KATE MCCANN, CLEARLY IN AGONY AS SHE DESCRIBED MADELEINE COMPLAINING OF HER AND SEAN BEING LEFT ALONE TO CRY ON 3 MAY 2007 AT BREAKFAST TIME, HER LAST MORNING ALIVE. The Sun
Agony ... Gerry and Kate McCann
* Kate's Maddie hol premonition
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Kate's Maddie holiday premonition
By JAMES CLENCH
Published: 20/10/08
KATE McCann had a haunting premonition about the holiday on which daughter Madeleine went missing.
She told a close pal before the trip had been booked: “I don’t know why, I’ve just got an uneasy feeling about it.”
Fiona Payne, 36, revealed Kate’s worries to Portuguese police.
Tapas friends ... Fiona and David Payne
Kate and husband Gerry, both 40, were at first undecided about whether to make the trip, she said.
Fiona was one of the Tapas Seven who dined with the McCanns on the night of three-year-old Madeleine’s disappearance at the Mark Warner Ocean Club resort in Praia Da Luz.
She told an officer: “This always haunts me. Kate ... what she said ... she was unsure.
“Gerry was quite keen but Kate said, ‘I don’t know why, I’ve just got an uneasy feeling about it.’
“And I don’t know why she said that. I don’t think even she knows.”
Fiona’s husband David, 42, said: “Kate didn’t feel quite easy about it.”
The details emerged during interviews given by the Tapas Seven — David, Fiona, her mum Dianne Webster, 64, Dr Russell O’Brien and his partner Jane Tanner, both 37, Dr Matthew Oldfield, 39, and his wife Rachael, 37.
They spoke to cops in April at Enderby, Leics.
The documents, which have been seen by The Sun, total more than 1,000 pages.
Asked how Kate appeared after Madeleine’s disappearance Fiona, an anaesthetist, said: “Awful. I’ve never seen such horrible raw emotion in my life and I’ve seen a lot of it in my job.
“She was bereft. She didn’t know what to do, she was panicking, extremely frightened for Madeleine and was wondering where she was or what was happening to her.
"And the helplessness of not being able to do anything, what should she be doing, what could they do.
“She was angry, really angry, punching walls, kicking walls.
“The next day she was covered in bruises. She was angry at herself.
“She kept saying, ‘I’ve let her down. We’ve let her down, Gerry. We should have been here’. And she prayed a lot.”
Husband David said: “Gerry broke down ... just a broken man.
"He would fling a cupboard open and have a look in a vain, desperate hope she might have been there.
“Then he flung himself on the floor and was just kicking the floor and was just, ‘She’s gone, she’s gone’.”
David’s mother-in-law Dianne said: “Gerry was distraught. I’ve never heard a man make the noises Gerry made.”
The Express do not use this picture in their articles, they use a picture of little Madeleine, I suspect the only one they are actually concerned about, time will tell.
Hiya all, You will see from the third report below that Express published an apology to all seven of the Tapas crew on 16/10 but then on Sunday 19/10 in a further apology apparently to the TAPAS 7 again, just two specific reports are referred to and only Rusell and Jane are apologised to. So why were they all standing on the steps of the High Court? And where was Russell, the one was really ahem, libelled! Taking his solicitor's advice I suspect and staying well out of it. Carter Ruck are not renowned for giving their clients good advice...Mr Justice Eady commented that Derek Jamieson's case was doomed to failure, did Carter Ruck tell Mr Jamieson, well no, they forgot to mention that culminating in Mr Jamieson picking up a £75,000 legal bill, nice one Carter Ruck the firm who "acts" for clients and costs them a packet!
Not only are the Express a little unclear as to who they are apologising to and for what... as we know, Clarence has been telling us for months that Kennedy is looking for a British Detective to head up the hunt for Maddie, somewhat cynically the Express also publish a report about this finishing with the rather odd words of Gerry McCann ...knowing what has been done and what has not been done is important in planning our future strategy. Well we never had any doubts about that, Gerry, even in the early days in PDL your frustration at not knowing what the Police had on you was all too apparent. I have never met a criminal yet who is not extremely anxious to know what the police are up to and just how much they have found out. You are no exception!
UK NEWS
‘THE TAPAS SEVEN’ - AN APOLOGY
Sunday October 19,2008
In articles published on 16 September and 2 December 2007 we suggested that Russell O’Brien and Jane Tanner, the holiday companions of Kate and Gerry McCann, might be named as official suspects by the Portuguese police investigating Madeleine’s disappearance and that Dr O’Brien might have helped to cover up the true facts.
