10 Aug 2008

BRITISH POLICE 14.5.07 TO KATE: WHERE IS MADDIE!!

This is the area behind the sofa in the McCanns apt - given that firstly a very excited Eddie had signalled cadaver odour (also in the McCann bedroom near the wardrobe and the patio outside their bedroom, to a lesser extent flower bed underneath the patio - remember Rebelo's officer jumping up and down on this) secondly Keela signalled blood, the tiles were very carefully removed by a FSS officer and taken to the lab in Birmingham for analysis. As we know the result of those tests were that the blood found was indicative of it being Madeleine's but not conclusive. See my second post below as to what Goncalo has to say about this, clearly both dogs would not signal so clearly if Madeleine's corpse had not been there, stringent checks were made to see whether anyone else died in the apt - negative. Therefore the clear assumption was made by the expert present that Madeleine died there. It was because of British intervention the McCanns were made suspects after the PJ asked for our specific forensic assistance.
As is usual in case where a child has been abducted the McCanns were allocated a British Police Liaison Officer. Some, including myself, may not be surprised to read that by the 14 May the Liaison Officer was saying to Kate McCann "where is Maddie". Particularly following the release of the PJ files we are increasingly coming to see Kate McCann for the petulant, rude and arrogant person she is. She lost her temper and this Liaison Officer lasted just a week! But then again liaison officers are provided to parent victims as in the case of Holly and Jessica, clearly this liaison officer realised they were anything but victims. They strode around smiling and laughing, holding press conferences, jogging and playing tennis. Using Madeleine's image, as Gerry so accurately said, as a good marketing ploy. Marketing is done to raise cash. This is what has always enraged me about this couple, they went against police advice and put her life in danger to sell her, clearly knowing she had already lost her short life. Being responsible for the death of your child is quite bad enough, cashing in and making money out of it to defend yourself and improve your lifestyle is quite another, it is grotesque, as are all the ridiculous claims about sightings in Amsterdam and nearby Belgium. I reproduced last night day 34 of Gerry's blog, 6/6/07 where he points out that managed to fit in a visit to their dear friends in Amsterdam who were campaigning vigorously on their behalf. They still are, but as Docmac has just demonstrated by providing a link to comments on Virgin, the public have just about heard enough of this couple's ridiculous and shambolic lies. It seems they even want to go back on TV again, on Crimewatch, I will be telling the BBC what I think if they allow them to do this and would urge others to do the same!

I would also stress again this article in Correio de Manha confirms the British Police are most certainly not on the side of Kate and Gerry McCann. We just need to be patient! They changed the type of officer they wanted out there from a Liaison Officer to support a couple of rogues to Mark Harrison an expert in homicide detection techniques sent to help net a couple of rogues. We used technology and spared no expense. We do not care about the costs in such a case. Please remember that.

Viv x


August 10, 2008 - 00:30 am Research: Experts asked where was Maddie Police annoyed the English McCann The parents of Madeleine McCann desentenderam with the English police the early days after the disappearance of the girl. On May 14, Kate Healy proved to be shocked and frustrated with the British official liaison to the family. The cause of disagreement have arisen when researchers asked where Kate was his daughter. Police officers from the United Kingdom with the mission to provide support for the McCann family are professionals with specific training in abductions and kidnappings. Its task would be to give support to McCann, establish a bridge with the Judicial Police and work together with other British agents installed in the Algarve. At its presence in Portugal, the investigations indicated the thesis of kidnapping as the most consistent. According to the former coordinator of the process Gonçalo Amaral, liaison officers from the family "did not come to last more than one week in their duties", after the disagreement with the family. The difficulty of communication between the couple and the researchers never was, however, officially communicated to the Judicial Police. The withdrawal of Portugal for the specialists in kidnappings and abductions occurring two months before the same British authorities suggest the Judicial Police greater attention in view of the child's death on the spot, a possibility which until then was a secondary level of research. For Portugal is then sent the forensic expert Mark Harrison, adviser for national searches of all the police agencies of the United Kingdom to the level of homicides and missing persons. It is Mark Harrison who recommends the use of dogs to detect smell the corpses. Interpol SEGUIU MORE THAN EMC PISTAS IN BELGIUM In Belgium, 107 people claim to have seen Maddie. However, Interpol in Brussels had not revealed any success in the collection of evidence leading to the child hostage. Also in the squad from Leicestershire, where they live the McCann in June last year, the detective John Hughes drew a little encouraging result for searches. Meanwhile, the Spanish private detectives reported that the Method 3 will prosecute the British newspapers that accused the Mafia. The Spaniards say now that their participation in the search was "low". STRONG MEANS HIGH-TECH British spared no efforts in using technology to find Maddie. TASK PORTUGAL In PJ of Portimão, the British mounted a room of research known as Task Portugal. PROFILE OF RAPTOR Several British experts collaborated to trace the profile of possible raptor. USE OF DOGS Dogs Englishmen had already participated in over 200 operations. PRESS 'MIRROR' Official reports that Portuguese police have attempted to do surveillance at the house of McCann, but judge refused the request. 'THE SUN' Apparitions of girls similar to Maddie again arise in Belgium.

