with GA yesterday? He's still talking about an accident. I think he's being foxy ;-)

But then he goes on to give some more thoughts and says exactly what I have thought for the past year. That she was buried at the beach, later exhumed and moved in the Scenic. Also that the others in the group are lying. Now let's hear from Martin Smith again!

Ooh, here it comes!

docmac said...

BT

Are you not starting to get the feeling that Kate will eventually have to answer those questions after all?

bath theory said...

Indeed, that is the point isn't it Doc.

bath theory said...

If she doesn't she will without doubt spend the rest of her days on this planet just 'existing' in my opinion. If she confronts all this head on by telling the truth and the facts about that holiday from now on in she can at least move on, take any punishment she is due by the courts, and get on with 'living' a life.

Cláudia said...

Unfortunately, Doc and Bath theory, I think they will never answer any questions, unless thing go seriously downhill and they have to do it to avoid a worse situation.

Doc, do you have a link to the El Mundo interview? No problem if it is in Spanish.

bath theory said...

Can't Amaral approach a very rich Portugese person who WILL fund him in clearing his name and sue the pants off Clarence & G + K.

bath theory said...

Claudia can't Amaral approach a rich Portugese man/woman who will back him with funds to put them in their place.

Cláudia said...

Doc, sorry. I found it in Spanish and read it. Now tell me, is he not asking to be sued? The man is doing his best!

docmac said...

I don't have the link, still looking for it. It is being discussed here.

docmac said...

Oh, you found it :-)

docmac said...

I think Claudia is doing a little reading and hopefully a little translating BT :-)

Gotta go for a bit again.

Cláudia said...

Bath Theory, I don't think that is the problem. I don't know if Mr Amaral could get a rich banker or not. But I'm sure that if needed, he would have thousands donating to him in Portugal. When the book came out and His Pinkness started spreding his sue threats, there were many, many people commenting on Portuguese newspaper articles and saying that if it happened they would donate so he wouldn't have to spen a cent to defend hilself. The problem is that he would need to find a lawyer in the UK. A 'clean' one, I mean. Because he already tried and up until now he hasn't been successful. Two of the lawyers accepted the case but then, a few dyas later, backtracked.

Cláudia said...

Hi, Doc. Yes, I found it in Spanish. Or at least a summary of the interview because the full article can only be accessed by subscribers. I don't know any more about the interview than you do. So no translating at the moment. :-)

nancy said...

Hope -

And the list of their 'shortcomings' is only off the top of your head!

I'm sure we could add a whole lot more if we really tried!!

Your children are fortunate indeed to have such a loving caring mother as you constantly show yourself to be.


Nx

nancy said...

Gerry said:

"Sincerely, I don't know whether Madeleine is alive or not, or if someone hid her away. There is no evidence"!

So why are you and Kate constantly telling the world that a paedophile took her, and at the same time say there is no evidence. Of course, there was no evidence of an abduction in the apartment either was there?

Your constant denials that something bad has happened to Madeleine countered by the fact that you believe someone abducted her just doesn't make sense.

Are you saying then, Gerry, that Madeleine would be quite happy to be spirited away by someone and would just be giving them her tuppance worth?

Anonymous said...

Claudia,

Can GA sue them in a PT court?

BBL

bath theory said...

Here is the McCann files latest

The ex Director of the Criminal Investigation department of the Police in Portimao, Gonçalo Amaral, who head the team searching for Madeleine McCann, has given an interview in today's El Mundo newspaper.

'...The man who was sacked after making the parents suspects in the case claims that Gerry McCann hid Madeleine's body on the beach, and that the child died from an accident, claiming she could have fallen off the sofa... The ex Director of the Criminal Investigation department of the Police in Portimao, Gonçalo Amaral, who head the team searching for Madeleine McCann, has given an interview in today's El Mundo newspaper. The man who was sacked after making the parents suspects in the case claims that Gerry McCann hid Madeleine's body on the beach, and that the child died from an accident, claiming she could have fallen off the sofa...'

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id79.html

My advice to Mr Amaral, get an English lawyer and sue them. There must be a rich Portugese person who will back you.

Cláudia said...

Zodiac, I don't know. I think that even if possible, it would be very difficult.

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Anonymous said...

Claudia,

Thanks.

Having read the above from El Mundo. OMG! Only wish GA had also added fell due to being groggy from something. Er wonder what! They are full of sh** those two. Poor little lamb having them as parents.