We now accept that these suggestions should never have been made and were completely untrue. We apologise to Russell O’Brien and Jane Tanner to whom we have agreed to pay substantial damages which they will be donating to the Find Madeleine Fund.
‘THE TAPAS SEVEN’ - AN APOLOGY
Sunday October 19,2008
In articles published on 16 September and 2 December 2007 we suggested that Russell O’Brien and Jane Tanner, the holiday companions of Kate and Gerry McCann, might be named as official suspects by the Portuguese police investigating Madeleine’s disappearance and that Dr O’Brien might have helped to cover up the true facts.
We now accept that these suggestions should never have been made and were completely untrue. We apologise to Russell O’Brien and Jane Tanner to whom we have agreed to pay substantial damages which they will be donating to the Find Madeleine Fund.
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Hunt for detective to head Maddy probe - Sunday Express
By Brendan AbbottSunday October 19, 2008Kate and Gerry McCann are reviewing their strategy as no major breakthrough has emerged in the hunt for Madeleine.Millionaire businessman Brian Kennedy, their financial backer, is seeking a former high-ranking police detective to mastermind the private investigation.He has interviewed several candidates and will see more in the coming weeks. Whoever takes on the job faces the mammoth task of assessing information gathered by many private detectives since Madeleine vanished 18 months ago.The investigator will also have to read thousands of pages of Portuguese police files released in August and painstakingly translated.The family's spokesman Clarence Mitchell said the investigation was continuing in many countries as the McCanns study the files line by line.Heart specialist Mr McCann said in his blog report last week: "Kate and I have been incredibly busy over the last couple of months since the files were made public."We and our family have always vowed to leave no stone unturned in the search for our daughter and knowing exactly what has been done and, more importantly, what has not been done is vital in planning our future strategy."
By Brendan AbbottSunday October 19, 2008Kate and Gerry McCann are reviewing their strategy as no major breakthrough has emerged in the hunt for Madeleine.Millionaire businessman Brian Kennedy, their financial backer, is seeking a former high-ranking police detective to mastermind the private investigation.He has interviewed several candidates and will see more in the coming weeks. Whoever takes on the job faces the mammoth task of assessing information gathered by many private detectives since Madeleine vanished 18 months ago.The investigator will also have to read thousands of pages of Portuguese police files released in August and painstakingly translated.The family's spokesman Clarence Mitchell said the investigation was continuing in many countries as the McCanns study the files line by line.Heart specialist Mr McCann said in his blog report last week: "Kate and I have been incredibly busy over the last couple of months since the files were made public."We and our family have always vowed to leave no stone unturned in the search for our daughter and knowing exactly what has been done and, more importantly, what has not been done is vital in planning our future strategy."
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'THE TAPAS SEVEN' - AN APOLOGY
Thursday October 16,2008
In articles published between July and December last year we suggested that the holiday companions of Kate and Gerry McCann might have covered up the true facts concerning Madeleine McCann’s disappearance and/or misled the authorities investigating her disappearance.
We also reported speculation that one member of the group, Dr Russell O’Brien, was suspected of involvement with Madeleine’s abduction. We now accept that these suggestions should never have been made and were completely untrue.We apologise to Jane Tanner, Russell O’Brien, Fiona Payne, David Payne, Matthew Oldfield, Rachael Oldfield and Diane Webster to whom we have agreed to pay substantial damages which they will be donating to the Find Madeleine Fund.
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BBL.
Goncalo Amaral has named only two witnesses to testify in his defence. One of them is Leonor Cipriano! Somebody is not going to see their wish come true ;-)
Ja, Claudia
They wanted to charge me double because she has such a huge mouth so I brought her back home to watch a DVD :-)))
Doc, LOL
I read Mr Amaral's lawyer. He said the two witnesses, for now, are more than enough. ;-)
Claudia
A 'certain pro' who has led a campaign of hatred against GA is going to choke on his porridge.
Which one? 90% of them have! LOL
The leader, Claudia ;-)
Oh, the queen bee. :-)
aka the child killer lover.
Hi all,
Hey Docmac that link to the pic should have a warning! Yuk! I feel sick.
I'm PMSL here. Poops has lost it again and there is a huge rant against Dylan which was triggered by a comment the stupid cow thought came from Dylan, but which in fact came from Bum the racist! LOL
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Mum21 said...