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Di said...

Doc

You there?

docmac said...

Di yes, briefly. The article you posted is the one I linked to earlier implying I would rather trust GA than the 3 liars. He sounds a thoroughly decent and intelligent man.

docmac said...

Over and out. Going to watch some football lowlights.

Goodnight Di and everyone.

Di said...

Hi Doc

Sorry, I did not see your earlier post, apologies.

I have not had a very good day today, my daughter is having a bad time health wise, nothing serious just annoying problems which are not getting sorted out.


I totally agree with your comments though.

Di said...

Goodnight all..

bath theory said...

Hope all is well Di with daughter and thanks for the thanks. Goodnight, For some strange reason I am once again confident today that these two will be found out by a legal process.

Unknown said...

Hiya all

What a fascinating interview with Goncalo. He clearly suggests the sofa was intentionally moved up against the wall covering the spot where Madeleine actually died. He will not go beyond saying it was an accident because he cannot prove who did it, but stressing he is not saying it was merely an accident. This is a very clever man who will not have words put into his mouth, taking the evidence beyond what he actually has.

Of one thing though we can be very certain, the Smiths are very important witnesses and they say they saw Gerry McCann carrying Madeleine away, not Jane Tanner's bundleman who she later insisted was poor Robert Murat.

There is no doubt that Madeleine died on that spot and yet the parents protest she is still alive and they are searching for her.

It is a great pity that Goncalo was removed from the investigation because I think, as he clearly implies he would have got closer to finding out what they did with the body and who was responsible. Interestingly he maintains the body was indeed moved in the hire car having been frozen and he also maintains other contact in PDL. We know the McCanns have the millionaire friend on the outskirts of PDL Geraghty and Goncalo seems to be implying he was left out of the investigation. Sadly, it would seem that money really does talk. He also clearly implies there are other actors who need to be brought into the process. We know Gerry received 14 texts the day before Madeleine died and then another 4 the day after, it would clearly be crucial to find out who these are from but Gerry will not disclose the details and the Portuguese Appeal Court Judge refused to allow this either. I am afraid I have to ask myself why.

On the more positive side, Goncalo confirms there are aspects of this case that he has not revealed because he is a jurist also, a lawyer or one who has studied and understands the workings of the law as he clearly has, he has a law degree. By this he means releasing further information would impede the due process of law. This is the information the British Police have that they wish to keep confidential and I am still clear, as BT is, it is because they intend to bring this couple, and others, to justice.

Viv x

Cláudia said...

Hi, guys.
Sorry, just got home. My life has been kind of crazy since I came back from holiday. Have so much to do I don't know where to start. Viv and Doc, I just answered your e-mails.
Sleep well, all.

nancy said...

Hello Viv and everyone -

I've been reading back on all your comments and I see that the blog is open again for all to read which I think is a good thing because that's the only way we have of at least getting over to people, and hopefully those who could influence the outcome, that it's justice for Madeleine which is the most important and not the supposed 'sufferings' of the couple who brought about her disappearance through their utter neglect and selfish behaviour.

