5 Nov 2008

Child Abusers - You Can Run...But You Can't Hide....


Even as little as 5 years ago, he might just have gotten away with it - a high-ranking official, in a Government where corruption is said to be rife.

The "man" (for want of a better word) in question gets into an altercation with an 11-year-old girl in a restaurant. He then reportedly follows her into the toilet and grabs her by the neck, but she manages to wriggle free and runs back to her parents.

Her father, understandably, is upset, and retaliates on the man who assaulted his daughter. The man, an important public official, tries to buy off the family and offers the father money, with the response,

"Yes I did it, so what? How much do you want, just tell me. I'll give you the money. Do you know who I am? I am from the Ministry of Transport. I rank with the Mayor of your city. So what if I grabbed the neck of a small child? You people count for ****!"

This astonishing scene took place yesterday in Shenzen, China; a country often criticized for it's "closed shop" secrecy, corrupt politicians and human rights abuses.

But thanks to the Internet, ordinary citizens are fighting back. Only hours after the CCTV images were posted on YouTube, angry internet viewers had soon tracked down and named the aggressor, who has since been fired from his job - the reason being that "[his] wild words and behaviour have had an extremely negative impact on society".

Thanks to the wonders of the Internet, it is now no longer possible to hide one's misdemeanours behind the facade of middle-classness, wealth, education or political power. And this is especially true when it comes to the abuse or maltreatment of children.

Because now the whole world can watch - and question. And keep on questioning, until there are answers.

And hopefully make a difference.

Justice for Madeleine - and all neglected and abused children, everywhere.

367 comments:

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dylan said...

Hi guys,

Thank you for the thread, whoever put it up.

This part: " I rank with the Mayor of your city. So what if I grabbed the neck of a small child? You people count for ****!"

....makes my blood boil! Thank goodness that ordinary, decent ****'s DO count for something and it's very encouraging that the masses have a voice. This idiot not only deserved to lose his job but should be fined and/or imprisoned for his assault. That should teach him some contrition but at least he has learned that he is not above the law. Pity the gruesome twosome haven't learned that also!

xx

Cláudia said...

Thank you, Rat, for this thread.
Blood boiling indeed.

dylan said...

Ooops! Sorry Rat, your name was clearly indicated below the article - doh! :-)

Hi Claudia, thanks for showing me up for poor observational skills ;-)

xx

Cláudia said...

Dylan, that was not my intention! :-)
Hope you're ok!!!
xxxx

Cláudia said...

Dylan, if you ever want to contact me, do it at my blog address:
claudiaproudofthepj@hotmail.com
xxxx

dylan said...

Claudia, I was kidding :-)))

Busy day today but I sure will mail you shortly, meant to early on in the week - I am easily distracted ;-) I am fine in the grand scheme of things, thank you, but I still have an uphill battle which I'll let you know about when I can. xxx

Have a good day everybody. xx

nancy said...

Rat -

Nice to see you.

Thanks for the new thread, the contents of which make you despair for the human race. You are right, you can run but you can't hide from your sins, although I must say, the McCanns and their pals seem to be doing a good job of it these days and the media are certainly making it easy for them all.

By the way Rat, have you given up as a moderator on the 3A's?

Nx

Cláudia said...

Dylan, have a great day! :-)
xxxxx

nancy said...

Dylan -

I don't want to seem to butt into your post where it is obvious you are going through a bad patch.

I just want to say that I am sure I speak for all of us on this forum when I say we wish you a quick assent to the top from that uphill struggle, and that you are not alone!


Nx

docmac said...

What an horrific experience for the young girl, Rat. Sadly, however, some would say the actions of the official were within the bounds of acceptable officiating.

Nancy, I second what you posted to Dylan.

Cláudia said...

Hi, Doc! :-)
Have a good afternoon!

docmac said...

Hi Claudia

You too!

docmac said...

Obama was elected in part on the back of very strong support from young women. Now all those women are reportedly shaving their pubic hair. Their message? Read our lips. No more bush :-))

nancy said...

Docmac and Claudia and whoever else is around.

Big L has come up with a good thread on the 3A's. (25308)

"I never thought I'd see the day"

Well worth a read and I think it will go on for some time!

Docmac - how did the fireworks display go?

nancy said...

Docmac -

Now that was both outrageous and very funny!

docmac said...

Nancy

I read that thread and will do so again later. Fireworks were great! There are only four sites in CT where fireworks may be set off by the public. The one we went to was on Table View beach just down the road. It was PACKED! Had to leave at around 10 with the young'un getting tired, but then watched the 'big guns' across the bay at the Waterfront from my porch later.

Cláudia said...

Doc, ROTFLMAO!

Cláudia said...

Can someone please tell ST to open up the shit hole again? Since it is behind closed doors I had to put up with comments from Gina on my blog (unpublished, of course) because she must be feeling really lonely. Please, can someone with an open blog or forum take Gina? Thank you.

docmac said...

I don't mind Gina, Claudia. It's just her inability to make up her mind that I can't handle. I mean it's been 18 months..

dylan said...

Docmac and Nancy, thank you so much.

Claudia, you have mail (a very long one!) and some photos :-))

Off for the day now. Couldn't open paint tin as I'm a bit puny in the tin-opening department so I'm going to uni after lunch.

xx

Cláudia said...

Doc, I really don't care about her opinion on the McCann case. What makes me despise her is the fact that she trashed the pros when she posted here and she trashed most of us when posting on ST. I will never forget that she was one of the people who attacked you the most there.

Dylan, I have two essays to correct and then I'll read you e-mail and reply to it.

nancy said...

Docmac -

Very sensible - just four sites, which I'm sure prevents many accidents, especially to kids.

In Spain fireworks are a continuous occurrence with all the many saints days giving a good excuse for a display - some are organised but lots aren't. The weird thing is, idiots quite often let them off during the day which completely defeats the object and is terrifying for the animals and birds!

However, I'm still a kid at heart and enjoy watching the night time displays bursting into the milky way from our upstairs terrace.

Zodiac said...

Hi all,

ROTB thanks for new thread.

So what?

Now were those not the words that dribbled out of CM's mouth regarding the possibility of KM having changed her clothes and that there could be pictures to prove it. You know the case where her little child of 3 disappeared into thin air as a result of her and her husband choosing to leave their 3 year old child in a holiday apt with her 2 year old siblings without any responsible supervision. The same child that Goncalo Amaral has written his book about. The sneer picture of KM certainly depicts, imo, so what! The so what, move on sneer she used when describing how she left her child crying and then did it again. Those words CM used proved for me that the mouth is dirtier and has more germs than the rectum!

Docmac,

Tut, tut and LOL!


Dylan,

Thinking of you and sending an e-hug. Keep well. x

docmac said...

Claudia

That's just my point. She goes with the flow wherever she posts.

Nancy

The fireworks in Spain are crazy! Letting off fireworks on any other day of the year here without a permit is an arrestable offence enforced not only by the police but by the SPCA too.

Cláudia said...

Doc, she must be really lonely. I already have 7 unpublished posts by her on my blog. ST, please, please, open your shit hole gain and entertain her.

docmac said...

So why don't you just publish them? Or are they completely inasppropriate?

docmac said...

Oh, my left pinkie has grown so big :-))) Inasppropriately big :-)

docmac said...

Hello Zodiac. Missed you there.

Cláudia said...