Dylan said...
FYI, our country is so lacking in the working classes and young workers that there will not be enough tax revenue available to pay for our retired population (such as my father) as more and more people are living to a ripe old age.
I agree with that...except we do have plenty of working class youngsters...but they are on the dole. Why are they on the dole? Because there are not enough jobs to go round.
Why are there not enough jobs to go round? Think about it.
Rosiepops said...
Dylan Said.
I agree with that...except we do have plenty of working class youngsters...but they are on the dole. Why are they on the dole? Because there are not enough jobs to go round.
Why are there not enough jobs to go round? Think about it.
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(Sorry ST, this is a bit of a rant and I understand completely if you feel it is not the place for it.)
What do you mean telling Mum21 to think about it? How bloody rude, how dare you? I think Mum has more experience of life than you, you stupid, brainless hypocritical characterless woman. I was tempted to call you a girl, but you are not a girl, you are a grown woman with a family and what kind of example are you setting them? bla bla bla bla insults insult bla bla bla (...)
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You stupid woman, the first part of the comment was a quote from Dylan. From "I gree with that" on it's was Bum the racist's reply! You should have noticed, you child killer lover. It was full of the fantastic ... ... ...
Off for something to eat. Have not had a bite all day. I cannot believe I have been on-line since 9.05am buying Christmas presents!
Docmac,
Salma sounds lovely can't wait to hear more about her. She has a great life for such a plastic person.
Zodiac, sometimes (very, very rarely), I'm sorry that Europe doesn't have justice Texas style. For those two child molesters and child killers, I can't say I would be shocked to see them get the death sentence, which, in normal situations, I strongly oppose.
Bom apetite, Zodiac.
So there are no doubts:
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dylan said...
Found this from Bum:
"You are right Viv, I am not a pretendy racist. In fact I am not a racist at all. Except I do object to having paid and still am paying thousands of pounds into this country in taxes...only to have it squandered on immigrants."
Bum, we are all immigrants or invaders in one shape or form, here in the UK. It was not long ago in terms of British history that our government invited labourers from the tattered remains of our Empire to come and work in Britain and these people have every right to call themselves British. FYI, our country is so lacking in the working classes and young workers that there will not be enough tax revenue available to pay for our retired population (such as my father) as more and more people are living to a ripe old age, thanks to medical advances and healthier lifestyles. From where do you propose we draw young people from to even out our population pyramid and create more tax payers, if not from abroad?
I am sorry, but your attitude IS racist and as self-centred as "charity begins at home" supporters.
I really do hope you are not a politician.
Back to housework.
xx
Wednesday, 22 October 2008 16:57:00 o'clock BST
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Now, child killer lover, take your rant (What do you mean telling Mum21 to think about it? How bloody rude, how dare you? I think Mum has more experience of life than you, you stupid, brainless hypocritical characterless woman. I was tempted to call you a girl, but you are not a girl, you are a grown woman with a family and what kind of example are you setting them?) and throw it at Bum.
Hiya Claudia and All
It is a fact that people with deeply ingrained prejudices fail to see there is anything wrong with their thinking style and Bum certainly demonstrates that, I am not a racist but...! Why does she think she is superior to any other human being and more to the point, why does she think Madeleine's parents are more important than her? Bum's distored thinking is so deeply ingrained she is not going to change, she cannot even appreciate one simple thing, Kate and Gerry are still alive, Madeleine is not! Both of those dogs only found imaginary cadaver evidence on all the McCann property and did not even find that on anyone else's. Silly dogs, they had a conference first to frame Kate and Gerry ! Yes Bum your thinking is very distorted. No matter what parents do to their kids they had the right eh? They are superior to kids, just like you eh?
x
ST, you're translating skills suck. I'll provide a reliable translation for you:
Cláudia said...
4Portugal, aquela gente é nojenta. Estão a borrifar-se para a pobre criança que morreu de fome e preferem ignorar a situação porque isso lhes demonstra como é verdadeiramente o seu 'paraíso'. Um 'paraíso' da treta, na verdade. Cheio de problemas como violência, consumo elevadíssimo de álcool e drogas, incontrolável taxa de gravidez na adolescência e, principalmente e mais preocupante, a desumanização de uma considerável parte da sociedade. Aquela gente é racista e xenófoba e alguns não são melhores do que a escumalha que defendem.
