4 Oct 2008

POLICE EVENTUALLY GET THERE!

Hi all, I thought you may find this case interesting where the murderer carried out the most horrific attack but the police stated they had a good idea who it was but could not prove it. They had evidence but it was insufficient. A few years after a retrial he was convicted, as you will see when this man attempted to appeal his convictions but sadly not before he had killed again and also attempted to kill his mother.

Are there some parallels to be drawn here, in a way, I think there are!

Viv x


Inquest into decapitation fails to satisfy grieving family
By Steve BogganTuesday, 20 March 2001
For many bereaved families, an inquest, just like a funeral, is part of dealing with the loss of a loved one in tragic circumstances. But for the family of Julian Sanders it has meant that the person who cut off his head while he was still alive may never be punished.
Yesterday, an inquest into Julian's death last May recorded a verdict that he was unlawfully killed. However, the fact that it took place at all was an indication that police efforts to find his killer are at best becalmed, at worst stymied.
Normally, inquests are held in abeyance pending police investigations, but The Independent has learned that Julian's murder file has been put on "cold case review". That means officers will investigate new evidence if it comes in, but they have stopped searching for the perpetrator. They believe they know who killed Julian, but they can't prove it.
Julian, 20, from Shrewsbury, was found dead in a field in Longbridge, Birmingham, 70 miles from his home, on 29 May last year. His head was found a few feet from his body. A post-mortem examination revealed that he had been hit on the back of the head but he was still alive when it was crudely hacked off. Decapitation is not unusual in murder. It is often used as a means of concealing the victim's identity after death. In Julian's case, decapitation was the cause of death.
By all accounts, Julian was a gentle man without any enemies. He was on medication for a mild form of schizophrenia and he had been taking it up to his death. If anything, his family said, the medication made him slightly docile. Early reports in the Birmingham press that he was murdered as part of a drugs turf war were nonsense; he had never been in trouble. Why, therefore, he should come to such a terrible end was something that baffled police.
They soon found out, however, that he had befriended a man - platonically - and they believe that one of that man's friends had taken against Julian. Jealousy, detectives believe, may have been the motive for his murder.
The Independent has been given details of the evidence against the suspect, but it is purely circumstantial. There is no forensic evidence linking the man to Julian's death. The police investigation revolved around a telephone call made by Julian, evidence that the suspect may have a predisposition to violence, and the discovery of Julian's watch in the suspect's home.
The suspect said the watch had broken and Julian had asked him to throw it away. Without forensic evidence, the decision not to prosecute anyone at this stage appears to be correct. But it is a painful decision for Julian's family.
"It is a bad feeling in the gut," said his father, Russell Sanders Royle, 45. "Not only because the police have worked so hard, but also because this person is still out there. He has not paid for my son's death and he could well kill again.
"The past 10 months have been terrible for the family. Julian was a lovely lad and we all miss him so much. Unfortunately, we won't even begin to put this behind us until his killer is caught."
When Julian was murdered, the national media took no interest in the case. Now the family want to concentrate on appealing to the public for the tiniest shred of evidence that might bolster West Midlands Police's chances of a conviction.
It is understood the post-mortem examination revealed that Julian's skin had been hit with water from a high-pressure hose. Detectives believe he was killed and decapitated in an isolated farm or industrial outbuilding, but there are thousands across the county.
"We want anyone who rented or lent an outbuilding out last May bank holiday to tell the police," said Avi Sanders Royle, 49, Julian's stepmother. "There may have been unexplained blood in there or some suspicious characters. Any information, no matter how irrelevant it may seem, could help."
A Home Office pathologist, Dr Edmund Tapp, told the inquest that, mercifully, Julian had not been conscious when his head was removed. But he added: "There was a good deal of blood in the lungs, indicating that the deceased was alive when his head was severed."
Recording a verdict of unlawful killing, the coroner, Dr Richard Whittington, said: "This was a savage assault ... brutal, callous. It must have been in some sense premeditated as somebody was armed with horrible weapons put to terrible use."
Detective Inspector Steve Billingham, second in command of the investigation, said the murder was on "cold case review" but was not formally closed. "We still have officers on hand to receive calls and we will investigate any new information people give us," he said.
For Julian's family, the trauma goes on. Mrs Sanders Royle said the police involved in Julian's case had done a fine job, but she has now lost faith in the justice system.
"I take consolation from the fact that whoever murdered Julian is probably in his own private hell," she said. "If he doesn't get justice in this world, he'll get it in the next."
Last week, The Independent tried to speak to the suspect. He refused to be interviewed about the case, repeatedly replying "No comment" to all questions posed.

and after his conviction, this manipulative liar attempts to appeal and say well I was mad! Yes we know but you are still very dangerous, I hope they never let him out!