Gerry has written another blog which is on McCann files today - he is adamant that Madeleine is still alive and that their investigators will continue to explore credible leads. As far as I can see there have been no 'credible' leads - all the supposed 'spotters' of Madeleine have one thing in common - not one of them had the wherewithal or gumption to actually challenge or question the people who they thought were with her - at least one would have thought that one person out of all the hundreds would have done just that! All spin and no substance. CM is working overtime it seems, and why, if they are no longer arguidos, is he around as their spokesman - surely they could spend the money on something more important, like looking for their daughter for instance!

And just where is the money coming from for these new investigators on top of what they pay M3? As Lindy123 suggested, it's about £160,000 a month!! Of course, we all know where much of it's coming from; all their publicity, interviews, etc. etc. They have to pay the mortgage somehow! Is that what all this is about? I don't believe for one moment that the general public are still paying into the Madeleine Fund. The tide is turning against them. I hardly think they could afford to court the top investigators in the world on Gerry's pay, and it seems Kate is never going to return to work!

Another interesting comment by a prominent psychoogist, Quintono Aires, says that Kate's diaries are narcissistic, immature and predictable! I think they were written for distraction purpose at the time - is there any evidence that she always kept a diary before this tragic event?

The fact that Gerry refuses to reveal the contents of the 14 text messages just proves to me that they weren't just normal everyday messages, or he would have been willing to disclose them. The fact that the Portuguese Appeal Court Judge disallowed their disclosure speaks volumes in my opinion. If they were innocent messages he would surely have agreed to their disclosure. I think he will have to live with that decision for a long time and I'm sure that many people will consider there is a cover up.

I'm off to breakfast now - see you all later. Great to be back with you all now the hols are over!

Nancy x

bath theory said...

As Nancy said

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id79.html

Gerry's blog - Day 469: 14/08/2008

It is over 3 weeks since we learned that the Portuguese authorities had closed the investigation to find Madeleine, lifted our arguido status and ended judicial secrecy. We were surprised that copies of investigation files were given to the media. The content of these files has been extensively reported. It will be clear to everyone now, that there is absolutely no evidence that suggests Madeleine has been seriously harmed. Knowing this, we strongly believe that Madeleine is out there and can be found.

Of course whoever is responsible for Madeleine’s abduction must, and can be, found to prevent them from putting another child and family through the misery we have suffered. We have always believed that this heinous crime could be solved with the help of the public.

Our investigators continue to explore credible leads and will continue to do so as long as Madeleine is missing. Now that the authorities are no longer looking for Madeleine we implore everyone who has provided information to the enquiry to contact us at investigation@findmadeleine.com or on + 44 (0)845 838 4699. We will guarantee that all information will be treated in the strictest confidence. You can help us find Madeleine.

bath theory said...

But even more interesting is this
stuff about Najoua Chekaya who was the aerobic instructor and quiz lady who initially we were told was called over by the McCann's that night and thus provided an alibii. However, if I read this correctly it shows she was not even there that particular night.

McCann files has taken it from Gazeta Digital.

...The aerobic instructor short statement Gazeta Digital

Duarte Levy and Paulo Reis
Thursday August 14 2008

Najoua Chekaya arrived in Portugal on March 2007, recruited in England to work for Mark Warner, according to her statement to the PJ, in May 2007. Just a curiosity, the translator was Robert Murat. She described her daily working routine, as an aerobics instructor and said that when she arrived at Ocean Club, she was asked also to perform a "Quiz Game", at night (09:00 pm), at the Tapas Bar, twice a week – every Sunday and Tuesday.

On May 1, 2007, after the "Quiz" was finished, Najoua was invited by Gerry McCann to sit at their table, to have a drink. She was there for 15/20 minutes, between 9.30 and 9:50 pm. There was just casual talk and she doesn't know if Madeleine's mother was at the table or not.

During that period of time, nobody left the table, but there was an empty chair. Who has been sitting at that chair, Najoua didn't know.

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Comment: This is an extremely important piece of information, as we had previously been led to believe that at 9.30pm, on the night of Madeleine's disappearance, Ms Chekaya had been invited to join the tapas table, by Gerry McCann, following completion of the quiz. Her police statement makes it quite clear that this was not the case. Consequently, she cannot corroborate, or provide an alibi for, any of the McCanns or their friends movements on the night of May 3rd.