4Portugal, those people are disgusting. They don't give a crap about the poor child who starved to death and they prefer to ignore the situation because it shows them how their 'paradise' really is. A crappy 'paradise', in fact. Full of problems such as violence, very high consumption of alcohol and drugs, uncontrolable teenage pregnancy rates and, most importantly and worrying, the dehumanisation of a considerable part of the society. Those people are racist and xenophobic and some are not better than the scum they defend.
"Those people are racist and xenophobic and some are not better than the scum they defend."
If you had any living brain cell left inside that thick skull of yours, this sentence alone would be enough for you to see who I'm referring to. All the child killer lovers i.e. Poop's gang. Got it?
Claudia
That must be the best from Rosiepoops yet! Criticising her friend. And using so many words to do so. ROTFLMAO!!
I always said she was just a little undereducated ;-)
Viv, Bum is so stupid and blinded by her racism and xenophobia that she doesn't even know that Europe, as a continent, would be literally dead if it weren't for immigrants. Immigrants are the ones ensuring pensions are paid. All over Europe.
"Joana hit with her head in the wall and died instantly there"
I think the Pros should be very careful indeed about wanting to draw parallels between this case and Madeleine's - some of us already see them plain enough!
xxx
But he got taken in by that post from his friend, Claudia. He was really trying to get at Dyl ;-)
Oh, what is Bum going to do now?
Doc, it's hilarious, isn't it? ROTFLMAO!
When I read that, I couldn't stop laughing.
and would the UK be so wealthy and prosperous if we had not imported large numbers of immigrant workers following the second world war to replace the men we had lost!
I could not even begin to say what I think of Bum 21!
xx
Doc, I know he/she/it was. But he/she/it was just too stupid to interpret something which was quite obvious. But I think she was a bit harsh on Bum (not!) LOL
Docmac,
'I always said she was just a little undereducated ;-)'
Hope's rabbits droppings are better educated than she/he/it. Salma is better educated than he/she/it. He/she/it is full of more air than Salma!
Viv, Bum is a genuine racist and xenophobe. Therefore, she is incapable of seeing the reality. Immigrants are currently keeping Europe alive and they are a huge part of the economy. Are there lazy immigrants on benefits? Of course there are. But a lot less than lazy locals on benefits.
Dunno Zodiac
'Salma' is pumped up really hard :-))
"Hope's rabbits droppings are better educated than she/he/it."
LOL
What a big bummer Claudia :-))
Doc, :-))))
Going off now. The doll wants to take the rest of us out for dinner. She's paying too :-)))
I would just like to remind the child killer lovers that João Cipriano had been in jail several times before. One of them for attempted homicide, in 1993, which got him four years in jail.
Rosiepops said...
Hi ST
So is Caludia [sic] saying that Portugal does not have rapidly [sic] rising crime and drug problem [sic] along with a paedophilia problem that is being swept under the carpet? Is she saying that they do not have a problem where the police and judiciary have treated women and children disgracefully, in some cases beating them into submission? Is she saying that this problem is not legally and officially documented and that members of the Portuguese government do not think these problems are bad enough to warrant interference to stop them?
Is Claudia saying that Portugal does not have a problem with street children and child prostitution?
This is exactly the kind of attitude that gets people and countries into trouble. Countries?? No, she is not saying any of the above. You know as well as I do that these problems are much more prevalent in the UK.
The answer lays [sic] with being open about these things and not trying to hush them up as if they do not exist.
The debate is here and it has to be had [sic].
For the sake of everyone [sic], there is no country in the world now that is not afflicted with [sic] the evil of drugs! Portugal is no exception. Oh go on, pick on Portugal then!
It is hard from Claudia's comments [sic] to understand what Claudia is in fact [sic] on about. (Unfortunately not an isolated problem she has) [sic] Insert full stop here.
Is it any surprise we have a rate of teenage pregnancy [sic], when children are allowed to go to their boyfriends [sic] houses and have underage sex? Then when learning this the mother, [sic] instead of doing something about it, [sic] and astonishingly comes on the internet [sic] and starts condemning [sic] other people's parenting skills, while ignoring her own blatant inadequacies in parenting?
This is exactly what my previous post is pointing out. LOLOLOL! Hello, bum. Are you reding this?
The really shocking thing is, while Claudia makes [sic] a post likes [sic] this, she has actively encouraged [sic] the promiscuous irresponsibility of a parent, that could very well lead to a child ending up a teenage [sic] mother! Claudia, along with every single other person that posts on that blog, denounced [sic] their right sic] to pass comment on problems like teenage pregnancies [sic] and other problems like this, [sic] when they condoned the naming of a person's children and their mother [sic] chatting about her own underage [sic] daughter’s sex life on an internet hate blog.