THE HON MR JUSTICE GIBBS
MR JUSTICE GIBBS : 1. On 16th October 2003 at the Chester Crown Court Maurice John Latus (“the offender”) was convicted, after a retrial, of the offence of murder. I passed a sentence of life imprisonment upon him for that offence.2. On 19th June 2002 at the same court before Mr Justice Stephen Richards (as he then was) the offender had pleaded guilty to wounding with intent to do grievous bodily harm. Two days later, upon being re-arraigned on a separate charge of murder, he pleaded guilty to manslaughter. He was also tried by a jury on the charge of murder referred to at paragraph 1, but the jury failed to agree. He was convicted of attempted murder in relation to a separate incident.3. Two unsuccessful appeals against conviction for murder were made on the offender's behalf, the later appeal being dismissed by the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division) on 19th December 2006.4. There were three victims of these offences. The victim of the offences of wounding with intent and of murder was Julian Sanders, a work colleague and friend of the offender. The victim of the manslaughter was Colin Faulkes, the offender's landlord. The victim of the attempted murder was the offender's mother. I now set our a brief chronology of events.5. From about 1985, the offender lived in a rural property in Shropshire known as “The Gatehouse” and owned by Faulkes. The offender alleged that Faulkes had physically and sexually abused him over many years, but that he could not leave the house because he had nowhere to go. The offender's relationship with his mother had been difficult. She had married a much younger man, a pupil of hers, in the early 1980s.6. The offender and Sanders worked together from 1997 onwards and became friends. They saw each other frequently. Sanders suffered abused drugs and was admitted to a mental hospital on two occasions with drug-induced psychosis.7. The first of the offences mentioned above, wounding with intent, took place in February 2000. On 29th February 2000, Sanders attended a Shrewsbury hospital with wounds to the back of his head. There was extensive bruising and swelling to the back of his skull. He said he had fallen down a flight of stairs. The inference is that he colluded with and/or was persuaded by the offender to conceal the truth, namely that the offender had assaulted him. In early April 2000 Sanders was again admitted to a mental hospital, where he remained as an in-patient until late May 2000.8. Sanders then went missing. On 27th or 28th May, the offender killed him. He severed his head from his body with an axe or some other heavy implement with a sharp edge. He then took him in a vehicle to a park just south of Birmingham and left the head and body there. A member of the public discovered them as he was walking his dog early one morning. This killing eventually led to the offender's conviction for murder.9. Shortly afterwards, the offender was arrested for the murder, but released. Soon after his release, he killed Faulkes. This led to his plea of guilty to manslaughter on the ground of diminished responsibility. On 12th May, he attempted to kill his mother. His plea of guilty to an offence under S18 of the Offences Against The Person Act in relation to this offence was not accepted, and he was convicted of attempted murder. Both attacks were carried out in a similar way, namely with an axe or some similar weapon.10. It now falls to me to determine the minimum term to be served by the offender, pursuant to Schedule 22 paragraph 6 of the Criminal Justice Act 2003. In setting the appropriate term I must take into account the seriousness of the offence, and in doing so must consider the general principles in Schedule 21 of the 2003 Act. I must have regard to the recommendation which, as trial judge, I made to the Lord Chief Justice, namely sixteen years. Because of the change in procedure at the time, the Lord Chief Justice did not consider the recommendation, and the Home Secretary did not fix a tariff. I must have regard to the guidelines applicable at the time of the offence and must ensure that the term set complies with Article 7 of the European Convention on Human Rights (Schedule 22/8(a)) and the guidance provided by the Consolidated Criminal Practice Direction (29th July 2004) (“the CCPD”) paragraph IV.49, so as to ensure that the sentence does not breach the principle of retroactivity. The CCPD explains the correct approach to looking at the practice of the Home Secretary before December 2002 for the purpose of Schedule 22 of the 2003 Act, in the light of the judgment in R v Sullivan, Gibbs, Elener and Elener (2005) 1 Cr App R 3. I have also had regard to the provisions of section 67 of the Criminal Justice Act 1967 relating to the time spent in custody on remand.11. I have read and considered Victim Impact Statements from the offender's mother; from Russell Sanders Royle, the father of Julian Sanders; and Charles Foulkes, the father of Colin Foulkes. The statement of Mr. Royle is of particular relevance, as his son was the victim of the case I am now considering. I have also considered written representations made on the offender's behalf.12. Under the principles set out in Schedule 21, the starting point for determination of the minimum term is 15 years. Whilst the offence had horrifying aspects, none of the features set out in paragraphs 4(2) or 5(2) of the Schedule were present. Accordingly the 15 year starting point provided by paragraph 6 applies, subject to increase or reduction for aggravating or mitigating features, examples of which were set out.13. Since the murder was committed before 1st June 2002, the appropriate starting point indicated as appropriate by the CCPD in determining the practice of the Secretary of State at the material time is to be assessed by reference to the letter of guidance dated 10th February 1997 sent by Lord Bingham, then Chief Justice, to the judges. This letter provided a starting point for an “average” or “unexceptional” murder of 14 years, but subject to increase or reduction for aggravating or mitigating features, examples of which were set out.14. I considered, when making my recommendation about the minimum term following sentence, the aggravating and mitigating features as they appeared to me at that time. This recommendation was based on the Practice Statement of Lord Woolf, handed down on 31st May 2002. That Practice Statement was formulated in different terms from the guidance in Lord Bingham's letter. The CCPD (which post-dated the sentence) made it clear that the latter rather than the former which applied to the present case. Further, the CCPD provides that I should have regard to the principles in Schedule 21, which was not in force when sentence was passed in this case. Accordingly, whilst keeping in mind my original recommendation, I think it appropriate to consider afresh the length of the minimum term appropriate to the seriousness of the offence.15. As it seems to me, this offence is significantly more serious that the “average” or “unexceptional” murder for which Lord Bingham considered a starting point of 14 years appropriate. Whilst the offender did not have a criminal record for violence, he had quite soon before the murder carried out a very serious and potentially lethal attack on the same victim. As regards the facts of the murder, the precise events leading up to it cannot be fully known. After his conviction and sentence, the offender admitted that he had killed the victim, and gave an account of what happened. The offender's account led to his second unsuccessful appeal against conviction, in which the Court of Appeal was invited to hear fresh evidence from the offender's psychiatrist to show that, had the full facts been known at trial, the offender might have been found not guilty of murder but guilty of manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility.16. The Court of Appeal declined to hear fresh evidence. The Court was presented with the offender's explanations about why the issue of mental illness had not been raised before. The court observed (paragraph 29 of the judgment): “….these explanations demonstrate what the prosecution have fairly described as a deliberate tactical decision not allow the offence of diminished responsibility to be investigated because the appellant believed he had a good chance of acquittal based on his denial of any responsibility. We cannot accept the submission that it was the mental illness which gave rise to these attempts to evade responsibility. Moreover the appellant's conduct after the killing, by way of attempting to dispose of the body and by his persistent denials of involvement tend to confirm the statement he made to Dr Collins that 'he hoped to get away with it'. He persisted in his denial following his arrest for the killing of Faulkes and his “hope” succeeded to the extent of a jury disagreement on the Sanders count at the first trial. The appellant persisted in denying involvement at the time of the retrial at which he was convicted and until his application for leave had been refused.”17. When making my original recommendation, I gave weight to the likelihood that the offender was under the influence of mental illness or of some personality disorder at the time. I am still of that view; but in the light of the subsequent course of events and the conclusions drawn from them by the Court of Appeal, the weight to be given in mitigation to the mental state of the offender is limited. He has shown that he is devious and manipulative. These qualities are reflected in his actions after the killing. I note that, having admitted responsibility for the death of Sanders, the offender denied an intention to kill. On the evidence, I do not regard that denial as credible.18. As regards aggravating features, in my original recommendation I identified the brutal, deliberate and calculated manner of the killing, the previous attack, the planning involved in the disposal of the body and the efforts to conceal the evidence. I would add that, whilst this was not a case of “macabre…dismemberment of the body after death” (an aggravating feature mentioned by Lord Bingham: see CCPD IV.49.19 (11)), the very fact of causing death by decapitation is an especially horrifying feature of the case. This feature is referred to in Mr Royle's victim impact statement.19. Balancing the aggravating and mitigating features against one another, I have concluded that the minimum period to be fixed before the early release provisions are to apply should be 18 years. In my judgment the aggravating features very substantially outweigh the mitigating features. The time spent in custody on remand was 2 years 5 months and 2 days. Pursuant to the 1967 Act, this time must be deducted form the minimum period. Accordingly the minimum period will be fixed at 15 years 6 months and 28 days.20. I would add this. The question of whether, if at all, the offender is ever released, depends not primarily on the seriousness of the offence, but on an assessment long in the future of whether the offender remains dangerous. That will be for others to decide, not me. But when I made my original recommendation, I said: “As a consequence of his personality disorder and/or psychiatric illness the defendant is likely to represent a serious danger for the indefinite future”. I remain of that view. The fact that after this murder, the offender killed another person, and attempted to kill his mother, indicates the extent of that danger. The appellant's mother, one of his victims, remains sympathetic to him; but considers that she would be at risk were he ever released. I consider that she and others would be at serious risk for the foreseeable future.

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ICantThinkOfAName said...

Viv

I don't know if you remember the "Babes In The Wood" murder in Brighton in 1986.

Russell Bishop was put on trial and acquitted as there were problems found with the forensic evidence.

Upon his acquittal the police promptly archived the case.
In 1990 Bishop was found guilty of the abduction, molestation and attempted murder of a seven-year-old girl for which he received a life sentence.

He is one of the longest serving prisoners in Britain not to be serving a sentence for murder, despite the trial judge recommending a minimum term of 14 years which could have seen him out of prison in 2004.

docmac said...

Was out all day and I see Mark took a pasting. And I did not even have anything to do with it!

What I don't get is why he was 'seected' to be fast tracked to be 'taughtt' amongst students who wished to study 'medecine', some of whom might even have wished to become 'patholgists'. The latter were fortunate, as BT Davies 'taughtt the med school'.

His incredible academic record, three appearances on national tv and numerous citations on the internet and in newspapers is indisputable evidence that he is a rich dentist with a medical student son and a daughter who has just been admitted as a dental student.

Rosie and ST also believe him, so please leave him alone, people.

The only thing that made me question the truth is that he claims he made (or was made?) a conditional offer to (by?) the University for gracing them with his super bright presence. But as he says, they were only too happy to take him.

OK, there is just another small thing. The fact that this super bright student now has a 3 year spread bet on when he actually started his studies :-))

LOL!!!

Cláudia said...

"What I don't get is why he was 'seected' to be fast tracked to be 'taughtt' amongst students who wished to study 'medecine', some of whom might even have wished to become 'patholgists'. The latter were fortunate, as BT Davies 'taughtt the med school'."

Doc, ROTFLMAO!

Also loved the three tv appearances! With so much activity, how the hell would he have the time to learn how to spell? PMSL!

viv said...

Hiya ICTOAN One of the simplest things I learned about risk prediction for offenders is to look at their past record, but by record it does not necessarily mean a criminal record! I mentioned on Claudia's blog the other day that all sorts of information is kept about British people by agencies such as Police, Probation, SSD etc in relation to their activities that give cause for concern. This can often be someone who is suspected of crime but there is insufficient evidence to mount a prosecution or a child is so damaged and vulnerable as a result of abuse they could not provide cogent evidence to the court. Contrary to what the Pros try to insist the lack of an actual conviction does not in any way prove that authorities do not consider that individual to be a serious risk as the case you cite clearly demonstrates.