BBL

docmac said...

Oops, ROB's initial statement is out now and it (predictably) contradicts earlier initial statements that have been released. Haven't seen two corroborating statements yet.

How the hell did they get to leave Portugal? Oh, hang on. Politicians and money! ROB, you are a LIAR, just like your mate.

nancy said...

Sky News headlines right now:

The parents of Madeleine McCann have spent £1M on looking for their daughter.

I think that word should have been 'wasted' rather than 'spent' because they knew that Metodo 3 were inexperienced in locating missing people, but they still went ahead with it. They wasted the hard earned money that people had generously donated to the Madeleine Fund!

I hope that GA manages to find himself a lawyer in the UK prepared to stick his neck out for him, but as I said before 'birds of a feather stick together', so I won't hold my breath! Just what does that say about our legal profession where they will back the worst low life criminal paedophile there is, and yet refuse to help an ex Portuguese policeman who is trying to help a little girl find justice!

bath theory said...

Is there a case for charging them re withholding information.

http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=41238&c=1

Di said...

Good afternoon everyone

Nancy

So they have spent £1M looking for Madeleine. Why announce this now? Could they be hoping the public will once again put their hands in their pockets or could it be the accounts are due out and the public will see the fund is empty. Remember M3 have denied receiving the amount of money stated, it was much less.

So where has the money gone? I don't think I need to tell you.

docmac said...

Anonymous said...

''viv said...
Well quite Claudia, that Eddie the Cadaver and nasty smells hunter just honed in on the McCanns' vehicle for one simple reason, he knew it was the one with the yummy rotting meat and dirty nappies in there and hey he loves those smells and he loves to work so just could not be arsed with any clean cars. He did not mind the rotting meat and dirty nappies had been clearead away. Just the smell was enough to make his whole body shake with excitement as it wafted under the door seal from Kate's seat.''

"Yeah, but there is only one problem with that clip which none of the pitchforkers seem able to spot.
The dog only alerted to the outside of the seal...when put INSIDE, on the other side of the seal, it sat and looked out of the window.

Funny how none of them mention that bit."


06 September 2008 14:25


Oh god, there's proof of how thick these people really are. Do you have SPEAKERS attached to your computer? Martin Grime said the dog had alerted to a smell emanating from the FAULTY DOOR SEAL. That dog was Eddie, the CADAVER DOG.

The next part (of a 150 minute video edited to just a few minutes) showed KEELA freezing in the boot of the same car. We were not shown EDDIE'S reaction in the same place.

Just shows how articles and videos edited by the staff of the pro McCann press can appeal to the small minds of the easily persuaded.

Pitchforkers indeed. Got a mirror?


You're going to get fired. You're not good enough. Next.

nancy said...

Hello Di -

Absolutely right!

They are obviously hoping for a couple of thousand little brown envelopes to arrive in the post.

They have a lot of explaining to do in my opinion.

I personally think that Kennedy was instrumental in getting them to use M3 - just why I don't know, unless he had financial dealings with them before.

I shouldn't be suprised to see him cough up a bit more now they are almost on the breadline!

docmac said...

Nancy

I'm still waiting for my one big white envelope, as promised by ST and a few of his flock. I'm still quaking with fear, I tell you :-))))

Just looked back. Meant to say smell from a door seal which was obviously faulty ;-) Common Renault problem.

docmac said...

"Clarence Mitchell: "They will not hesitate in taking legal action against Amaral if any passage requires it."

Still nothing.....

docmac said...

Going for a walk on the praia.

Hope the weather is treating you all well.

Anonymous said...

Did M3 not recently state their bill was £87,600. I suppose in mucca land £87,600 = £1 million just like, leaving 3 children then aged 3 and under in holiday flat 100mts (approx) away without any childcare whilst they wine and dine with their friends, and as a result one disappears = responsible parenting and insufficent evidence = exhonerated!

Di said...

Hi Doc

Enjoy your walk.

Di said...

Nancy/Zodiac

Let's hope the public are not so gullible this time round.

Sadly, there will always be a few who are and that is probably what they are banking on.

docmac said...

Oh, before I go:

Dillie, I have been instructed to ask you to you remove your children's names from the net because a Montel Williams (wtf is that?) fan said so. Apparently paedophiles can trace and murder your kids. I note she did not ask me to do the same. I guess that means she hopes paedophiles will trace my kids and kill them. Wouldn't put it past her, to be honest.