Doc, they are just damn boring.
And the cleaning tip lady asked for them not to be published (certainly hoping I would!) :-)))
I'm just hoping and praying she just goes away. Took twice as long to correct the two damn essays because of her. Damn it! :-)

Cláudia said...

Doc, the sad woman now thinks I did not forward you her pathetic speech. Do you think she would like to read your yesterday's reply and the following e-mails we exchanged? ;-)
I don't think it could get any more boring. ST's must be dead. I would ressuscitate it with my own hands if that meant she would go away! :-) E-mailing you soon.

docmac said...

Oh, you did send me the first one.

Jeepers, just read that Sarah Palin could not name the countries that constitute North America. Even worse, she didn't know that Africa is a CONTINENT! The pro-lifer who shoots animals for fun. Would anyone want her finger hovering above the 'nucular' button? Wow!! I never realised there was a female Bush.

Cláudia said...

Doc, what a relief she is far from power. Another Bush in skirts? Thanks but no thanks. :-)

ratonthebeam said...

Evening, all! Hope you are all well and happy, and moving onwards and upwards :)

I haven't been doing much posting or modding lately for a variety of (personal) reasons, but I can assure you all that I most certainly have not been "silenced". Nor have I been Carter-Rucked, head-hunted by Mossad, sacked by Team McCann or the FOI or had a Fatwah stuck on my head.

I may have been "named" but I have definitely not been "shamed". (That only works if you have done stuff to be ashamed of, which I have not. I stand by everything I have ever written, unless specifically retracted.)

My opinions are still the same as ever. The McCanns and their cronies are all as guilty as sin. I hope Maddie haunts them all until the ends of eternity. Their money will bring them no happiness. Blood money never does.

I am not going to go away and shut up and I am not going to stop asking questions, at least until I get sensible answers, which I don't think will happen anytime soon.

I particularly liked the story of the Chinese official because it proves that there IS natural justice for children and that although it may be postponed, it can NEVER be avoided. Only five years ago before the popularity of the Internet, the McCanns, Clarence and this stinking, corrupt Government would have got away with their lies and rubbish. Not now. Too many people can see right through them, and are asking too many awkward questions, and it is not just going to go away.

Why do you think Gerry hasn't been treating us to his blog lately? I think it's because it has come back to bite him, big time. The problem with a tissue of lies is that when you hold tissue up to the light of public scrutiny, it becomes transparent. Pompous officials like the Chinese guy, Clarence and Gerry, haven't quite "got it" yet.

Their time will come. The mills of G-d grind slowly. But they grind exceedingly small.

nancy said...

Great post Rat

They may be as silent as the lambs right now but they must be living on their nerves knowing that someone, somewhere, may blow the whistle one of these days and explode their mythical statements sky high!

We can live in hope, but not necessarily die in despair!


There has to be Justice for Madeleine.

docmac said...

The Madeleine Foundation's communication and questions to Smethurst, McCann, Caplan, Mitchell and the HTFM lawyers as posted by Anthony Bennett on 3a.

BBL.

Cláudia said...

Hi, Rat. Great post!
Hi, Doc.

I know that Mr Bennett is a controversial person from what I can gather. But he cannot be accused of being easily intimidated, can he?

Di said...

Hi All

Rat.. Great post and good to see you again.

I do hope their time will come and I am prepared to wait for as long as it takes.

I was mortified today whilst speaking to an old friend, I brought up the McCann case. The reply was "well it is over isn't it, the parents are innocent, the papers said so"?

I don't think you need to know my reply, I promised her I would e-mail all that I know, to which she was grateful. Whether she takes any notice of it though I can't say.

Here in lies the problem, the real news is not getting out there. What can we do?

Di said...

Oh Dear

Here we go again.

Posted by Badboy on 3A's..

What is it about where I live!!


David Beckham who made an appeal used to live here, as well as several other manchester footballers.

Emerson Group, who own Boavista golf resort are based here.

Bluemantle are also based in the area.

Nearby in the same area are Astrazeneca, as well as bk's companies.

We are also the Champagne swilling area of the UK.. Sooooo Whaaaat.

Off to watch some tv whilst downing a glass or two of bubbly, will try to look back in if I can see straight. LOL...

docmac said...

Claudia

He is no shrinking violet, that's for sure.

Enjoy the bubbly, Di :-)

bath theory said...

Doc
Re your 'Hollywood' waxing post.

It reminded me of a laugh I had a few years ago. After the biggest demo in British History where around 700,000 people in London basically said we don't want to go to war in Iraq our Prime Minister did jack sh*te and ignored the public's polite statement about not wishing to bomb,maim and destroy innocent citizens 4,000 miles away from our homeland - very reasonable me thinks. Blair like Brown does now didn't give a frig for the people who are manipulated to fight for their country. His heavy heart was as heavy as the McCann's me thinks. Furthermore, all this heroes stuff gets right up my goat. Talk about heroes and talk about courage but also talk about disfigurement and a life of mental torture as well. Put it in balance please but they don't do they. Join the army and see the world they tell you. BUT they dont tell you JOIN THE ARMY AND SEE THE WORLD AND LEARN HOW TO KILL PEOPLE PROPERLY AT THE SAME TIME - not good PR someone who enjoys the dark arts would say.

Anyway Doc, similar huge demos took place in the US as you know. My wife and I were laying in bed when we caught one of the banners and just roared with laughter. It summed up the pathetic way our countries rulers CHOOSE to dismiss the fact that it is us who puts them there and it is us - NOT big business cronies - who it should be representing first and last. The female US protestor held a banner simply stating... 'The only bush I trust is my own'

These control freaks who rise to such power have to play the game to get there and then they become part of it and change. Control, dark arts and manipulation. They cling to power and the very thought of taking responsibility for actions is merely alien to them. No wonder the head of the COI and the Prime Minister befriended the McCann's. Some may argue a natural fit occured. How could they see what the mass of the public sees. They view the world as a board to be played. This Chinese offcial represents the mentality of those who feel above others. They made a mistake and now like the vast majority in power they won't budge as they sit on the side of the fence where secrets are neatly boxed away. The truth is better hidden if it makes me look bad. The facts are better left unturned if I am going to be dragged into this.

If the Metadohead agency can say Madeleine will be home by Xmas 2007and be proved the liers they were then I can say one of these central figures will crack by Xmas 2011 and the spirit of a 3yr old's soul will be unshackled.

I hope the monsters who did this live a very long life - behind bars.

docmac said...

Politicians are public SERVANTS, BT. Just try reminding them of this though. Snout, trough, second home, expenses, pension. That's all they really give a shit about really. That banner was funny!

Cláudia said...

Doc, I always tend to like people who aren't easily intimidated. Even if I don't agree with them.

docmac said...

Simple as that...

by vee8 Today at 12:52 pm
Without Prejudice


I will go one step further, and nail my colours to the mast here. We do not know for certain if Madeleine is now dead or alive. But, given what we DO know, I can state with certainty, that she did NOT die in the appartment. Anyone who believe she did is a complete and utter fool. No 'Probably,' no 'Maybe,' She DID NOT die in the appartment. That is a statement, not based on my support for the McCann's, not based on heartfelt sympathy, or any sense of loyalty, intuition or feelings. It is simple, cold, logical common sense. It did not happen, it COULD not have happened, simple as that. I suggest bennett and his followers deal with it, before the McCann's lawyers deal with them.

(I do not use a capital letter for his surname, as that would be a mark of respect which the ex-solicitor does not deserve.)