If someone has killed once then clearly they have the potential to do it again, and if someone has once clearly demonstrated that they are abusive and negligent parents who demonstrate little concern or empathy then SSD will clearly have those parents marked as being of potential future risk to children. People who kill and people who sexually abuse children often have the same personality style and MO, an unnatural need to exert power and control over other, hence the two offences are often interlinked. I still have grave concerns about the twins being left in their care!

Doc, I am pleased you felt little Barky was adequately squashed in your absence, but still he rambles on, was there an old Led Zepp song, he will have to check it on wiki and then tell us he remembers!

xxxxx

viv said...

oh bugger or am I thinking of something completely different, Nat King Cole and Guns and Roses
!

Cláudia said...

Viv, :-)

viv said...

oooh I know, Claudia darling

Doc, I was not having false memory images here it is, Led Zepp Rambling on in 1969, now was that Barky Marky's er er pre-med year, sod you Mark I am going to insist on a hyphen there. Which reminds me, I cannot recall anyone in that era, not doing English Language O level and then A level English, had you been around in that era, it could have helped you a lot:-))

Enjoy Doc, still seriously, a cool tune:

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=ssKtIni9adA

Cláudia said...

Viv, aren't you sad you didn study 'medecine'? :-)

docmac said...

You mean like where he got his S-level paper stuff from Viv? One might think if he had written these the info would be in his head, really.

viv said...

Hiya Hun, Well I found the Medici's far more interesting !

Somehow I think Kate and her friends would relate to that too:-))

Doc, What does the S stand for? Now dont tempt me:-))))

docmac said...

Super duper Stupid, Viv.

I have Rambling On on my LedZep Remasters DVD :-)

viv said...

Luke is not a happy bunny, he is preparing the strawberries and cream for us, but I bought them from Sainsbury's instead of Asda, so the box is only half full!!

docmac said...

You have very interesting mail, btw :-)))

Cláudia said...

Doc, I already checked mine. :-)
Could you please keep me updated? :-)

viv said...

Doc, I moved house in about 1990 and unfortunately left all my albums in a cupboard including LZ Vol II sooo you know what to send me for Christmas:-))) Yes hint hint!

Just rip and burn x

viv said...

Wow Doc thanks for my mail, looks like a good read so having got me cup of tea and hopefully with a couple of strawberries real soon will now indulge, back in a bit!

docmac said...

It's strawberry picking season here, Viv :-) We go out to the strawberry farms and pick whatever we like and pay by weight. It's about 1 pound per kilo :-)))

docmac said...

Progress is slow, Claudia.

We opened a bottle of sparkling mineral water :-))

viv said...

Hiya Doc we have similar here, but I have not been for years! Probably about June July though I think, certainly not just now! I do not know whether they would be that cheap now either but they used to be!


My cheeky sister even used to take a pot of cream with her and indulge herself to the full, in the field as it were!

docmac said...

LOL, Viv! That's not cheeky, that's greedy :-)) Can't blame her though!

Cláudia said...

Doc, work, work, work! :-)

docmac said...

Claudia, Driiiink!!

I'm unemployed at the moment, remember ;-)))

Cláudia said...

As long as you work and drink at the same time. ;-)

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Claudia

Benfica took another step towards a Wembley Final having won 2-1 away against a team who are one level higher in the football pyramid.

viv said...

"You have absolutely NO idea what has been going on. I realise that "research" on the forum often constitutes asking Rosie what has happened and then embroidering her "wise" words onto a sampler, but it is hardly objective, is it?"


Well I laughed until I cried and I have just picked meself back up off the floor xxxxxxxxx

Cláudia said...

Thanks for keeping me updated, ICTOAN. Benfica rules! :-)

Viv, :-))))))

viv said...

Claudia Hun

I very nearly choked on me strawberries and cream:-))))

viv said...

Hey Doc

I am "unemployed" too, fantastic!!

xxxxxxx

docmac said...

I particularly liked the bit just before that Viv.

For goodness' sake start thinking for yourselves and stop listening to what Rosie and Co tell you. The rubbish you come out with is absolutely pathetic and it is all in some juvenile attempt to get a cyber pat on the head from your glorious leader.

This blog has nothing to do with Sian turning against the forum - the messages she was receiving telling her that she should not post theories not in sync with the forum party line did that.


Don't agree with you about MM, Sass. But by golly, you have got them well sussed.

Cláudia said...

Doc, don't get me wrong, Sass and I probably agree on nothing, but she always had more brains than all the other combined. And that's obviously why she has been betrayed and backstabbed. The last thing those people can afford to have on that blog is people with IQs above 2.5.

viv said...

Blogger Supertroll says: PS; Defamating, I am so sorry I misspelt that. I am from Spain after all,


I bet you also write the script for Fwalty Towers,

"Maunel, it is a Rat" xxxxxxx

No Mr Fawlty is Hamster...

docmac said...

2.5's a bit harsh, Claudia. That's the IQ of a donkey.

viv said...

Sass loves Docmac xxxxxxxxxx

docmac said...

Viv, I think the inner secrets of the workings of the pink blog have been exposed now. Rosie runs the show, just as he ultimately controls the opinions expressed on ST. As was revealed on another blog, since deleted.

docmac said...

No she doesn't Viv. She has a modicum of sense though!

viv said...

"Please don't let this get to you chick.It will eat away at you and cause the wrong kinds of feelings amongst us all.Im afraid this is the kind of reaction sian and sass want."

Yes, like finally accepting the McCanns are not cute little angels that you can hero worship as your latest favourite telly soap x

viv said...

No but they are very paranoid and Rosie has convinced them that Sass does really love you x

Did he finally consider the big arse shot was just a tad tasteless?

Cláudia said...

The idiots from the pink blog are quite scared of Sass. Why, i wonder.

"No one needs to accept blame, just talk it through, find the misunderstanding, at put it to bed. Then shake hands, and get back to what is supposed to be the most important thing, our support of the McCann family."

viv said...

Maybe they think because she comes from Austria, well apparently anyway, she has a big dungeon?

docmac said...

Viv I have always taken what Rosie says with a handful of salt. The fact that a few deluded souls can't do same when they file their posts is neither here nor there tbh.

docmac said...

"No one needs to accept blame, just talk it through, find the misunderstanding, at put it to bed. Then shake hands, and get back to what is supposed to be the most important thing, our support of the McCann family."

Was that Vee8? Did he cry again?

viv said...

"I have written to Rosie and Tinks and have been ignored - except once where the post came back with the answer UNREAD. The mail offering a truce was also ignored. What do you think I should do? "


Oh Rosie, you old meany, how could you be so cruel when she wanted to be your special friend again, tut, tut! I bet you unread that email just like you unread my blog:-)))

Cláudia said...

Viv, somehow, I think it's a bit more than that. She is obviously a pro. But she isn't a mafia kind of pro. She sussed all the dirty games (some of them which we were aware for quite some time) and probably had the courage to say so. That was her end. No word can ever be spoken which will contradict Poops. Even on ST. And I think some of them still can't believe someone was capable of doing it because the rest follow the leader and shut up. Gossiping is only allowed through PM. That's the only way to contradict the leader. So Sass obviously had to be kicked out of the blog she created herself and lies had to be told so the thickos would buy the story and agree with Poops. They just expected that the thing would die down but forgot that Sass is not one of the thick bimbos who is afraid of Poops.

docmac said...

Isn't it amazing how much info the old sod has about your blog whilst not reading it hey Viv? Sorry to use the word 'whilst' by the way. It's something I learned/learnt at a mop seminar that I attended in Spain. My hotel was right on the Pacific Ocean, I tell ya. Really grand.

viv said...