First mention of Najoua Chekaya was in Sol on 30 June 2007:

An aerobic instructor from the resort entertains the dinner guests at Tapas with a 'Quiz'. At 9.30 p.m. the game ends, and Gerry invites her to their table, where she stays for half an hour. During that time, as she later confided to friends, nobody left the table, but one of the chairs was vacant. Najova Chekaya refuses to talk to Sol.

The Daily Mail later picked up the story, twice:

Madeleine and the missing hour: how often did the McCanns check on their children? Daily Mail

By SUE REID
Last updated at 16:31 11 August 2007

Sitting beside a swimming pool in the Algarve on that May evening Gerry and Kate McCann were enjoying themselves. The tapas bar of the Mark Warner holiday resort in Praia da Luz was buzzing with holidaymakers and it was quiz night.

The McCanns were favourites to win the contest organised by the resort's aerobics teacher Najova Chekaya. After all, the two doctors had brains on their side. Around their table were seven friends from England, three of them also doctors and one a top medical research fellow.

(...)

And what of Najova Chekaya, the aerobics teacher running the quiz? She was invited over to the McCann table by Mr McCann himself when the game ended at 9.30. She stayed for half an hour. She later claimed to friends that nobody left the table.

I just want to go home, says fitness teacher who is key witness Daily Mail

Last updated at 12:03 16 August 2007

A Briton critical to the Madeleine McCann investigation has told friends she is now desperate to leave Portugal.

Aerobics instructor Najoua Chekaya was chatting with Gerry and Kate McCann and their friends when Madeleine, then three, vanished from the family's Algarve apartment in Praia da Luz.

That night, Ms Chekaya had organised a bar quiz at the Ocean Club resort where the McCanns were staying. Her evidence is understood to corroborate the McCanns' movements in the hour before the disappearance was discovered.

This week police in Portugal publicly declared the McCanns, both doctors from Leicestershire, were not suspects following a smear campaign which suggested they and their friends were somehow implicated.

Ms Chekaya, 21, from Flitwick, Beds, is still working in Praia da Luz for Ocean Club operator Mark Warner.

But she wrote to one friend on social networking site Facebook: "Missin you guys loads. dun with portugal now, wana cum home n have fun in flitwick!! neva thought id say that!!"

Portuguese laws make it an offence for witnesses in a criminal inquiry to discuss their evidence, but it is understood Ms Chekaya was invited by Mr McCann to join his table when the quiz finished at 9.30pm....'

INTERESTING , HEY !

bath theory said...

Am I right in thinking then that there was no quiz that night, and thus this story that went out early on that G had invited over this quiz lady to their table is fabricated? Fabricated to provide an alibi to place him at the tapas table at 9.30pm ?

Anonymous said...

Hi all,

I would be surprised if the Public are still donating to that fund.

Anonymous said...

'We were surprised that copies of investigation files were given to the media.'

I bet they were! I am still convinced they thought the file would be handed exclusively to them and that they would control what the public would be allowed to know. Wonder if he realises it will be available to the public also or will that be another surprise announced in his blog.

Cláudia said...

'We were surprised that copies of investigation files were given to the media.'

Well, I don't think 'surprised' was the word he really wanted to use. Maybe f***ed would be more suitable. But we all understand.

Good morning all. Have a good day.

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hope4truth said...

Morning All

Hope you are all well??? I crashed my car this morning but no one was hurt thank god but I feel awful for the poor guy I went into (he only had a little crack in his bumper but was not hurt thank god) entirley my fault the roundabout was clear so I thought he would go and he diddnt so I crashed!!!

My Car very poorley and has to go into the garage to be made better but I guess that is what fully comp insurance is for so not worried just hope the other guy is not put out having his fixed.

So Gerry has blogged again the whole truth shines through those two every time they open their mouths or write a blog they show that there is no way they think Madeleine is in the hands of evil peadophiles because if they believed this for one single second they would be so worried about what was happening to their little girl. Not smiling on what would have been her 4th Birthday or when out and about with another child in a buggy.