This is the same guy who said Maddie is a direct descendent of Jesus and Mary Magdalene! Just a little loopy if you ask me.

Cláudia said...

Doc, LOL
I know we shouldn't laugh at the mentally disturbed, but how can one resist?

ratonthebeam said...

But, given what we DO know, I can state with certainty, that she did NOT die in the appartment.

Sounds like vee8 was actually there.

WHO is vee8????????

Cláudia said...

Rat, I think he has got other nicks but I believe he is called Nigel something. I may be mistaken. Doc knows, I believe.

docmac said...

Nigel Nessling, Rat. Totally bonkers IMO.

Anyone else seen that they are prefacing their posts with 'without prejudice' now? LOL!

Cláudia said...

They are, Doc?
Why is that? :-)

docmac said...

Pretty accurate assessment" I'd say. I see this lady has been harassed and her family threatened and she has said she will be deleting her blog. How typical of the pros. That sexual infant Muldoon has been busy there too.

docmac said...

Because they don't have ST to take the fall for them any longer :-))

Cláudia said...

Doc, yeah, ST was a good way for them to publish anonymously what they did not have the guts to say elsewhere and under their names.

docmac said...

Tired. Off now. Goodnight / boa noite.

Cláudia said...

I also need to catch up on my sleep. I have a busy day tomorrow.

Boa noite Doc and all.

docmac said...

Oh my!

Idea/Suggestion Sixty Two: Ask everyone in the world to search their neighbour's house and see if she's hidden in the cupboards or something.

LOL!

Cláudia said...

Oh my, Doc. Although this is a very serious matter, it's impossible not to laugh. LOL That's why Madeleine hasn't been found yet. I haven't searches my neighbours' cupboards or something...

docmac said...

Hi Claudia

Did you read some of the others? Quite hilarious.

This is a bloody interesting read though! Takes a few minutes, but well worth the effort. I'm sure Viv would love to go through it very carefully.

Cláudia said...

Yes, I did, Doc. PMSL!
Have to go out but will read it carefully when I come back.

ratonthebeam said...

Two swarthy males were found guilty of kidnapping three white girls. They drugged the girls, raped them and kept them for use in a local sex slavery ring. In one case, the girl was threatened at gunpoint.

The judge said they each had to serve at least three years before they were eligible for parole.

Wow. That will teach these scum a lesson! Don't take your children on holiday to these third world places with toothless justice systems!

Oops, wait a mo, this was in Manchester.....

docmac said...

by Rosiepops Today at 10:50 am

WITHOUT PREJUDICE (Lolol!)

God bless dear little Madeleine and God bless her parents and give them the strength they need. I think that pretty soon inroads are going to be made as to what happened to Madeleine and where she was taken and where she is now.

You have been 'thinking' this for a year now. I remember you 'thinking' that the Moroccan girl was definitely Maddie. I further remember you 'feeling' that the case of Mari-Luz was 'definitely' connected to the case of Maddie, as was the Belgian sighting and many others.

I remember you 'thinking' a whole lot of things about strange men hanging around PDL, sightings by publicity-seeking British women, Jehovah's Witnesses and 'suspicious' holidaymakers in holiday snaps.

I remember your unfounded slurs against Mr Amaral, the PJ, the Portuguese nation, Muslims and posters with opposing views to yourself. Shame on you. And shame on those few lemmings who hang on your every word.

But most of all, I'll remember you pretending to be a Christian, just like your heroes. Overtly xenophobic, covertly racist and relentlessly antagonistic and insulting towards anyone opposing the McSpin. It's all bullshit.

docmac said...

by Royal Today at 2:43 pm

I sometimes wonder if the McCanns children being left unsupervised is still relevant after all both Kate and Gerry have accepted they made a mistake and have been paying the most dreadful unimaginable heart breaking price ever since, so why do these idiots continue with their unfair persecution! Kate and Gerry have not been charged with any offence and regardless of all the Anti's rantings, ravings and wishful thinking never will be of that I am a hundred per cent certain. Yet still these sadistic perverts persist with their hate canpaign and immoral intentions when all the other decent sympathetic and compassionate people of this world are fully understand and realize the torment Kate and Gerry are enduring and will continue doing so until Madeleine is mercyfully returned to them. Meanwhil I despise, condemn and hate these heartless senseless morons who persistantly continue to wish even more pain and suffering on Madeleine's parents! May they all the Anti's go to Hell and the sooner the better!
Alroy.


That's the way I might feel about those excuses for parents if I were religious. Still, thanks Alroy. 'Despise, condemn and hate'. Hmm. And 'may they all the Anti's [sic] go to Hell'.

Lovely. Wonder what Rosie has to say about this. He'd be a bit of a hypocrite to support it, wouldn't he?

docmac said...

Rat

One year per girl? For kidnapping and rape? FFS!!!

ratonthebeam said...

Both fathers with young families too, Doc. Makes you want to vomit.

ratonthebeam said...

Here is a link to the story.

docmac said...

Cherrrist! Those two even LOOK the part. Smug bastards, the both of them. Throw away the key IMO.

BTW, Rat. How do I log into 3a again? Username is e-mail? Lost the hard drive with the data stored on it.

ratonthebeam said...

username on the 3As is just your username, Doc. It's Google that needs the whole email addy!

I had a look at that other blog you put the link to, as well; that's another blogger getting threatened by the pros. She is certainly not afraid to say what she thinks. I wonder if she's gonna get a big white envelope too?I am still waiting for mine!

BTW if you go to the Daily Wail and read the article about the poor wee tot who was starved to death above the pub, there is a rather interesting comment on it....

ratonthebeam said...

....I think it might be from one of Auntie Phil's neighbours!

:-} :-} :-}

docmac said...

I've tried to get in with my username and password and it doesn't work. Admin not answering my e-mail either.

I was rather disturbed when I read that story earlier. At the time there were only a couple of comments. I shall go and have another look.

docmac said...

Ullapool?

ratonthebeam said...

Yes, and it's not exactly a big place!!!!!

docmac said...

I understand so, yes :-(

Still trying to get hold of admin at 3a. BBL.

docmac said...

3a sorted. Time for a distraction ;-))

Cláudia said...

What a horrible story, Rat.
And about the other storuy, these thrid world countries should be expelled from whatever organasations they belong to, don't you think?

Doc, those comments are hilarious! Thank you for making them available without actually having to visit the house of filth.

docmac said...

by Mum21 Yesterday at 9:01 pm

I am with you on this one Vee....I believe in an eye for an eye. Anyone who takes a life in cold blood deserves to be punished by the same treatment. Premeditated murder should be punishable by death. Perhaps if the death penalty was brought back it may make the knife bearing youngsters of today stop and think. I don't agree it should just be brought back for rape and offences on children. It should cover all aspects of premeditated murder.

Bye Kate and Gerry. Hope this is OK by you.

Cláudia said...

Did I understand it well, Doc? She is in favour of the death penalty but not for sexual abuse of children? As you know I am against the death penalty as a principle. But when I hear about certain crimes comitted against children, I have to confess I start to question my beliefs.
Bum's theory is interesting. An eye for an eye? Some 'responsible' parents may not agree on that one. :-)
Dinner time!

docmac said...

You don't actually have to 'visit' a blog or forum to read what's goin on there ;-)

Speaking of which, just look at Vee8 and his friend shoot themselves in the foot on the 'Mrs Fenn' thread on the purple side. They had read an 'enemy' saying it would be difficult for the lady to hear screaming from the apartment below.