As they morph sex as well, do you think Clairsey = Barky? Well I mean their writing style, if one could call it that, and their IQ clearky have the requisite markers for a very good match that a judge may well find admissible. Oh Bark and Co, just a little technicality, ruling on the admissibility is the job of a qualified judge so lay off, they will think you are trying to pinch their job and I am sure would feel really threatened with your powerful display of nous and intellect and....(!) I know just sheer legal knowhow!

Serious question!

viv said...

Claudia
Hun,

Poopos has clearly learned his lesson from it and moved on, he no longer employs anything but utter bimbos, if they have English Language O level they can forget it!

The thing is Poopos is now in a quandary, how can you employ thick bimbos and get them to write with any degree of style or indeed conviction, hum now there's a word!

viv said...

Hey Doc

I finally twigged why you were writing in Spanish, for Superpooper!

He is going to Huelva for a special Christmas do and may even be on TV and do a video and everything!

He says he will not go to Portugal, he does not feel comfortable there..

viv said...

clearky - love it, enjoy ST, is it Spanish?

Cláudia said...

Viv, intelligent people are a liability to the pink site. They had one and look what happened. They can't risk such a thing.

docmac said...

I'll drive up from Beja and attend, Viv. I love green and yellow balloons.

Cláudia said...

Doc, LOL

viv said...

Bark says:

"She emailed me a list of all the names of the first year students . Incredible reading . What do you think it showed ?"


As an ex student at University of Birmingham I can say with absolute confidence they have heard of the Data Protection Act, you numpty!

docmac said...

Claudia I think there were about 3. They've all buggered off though.

docmac said...

Yes, Viv

I didn't want to mention that. But now that you have, LOLOLOL!!!

docmac said...

And what do you think it showed? Oh my.

docmac said...

Claudai

Did you notice a day or two back Tinks said that Sass had absolutely nothing to do with setting up the forum? Wonder what she has to say now. The info did not come from me after all ;-)

Found out is what I say. Again. What a bunch of knitters.

Cláudia said...

Doc, yeah. But none as 'dangerous' as Sass...

Cláudia said...

Doc, the house of filth indeed. Fith, filth, filth.

viv said...

Doc, is little Barky on some medication out of Kate McCann's bedside cabinet, I mean he does not seem to have any shame does he, or even know when to shut up!


Thinking of that video, did you notice how they flashed the camera onto one Cuddlecat just lyeing on the floor and then there was another one, stuffed in the cupboard, which of course that gorgeous Eddie found! I believe there are actually three because Kate always had one available to stuff up her nose if there was a camera about. What with having to grab Gerry's hand at the same time that is no mean feat!

viv said...

Claudia

That is one of my favourite little expressions and so apt:

House of Filth, but they have toned it down quite considerably, I wonder why, did it even occur to Rosie that he could fall out with his own shadow!

docmac said...

Claudia

Do you remember a couple of days back Tinks posted that Sass had nothing at all to do with setting up the forum? I wonder what she has to say now.

Bunch of knitters if you ask me.


I'll go with 3 cuddlecats Viv.

docmac said...

See ST's still sweating at the chip fryer. Or hiding, sweating.

viv said...

again thinking of that video, the latest one on your blog Claudia, there is one thing about the McCanns I admit I got seriously wrong.

I did have them down as clean tidy people. I like to think I do not apply stereotypes to people but clearly I did, what with them being doctors. I should have realised they did not fit that stereotype when they admitted they carry rotten meat and dirty nappies in the boot, not even of their own car, but a hired one, crikey what would they put in their own! Or am I assuming they actually respect "things"?

Cláudia said...

Doc, PMSL

Viv, yep, that place was almost as filth as the house of filth!

viv said...

Hiya Doc

Well yes of course there are three Cute Cats, some kindly relative would hardly leave one child out, now would they?

I think it was Rat also produced the photo with Kate dragging one along by its ears, tipping suntan lotion on it etc and Amelie carrying the other one! Then there was the one in the cupboard!

docmac said...

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AGAIN? How many times do you all register to get the numbers up? :-)))))

Cláudia said...

Doc, good catch! LOL
Pathetic!

viv said...

I wonder which Cuddlecat Kate felt had got "really dirty and smelly" and felt compelled to wash. several times?

Now come on don't be a Bark, Viv.

I am sure it was an act of self-love on Kate's behalf

docmac said...

"Forum is locked"

Well, they certainly don't trust their remaining members either, eh?

viv said...

OMG how could they be so pathetic, Modnrodder has been posting for weeks! I suppose they got that email from Rosie! Do you remember how she used to send them one to send to the PJ, I bet they still have a little chuckle! They had just thought of some great new theory implicating Robert Murat, after all that excellant "research" by "Chritobell"

docmac said...

Old triple dot has had a go at Sass though. And virtually accused her of posting on a blog that supports Amaral and the PJ. WTF?

Cláudia said...

Doc, which Forum is locked?

Viv, weeks? Months! LOL

Cláudia said...

Doc, Sass never posted on my blog, as far as I'm aware. Unlike Poops who tried more than once but who never got her posts published. :-)

docmac said...

That Christobell has all but disappeared too Viv. Remember all the research she did to try to pin it on JWs and Michaela?

Still wondering where M7 is too.

docmac said...

Pink forum, Claudia. Tails between the legs time.

docmac said...

Viv, does McD stay open later on a Saturday than most other nights there? ST's still frying :-)

Cláudia said...

Doc, You'll have mail in a few seconds.

viv said...

Lolo Claudia Poops kept trying to post on your blog, that is the sad thing about making it members only, I used to really enjoy deleting his posts everytime he could bear it no longer and barged in with one of his ridiculous rants! Just to think of his venom spitting rage! Great fun!

Doc, The Pink Sewer is not closed, but this shows the mentality only too clearly I think, no one who "supports" Kate and Gerry McCann would actually be allowed to say what they really think or just be me, that is what happens "Tinks" when you sell your soul! It is really odd to read all those posts on there where they clearly have worldwar three erupting between themselves, no wonder they are leaving us alone a bit more, is this a snapshot of what is really happening inside Team McCann, sheer rage and panic! You know sod off or something even worse, Clarence you are a useless, t)s&er:-)) Could have told you that 18 months ago GeZ:-))))

"I hope you do not mind me writing this, this has been written as Tinkerbell43 not part of Admin and I know Admin will understand, as for once I wanted to just be me."

docmac said...

Replied.

docmac said...

Viv, a forwarded explanatory e-mail is in your inbox.

Cláudia said...

Doc, I replied too.

Viv, as I have moderation on, I just had to click the delete button everytime I saw Poops.

Cláudia said...

Doc, replied.

Cláudia said...

Doc and Viv, you both got mail.

docmac said...

Not Poops, Claudia. Atticus Finch, no less :-)))

Cláudia said...

Doc, LOL
Mail.

viv said...

Sorry guys I have just been washing all my summer clothes and tumbling so they are nice and fresh for my hols. It has taken several loads so half will go in Luke's case:-)) Then their is my moisture cream and make up! Dont even think about commenting on that Troll, you leave yourself wide open:-)))

OK mail

Yes I know Atticus Finch what name eh! Very feminine!

xx

docmac said...

Sass! You go girl :-)))))

Still don't agree with you but give them idiots hell!!!

Cláudia said...

Doc, I'll e-mail you in a minute.

viv said...

Well they seem to have learned by some of their mistakes, at least Clarence and the Gruesome twosome did not start demanding a Kate oops a mean a cut for the Find Maddie Fiddle, that really was not clever Clarence, you know that acting agency any proceeds from get Maddie lookalikes to play Maddie, God help them!

MCCANNS’ ANGER AT MADDIE VIDEO
by WhyMadeleine on Fri Oct 03, 2008 1:41 am

MADELEINE McCann’s parents yesterday slammed a top-selling video game which has a missing character called Maddie.



Kate and Gerry McCann were horrified to discover ads for a new episode of arcade smash Halo 3 feature the line: “Maddie, where are you?”

The couple – whose daughter vanished from their Portuguese holiday apartment in May last year – branded it “deeply offensive and upsetting” and in “extremely poor taste’’.

They want the message removing from the ads worldwide and the missing character renamed by the time the game is released.