BTW, "Rosiepops". The fact that both my wife and I are more interested in enjoying this short life and the blessings that have been granted, rather than dwelling on mishaps that we have no control over has absolutely nothing to do with you. From both my wife and I, get lost you sad ****. And we BOTH mean it.

docmac said...

Thanks Di. I need it after the garbage I just read.

BBL

Anonymous said...

Docmac,

There is no cure for the insanely jealous. Even the spoonsfuls of meds/propaganda their Docs dish out to them daily will not cure them it only makes them dosey.

By the way I posted my kids names Keanu, Brad, Leonardo and Kylie-Danni. Hope they don't trace my kids.

BBL

Anonymous said...

'spoonful'

Di said...

Zodiac

LOL

BBL

Cláudia said...

Doc, that person may be acquainted with paedophiles therefore the obsession.

Cláudia said...

My Goddaughter is called Sara and my little cousin is João Pedro.

Di said...

Just before I go

Posted on 3A's by Alpine Aster






Expresso Interview with the McCann's (Part)

Q – Former inspector Gonçalo Amaral remains convinced of your involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance. Did you read ‘The Truth of the Lie’, the book that he wrote?
Kate and Gerry – No.
Kate – Why would I?
Gerry – I won’t learn anything from reading it.

Q – It was a success in Portugal.
Gerry – Was it? How many copies did it sell?

Q – Approximately 200 thousand. Next week, it is edited in Spain.
Gerry – That is what can be called illicit enrichment.

Q – Your English lawyers already have a translated copy and they are analyzing it. Do you intend to sue Gonçalo Amaral?
Gerry – At this moment we are focused on what we can do to find Madeleine and not in suing anyone.
Kate – All that I am going to say about this – because I’m not going to waste any time on Mr Amaral – is that as a professional and as a person his behaviour has been a disgrace.

Q – Aren’t you curious to know what the book says?
Kate – What for? It must be nothing but a load of rubbish. It is so secondary… It certainly won’t help to find our daughter. My consolation is that on the cover he calls her Maddie, the name that the media have invented. We never called her anything like that.

End

Not at this moment.... well that will be a first they want to sue every other person thats dare's to speak out against them...they wont even attempt it... they would have done it by now if they were going to attempt to sue GA......I bet Gerry has a translated copy by his bed...they have not read it yeah right.... just another lie in their web of lies.

Anonymous said...

'is that as a professional and as a person his behaviour has been a disgrace.'

What a hypocrite she is.

Probably not read the book themselves but the translations ah well IMO they probably know every word.

docmac said...

Zodiac

You know what the funniest thing is? Gerry McScum names his own kids on his blog and yet ST says this activity is 'illegal' and he's going to report such behaviour. Are paedophiles hunting Sean and Amelie too? Bullshit, man.

I suppose he's going to have to report Obama, Palin, Blair, Spears, Jackson, Jolie and countless thousands of others too. He's going to be really busy. And he is going to come up against some REALLY high-powered lawyers ;-)

What a poephol.

docmac said...

Claudia

You may be right. I had no qualms at all naming my kids. Do these people believe there are paedophiles around every corner? Thank god I don't live there now.

Cláudia said...

What the hell happened to the 'swift legal action'? Were they paying a guy to say the opposite of what they say? What is their problem with the concept of 'truth'?

Sean and Amelie have been used as paws by those two, parading them in front of the world's media, everytime they dumped them in the creche and everytime they took them home. I bet there is not one pervert in this world who is not familiar with those poor children. I don't see them worry.

Cláudia said...

Well, Doc, I honestly don't know. But some of them laugh when they remember the good old times when they forgot their children outside shops, others think leaving toddlers alone is responsible behaviour and others defend convicted child murderers. Can't say I would be surprised if some are acquainted with perverts.

Cláudia said...

"And if Madeleine had hurt herself inside the apartment – why would that be our fault?"

"We were not negligent, we did what any reasonable parent would do."

My God. Poor Madeleine. And poor, poor Sean and Amelie.

nancy said...

Di -

Gerry said -

"That's what can be called illicit enrichment"!

That's rich coming from him - that's all they've been doing since Maddie disappeared - making money from her name and spending it as fast as they make it!

They must be crazy if they think the public believe they haven't read his book. Even if by some remote chance they haven't, I'm sure CM has told them everything that's in it so they are not caught on the hop when asked questions such as that!!