Then they set out to prove the poster wrong! Not blessed in the above neck department then. Oh dear :-((( Never mind, the boss won't notice ;-)

docmac said...

Nope, she agrees with the death penalty for all cases of first degree murder. As I said, goodbye Kate and Gerry.

Enjoy your dinner. I'll be off soon. You know we're 2 hours ahead!

Cláudia said...

But not for the sexual abuse of children, right?
Come on, don't be too harsh on the intelligence deprived. :-)

docmac said...

The main target appears to be hoodies...

docmac said...

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Oh, they must be missing ST. They are being so careful now! What did your anonymous e-mailer say, Claudia? They have to play the Rosie rules version? They're pissed as well because i didn't have to eat my monitor as Obama won :-)

docmac said...

Oh god!!

Just noticed that Paedo Pedro is posting on the purple blog. He was welcomed with open arms. Do these people have any idea as to his previous posts on other blogs and fora? Oh Maddie, you deserved much better than this.

This person needs to be reported.

Cláudia said...

Doc, yep. ST was very useful...
Yes, one of the anons said something like that. :-) If it's the same pedro I'm thinking about, I've read some disturbing things from that character. Really scary stuff.

Cláudia said...

Headlines

docmac said...

Claudia

This is not 'Meyhico Pedro' aka 'Lazarus', who was a total doos like Marsman. This is a completely different animal.

As sym would say, ST has fucked off.

docmac said...

Mushy365. LOL!! True too.

docmac said...

"Kate McCann and Gerry McCann Admit They are more famous than the Beckhams "

Vomit. On all counts!

Cláudia said...

Doc, I know it is not 'that' Pedro. This one is sicker.

docmac said...

Read this Claudia :-))))))

docmac said...

That 'Maria' is not very proud of her homeland, eh? Wonder where they found this fake? Oh hang on, I do know ;-)))

docmac said...

Boa noite. Just had a request. You know why :-)))

Cláudia said...

Well, Doc, if 'Maria' wants to send me her address by e-mail I can send her some interesting things which are not comments, opinions or summaries. But she wouldn't like them, of course! ;-)

Cláudia said...

Dorme bem, amigo.
Beijinhos e até amanhã.

docmac said...

Dorme comes later, Claudia :-))

Beijinhos.

Cláudia said...

I know! :-)
xxxxx

Cláudia said...

Boa noite, all.

nancy said...

Good morning all -

Docmac -

"The McCanns think they are more famous than the Beckhams"!

I think they got that slightly wrong - don't they mean INFAMOUS!

nancy said...

Rat -

Reading about poor little Tiffany, another toddler who didn't ask to be born so horrendously treated, makes me so sad. Sad and really angry because of the pathetic sentences those two excuses for human beings received. I hope they suffer for every moment of that five years, because even hardened criminals loathe child killers and abusers.

Of course, we all know they will be let out before the end of their sentences.

They should both be hung, slowly, as all child killers should, but of course that's not politically correct is it.

ratonthebeam said...

Oh dear, it's not Bathtime Pedro, is it? Oh, well. I suppose sh*t always floats to the surface.

ratonthebeam said...

Todays's stomach-churning bilge from the Daily Wail, with Clarrie's pink paw prints all over it. Any old link will do - no matter how tenuous - to keep the myth alive. Today, we are comparing the Saint McScums to a missing child case from 1928. Yes folks, you read that correctly - an eighty year old cold case from Depression-era America. Is this the sound of a barrel being scraped somewhere?

docmac said...

Nancy

Infamy is what they have achieved, yes.

Rat

Fluffy white towel Pedro it is. Complete weirdo.
Regards. Your friend Docmac ;-))))

docmac said...

Rat you beat me to it! I was just about to post that link. Glenys Roberts needs a slap.

ratonthebeam said...

The Fund must be running low again. They are trying to get Angelina onside now! Maybe she can play Kate in their "blockbuster". One thing for sure, no more help from the Beckhams, after claiming they were "more famous" - Posh wouldn't like that.

(Didn't the Beatles popularity crash in the States after John Lennon said they were more famous than Jesus?)

dylan said...

Good morning all,

Rat, good to read you again :-)

Zodiac, thanks for your kind wishes. x

Docmac, I went to a firework display at friends of my parents and they showed us a DVD they had made of CT when they were there in 2005. I must say it looked so beautiful from Table Mountain right down to the coast and all of the pics of flora and fauna too :-) Two things I want to do now when I eventually have some money 1)visit the Eiger 2)visit CT and I'd like to climb to base camp Anapurna but that requires fitness too!! Hmmm....better start jogging and saving!

So the Muccas think they are more famous than the Beckhams? Oh deary me! Maybe they have a pulpit in their home and call their house McCannterbury Cathedral seeing as they are so saintly!

Have a good day & read you all later. xx

nancy said...

Dylan - have a good day too!

Rat -

Regarding Clint Eastwood's film, Changeling; there is a huge difference regarding the way Christine Collins, the mother, was treated in the States over leaving her child alone , i.e. "It is a chilling portrait of how bungling authorities persecuted a grieving mother and treated her with cynical contempt", and the treatment the authorities in the UK treated the McCanns and the tapas parents, and still are treating them, i.e. as if they are purer than the driven snow and never ever neglected their young children.

If ever they make a film and a few more feathers for their nest, it should have the caption:

'how to neglect your children, cause one to disappear, and make a million out of it by making good use of your mobile phone'!!

It could have the title:

'The untouchable child neglecters'!

By the way, the Daily Mail are really sucking up to the McCanns with that article - are they worried about the McSuers, and that can be taken both ways!!

docmac said...

Hi Dyl

Hopefully you will get here one day. It's one of the very few places that's more beautiful 'in the flesh' than in pictures :-)

You have a good day too.

docmac said...

Nancy

"If ever they make a film.." Oh, it will happen.

Purple people

"We have 94 registered users."

Name them ;-)

ratonthebeam said...

Go and see the Company Gardens and the glasshouses, they are incredible! (I love plants and flowers, especially Victorian conservatories and greenhouses!)

docmac said...

OK Rat, I will. I'm at Artscape right now. (Used to be called the Nico Malan). About 1km from the Gardens :-)))

Should I take peanuts?

ratonthebeam said...

Why, are there pro posters there? :-D

docmac said...

"I sometimes wonder if the McCanns children being left unsupervised is still relevant" (Alroy)

"lulled into a false sense of security" (Alroy and Tinkerbell).

"They do not deserve to be made examples off in order to back up views which consider them as having broken the law" (ModNrodder).

"I think they made a catastrophic error of judgement" (Rosiepops).

"I do not believe the McCanns were neglectful in the true sense of the word" (Tinkerbell).

Wonderful. The excuses just keep coming in. And yet NONE of these people would EVER contemplate doing what the McCanns did. Or so they claim. Yeah right. But only AFTER Maddie 'disappeared' eh?

docmac said...

Haha Rat

No, friendly squirrels :-))

docmac said...

Critical Information

You have been banned from this forum.


No I haven't! LOL!

hope4truth said...

Oh Dear God

SO the McCanns are now more famous than the Beckhams well so was Myra Hindley and she was a revolting bitch who helped murder abuse and dispose of many innocent children along with her scum bag boyfriend Ian Brady. Of course she tried to claim she was not inolved but even Brady made sure she never saw freedom again.

To be the Worlds Most Famous Child Neglectors is not a title I would relish as well as all the other titles they probebly deserve but we are not supposed to talk about.