Angry bloggers blitzed websites, accusing the game’s makers of mocking the hunt for five-year-old Madeleine after seeing the message on a promotional trailer for the game.

Halo 3 became the fastest-selling game in history when £90million worth were snapped up in 24 hours following its release.

More than 20m copies of the science fiction trilogy have now been sold worldwide.

GP Kate and heart consultant Gerry, both 40, are demanding to know why the US-based makers Bungie appear to be cashing in on their daughter’s plight.

The couple’s spokesman Clarence Mitchell told the Daily Star: “If this was an intentional reference to Madeleine it was clearly in extremely poor taste.

“We would urge the company to rectify it immediately.’’

A spokesman for Bungie apologised and said: “This is an unfortunate coincidence. There is no connection between Bungie’s game and the girl’s tragic disappearance.”


http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/53146/McCanns-anger-at-Maddie-video-/

viv said...

A word of caution Sass, that article is not by you is it!

Cláudia said...

Viv, already making me jealous. Summer holidays seem like a century ago. :-)

viv said...

ST : "She even said she had gone to the police, but wouldn't give any details when I asked her for a crime reference number to sort this out."

I DID go to the police about you, and as for providing you with a copy of the crime reference number, that would be a bit like Goncalo Amaral or Stuart Prior telling Kate and Gez everything they know! Kate and Gerry even went to court to demand details of the evidence against them and had to back down with a flea in their ear, I think you got the same!

docmac said...

They never called her Maddie, Viv. What's the complaint? Maddie is not an uncommon name, even here. Do they intend to ban anyone ever naming their daughter with that name again too? Jesus, man! Who do they think they are?

Cláudia said...

My dear friends, time to go to bed.
Beijinhos e durmam bem.
xxxx

docmac said...

What, is ST back from evening shift now? Did he have a shower?

docmac said...

Beijos, Claudia. Dorme bem.

Cláudia said...

Doc, maybe not yet. :-)
Beijinhos. Dorme bem.

viv said...

Well there are some very shocking things on Sass's blog that in no way IMO help to exonerate Kate and Gerry McCann if that is her aim: The interview where the reporter Sandra asks Kate and Gerry why they just went and left them again given Maddie told them about crying is absolutely dreadful too, totally shocking! How on earth does she think this would convince people Madeleine was abducted.

http://madeleine-icon-for-m.forumandco.com/forum.htm

Hill admitted to killing Naomi on November 26 last year at the family home in Goya Close, Connah's Quay.

A tape recording of her police interview was played to the court, in which Hill recounted in detail how she drowned her daughter in the family bath.

She then took Naomi's body, dressed her in blue denim dungarees and a pink and yellow top, before putting her in the family car.

Hill, who had been drinking wine all afternoon, then drove around between Deeside and Chester for eight hours.

She stopped to drink wine she had bought along with her, buy another bottle and get petrol - as her dead daughter remained in the back seat.

The court viewed CCTV footage of Hill going into a garage at 11.35pm after filling up with petrol.

At about 3.30am Hill arrived at the Countess of Chester hospital drunk and cradling Naomi in her arms.

She asked medical staff: "Will somebody help me. I think she's dead."

docmac said...

Viv

The chip guy is back. And he wants to engage you in coversation.

See you later. Got an early start.

xx

viv said...

Nite Doc and Claudia

I will go and have a look but obviously the police advice and my own professional training would tell me I do not engage in chat with someone who stalks me!

viv said...

Oh back to demanding the crime reference number, not that he wants my personal details of course, no of course not ST, no more than you wanted Ratonthebeams's.

You are a sickening stalker who begs people to email you so that you can pry further into people's lives, everyone knows that. You may have modified some of your more extreme comments but we have all read them! You are the one that searches the internet for every piece of filth you can find, stay where you belong with your sick thoughts and pictures to go with them!

docmac said...

OK, missed the n in conversation. I'll answer the winker..

04 October 2008 21:30
Blogger supertroll said...

viv said...
ST : "She even said she had gone to the police, but wouldn't give any details when I asked her for a crime reference number to sort this out."

I DID go to the police about you, and as for providing you with a copy of the crime reference number, that would be a bit like Goncalo Amaral or Stuart Prior telling Kate and Gez everything they know! Kate and Gerry even went to court to demand details of the evidence against them and had to back down with a flea in their ear, I think you got the same!

Sunday, 5 October 2008 01:39:00 o'clock BST

No Viv, it is something completely different.

I could have contacted the officer in charge and given him my side of the story. Surely if you did report me to the police they would have wanted to talk to me at some stage, so by contacting them I was saving everyone time. They wouldn't have provided me any details about your identity (in reference to your last excuse). You made some unfounded accusations about me and I deserved the chance to defend myself, it seems to me that you are becoming a bit too fond of Amaral's procedures.

Anyway, another poster actually checked
yeah right :-) and the police had never heard of you or your reporting. You did seem to get confused at one time about who you had actually reported, never mind, I am pretty sure the police deal with plenty of nutters and fantasists and know what to do with people like you.

You made it all up to threaten me and now you are trying to cover up your lies and trying to sound clever.
Actually, I was consulted. And it's all true :-))

BTW, you can make the most over the fallout with Sass, I guess you are entitled to one victory. After all we have been laughing non-stop these last months over the hundred or so people who have deserted you and publicly (and privately) Oh? :-))) denounced you as a bully and a fraud.

ST

PS, how is Leigh?
Banned. Never denounced Viv as a fraud though.
How is 2345? Dunno
How is Bianca? Ditto
Where is CT1438? Er, think you've got your numbers mixed up there, pal.
Ultraviolet? Cough cough cough cough
Why do LGC, Rat, Librarising, Dove, Joe, Isis, Plainwaters prefer the 3A's to yours and only pop in when there is trouble on their sites? Still spluttering. Cough, cough, cough etc.
Merc?
Lizzie?
Dolores?
Stonemaid?
Gina?
Swedishmum?

You know where Gina is. I'm quite sure the rest are enjoying their children and grandchildren and celebrating their lives in their own way. And still supporting Maddie.

And many many more... Names please.

Even your regular pervert prefers posting elsewhere and only ever comes when he gets into trouble for his paedo posts. Name please. Not sure who that is aimed at but it is a quite disgusting suggestion.

05 October 2008 02:04

viv said...

Hiya Doc

I think his "mole" that he sent to pry further into our blog did not serve him too well:-)))

Decent people are free to post on this blog whenever they choose Troll, and any other blog they choose, unlike you I do not try to control or tell people what they must do with their time. But of course people like you are not welcome, I think you need to accept you are just not wanted. If you have a long hard look at your blog where all you ever do is obsess about me, Doc, Claudia etc you may understand why. How many thousand times have you pronounced Doc is not a doctor and why should it matter to you what our professions are anyway, because you are one sad, boring, jealous, obsessive little person, that is why!

I understand the Police make you just a little paranoid, only you can change that!

xxx

hope4truth said...

I think the British Police in general do a really good job. They have so many resoruces at their fingertips for tracing people...

So I dont understand why ST needed a police crime ref number "To clear things up" ???

I was accused by Ass of outing her/him a while ago and they said they had been to the police. My only thought was oh good then they will know it is not me what done it guv...

I did not need the crime ref number was not intrested in which police station they had visited and did not expect a knock on my door by the boys in blue at anytime then or in the future as I knew I had not done what I was being accused of...

Not only do I not know how to do this (I bet Mum does but I am sure if I was sad enough I could do a little research and learn very quickly) but had no reason whatsoever to do it...

Reading back on last nights posts about Sass what struck me was she was obviously bullied off banned from her own site (I read it when it first started and def said something like a blog set up by sass and I think Tinkerbell)and what are we always being told???

"Viv is a bully what does she have on you dont be frightend we will help you come away now."

So obviously they think this site is run on fear and we have to stay or something bad will happen???

Funny really as it looks like that is exactly how thier site is run all I can say now is "Dont judge us by your own standards"...

Gina left and nothing bad has happend to her (except maybe she has caught the virus from mum writing dreadful poerty) I think my line was Hope we will throw you a rope and to be honest if I had read much more would have welcomed the rope to end my missery of having to read it.