I still cant belive Kate refused to answer any questions about her missing child what kind of Mother would not help?

A bloody cold callous one as for him well keep on blogging Gez you got rid of the first lot of uncaring rubbish you wrote but it is still out there to read.

docmac said...

Hi Hope

So sorry to hear about your crash and glad you're OK and that nobody was hurt. More importantly, did you discuss the Madeleine case with the other driver and the police and give them the links to this blog and 3A? :-))

hope4truth said...

Doc

He was going to sue me until I mentioned Viv's we did our secret handshake and no more was said LOL

xxx

Cláudia said...

Hope, I'm gld you're ok and nobody got hurt. That's what really matters.


"docmac said...
Hi Hope

So sorry to hear about your crash and glad you're OK and that nobody was hurt. More importantly, did you discuss the Madeleine case with the other driver and the police and give them the links to this blog and 3A? :-))"

LOLOL PMSL!

Anonymous said...

Hi Hope,

Glad you are OK and hope you get your car back soon.

Agree with everything you have said regarding the odious ones.

'We were surprised that copies of investigation files were given to the media.'
DON'T KNOW WHY HE WAS SURPRISED. I KNEW THAT THE FILES WOULD BE IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN BY READING THE BLOGS. HOWEVER I AM GLAD THAT IF THEY DID TRY TO STOP THE FILES BEING PUBLICLY AVAILABLE, THEY COULD NOT.

'It will be clear to everyone now, that there is absolutely no evidence that suggests Madeleine has been seriously harmed.'

ER....NO IT IS NOT CLEAR!

'We have always believed that this heinous crime could be solved with the help of the public.'

I DO AGREE WITH THAT. THE PUBLIC NOT GIVING UP ON THIS INNOCENT CHILD WILL MAKE SURE SHE GETS JUSTICE. I WILL NEVER GIVE UP, I WILL NEVER SUPPORT CHILD NEGLECT IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM. I WILL NOT BE TOLD I HAVE NO RIGHT TO MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH, MY OWN BELIEFS. I DO BELIEVE THAT JUSTICE WILL BE FORTHCOMING. I DO BELIEVE THAT ALL WHO HAVE SUPPORTED THE NEGLECT OF THIS CHILD WILL GET THEIR CUMMUPPANCE. THE PUBLIC DO NOT FORGET!

'Now that the authorities are no longer looking for Madeleine'

THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES!

hope4truth said...

Hi Claudia

Glad to see you back did you have a nice holiday???

I feel better now just spoken to my insurance company and they are providing him with a courtesy car so at least he wont be stuck while his is fixed...

The lorry is on it's way to take mine away now xxx

hope4truth said...

Hi Zodiac

His spin will be all spun out soon they are fooling a few but not as many people are buying it now.

Poor Madeleine not a word of her suffering and whatever happend she would have suffered...

Cláudia said...

Hope, yes, I did. Thank you. Too short, though. Or so it seemed! :-)

hope4truth said...

Holidays are always too short :o( never mind can always look forward to the next one :o) xxx

Anonymous said...

Hope,

Exactly not a word of the little one and if they believe she is out there what she must be suffering. All he can say is there is no evidence she came to any harm and we need the public's help. Well they had help from the public the night she disappeared and from what they have said at the EU they appear totally ungrateful for the help given by the public and other bodies that night, days and weeks after. They physically did not look whilst the public gave up their holiday time, personal time to look for their child. What help do they want from the public? The contents of piggy banks, portions of 0AP's pensions, people to give up their time to do something charitable and send the monies to them. Maybe they should put their hands in their own pockets to fund the searches they want for their child. The World is a big place, there are so many missing children. What do the parents of these children do? I know if it was me, my home would be sold and I would move into rented accom, my savings would be used, our cars sold anything of value used towards the search for the missing member of my family. I would not be asking the public to pay my mortgage and Fund my new lifestyle. I would not look better and dress better than I did before the unfortunate event I would look worse (OMG the thought!) and there would only be a certain amount of sympathy shown for time off work for my hubby I am sure. How much are we the public in the UK and the PT people paying for all of this. There are children, adults dying because they cannot get the drugs they need for Cancer and other illnesses because the NHS cannot afford to fund it. This crazy mentality has to be stopped 3people are dictating what we here in the UK are allowed to know. The UK Press/Media should hang their heads in shame. Christmas is coming wonder what will happen around then?

nancy said...