JUSTICE FOR MADELEINE!

I wonder if they pay income tax on the huge sums they make from personal interviews on the media and in magazines. I think we would all be interested to know!

ICantThinkOfAName said...

When Kate said:

'is that as a professional and as a person his behaviour has been a disgrace.'

Was she thinking about Gerry??

LittleGreyCell said...

Ye gods,

Just had a look at what passes for social discourse on ST's site these days...what NASTY pieces of work some of those characters are.

Of course I'm familiar with how hard-faced many of those posters are, but having read some of the comments from Mum21 and her cronies with regards to Docmac's family tragedy, I confess I'm shocked.

I don't care if they're McCann family, friends, hired hands or bl**dy weirdos, there's absolutely no excuse for the kind of remarks they see fit to come out with relating to human beings grieving.

This has changed something for me now. I no longer have any sympathy whatsoever for the thought of McCann family members being caught up in this horrific mess not of their making if they're the sort of people who sanction comments like those I've just read.

Wish I was religious at times like this. Suffice it to say I believe in karma, and won't that be funny when it comes around and kicks them in the butt for their cold, twisted, self-serving attitudes.

Sorry folks. Just had to get that off my chest. Happy Saturday evening.

LGC

Di said...

We just managed to get a BBQ in before the heavens opened.

Q – Former inspector Gonçalo Amaral remains convinced of your involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance. Did you read ‘The Truth of the Lie’, the book that he wrote?
Kate and Gerry – No.
Kate – Why would I?
Gerry – I won’t learn anything from reading it.

Gerry why would that be, if my child was missing supposedly with a bunch of paedos as you state I would be going through that book looking for the tiniest of clues, but no you say you won't learn anything, well of course you won't, because you already know what is in the book..

THE TRUTH!!

nancy said...

Docmac -

The infamous Supertroll -

Is it male or female?

Have no fear, he will have a long way to go to carry out his empty threats so just blow a few raspberries to sweeten the bitter alloes that he takes to start the day off!

Just say - "Am I bovvered"!!!

Anonymous said...

'You know what the funniest thing is? Gerry McScum names his own kids on his blog and yet ST says this activity is 'illegal' and he's going to report such behaviour. Are paedophiles hunting Sean and Amelie too? Bullshit, man'.

Docmac,

IMO, I do not think that paedophiles even new who M until she vanished into thin air. Yet the siblings are plastered all over the Media/Press and on their parents blog. They certainly put child safety as usual at the top of their list, eh! They did not even bother to remove or cover up the name of their house in Rothley upon eturn from PT, it was there for every Tom, Dick or Harry to see and trace them and their remaining children to their home.

Anonymous said...

'who M was' FFS 'return'

nancy said...

LGC -

You said it!

A real witches' cavern and no mistake!

Hubble, bubble, toil and trouble!!

There they go on their broomsticks!

How do they sleep at night!

A good Saturday evening to you too LGC and anyone else on now.

I'm off for a knees up myself in a local hotel - I might even have a glass or two of something potent!


Nx

Di said...

Doc

Give yourself a break don't go there. Take time out.

LGC

Lovely to see you again.

Wise words as always..

Off for a while

BBL

Di said...

Nancy

Enjoy your evening.

LittleGreyCell said...

Nancy and Di,

Have a jolly evening! I'm off to a party in Brighton...

Cheers!

X LGC

Anonymous said...

Nancy,

'Is it male or female?'

I think that possibly depends on which time of day it is posting. Perhaps 4 am it might be female and at another time it might be male.

As for the siblings and publicity. Why did they go from having them in a double buggy under that whacko cover in blistering heat to being plastered all over the Media/Press. The most sickening publicity pic for me is the Punch and Judy one. Poor M if she saw that. You can really feel and see the pain of the parents who say their eldest child has been abducted by a peado ring in that one, not!

Anonymous said...

Goodnight all,

Enjoy your evening.

docmac said...

LGC

Quite a drive (for that part of the world). Be safe.

Di, Nancy, Zodiac cheers.

Hi ICTOAN.

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Hi Doc

I hope LGC realises how cold the wind is blowing off the sea onto the Sussex coast. Its more like February than early September.

docmac said...

I said I rinsed through some holiday curtains because they smelled of smoke and carcinogens do not just come from smoke discharged from smoking, they actually gather on furniture and soft furnishings too and I do not know about you but I am particular what I allow children to inhale.