I will post wherever I damn well please (as long as the site wants me to) if I get fed up I will stop when I have things to do I wont post...

I dont post as often as I used to as there is not much going on at the moment Madeleine is still missing and if killed in a certain way I do worry about the twins. Gerry and Kate have been given every oportunity to clear their names but wont do so???

So tough luck if you think they are saints because the way they have behaved has been discusting. If they have nothing to hide why did Kate refuse to answer the questions (poor Kate she thought Gerry would do the same he has made her look even worse than he is)..

When a child is missing it does not matter what dirty laundry is aired if you have to go to jail for the neglect as long as everyone is 100% sure that the child is really missing.

Anyone who can think of a single question they would not answer if their child was missing belived to be with a peadophile ring should call Social Services today as you are not fit to be a parent and your children deserve so much more than you can offer them.

hope4truth said...

Hello ALL

Just read the below on the BBC News website and wish that more parents were like this Mother...

After keeping her daughters away from other children doing drugs her childen were bullied and bricks were thrown through her window... It took her a year to get help from the police and finaly moved them.

What is very sad is the fact this Mother did the right thing for her children yet all the bullies who will never amount to anything have pathetic parents who will do anything for an easy life (heaven forbid teaching their children right from wrong) even though it means they will end up in jail or dead..

This Mother deserves all the support she can get any child who is not loved by their parents is missing out and sadly it gets passed down to the next generation. If we want Britain to be Great then something needs to be done to stop parents abusing their children by not teaching them Values and not giving a toss about them..


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7650970.stm

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Hello Hope

The terrible thing is that when people are bothered like this without Police action, the Police are around in a flash if the victim takes the law into his/her own hands. I have seen so many reports of this happening. I think I posted such a case on this blog some time ago.

How is the weather in the Mid-West.
It's stair rods here at times.

docmac said...

Anonymous said...

Vile, Clawsie & Notdoc are busy tonight condemning the pink blog of having posters with low IQs!!

Shall we do a simple test and see who comes ahead? Vile, Clawsie and Notdoc, I promise the questions will not be hard! (even one of you should be able to give the right answer)....

1) What blog swore that the PJ's had loads of evidence against
Kate and Gerry?

Even if they were pyjamas it would still be PJs.

2) What blog swore the PJ's would never close this case?
Blogs don't swear. And the case is not closed.

3) And if one wanted a giggle, what blog could we go to read all about Gonc's powers as a
SEXY??? symbol.

Are you Borat?

4) Who kept saying they could feel a tsunami coming in this
case?

The tsunami never arrived? Would David Payne agree?

Yes, Viles it is your little blog - where I suspect that when God said 'brains' you thought he said trains and ignored him. It shows.

Your blog must rate high in hatred and anger and and very low when it comes to brainpower.... You've gotten so many (scratch that - you've gotten everything wrong).....

Blogs don't have brains. Neither, it would appear, do you.


Beach braai time :-))

05 October 2008 04:40

Cláudia said...

Hope, that is an example of a great mother!

Doc, ROTFLMAO!

hope4truth said...

ICTOAN / Claudia

Yes a wonderful Mother and I hope she gets the assistance she needs to help other parents take their children back from the street and lead a normal happy life...

ICTOAN you are right about the victims of crime getting a raw deal it is all about the human rights of those who want to break the law xxx

Cláudia said...

Hope, that mother would deserve a fund and the backing of rich supporters. She might have saved her daughters' lives and she could help keep other children and teenagers safe from drugs.

hope4truth said...

I have some questions for Annon

What kind of parents go to the bar and leave 3 children aged 3 and under home alone night after night?

What kind of parents on the anniversary of thier daughters birthday whoop it up with smiles of pure joy?

What kind of Mother refuses to answer a single question when her child is missing?

What kind of Father forgets his childs name and calls her Margaret whilst being interviewed with questions he himself has pre approved?

What kind of Father blogs about jogging times and who he has met day after day with hardly a word for his beautiful daughter?

What kind of people say she is in the hands of an evil peadophile ring and then say they dont belive she has come to any harm?

You see annon it is not about point scoring I could go on all day long with things that the McCann's got so wrong even their own documentry made them look very uncaring and the apartment futher away than I ever thought.

This is about a 3 year old child who after being neglected and dumped in a creche all day long is missing more than likely dead. But you dont care about her do you all you care about is trying to prove her parents innocence.

Kate and Gerry are at home fed and warm doing what they want to do the fact that many people think they are scum and probebly guilty in at least coverning up Madeleines death if not worse should not matter to them all that matters is their daughter is rescued.

They have paid thousands of pounds of other peoples money on a fraud investigation firm to try and find her a company that has never looked for a child before dont you find that strange? There must be 100s of profesionals out there they could have chosen but they go for the fraud firm????

Madeleine McCann is the only victim here we dont matter her parents dont matter and you dont matter if you need to hold a prayer meeting hold it for her because if her parents are not lying she is in hell right now and needs all the prayers she can get. If her parents really belive she was abducted they have done everything in their power not to help find her...

hope4truth said...

Claudia

If the government spent a bit of cash on this ladies campaing they would get it back a thousand times in less crime.

I just dont understand why parents dont see the joy their children can bring to them???

xxx

Cláudia said...

Hope, you're absolutely right.

Oh my, it seems Sass is now worse than the anti christ!

hope4truth said...

Hi Claudia

What did Sass do wrong exactly???

I dont get it she belives the McCann's are innocent as she has every right to do we all have diffrent opinions..

???

xxx

Cláudia said...

Yes, well she does. And although she couldn't be more wrong, she made the ultimate mistake. She had the audacity to defy the queen bee. Anyone doing that has to be 'eliminated'. I still feel exactly the same about Sass regarding the McCann case. I just respect her more because she was the only one who had the courage to PUBLICLY confront Rosie. There are others who do it. But they do it anonymously. Through personal messages, e-mails and comments on blogs which they beg not to be published. And people who are honest and decent don't break their promises.

viv said...

Hiya All

Hope thanks for some fantastic posts as ever which are always a pleasure to read!


Viv x

bath theory said...

Such a shame Maddie is not watching 'Chitty Chitty bang bang' this afternoon.

To answer why we have to ask Gerry & Kate. For sure they know and yet they won't answer why.

Instead they want us to believe a prepared script that a childsnatcher similar to that found in Chitty has taken Maddie and amazingly the parents will fly to this magic land and bring her home without so much as a mark on her body.

Absolute b**lsh*t and the british public see through it. But politicians and faceless bureaucrats put hurdles in the way to save their bruised egos and shallow judgements. Can't have the Primwe Minister's useless judgement and contact system being shown up or negatively disturbed can we?

But, just like Chitty Chitty Bang Bang the parents have flown away in a car haven't they? But in this real story they did it just after remaining silent to police questions that just wanted to ask 'specific' questions to see if they really did know more than they wanted us to think.

And before they ran away they did fly to see the Pope and to see the President's wife but they could not be bothered to fly to any of the hot 'leads' that may have led them to finding their so called 'lost' daughter. What sort of parents would ever do that you may well ask. More than a tad strange.

It just makes this country a laughable joke to anyone in the world who cares about the young and vulnerable who at that age rely 100 per cent on the character, care and sacrifice of their parents.

Poor Madeleine. Same old story , rich house from the outside, manufactured lifestyle hiding all sorts of emotional gremlins behind the brickwork.

JFM
GCHQ - You must have phone call intercepts, can't they be mysteriously found by a member of the public who wants Madeleine to have a voice

hope4truth said...

Claudia

So did she ask RP on the blog questions she should not have???

I know you know more than me about what is going on and I have tried in the past to keep an open mind but once the police files were made public and the evidence of the dog's alone is enough to convince me she is dead.

Maybe other people are comming to the same conclusion but dont want to say it out loud?

Two little girls Holly and Jessica were murdered here by Ian Huntley a few years ago and as the days went by I was convinced they were still alive and when SKY said they had arrested someone on suspicion of Murder I cried and cried for those angels...