Hi Hope and Zodiac - so glad your accident was not a serious one Hope - cars can always be replaced but not people!

As far as Gerry's blog is concerned where he assumes everyone will know that there is absolutely no evidence which suggests Madeleine has been seriously harmed - I think he has been spending too much time with his expensive laywers and is sounding like them, more pompous every day!

He says "knowing this we strongly believe that Madeleine is 'out there' and can be found."

Well, if he thinks that, I suggest he gets on his bike and starts looking because he and his wife have done very little in the way of looking so far, whereas the PJ's apparently knocked on 500 doors and searched the premises in PdeL following Madeleine's disappearance!

Unless, of course, as some people believe, they know exactly where she is and are making sure they have made their millions before bringing her back into the spotlight and all the fanfare that will follow, pretending they and their tapas pals knew absolutely nothing about it!

However, I believe those wonderful cadaver dogs a thousand times more than I believe the McCanns and as GA has said in his book, it was believed to be an accident that led to death, and was then covered up. I agree totally with his view.

Anonymous said...

Hi Nancy,

I have never believed a word they have said since the 4/05/07 and still do not believe them. Their behaviour disgusts me.

I am so glad that I did not allow my little gril to send her own money to the Fund. She is only 8 and she now realises I was right. I told her to pray for the missing child that would help more than sending money.

hope4truth said...

Zodiac

I agree with every word the (OMG the thought) really sums it up I would be in hell if I thought my daughter was in the hands of an evil peadophile ring or if someone told me the scent of death had been detected I would want to know if my child were dead asking for the blood results to be rushed and would be devestated if they had a 10% match to my missing child never mind the match they had.

If I knew I did not kill my daughter I would want to know who did and what my friends were up to all evening yet they are so in to theirs they trust them completly.

How anyone can fall fot the lies is beyond me just look at the joyus pictures of them and as you say still no word for Madeleine the victim... xxx

Nancy

Good to see you yes no one was hurt thank god I feel bad enough I hit his car let alone hurting the poor guy....

Hope you are well xxx

docmac said...

A couple of days ago I posted a link to a picture of one of two fishing vessels that had run aground up the road from my house. An attempted salvage failed and one of the vessels has now been lost due to wave action. The sea is relentlessly powerful. It's a good place to 'lose' things.

Cláudia said...

Yes, Doc, the sea is an incredibly beautiful and powerful way for nature to show its strength. And it hides many secrets, I believe.

J J said...

Sky have some interesting comments today!
Sorry if this has been posted before.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Madeleine-McCann-Father-Gerry-Says-Portuguese-Police-Have-No-Evidence-She-Has-Been-Seriously-Harmed/Article/200808315079300?lpos=World%2BNews_4&lid=ARTICLE_15079300_Madeleine%2BMcCann%253A%2BFather%2BGerry%2BSays%2BPortuguese%2BPolice%2BHave%2BNo%2BEvidence%2BShe%2BHas%2BBeen%2BSeriously%2BHarmed#comment

Cláudia said...

Comments on Sky.
Someone needs to alert the pro brigade so they can call each other and start typing. Hurry up!
..................................


I can't believe that Gerry is stupid enough to believe that his daughter 'missing' for 15 months has come to no harm. What abot the dogs Gerry? Why wouldnt Kate answer the questions? How did the 'abducter' get out of the appartment? Through a window with leaving no DNA? The windows were not broken or jemmied as you said? I doubt Madeliene has been harmed since leaving the appartment. ... But what happened while she was still inside ???
Posted By :Chrristine

Why is the media conspiring in this fantasy that Maddie is unharmed?It's sadly just so implausible.Highly-trained British sniffer dogs indicate otherwise and,even if she was abducted,does anyone seriously believe she is unharmed?
Posted By :Rachel