My Daughter bought a Puppy last week 8 Weeks old on Monday very cute and need's attention all the time. I spent the first two nights with him sleeping on my chest on the sofa as the poor little mite was crying for his Mum.

The deal when she bought him (we have a 9 year old dog and we did not want a puppy) was she would pay for him and pay all his vet bills take care of him and we would buy insurance for him and join him in the vets puppy club for a year as part of her Christmas Present.

By 2am she was exausted and I finaly made her give in and I took him to the sofa. I did this for two reasons I felt so sorry for the little boy and I hated to see my daughter tiered. He now sleeps next to my bed and we get up at 3am so he can go in the Farden to do what dogs must do. In a few weeks when he sleeps through the night he will go back in with her.

She is being brilliant with him the rest of the time and Hubby and I are taking care of him during the day..

I have a pile of papers for the puppy and a headline caught my eye today about the shooting of an innocent man on the tube. They are being told not to try and cover up the truth (quite right) yet this is something that makes us look bad as a nation and if you had to cover something up would it not be this? The fact that it is not being shows the country is intrested in freedom of speech and justice which IMHO can only be a god thing.

Yet a 3 year old child vanishes in very strange circumstances and we are not allowed to talk about it? Mummy and Daddy show arrogance from day one blaming everyone else and threatening to sue anyone who thinks they are scum for leaving their children.

Yet the McCanns are proud of the fact that they behaved within the bounds of Reasonable parenting even though because they were so bloody selfish they say a peadophile ring now has her.

Well sorry but there was nothing Reasonable about leaving 2 year old twins and a 3 year old child home alone or refusing to answer questions their actions along with the Cadavar Scent in their apartment car and Kates clothes show them for the scum they are so enjoy your fame even people who are worried about saying the wrong thing in case they are sued think you are wicked evil people so enjoy it enjoy your blood money and may Madeleine haunt you forever.

The twins should be in care but then the SS department let a 2 year old child starve to death so childrn are the last thing on their minds...

God help all British Children people who should care for them just dont... Starting with some parents....

docmac said...

Martin Grime says:

"There were no alert indications from the remaining properties. I did however
see the dog search in the kitchen waste bins. These contained meat
foodstuffs including pork and did not result in any false alert response."


Rosie will say:

RUBBISH. THOSE DOGS ARE USELESS. THEY HAD JUST BEEN FED, THAT'S WHY. CHRISTABEL SAID THEY LOVE BACON AND I BELIEVE IT BECAUSE SHE SAID SO. AND KEELA IS JUST AS CRAP. WHY DO THEY PAY THESE DOGS?"

hope4truth said...

Oh dear put God instead of Good but I guess God and Good are the same thing really depending on what you belive xxx

docmac said...

Hope

Just thinking about anyone (let alone DOCTORS) leaving such young children alone to go out for some 'us' time still makes me nauseous.

hope4truth said...

DOc

So have they gone underground as they have cottend on at long last that the more they post the gultier the McCann's sound???

Where they went wrong IMHO is they should all have been very cross with Kate and Gerry for neglecting very young children night after night and agree it is not something that should ever be allowed to happen. Then go on to say but as for killing Madeleine no not them you can see how they are sufferin poor things.

Oh they cant as the happy snaps of them on her 4th Birthday show just how grief stricken they wernt...

Sorry Gerry and Kate if you had hired me instead of CM your fund would be bursting and no one in the World would think you were anything but Naive you really picked the wrong team guys...

Not that I would have touched you with a barge pole how would I ever sleep again but some people I know would have....

hope4truth said...

Hey Doc

Blimey many typos in last post but cant be bothered to change them got to give the Pros something to laugh at bless em...

I have been so busy with Pup have not had time to post (hard when he wants to eat the laptop) but have been reading finding it hysterical you can still read the sewer LOL xxx

docmac said...

Hope

I heff vays und means ;-)

Those photos of the McScams on Maddie's and my birthday last year were disgusting.

Good luck with the pup! My little one wants a kitten now. Problem is our dog hates cats.

hope4truth said...

LOL

Bloody hell please tell me you are not RP I was convinced she was a secret Anti ages ago as everything she posts makes them look worse...

Other Daughter wants a kitten and finds the puppy very unfair although she spends everything she has and would not have £200 for the dog and the money for injections....

Now would be the time to get her one so the puppy can get used to it while they are both young (other dog a softy and is bullied by the bunnies)....xxx

docmac said...

I think you'll find some on here have pics of me and my family in CT, Hope. RP would never come here. Too many swarthy people ;-)

Yeah, he does the Mcs no favours, eh?

hope4truth said...

LOL

Well thank god for that....

I bet they would be surprised at some on their site though making them look even worse than they do themselves...

I am off to take Pup to meet Father in Law Daughter praying puppy does not eat his furniture LOL...

See you later xxx

docmac said...

Good luck to your father-in-law's furniture. Have a great time.

docmac said...

Was just reading on 3As. It is intriguing to see all the 'doppelgangers' on there. There are so many who have a dual agenda. I could name them all, but it would take too long.

What is most interesting, however, is noting the threads that the 'maritime lawyer' sans_souci monitors ;-))

Go the Arse! 1-0 and almost half time.

docmac said...

by vee8 Today at 12:33 pm

I posted those pics up on the Big debates board, and asked sillycat where the footpaths were. She apologised, and admitted her mistake, no if's, and's or but's! Now THAT'S why I respect her. How many other anti's would argue black is white rather than admit they were wrong? Why can't all the anti's be like sillycat?

Sillycat is not anti Gerry and Kate. She's on a very scratchy fence. Her poephol is itching a lot more than yours. FACT.

docmac said...

Google translation of Amaral's book.

docmac said...

Man U lose :-)))

docmac said...

Talking to myself. LFC playing later. Goodbye.

Cláudia said...

Hello, all.

Doc, loved the excuses for the disgusting revolting behaviour. They do not believe them themselves. Even those who forgot their children outside shops but remembered all the groceries.

dylan said...

Whoopie! Cheers for the heads-up on Arse-nal, Doc! :-)))))

Hi Claudia, excuses were hilarious and purely because excuses are exactly what they were ;-)

Hope, glad to see you are straight to the point as usual and not mincing your words - quite right too! Can you mail me a pic of the puppy? I am missing Dylan although I hear he is having a wonderful life in Wales now. Re the bunnies - lol! I am picturing them complete with fangs and red eyes now ;-)

It is looking like Saturdays for me are "let's meet foreign people day"!! First of all there were the two Polish guys and today, in the bus stop a Portuguese lady from Madeira just started chatting with me. She came to visit Norwich 35 years ago and stayed. She made me laugh because she said that Norwich bus drivers are often really grumpy and when they are, she just goes straight ahead and asks them "what side of the bed did you get out of this morning?". It was funny because I've had that thought many a time but never dared to voice it! Bless and she was only little woman too. We must have looked like a right swarthy couple just standing there chatting together and I'm surprised we weren't arrested!!

Cleaning day, so I must get on now. BBL. xx

docmac said...

Springboks win! Close though ;-)

You could do worse than support my team later, Dyl :-)))

BBL.

nancy said...

"IS THIS THE REAL REASON THE McCANNS ARE KEEPING QUIET"?

Big L asks this on the 3A's (thread 25372).

He puts over a theory that the McCanns should maybe be watching their backs because those involved in the covert protection of the McCanns may one day when everything has died down and been forgotten make sure they never speak out.