So with the hope that Madeleine may be alive after all this time it must be hard to let the hope fade...

xx

hope4truth said...

Hi Viv

How long till Egypt??? xxx

Cláudia said...

Hope, I remember the Holly and Jessica case. It's was big here in Portugal. Opening news, just like Mari Luz case and Amy Fitzpatrick.
Apparently Sass committed the terrible crime of thinking for herself and of not approving Rosie's gang dirty games. I believe she still feels the same about the McCann case.

Cláudia said...

Viv, getting ready to have a blast? :-)

hope4truth said...

Claudia

Free thinking is not allowed there I suppose...

Well I hope she is not having a hard time...

xxx

Cláudia said...

Hope, let's say that she's being treated worse than us, which goes to show you the kind of people they truly are. She's Ass ache now...

hope4truth said...

Well screw the lot of them not an ounce of compasion between them for Madeleine or anyone who dares to question what they want said..

Sass if you are reading we all have our own views and at the heart of it all is a little girl. whatever you belive is your right it does not make you a bad person and I am not a bad person for not beliveing the McCann's version of events...

If Madeleine turned up alive and well tomorrow I would be filled with Joy my view towards her parents would not change a great deal as I think they have not helped the investigaiton at all and I cant imagine ever smiling again if anything happend to my children especialy a few days after I thought she was in the hands of peadophiles on what would have been her birthday and I would certainly have answered every question put to me.

I cant imagine how Madeleine would feel if god forbid she saw the happy shots of her parents I would imagine she would be devestated...

Anyhow I am not trying to convert you or push my views as one human being to another I wish you well dont waste any energy getting angry they are not worth it be thankful you have your own mind and opinions and are not afraid of bully's...

Take Care Love Hope x

Cláudia said...

Just wanted to make something absolutely clear. Sass HAS NEVER posted on my blog, as far as I'm aware, despite what she is being accused of.
Others have, however.

ratonthebeam said...

Anyone heard from Sass recently? She was the only one of them that I ever had any respect for at all.

hope4truth said...

Claudia

That is the thing with cowards they will post as they are worried then slate someone else with no proof that they did so they dont get caught by the Bully...

docmac said...

Bum

I am not the only person connected to the internet in SA :-))

And I NEVER connect to your stupid little forum without using a proxy anyway. Would you care to publish another silly little map showing me my current 'location'? Clue, it's in Illinois.

Well done on getting another visitor from SA though. You must be bursting with pride. Oh, the fame!! :-)))))

Cláudia said...

Oh dear anon from the shit hole, Sass did not post that on my blog. How do I know, do you ask, if it was an anonymous who posted it? Of course that my first instinct was to think it could be Sass, although there was something telling me she wouldn't (exactly because she always disliked me so much and vice versa) Well, dear thicko, software, unlike you, doesn't lie. And it wasn't her. Very far from it. But you would be surprised to know who it was. Closer to home, darling, so much closer to home... ;-)

Cláudia said...

Hi, Doc.
Footie's on again. Which reminds me of the time on DE Sass wished the ball would come through the TV and hit me in my head! ROTFLMAO!
Be back in about 45. :-)

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Doc

I'm sure Mum21 knows all about Wittering.

Cláudia said...

Wow, ST's pissed.
And it has reasons to be. Once they will find that it wasn't Sass posting on my blog (or leaving comments there I didn't publish, or sending e-mails), they'll be a lot more pissed off.
Sass, let's be honest, I can't stand you and you can't stand me. But I know it wasn't you. Why is that? Because I think you're incapable of such? Hell, no. I don't know you. Because technology, like Eddie and Keela, doesn't lie.

docmac said...

Sass put up a new post on her blog today and expanded on yesterday's post. I think I can safely say that we would also believe her version of events ahead of Rosie's!

BTW Hope and Zodiac you get honourable mentions.

docmac said...

ICTOAN, for sure.

Claudia, enjoy the football. My team today came back from a 2-0 half time deficit to beat the world's richest club :-)

Zodiac said...

Hi all,

I still cannot believe that post yesterday from barkingmad.

'half a dozen super bright students were selected for fast tracking'

I am sure you must have been fantasising as you and your other 5classmates were going to remedial class that day! Poor soul I pity you now.

Zodiac said...

Sassy,

If you are reading I am sorry that the people who you thought respected you have treated you badly. You and I will probably never agree regarding this case however my thoughts are with you and I am sending you good wishes and hope you are well.

Zodiac x.

Zodiac said...

BBFN read you all tomorrow.

docmac said...

BTW, why is Rosiepops whingeing about his e-mail address being posted? He published it himself on many occasions. Beginning in the DX. In February.

Cláudia said...

Doc, are you talking about that atticus finch thing? I thought Poops was complaining about a private e-mail address. That pathetic thing has on Poops' profile on DE! PMSL!

hope4truth said...

Where is Sassy's web site...???

Claudia I know I should not laugh but that football comming through the screen and hitting you on the head I wish I had thought of a one liner like that LOL (obviously not aimed at your head)xxx

Cláudia said...

Hope, it shows Sass's love for me. I almost got emotional! :-)


http://madblogforum.blogspot.com/

bath theory said...

Doc
If you use www.justin.tv you can watch football for free on the internet.

Cláudia said...

Hey, Bum, if you think it's the 'blog' you're even thicker than I know you are. You would be surprised to know the people you call friends. You should thank Sass. She has done it publicly and for all to see.

Cláudia said...

"Anonymous said...
Hey, Clawsie - went to visit your blog. Have you now taken up writing to and responding to yourself? That is NOT a good sign, hun."

You're right about something. Lately, the comments I haven't published are a hell lot more interesting and 'different' than the ones I have been publishing.
:-)

hope4truth said...

Thanks Claudia

I could only see the front page is there more???

I wonder who the mole in the hole is on the girly gang site??? I wonder who the mole in the hole is here (if we have one) maybe it is a double agent who is writing a book on the two sides of blogging for Madeleine???

It comes to something when a site you set up turns against you and you have to blog to show the idiots it wasnt you...

Take care Sass no point worrying about people who will not listen to you...

docmac said...

I do use justin, BT. And not just for football. Thanks though :-)

Claudia yes the atticusfinch one.

I see all hell is breaking loose re Sass now :-)))) And Rosie's denying that he sets the editorial policies on the pink forum. It's really quite comical.

Cláudia said...

Hope, that's only it, I believe.
Anything is possible...

Doc, comical is an understatement. The queen bee and ST are just like alledgedly G said he was. Remember?

docmac said...

Oh, you only had a football to deal with Claudia? I had this, and it was not the only threat from this model of Scottish society:

JANEGT said...
Mum21

I rest my case.

with a bomb in it.

on doc's head.



B A N G


well we won't hear from doc again.

;o))))


12 March 2008 23:00

Guess it had a wet fuse then :-)))

hope4truth said...

Claudia

The queen bee and ST are just like alledgedly G said he was. Remember

????????

How can you stand all those bloody angels and flowers xxx

Cláudia said...

"As Claudia said, we will never agree with each other, we don't like each other and it wasn't me trying to post a comment on the Proud of the PJ Blog either. I went there once out of curiousity - as I'm sure many did at the beginning. If I had been there more than that, you would have seen the Austrian flag on the Feedjit when you yourself were trying to get your comments published on that very blog."


Can confirm it all. Sass, I don't agree with you (probably never will unless you change your mind and I think that things may happen in the future that may do that to you and many others but that's another issue), I still don't like you (I think that's pretty obvious) and I KNOW FOR A FACT that it wasn't you who posted/posts on my blog. There is better software than Feedjit btw.
One thing I'll give you though is that you are the only one straightforward enough to say out loud what others are doing anonymously and trying to blame you for. As I'm sure you know a lot better than I do, they have to look a lot closer to home. It's like cheese: full of holes. And the only reason why that isn't public is because you are not the type of person they say you are. If you were, man...

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Are Rosiepops and Chinadoll the only STAR posters on Rosie's blog?

I'm surprised that RP hasn't initiated a Super Star category reserved for herself exclusively.

Cláudia said...