Put the dining table, beds and all the lounge furniture through the wash too then? Isn't that just a bit paranoid? Don't you live in the south-east anymore? The air there is pretty carcinogenic I hear. Would you care to name some other sources of airborne carcinogens?

docmac said...

Hi ICTOAN

I hear it is not that warm at the moment. Move to Spain :-)

16 days to fire engine time!

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Doc

I would rather be back in the Midi of France.

I hope the anticipation and excitement is mounting (for you I mean as its a surprise for him).

docmac said...

ICTOAN

I can't wait! And I'm not even the parent who will be going along :-)

I've just counted the tenders that have been left in the 'station' on the floor under my desk. 17.

docmac said...

Oh sorry, France.

Yes, you loved it there. Languedoc was it? Go back my cyber friend. GB is no more.

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Doc

If I win the National Lottery tonight I will book my journey tomorrow.

docmac said...

Holding thumbs for you :-))

docmac said...

Why is it that whilst most of my posts get copied to the other side, my post about why I don't believe it was an accident was ignored? Hmmm?

docmac said...

BBFN

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Thank You!

BTW I told you before about my grandfather. He always said to my father that he thought SA was the most beautiful country he had ever visited. I wonder if 100 years has altered it very much. I guess it is large enough to cope with urbanisation in a way that the UK can't.

bath theory said...

So the bloke whose eldest child vanishes into thin air and becomes the most discussed news story around the planet in 2007 tells the world he has not read the book by the police chief in charge of the investigation to find the child.

Well we know now that they couldn't be bothered to search for her that first night and now we are meant to think there is no reason for them to read the book.

WELL there would only be one reason for both actions - They know what has happened to her already.

ICantThinkOfAName said...

BT

I read Doc's scenario some time ago and reading between the lines you have come to the same conclusion.

I should have thought in Gerry's position he would have been curious to see if GA had sussed out the truth.

docmac said...

Mum21 said...

I notice docmac has spent his usual saturday afternoon enjoying his kids (not).

Unless of course their names are "Internet" and "Blogger".
I notice he also loves the word "Cu-t"...perhaps that is his wifes name.(very fitting)


06 September 2008 17:28

Here you go, Bum:

My eldest is studying law not that far from you :-(((((
My second eldest is currently in Thailand :-)))))
My third eldest flew to Bloem today to play a rugby match :-)))))
My youngest spent the day with his mum, aunt, grandma and a friend at our beach house.
I got some important work done.
Apparently everyone else had a whale of a time.
What a "cu-t" I am, hey?

PS, my wife's name is Melony. My kids' names are Nicholas, Lesley, Neil and Callum. Sue me.

dylan said...

OMG! Please, please don't tell me spiteful things were said about Docmac's loss?? LGC, I'm sorry I've missed you again. I've not been back to that dark side since they decided to pick on me but this really does stink of evil, twisted minds. I don't think I want to know what they said so I'll take your word for it and I hope to god they don't have any children of their own as I dread to think how they are being brought up.

Docmac, re the carcinogens and curtains post, looool! Don't know who the author is but it's obviously never heard of particulates, pesticides, PCBs, toxins (in just about everything in the food chain), heavy metals and if it lives on top of a granite intrusion, Radon gas! Wonder if it feeds its kids on foods containing hydrogenated fats too?? Maybe it should take itself and its kids somewhere very far away and free from pollution, like erm...some other galaxy?

Bye Zodiac and hi & bye to everyone else. I don't think I've stopped today and I'm shattered. Off to watch some rubbish telly :-)

Nite
xx

docmac said...

ICTOAN

SA is five times the size of the UK with half the population. There is so much open space here you would not believe it. The rest is populated by animals that might eat you though!

Only kidding about the eating bit ;-) But the open space is something we would never be able to give up. I feel an attachment to my roots in Scotland, but this place would be very hard to leave! Your grandfather may well have been correct.

docmac said...

Night Dyl

You know who it was :-)))

docmac said...

BT

He's still getting through all those other 'police' books. The man has a part time job and a demanding wife. Give him a break!

docmac said...

Rosiepops said...

''viv said...
Well quite Claudia, that Eddie the Cadaver and nasty smells hunter just honed in on the McCanns' vehicle for one simple reason, he knew it was the one with the yummy rotting meat and dirty nappies in there and hey he loves those smells and he loves to work so just could not be arsed with any clean cars. He did not mind the rotting meat and dirty nappies had been clearead away. Just the smell was enough to make his whole body shake with excitement as it wafted under the door seal from Kate's seat.''