Seems far fetched, but I think Big L has a point. The only thing is, as I see it, the tapas pals would have to come to a sticky end too as they too are involved up to their yellow necks.

It could also be why the media are going out of their way to be protective of the McCanns and scupper any idea of their being guilty of anything at all. Maybe they are watching their backs too!

bath theory said...

As a lifelong supporter of Arsenal and former debenture holder I would like to remind everyone who reads this that Arsenal's strategy under George Graham with Tony Adams as Captain was to see everyone as an enemy and to create a 'team' mentality where everyone was an enemy. (Can you see where I am going yet?)

Thus, the language and words that came out of 'the camp' were defensive and based around a strategy that meant everyone was to be viewed as an enemy. All newspaper headlines were seen to be anti- Arsenal when the reality was quite different. But words were used to mould a spirit and defiance. Layers upon layers of masks were deliberately sealed.
Thus, journalists and the general public who disagreed with them were slated and spoken ill of. (Getting closer isn't it)

Initially this strategy worked very well and many were sucked in. The team stuck together and major victories were won and claimed.

However, history shows that money was taken illegally and a major person at the centre of the club got found out. A member of 'the team' broke ranks and the manager was charged with falsely taking money.

Arsenal and its male head were exposed and people started writing autobiographies that showed how conscious their misleading strategy was played and used. The story came out and the facts were unpeeled slowly but surely.

:)

A spiritual gooner says JFM.

How many times must a man turn his head and pretend that he just doesn't see - Not many !!!!

WE SHALL OVERCOME

bath theory said...

Hi to all. I am sitting here calm, composed and positive that Madeleine's journey will not have been in vain. It is only an opinion but a strong one that sits beneath my heart.

:)

docmac said...

Hey 'spiritual gooner'.

Methinks your analogy is spot on. I am sitting here calm, composed and positive too. Just for a different reason right at the minute :-)

docmac said...

Goodness

Rosiepops can't even spell his own members' names now. I'm still 'banned', but can read every word they say.

Still, there's always ROBBIE KEANE! :-)))

docmac said...

LFC can't lose from here. Strawberry and champagne time ;-)

Goodnight all.

docmac said...

Hehe. Late goal too.

Ate logo.

dylan said...

Docmac, highly amusing re poops! Keep up the covert tapping of the purple room!

I couldn't bring myself to follow the 'boks seeing as they trounced us ;-) I could get into CT though. The sad thing is, amidst the rainbow of beautifully coloured birds and flowers on the photos, my lasting memory of his pictures was: nice rocks!!! (of the stony variety, that is ;-)) There's no hope for me :(
Have a great evening folks. Off to watch a film with my freind. xx

Cláudia said...

Boa noite, all.

Zodiac said...

Hi all,

'by Royal Today at 2:43 pm

I sometimes wonder if the McCanns children being left unsupervised is still relevant'

Kn*bhead it does not matter what you wonder or consider relevant! It is what the little 3 year old child who was left alone in a holiday flat with her 2 year old siblings to fend for themselves considers relevant. You know the little 3 year old who's parents suggest was abducted to order by an organised paedophile ring. Do you think if that child is still alive and being subjected to the most horrific torture, considers the fact that she was left whilst her parents p*ssed off to be with their friends irrelevant!


I would like to know who told the parents who left their 3 children aged 3 and under alone in a locked/unlocked holiday flat, whilst they wined and dined in a holiday complex Tapas Bar a 100mts approx away that their actions were WELL WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF RESPONSIBLE PARENTING. This has to be clarified, especially as their actions were the catalyst to whatever situation their child may or may not find herself in now.

nancy said...

Hi everyone -

Zodiac -

I think Gerry knows damn well that Madeleine is not with anyone, let alone a paedophile.

"find the body and prove it" - his cold hearted words, and words that convince me that poor, sweet Madeleine, is no longer in this world.

Did he say that because he knows she is dead, or because he knows or thinks she is still alive I wonder.

They are hiring more detectives to try and find Madeleine; is this just to push the abduction theory, or do they really think she could be safe and well with someone who entered her bedroom and whisked her away to a fate none of us would want to think about.

And just who are these new detectives? Do we know their names yet?

I am more than ready to eat humble pie and get out the champagne and celebrate if darling Madeleine is found alive and well, but I think this is just a pipe dream quite frankly.

Have a lovely Sunday everyone and while we enjoy a day with our families, let's also concentrate our minds on Justice for Madeleine and all abused and tormented children everywhere in the world.

Nx

hope4truth said...

Zodiac and Nancy

Well said...

The strangest thing about this sad sad story is the parents and the major defence of them. No one is allowed to cast them as the villans or the evil child neglectors...

From the first time I heard Gerry speak on May 4th I thought she was dead but at the time thought it was an accident there was something about him I did not trust.

I did not hate him or her then (dont really hate them now they are just another two unfit parents to add to a very long list of scumbags who cant be bothered to look after their children)...

Of course the fact that they neglected their children IF there had been an abduction would be the only reason Madeleine went missing from that apartment. As a human being the fact that she has been home alone would have envoked the exact reaction I had when I first discussed it with my Mum "They were in a bar and they left the children in a room alone who the hell does that?" I did not belive what Gerry was saying and I think the reason was already he was making excuses about how far away they were Dinner in the Back Garden etc...

The only thing wrong with critisising the McCann's is the fact they have a missing child. Let's face it can you imagine any of us having a go at a family who's child was missing? It is cruel it is unkind and does no one any good and the parents are going through hell... I hate to see people taking the law into their own hands asuming they know what the truth is.

SO I watched everything I could read everything about the case and my suspicion grew and grew these just were not parents who were worried sick about their 3 year old child they knew exactly where she was and what happend to her. It was 5 months later that I found the DX and got involved in blogging and the only reason because Madeleine had been forgotten her parents were the only victims she was not important.

The fact they were happy with this was astounding If I had been made a suspect in my Daughters disapearence I would be heartbroken but it would not hurt as much as not knowing what she was going through or if she was still alive. Yet off they run home and the next thing they have jumped on Amber Alert and tried to make it their own.

Sorry but you have been accused of killing your child she is still missing and you have two other small children left to cling to and you have a jolly off to Brussels????

I would never write to Gerry and Kate and tell them what I think of them. I would not cross the street to tell them how I feel not because I am afraid to say it to their face but I dont have the right to do so. They dont have to read blogs if my child were missing people could call me what they liked because they would not mean a damn thing to me I would know the truth and as long as someone was still looking for my child nothing else would matter.

There have been so many rumours and since the DVD was released most of the speculation was true. I dont want to go along with any theory that comes up but IMHO they have brought all of this on themselves.

Looking so Happy so many times especialy on what would have been her 4th Birthday...

Kate refusing to answer any questions???

The Cadavar Odur in the aprtment the car Kates clothes Madeleines clothes car keys bible cuddle cat..

And the most astounding on discovering Madeleine missing she left the twins alone while she ran the distance to the Tapas Bar no one would do that if they really belived their child had been taken...

dylan said...

Morning,

Well said Zodiac, Nancy & Hope. I can't add anything except to say that I would have felt pity for them had they physically gone out and searched for her, only they didn't. Claiming instead that they were too traumatised to do so in the first two days. Traumatised or not, normal people would have been out there searching all night. That's just plain parental instinct which seems to have eluded them for some reason.....

Viv must be having a great time :-))) We haven't heard from her in a while.