Hope, f***ed! :-)

Doc, yeah, but the bottle lady doesn't count. Come on... Driiiink!

Cláudia said...

ICTOAN, it would be too obvious. It can be arranged for her and an alter ego, though! :-)

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Claudia

Doppelgangers?

Cláudia said...

Bum, trust no one.
I can only guarantee you I did not have any contact whatsoever with Sass, by e-mail or on my blog. I'm sure believing it was Sass would be very convenient for you for several reasons. But it wasn't. I really don't give a damn if you believe me or not. Especially because sooner or later, you will have the confirmation.

Cláudia said...

ICTOAN, would it surprise you?

docmac said...

Well, there we have it.

Bum says Sassy is lying about what happened on the pink forum. Guess I had it totally wrong then :-)))

Cláudia said...

Doc, sure.
Especially because Poops was never known to be a liar! ROTFLMAO!

hope4truth said...

Hope, f***ed! :-)

????

Not since this morning...

Or do you mean them????

xxx

Cláudia said...

"Claudia, it freaks me out to have to say this, but you are right ( "... they have to look a lot closer to home."). I sent out one e-mail with a link in it and it did the rounds - I could see who told whom. Some surprising results there and I could see how a couple of you got the link, too."

Sass, I'm sorry but this is bloody funny! And freaky!
As I'm sure you already realised you are being set up. Someone, from what I gather probably more than one person, is doing anonymously what you are doing publicly (trying to let the truth be known), but blaming you for it. The question is that that person, most likely people seem to be trusted by the 'others'. At least for now.
From what I gather that person/people hate Poops and ST, although they are 'pros'. Long before this happened I got unpublished anonymous comments on my blog saying that although they were 'pros' they were scared of Rosie and ST. I guess that person/people now saw the perfect chance to get even blaming someone else. You.

Cláudia said...

Hope, I mean them! LOL

Cláudia said...

The only inhabitant from the pink sewer who tried to post on my blog under its real nick was Poops. Obviously many others have tried, but the coward way: anonymously. That is for you, Bum. I think you are a bitter, twisted, racist hag. But I wouldn't accuse you of doing something I wasn't sure you did. Now get this into your thick skull, Sass did not contact me. Never.

docmac said...

I'm not scared of Poops or ST Claudia :-)) I just see them for what they are. A hired gun and a lunatic.

See the original poster from Portugal was banned too. Seems they're happy enough with the poster originally known as mariaportugal now.

Oh, it must be hell to be a pro and cross Poops :-)))

Cláudia said...

Doc, I know you're not. To be honest, no sane people is afraid of them. But remember that the people who told me that are people who are 'pros', who generally agree with their vision of the case, but who said are afraid of saying anything that would upset the queen bee.

Who was banned? Please, share.

hope4truth said...

Claudia

Oh right :o)

xxx

docmac said...

Helenm.

And the attacks on her have already started on ST too. LOL!

Cláudia said...

Doc, of course.
'If you're not with me, you're against me' is the motto. Anyone not bashing Sass is an enemy. Predictable.

To be honest, for the first time I wish I would be in personal contac with Sass, like they think we are. I would like to tell her at least one thing privately.

docmac said...

OK, but don't share that with me please.

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Where did I see this?

"If any of the issues raised in this blog have affected you, and if you feel the need to talk about them in private, you are very welcome to contact me via email. My email is available by clicking on my profile.
All email correspondence will be treated in the strictest confidence. I am not here to start blog wars, or to expose real persons. I don't belong to any side either.
This blog is simply here to try and stop some of the bullying that is going on, and also to stop some of the sickening things that are posted everyday using as an excuse a beautiful little girl."

docmac said...

ICTOAN

What a hypocrite, eh? It's never been in doubt though.

hope4truth said...

If I were being insulted and lies were being printed about me then I would leave the site as well...

It would not make me change my mind and sudenly start posting with the pros. Hell I may set up my own page to give my side but not to change what I believe...

Sass is still a pro and all speed to her RP is lucky Sass has the courage to stand by what she believes or god knows what damage she could do...

I think because she is sure of her own mind though she wont do anything to damage what she believes in...

docmac said...

There are many comments on ST's where I think to myself that should the person writing these remarks ever go senile, noone will actually notice and Mum21, your post about Viv and me skipping off into the sunset to spend her money comes in this category.

For once I agree with Sass.

Cláudia said...

ICTOAN, incredible, isn't it?

Cláudia said...

Doc, it's freaky, but I could have written that. With some insults in between, that is. LOL

docmac said...

Didn't please this person Claudia.

Mum21 said...

Sass said...There are many comments on ST's where I think to myself that should the person writing these remarks ever go senile, noone will actually notice and Mum21, your post about Viv and me skipping off into the sunset to spend her money comes in this category.


Excuse me...I think you have your posters mixed up here.
That is twice you have done that to me now.

05 October 2008 23:30

Cláudia said...

Bum, I'm no mind reader. But somehow I think you could be surprised. Over time, there were several people commenting on my blog, asking me not to publish and saying different things. And it started almost since I set up my blog.

Cláudia said...

Doc, :-)

docmac said...

Anonymous said...

Sass you need to get over the "it was MY forum" it wasn't yours, it was everyones. Yes you done the main setting up, afterall there is only one person that can click the buttons but it was in consultation with myself and Rosie.

I dont refer to it as my forum, in fact I used to laugh because when anyone referred to it, it was either yours or Rosies. Its no big deal is it, get over it.

Tinks.

05 October 2008 23:37



Eh? But were you not berating me just a few days ago for suggesting that Sass had a big hand in setting up the forum? Oh dear :-))) More lies then.

hope4truth said...

Bloody Hell

I was wrong about Tinks then she is a first class BITCH her and Sas seemed to get on well...

Would she sell her soul to the devil to get a pat on the head from RP??

Oh well I cant be right about everyone...

docmac said...

Hope

Tinks stinks.

hope4truth said...

Do you think they are all the same posters from the DX or as they moved on they kept the usernames and changed the posters...

Maybe it is just RP and Sass and RP is playing everyone elses part???

No ok I was wrong about her then I will get over it LOL x

Cláudia said...

Doc, those people tell so many lies that 24 hours later, they can't remember what they have said.

Cláudia said...

Doc, I can even understand how they could imagine that Sass could have contacted me (I have a contact e-mail address in big letters on my blog). But where the hell came the idea that she was 'working' with you? Are these people all following the bottle lady's path?

docmac said...

Nah, they're all the same people. One can spot it in the grammar, punctuation and syntax. That's something they don't like about me. Especially when they try to post as 'Anonymous' :-))

Claudia, was it just YESTERDAY she was telling me I was a liar? It seems like days now.

docmac said...

Have no idea, Claudia. I would have thought I might be the last person on earth that Sass would want any form of contact with.

Cláudia said...

Doc, I don't know when it was. ROTFLMAO!

Cláudia said...

I'm sorry, Doc. I would be the last person. You would be the previous one. PMSL!

docmac said...

Second place is fine by me.

Cláudia said...

Doc, do you remember 'the mole'? Life's ironic.

docmac said...

Yes. Yes.

Cláudia said...

Yep.

Cláudia said...

Bum, maybe it was an associate of yours. One you really, really trust.

docmac said...

Oh NOOOOOO!!!!!

They banned the bottle lady too! Much less laughter in this household then :-(

Cláudia said...

WHAT?
The bottle lady was kicked out? Oh my...

docmac said...

Yes, and the only explanation I'm going to get is by asking Sass :-((

Cláudia said...

Doc, that will make it a bit difficult! :-)

Cláudia said...

Doc, most of this is surreal. But to end the night, this was missing:

"Roadie said...
This place has gone crazey."

ROTFLMAO!!!!

hope4truth said...

It is obvious that the lady in question is not stable I wonder if they give a damn that they were probebly all she had???

Although her posts were ranting that is really very sad...

docmac said...

Who on earth is 'Roadie'?? Does he like V8s and hotrods?

Cláudia said...

No, Hope, they certainly don't give a damn about anything. They don't give a damn about a missing, most likely dead little girl.

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