Hypocrisy!...Hypocrisy!...Hypocrisy!
And just where does the xenophobia [sic] and racist comments come in? Who is defending what [sic] scum? Does this stupid person even know what she is talking about?
Thick!...Thick!...Thick!
23 October 2008 15:17
Sorry about all the [sics] Rosie. I just thought they rhymed very well with 'thick'.
BTW, you doos. Did you pick up the deliberate spelling mistake? Nice to see your forum has 'resurrected' Mandz too :-)))
Doc, has the queen child killer lover seen what a stupid creature she is and that while she thought she was jumping on Dylan she was actually attacking Bum because the quote was from Bum the racist? PMSL!
The Cipriano fan is never going to mention that post again.
Doc, it was hilarious. :-)
Even more so than Giliar's thing the other day. I guess. Tough call.
Bum, there are around 500 000 legal immigrants in Portugal. There are officially around 150 000 illegal immigrants in Portugal. Unofficial sources say the number of illegals is at least the double. We have a population of 10 000 000 people. Do the maths.
And no, I don't like lazy people living on benefits if they are able to work. But I dislike them whether they are nationals or immigrants, something you could never undertand because you are intrinsically a racist and a xenophobe. If an immigrant works and pays taxes, then I think that human being has exactly the same rights as a national. If anyone (national or immigrant) is milking the system, then I wish those citizens would be punished, made to work and pay for what they have milked. I don't wish my countrymen and countrywomen to be treated any better or any worse than any immigrant.
That is why I think people who have caused any child to suffer in any way should be punished. Whether they are Portuguese or British. Not that difficult to understand, is it?
Have you explained Poops that you are not 'bloody rude' or a 'stupid, brainless hypocritical characterless woman'? Because she thought YOUR post was Dylan's and jumped on her because of that when, in fact, the post was yours.
Claudia
Bum's made two posts on ST this afternoon and is studiously ignoring the poopster posts. How interesting ;-)))
"Claudia, let's get one thing straight here. I was talking about the UK...not Europe. I don't give a toss how many immigrants the rest of Europe allow into their country."
See, Bum, you can't avoid it. It's inside you. It's just what you are. You live in that small little world of yours which is what makes you so ignorant. We are all world's citizens. Whether you like it or not. Bigots will try to deny this reality but that is everything they have got left.
I don't think your true colours could be shown in a clearer way. Thanks for that sentence. It sums it up pretty well.
Doc, I know! ;-)
Anything goes, uh? :-)
Old triple dot is rather transparently racist, yes.
Doc, you have a way with words. :-)
P/Pops wrote: child ending up a teenage [sic] mother!
Mmm what would happen if. A teenage single mother of 3 children aged 3 and under. Left her children all alone her grey council flat to drink wine and eat with friends in a bar 100mts away. Her teenage single mother friends all leave their children home alone also. The teenage mum leaves her flat at 8pm and when she returns home at 10pm discovers her eldest child is missing. The Police are called. The single mum explains she cannot afford a buggy therefore she felt it was easier to leave the kids home alone. If she had a buggy she might have taken them with her. She also says she is a responsible parent as she checked on her children every 30 mins. She says she follows the McC/Tapas style of parenting. Would Social Services pop round for tea with the teenage single mother? Would Social Services then leave the other children in her care? Would Social Services still leave the other children in her care when it is reported by a neighbour the children were left the night before crying for 1 hour and 15 mins. Left crying and shouting for mummy! Would Social Services leave all the other children in the care of all the other single mums who left their children alone? If not. Why?
Most teenage single mothers probably know how to look after their children better than 2 nearly 40 yr old Doctors, imo!
Zodiac, hear hear!
Rhetorical questions, Zodiac. The poopster would still LIE in response though.
I'm pretty good with a mop too, Claudia. I'm trying to read the instructions to Salma but she doesn't seem to hear or understand them. Should I take her back? :-)))
ST
You are as Spanish as Gordon Brown. The fact that you need google to translate Portuguese to English (and a very poor translation it was) proves it.
Use your favourite tool to translate this:
Vokken poephol.
PS
Even moppers can write 'Afghan', see?
Guys I did you a new thread, hope you like it:-)))
Zodiac that is such a fab post I am copying to the other thread, would not want the Pros to miss it, Hun x
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