Have a good Sunday. xx

docmac said...

Afternoon all

Dyl

Another day in paradise. Oh well :-))

Rosie has been mouthing off about the death penalty on the forum that I have been banned from.

This does not mean that I think we should go easy on people who have committed atrocities, I just believe that killing them is not the answer. Imprisoning them and actually keeping them for the rest of their lives has to be a far greater punishment.

Are you listening K&G?

docmac said...

We have 94 registered users

Again, name them :-)

docmac said...

I base this on what happened to Leonor Cipriano and her brother Jaeo [sic] Cipriano, and their convictions for the murder of Joana Cipriano, on what appears to be the flimsiest of circumstantial evidence.

Cough cough. They confessed to the murder. Much braver than KH and her flat headed Scottish (yes, I'm ashamed) husband.

Cláudia said...

Hello, all.
Doc, someone recently alerted me to the fact that Mod was the most recent user for the fourth or fifth time! :-)))))
They really think they can ban people? How silly. :-)

Cláudia said...

Who's Jaeo Cipriano? :-)

docmac said...

Jaeo Cipriano is an innocent swarthy guy. Honest.

Rosie is getting into those wordy posts again, I'll tell you. Nothing about you or me though.

docmac said...

Critical Information

You have been banned from this forum.


Not again! :-)))

Cláudia said...

Doc, LOL
It must be hard not having ST to go and post and then post as 3 different anons agreeing with herself. :-)

docmac said...

Oh, those long names were getting on my tits, Claudia.

Cláudia said...

LOL, Doc.
Some were so crystal clear it was hilarious!

docmac said...

Rosie brings up the Sally Clark story in defence of Kate McCann. Ja Rosie, working class parents NEVER commit crimes.

docmac said...

I've still got a friction rash on my tits, Claudia. I think I'll sue.

Cláudia said...

Go ahead.
Have you already contacted Carter *uck?

docmac said...

# Top 20 today posters

Umm. You only have '20' members!

# Top 20 overall posters

Umm. Where's Bum since ST went missing? And where's Mandz and Maureen?

docmac said...

I don't want to get rucked Claudia.

Cláudia said...

Doc, and where's Chucky Doll?

hope4truth said...

Hello ALL

Is Borin Maurin still around then Doc I thought her name vanishd months ago when they realised she had more disaster in her life than a resident of Albert Square (Eastenders Brit Soap Opera if you dont get it in Portugal or SA)???

xxx

Cláudia said...

What about Richard Rampton QC?

Cláudia said...

Hope, I don't even remember who Maureen was anymore. I know she was a pro and I think she posted on DE, but cannot remember who she was, what she posted and what her characteristics were. :-)

docmac said...

Hope

We get Eastenders. And Corrie :-((

Claudia

Chucky seems to be history.

Cláudia said...

I have to visit the HoF more often.

docmac said...

Don't have QCs here Claudia. No 'Mister' surgeons either. Well, we have one. :-)

Cláudia said...

Maybe you could contact Marcos Aragão, then! PMSL!

docmac said...

Shite! Chelsea scored :-(

docmac said...

Marcos Aragão was born in 1975 Claudia. A little green behind the ears for me :-)

Cláudia said...

Yes, they did. :-) Sorry!

Cláudia said...

He's only four years older than me? Didn't know that.
Anyway, everything is ok as long as he is silent. It's when he opens his mouth that things for bad for him. Just like with his client.

hope4truth said...

Doc/Claudia

Glad you get Eastenders you know how unlucky the old bint was then...

Claudia I only remeber her as she accused me of being a Man (and got very smug about her false discovery) then accused me of stalking her (then realised she had the wrong person) a bit thick I think LOL

Oh has CD gone away she will be missed one of the first people to alert me to the fact they were only there to bully and intimidate how could I stop posting after that little bitch made me throw up LOL...

Poor Troll if only he had listend to me a long time ago and closed down his blog I may have vanished a while back (he is probebly in church praying for my salvation to saint McCann)...

Off out again have a nice afternoon see you later...

Still find it childishly funny you can still read their rubbish LOL xxx

docmac said...

Don't you post Chelsea smilies at me ;-)

Off to the beach now. Catch you later.

Cláudia said...

Hope, LOL
Laters, Doc! :-)

mandarinn said...

Good evening all
I was reading and i saw doc named Mandaz. The first time i entered in DX forum , it was mandaz that impressed me more because the rage and hate she show against portuguese in general and Pj.He say for me most arrogant and and stupid b**+ i ever saw...

Cláudia said...

Hello, Mandarinn.
It seems I blocked most of them from DE times. :-) I remember Mandz but don't remember anything specific she said. :-)

mandarinn said...

I don't remenber nothing spescific either, i remenber the hate, the arrogant and that her argumamentation was quite stupid

Cláudia said...

Now that you mention it, yes, I don't remember her as exactly smart. But most of them were a bit (or a lot) thick. There were a few who I considered smart although I did not agree with them. Not many.

ratonthebeam said...

Journalist Geoffrey Wansell called Sally Clark's experience "one of the great miscarriages of justice in modern British legal history." I don't think there were any PJ or swarthy predators involved in it, or am I thinking of a different Sally Clark (of Blessed Memory)???

docmac said...

Rat

Having read the Clark case over and over again I have come to the conclusion that she was guilty :-(

docmac said...

Night all

Early morning for us tomorrow. Off to a place somewhere near the Mediterranean 'Ocean'. Maybe we'll see Viv :-)

Cláudia said...

Doc, take care.
xxxx

Di said...

Hi Doc

Give Viv my regards!

Save journey..

Di said...

Doc

Sally Clark, taboo subject in my village!

Di said...

Hi Hope

Your early morning post my sentiments exactly.

BT your post last night..

I loved the analogy!!

Sorry I have not been posting, very busy with family at the moment but I will catch up.

x

Di said...

Hi Dyl

Take care

XX

Di said...

Doc

That should be safe journey. lol

dylan said...

Docmac, if it is a trip for pleasure, I hope you guys have fun :-)

Hello Di, thanks. Sounds like you are having a very busy time of it but I hope it's not all work, work, work! Were you referring to Hope's bunnies?? Hope has a real knack with words in that she just comes straight out with what she thinks - no nonense but she makes me laugh too when she brings her bunnies into it :-))) Not that I would want it misconstrued as in that I think the case is a laughing matter, just that I think Hope is a funny gal! (and I meant that nicely, Hope xx)

Was the Sally Clark case the one where a mother was accused of murdering her babies but was later cleared based upon a doctor's statement that was later held to be not watertight? If it is the woman I am thinking of, she died from the stress of it all. If so, Docmac, I hope you are wrong about it. So sad.:(

BBL xx

Di said...

Hi Dyl

I was referring to hopes 8.25pm post.

Have you got bunnies on the brain lol...

Sally Clark yes, you have the right person.

Doc, I am not sure you are correct about your assumptions though:o((

hope4truth said...

Hi DI and Dyl

Hope you are having a nice day it is really blustery here (and wet)...

Dyl I have bunnies on the brain the grey one would not come in tonight ended up bribing her with a carrot whils letting all the heat out from the Conservatory LOL

xxx

dylan said...