Again Vile shows us what a sharp legal brain she has (not).

It is Keela that shakes with excitement and she is a bitch. (A bit like Viv.)

Viv appears to have her dogs mixed up, not for the first time either, she has done this somewhere else recently.


06 September 2008 17:25

Ahem!!! Watched the video? Come on, we all know why you and Gezza are on this tack. Trying to get the attention away from the cadaver dog, eh?

Dogs 2 : MCs 0

docmac said...

Off to do something that Bum and chums would find completely revolting.

docmac said...

Oh god, Bum was looking over my shoulder whilst I attended to the call of nature.

Hey, Bum!!!

I work part-time now!! I bring some work home!! You get it!! It's almost like being a kak poet!! Turn that hearing aid up!!

docmac said...

Oh, cleared the room again.

Well I'm not afraid. Gerry tell your wife to tell the truth. And while she's about it why don't you do the same?

Call me.

Cláudia said...

"I hope to god they don't have any children of their own as I dread to think how they are being brought up."

Dylan, some of them do. But only because they are lucky and nothing happened while they forgot their kids outside shops. As long as all the grocery shopping is done, no problem.

Cláudia said...

Wow, Doc, it seems you had some fun while I was having some fun!:-)
I always miss the parties here! ;-)

Cláudia said...

Eddie and Kella have more intelligence in their poo than the 'forgot my children outside a shop but brought all my groceries home' brigade combined.

docmac said...

+ bum.

hope4truth said...

Hello Doc and Claudia

I posted on here last week that my Dad's Mother left him outside a shop as people parked pram's outside all the time in the 40s...

What I forgot to add was she was an evil bitch who was spiteful and treated her children like dirt all of their lives...

Luckily for me My Dad met my Mum when he was 17 and her family gave him the love that he had missed out on growing up making him one of the best Dad's in the world. I wont say the best because my Grandad and my Husband were and are pretty fantastic Dad's and one thing our family has never been short of is love...

And while we are on the subject of love I went over to Trolls and read one of the anti madeleine gang saying that Doc's wife had only lost a few cells and the McCanns lost a child how do they feel??? Well judging by their attitude refusal to help search for her or answer questions covering their backs the neglect and lack of care they put their children through and on what would have been Madeleines 4th Birthday grinning like they had won the lottery they are beneath contempt. When I lost the few cells that was supposed to be my first Baby although I was not dramatic and accepted it I loved those few cells with all my heart and when I realised what was happening would have stood on my head for the next 6 months if it gave my baby a chance of life..

docmac said...

lol, Mr plastic pistol wannabe doctor man. There are lots of people on here who know who I am, saddo. If Dylan wanted my e-mail I would gladly supply it through Viv. Or should I beg for hers over and again like like you do?

PS - Would you mind me publishing your answers to the Ass's questionnaire wherein you expressed that your dream was to be a doctor? HMMMMM? WHO'S REALLY ENVIOUS? HMMMMM?

Cláudia said...

Hope, these people would be more careful and protective about their mobiles than about their children. These people don't understand that many so called normal parents would rather put a bullet to their brains than having to live with the fact that something happened to their daughter (who is still missing) because they weren't there, as they were eating, drinking and having fun with friends. These people treat children like objects they put away and dump anywhere when they are tired of them.

bath theory said...

I imagine a room with the walls closing in like you see in a film. A couple are in the middle and they have propped a stick bewteen the walls to try and stop the walls closing in further. Everything they try is to no avail as the walls keep closing in on them.

The question is will they press the big red button that says TRUTH and get themselves out of the predicament or will they allow the walls to close in on them and crush them completely. One thing is for sure the walls will continue to close in on them.

No one knows what the couple will do but it is believed the man is currently sitting on the floor of the room reading a book written by a portugese guy with a law degree and some old police manuals from his homeland.

Will the big red button be hit?

Cláudia said...

Doc, I have no idea what you're talking about, but yeah, go ahead and post it. I'm not sleepy yet! :-)

docmac said...

Hi Hope

We both lost a child naturally. They did not. I am very sorry for your loss. I am sick of hearing about theirs.

Cláudia said...

Bath Theory, never.
Unless someone hits it for them.

hope4truth said...