Di,

I think I always have furry things on the brain! My parents' friends that we went to see Friday night had 4 lovely cats. I think they were called Tonganese (a mix between Siamese and another breed which I forget the name of). I now want more cats but I think it would be sensible to wait until I can actually afford more! I also cuddled a guinea pig the other week which was equally as cute. I could just fill my home with animals as I love them but it wouldn't take much as my home is quite small :(

Hope, what a naughty bunny! Carrots and what would have been a warm home too. How ungrateful ;-))

Off to bed now. It's stormy here too and my duvet is calling!

Goodnight all. xx

nancy said...

Hope -

Your earlier post in response to mine and Zodiac's was straight from the heart and said it all.

No parents who are really devastated and suffering a terrifying loss could stand with photos of their missing daughter just a few days after her birthday with great smiles on their smug faces. It's as if they were clones and completely unnatural.

Just seeing that photo, how anyone can believe they are genuinely suffering is surely beyond the comprehension of normal parents.

Nothing adds up in this case except the glaring fact that these people left their children alone to go out drinking and dining and should, in my opinion, be charged with abandonment and neglect at the very least. The fact that all of them haven't been called to account in a Court of Law for their actions on that night must make all those who fight for neglected and endangered children want to climb the walls in frustration.

I think the photos of the tapas pals outside the Law Courts shows they are carrying a heavy burden of guilt. Not having seen the McCanns for a while I don't know if they are looking just as guilt ridden, but I shouldn't be surprised if they are.

As the saying goes:

"Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we set out to deceive"!

It could have been invented for these untouchables.

Lindy123 said...

I go to the purple forum regularly and noticed that some posts are headed "without prejudice". I think that's so funny - why are they doing that? And why the dogged defence of child neglectors? I read ST's blog until it went underground, such venom I have never seen before. The comments were alarming but fascinating at the same time - how can slagging off ex members or other blog owners help get justice for Madeleine? The support for the McCanns is more than just support it is slavish, demented devotion.
All this "anti" and "pro" stuff, FGS it's supposed to be about a missing three year old. I'm just pro Madeleine, have been since May 2007.
The photos of the parents on what would have been Madeleine's fourth birthday made me feel ill. They looked like they'd won the lottery and maybe they thought they had.

Lindy123 said...

Blog alert - £2000 richer eh? I'd like to know what the balance is for the limited company.

Day 556: 09/11/2008

A difficult week for Kate and me ended on a positive note last night. Monday was the 3rd of November- 18 months since Madeleine was so cruelly taken from us. We do not usually put a lot of store in specific milestones - these being just another day without Madeleine. This week was unusual in that both Kate and I were feeling low at the same time, which is an uncommon occurrence, and we can usually rely on one of us lifting the other.

We continue to work very hard behind the scenes. Our support team has been expanded as we try to identify what has been done, what has not been done and what can still be done to help find Madeleine. We are not yet halfway through the Portuguese files but there is less information within the files than we were expecting. As I have stated many times, someone has a key bit of information that can unlock this frustratingly difficult and painful situation.

Yesterday we went through to Liverpool for a Race Night organised by the Greenhills Taverners Society- a group who organise fundraising events for local good causes- along with family and friends. On this occasion all proceeds were going towards Madeleines Fund. Around 200 people turned up and everyone enjoyed a good night. Liverpool and Everton donated signed shirts which were auctioned and with tickets and a raffle around £2000 has been raised. A taxi driver, taking home some of our friends, even got in to the spirit of things by donating his fare to the fund. Well done everyone and thanks for all the messages of support prayers- we left Liverpool in much better spirits than when we arrived!

nancy said...

Good morning everyone -

Lindy123 -

I have just read Gerry's latest blog on the McCann File and feel the same as you.

At the end of the day this is not about Madeleine but about just how much money they can make.

It's amazing how they can convince members of the public to cough up still.

They must be laughing up their sleeves at some of the public's naivety.

They were feeling low! I would be feeling devastated and no amount of money would put me out of my misery, but then I am not them thank God.

No word about how their new high flying detectives are doing then? They seem to be as secretive as the Tapas 9.

nancy said...

Lindy123

As far as the Troll blog goes, it makes no difference if they make it a members only blog, because we know word for word, off by heart, what it says anyway!

Good riddance to bad rubbish if you ask me.

ratonthebeam said...

Nancy and Lindy

I would be most surprised if the troll blog has any posts at all on it now. They only ever wrote all that venom and shit for our "benefit", which is why I stopped even reading it a long, long time ago. Now that nobody can see it, there is no point to it - even for them.

Expect it to die a swift death. And good riddance.

nancy said...

Rat -

Too true! I'd rather watch paint dry than read their utterly boring remarks - never a word about Madeleine's fate of course.

ratonthebeam said...

Day 556: 09/11/2008

A difficult week for Kate and me ended on a positive note last night.

I wonder what sort of "difficult week" poor wee Madeleine has had, in the hands of the "paedophile gang".

Monday was the 3rd of November- 18 months since Madeleine was so cruelly taken from us.

Here we go again, Me Me Me...

We do not usually put a lot of store in specific milestones - these being just another day without Madeleine. This week was unusual in that both Kate and I were feeling low at the same time, which is an uncommon occurrence, and we can usually rely on one of us lifting the other.

Who the Ruck CARES about how YOU are feeling, Gerry? How do you think MADELEINE is feeling?

We continue to work very hard behind the scenes.

Aye. Right. Doing WHAT, exactly? Because it ain't helping the PJ, or actually LOOKING.

Our support team has been expanded as we try to identify what has been done, what has not been done and what can still be done to help find Madeleine. We are not yet halfway through the Portuguese files but there is less information within the files than we were expecting.

The 24 "timeline" photos not there then? Bugger.

As I have stated many times, someone has a key bit of information that can unlock this frustratingly difficult and painful situation.

Try ROB and David Payne.

Yesterday we went through to Liverpool for a Race Night organised by the Greenhills Taverners Society- a group who organise fundraising events for local good causes- along with family and friends. On this occasion all proceeds were going towards Madeleines Fund. Around 200 people turned up and everyone enjoyed a good night. Liverpool and Everton donated signed shirts which were auctioned and with tickets and a raffle around £2000 has been raised. A taxi driver, taking home some of our friends, even got in to the spirit of things by donating his fare to the fund. Well done everyone and thanks for all the messages of support prayers- we left Liverpool in much better spirits than when we arrived!

Of course you bloody well did Gerry. You are two tax-free grand richer! Well, I hope you enjoy your blood money. It will bring you no happiness. Blood money never does.

nancy said...

Re Gerry's latest banal blog.
I have just finished reading about it (thread 25428) on the 3A's.

Some very interesting comments and well worth a read.

Gerry saying for instance:
"18 months since Madeleine was so cruelly taken from us" - surely that is the sort of comment one would make if someone had died!

Also:

"As I have stated many times, someone has a key bit of information that can unlock this frustratingly difficult and painful situation".

Yes, of course someone does Gerry, namely, you, Kate and your tapas pals who could have gone back to Portugal and helped the PJ's instead of sitting on your a..es thinking up ways to make more money!

By the way Gerry, you should get a bit of help with your blog from CM - you are beginning to show some cracks in your emotions!

See you all later. Off to hang some wallpaper.

Zodiac said...

Hi all,

'A difficult week for Kate and me ended on a positive note last night.'

Why? Was the then 3 year old daughter that you and your wife left with her 2 year old siblings to fend for themselves, whilst you wined and dined with your friends, reunited unscathed back into the bossom of your family? You know the 3 year old you suggest was taken by order for a professional paedophile ring. FFS, or are you just feeling positive and lifted by the £2000 notes!

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