Claudia

I think the way every child was treated on that holida was discusting and every one of them should hang their heads in shame. Any normal person would be telling the world that they thought it was safe but were so wrong and begging anyone else who even thought about it not to be so stupid...

Madeleine is missing and if that is all she is it is because her parents were not where they should have been... If they are being protected the people doing so must be banging their heads against a wall as everytime they start to speak or spin they look the more their story looks flakey...

bath theory said...

Now my wife has given me a wink and it is Saturday night. the kids are asleep and thus I am off to enjoy a cuddle and kiss. Take care all.

Cláudia said...

Hope, this has stopped being about a missing little girl for a long time. Since the £s came into action.

hope4truth said...

Doc

It is heartbraking what happend to Madeleine I belive she died in the apartment and that is sad beyond words....

If she had been taken can you imagine how she would feel with not a word spoken to her by her parents and god forbid she saw any of the interviews or happy snaps it would break her little heart even more...

bath theory said...

Apparently there were 3 people in the room initially but one managed to wriggle out of the room by tricking them he was going to help them but he spent his time stitching them up and doing the opposite of what he should have. One morning they woke up and he had gone. Since then the walls have got much closer.

Cláudia said...

Doc, LOL
Where the hell did you find that? I spend too much time on the computer but working. Have to improve my investigative skills! LOL

hope4truth said...

Claudia

Yes sadly money is the route of all evil...

Off to bed see you all tomorrow xxx

bath theory said...

Claudia, we must remember my wife is a latin and as such she has the sort of needs a swinger does. However, fortunate for me she is faithful and adventurous. Now off to smell nice , where is my Izzy Myake

docmac said...

Nite BT

Sent mail earlier.

Hope

I believe she died in the apartment too. And not by accident.

bath theory said...

Cheers Doc, Hope & Claudia. Goodnight all.

I believe she died in the apartment and have done since they first appeared to talk to the press with a script and not a heart felt message. Very bad body language from the start too.

As I said I would rather have Eddie and Keela babysit my children than these two.

docmac said...

I agree, BT.

Now go and sleep :-)

Cláudia said...

1. What’s your core value in life?
Kindness, honesty, loyalty

LOLOL I agree about the loyalty...

2. What turns you on the most?
A man who can cook seafood

What a sad life LOL

5. Your favourite sound?

The sound of the sea
I suspected it wouldn't be the sound of Eddie barking.

6. Worst feeling in the world?
Champagne hangover

WHAT? A hangover? Social services! NOW!

7. Future child's name?
I'm not planning to have anymore but I like Stella or Mick

If the thing is getting pregnant (yikes!) call the police immediately. The thing is naming its unborn children online. I bet there is a bunch of paedophiles waiting for the thing to breed.

8. Favourite colour?
Red

Yellow and green, most likely.

9. What is most important in your life?
My children

Especially if they are in the creche. Or home. Alone. Far away. People have to eat.

10. What is your favourite food?
most seafood

Not Tapas? Once again, away from the kids.

12. What type was your first car?
Renault twingo

Not a good choice. Little space. A Scenic is much better.

13. What’s in the boot of your car?
My rollerblades and sainsbury's reusable bags

Sure it's not rotten meat and dirty nappies?

14. If you could have any job you wanted what would it be?
A doctor

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

17. Your favourite movie?
Gilda

Sure it's not 'The Hand That Rocks the Cradle?'

18. What’s under your bed?
My cat, she loves sleeping there

What about the skeletons? Oh, in the closet.

19. What is your favourite sport to watch?
Tennis

Very popular sport among Tapas lovers. Good choice.

20. Build a house anywhere where would it be?
Next to the the mediterranean sea

What about Praia da Luz?

21. Beach, mountains, city?
City

As long as it's far away from swarthy, suspicious people and bundlemen who take little children from their parents but then treat them like the little princesses that they are.

24. What’s most important, strong in mind or strong in body?
mind

Makes it easier to hide the skeletons.

25. What makes you really angry?
Bullying, injustice

Oh, and people who think leaving toddlers home alone is irresponsible behaviour. Hate those.

26. Do you believe in the afterlife?
Yes

I certainly hope you do.

27. If you could have one super power, what would it be?
Healing

Or making Amaral disappear. Or making it as easy to shut him up as controlling the UK media. That would be nice.

29. Can you juggle?
not to save my life...

Yeah, some things are difficult to handle. And most of the times gravity makes them fall. Hard.

30. What is your favourite cartoon?
South Park

And also a special affection for Chucky.

Cláudia said...

Hope, sleep well.

Bath Theory, don't dare to sleep. :-)

Doc, LOL

docmac said...

mark55 said...

docmac said...
Hi Hope

We both lost a child naturally. They did not. I am very sorry for your loss. I am sick of hearing about theirs.

Saturday, 6 September 2008 22:39:00 o'clock BST

Hi notdoc , just to remind you , you lost two children .How quickly you have forgotten .Absoluteley incredible how you doctors cope with grief .Having said that you said it was a very early loss that didn't resemble a baby in any way . Careful , because some might think you are a pathetic liar .


06 September 2008 22:52

Thanks , boet . Was not looking for extra sympathy for losing two . But as you so rightly say , isn 't it amazing how doctors cope with grief ? And as you so rightly say again , some might call them pathetic liars .

I have added the extra spacing before punctuation marks so as not to make you uncomfortable or dizzy . Want to talk ?

docmac said...

Claudai, naughty ;-)

Cláudia said...

Doc, ;-)

Cláudia said...

Doc, in my opinion Gina is the worst kind of person. Honestly. Maybe not within but in terms of her stance in life. I would rather deal with people with integrity (even if I do not agree with them) than dealing with people like that. Those are the people who sell themselves very easily. There is a saying in Portugal that would translate more or less as 'It's not possible to work for God and for the devil at the same time'. Quite interestingly,that is the way almost all (not to say all) politicians behave. They sell themselves to the highest bidder. I call them moral whores.

Cláudia said...

P.S: Of course I don't mean she is worse than the ones who find neglect normal and who defend convicted child murderers. What I meant was that amongst the 'normal' people I don't like, moral whores are the ones I dislike the most. Because they are the kind of person one can never trust.

docmac said...

Someone who does not post much is on the warpath!

mark55 said...

Docmac said

My eldest is studying law not that far from you :-(((((
My second eldest is currently in Thailand :-)))))
My third eldest flew to Bloem today to play a rugby match :-)))))
My youngest spent the day with his mum, aunt, grandma and a friend at our beach house.

Notdoc , has it not occurred to you that your children are trying to get as far away from you as possible ?

06 September 2008 23:23


Does my situation as a parent of four well-adjusted children aged 23, 19, 14 and 4 sound quite normal to any other parent who has no hang-ups or personality disorders?

Cláudia said...

Doc, if you have ever forgotten any of them anywhere, then I think can be considered a reasonable, responsible parent according to their rules.

Cláudia said...

Doc, most of those people are too arrogant to realise there is a world outside their cages. Anyone defending irresponsible, neglectful parents is as bad as they are. As for the ones defending convicted child murderers, well I better breathe deeply or my blood pressure may rise above 100/60. :-)

dylan said...

Oh my! The dark side has been busy tonight hasn't it?? I thought I felt some rumbles in the fabric of the light side :-))))

Claudia, I love your phrase "moral whore"! I will make a concerted effort to incorporate it wherever appropriate from now on - great! You're a gem!

Hope, my sympathies and support for what you say. I had a miscarriage 2 1/2 years ago and it feels very much like a loss, irrespective of where you are in your pregnancy. I'm sure it's the same for the partner who not only feels his own grief but the greif on behalf of his wife too. The kindest comment I could make about what bum said would be to say it was insensitve. What I'd like to say would not be printable.

Docmac, I'd like your email address from Viv, please. There, see! You didn't have to beg & neither did I!!

xx

Cláudia said...

Doc, these people are beyond any help, my friend. Just like the gods they adore.
Bed is calling.
Sleep well, all.
Dorme bem, querido Doc.
Beijinhos.

Cláudia said...

Dylan, always here to make you smile! :-)
Sleep well.
xxxx

dylan said...

Goodnight Claudia,

Sleep well too. xx

docmac said...

Dyl, just ask Viv for my gmail address. No problem.

Goodnight all.

dylan said...

Cheers Docmac, have asked/begged Viv!

I can now see what Poops gets off on. No wonder sex is a taboo subject over on Troll's. Wouldn't want to be chucked in their cellars on a dark night I can tell you - chains, leather, pvc, thumbscrews, whips and electric shock treatment for anybody who dares to say the McCanns were negligent! (shivers), I'll have nightmares now.

Goodnight all.

xx

Unknown said...

Can I just remind people this site is about justice for Madeleine and I do not want abusive language used. I have removed some posts.

Viv

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