How thick does Gerry think the British public are???\nDoes he not realise that as every day passes by less and less people believe the drivel that comes out his mouth.\nIf Madeleine is found alive - I will eat my hat !
Posted By :jack

The Game's almost up. The sooner the british press realise this and stop crawling round the McCanns, the sooner it will be over. The journo to "bring it in to the public domain" will be very rich and very famous.
Posted By :dunitburger

If Madeleine can still be found Gerry,why have you and your wife never gone out and looked for her?\nI believe the dogs,they can't lie.
Posted By :mannie

Gerry & Kate McCann, along with their friends, need to take a long hard look at themselves. Sooner, rather than later, the full truth contained within the police files will be published and then there will be some REALLY hard questions asked. Yes Kate, you can refuse to answer those questions (let's face it, it wouldn't be the first time), but surely even you realise now that the time has come to face the music, stop this charade of claiming an abduction where there isn't the slightest evidence of one (in stark contrast to the evidence of a death in that apartment and the evidence that an abduction COULDN'T have taken place as you claimed...) and please, please, PLEASE stop with the appealing for more money... you are only going to make the situation worse if you continue like this.
Posted By :Carl

The Portuguese police files show no evidence of an abduction, so why are the McCanns still following this line of enquiry.
Posted By: Amelia

I am sorry this little girl has not been found, but still alive, I think not.\n\nI think that the abductor had no choice once the circus began.\n\n
Posted By: DIANE HUTCHINSON

I find this quite ludicrous - They never looked for their daughter instead they were out jogging and swanning about. Well we just dont believe that Madeleine was abducted as there is absolutely no evidence to support this. On the other hand highly trained dogs are unlikely to be wrong and the DNA findings changed from one day to the next. It is a travesty of justice IMHO
Posted By: felix

Wizard said...

Hi eveyone,

I was just reading 3A's when I came across a report of Jez Wilkins' statement to the police. It makes interesting reading especially when he places Jane Tanner outside the apartment block standing around at 8.15pm on 3rd May. I copy the report below. Apologies if already discussed.

"The casual tennis partner of Gerry McCann believes he left home between 8:15/8:30 pm, on May 3, to walk his son, in a buggy, according to his statements to police. He turned right and, as he looked to the building next to the one where the McCann were staying, he saw a woman in a purple dress.

Jeremy Wilkins went down the street and went to the toilet near the swimming pool, close to the Tapas Bar, through the Ocean Club reception. He met a couple, the man with “rasta” hair and, after going out from the toilet, kept walking down the streets, around the backside of the tennis court.

He walked through several streets, as his soon was having difficulty in sleeping. He met another couple, a tourist named Curtis with his girlfriend. After walking around a lot, he found himself going out from a street to the road that goes to Batista Supermarket, between the McCann apartment and the Tapas Bar.

He saw Gerry McCann on the other side of the road (between 8:45 and 9:15 pm), not far from the gate that gave access to the stairs of the ground floor apartment and crossed the street to talk with him, in the sidewalk. As far as he can remember, they talked for 3 to 5 minutes. His soon was already asleep and, when the talk finished, Gerry went down, in the direction of Tapas Bar, and Jeremy Wilkins went up the street, turned to the left and returned to his apartment.

While talking to Gerry, he said that he couldn't guarantee that he didn't saw somebody, on the top of the street, because he was either looking to Gerry or to his baby, in the buggy, and probably was in a position with his back to the top of the street.

Questioned about Jane Tanner, who said, in her statements to police, that she saw both of them, talking, while she walked the same street to check her daughter, around 9:15 pm, Jeremy Wilkins said that he doesn't remember to see her, during his conversation with Gerry McCann.

But he believes he saw her, when he left home between 8:15/8:30 pm, May3, 2007 – she was standing in the street, just in front of the apartment of one of the McCann friends, doesn't know if it was her own apartment. He remembers that she was using a purple colour dress. At the time, he knew that she was one of McCann friends, but didn't knew her name.

Gerry's behaviour was perfectly normal and Jeremy admits that the light, on that area, could be enough, to somebody that would be in the same place he and Gerry were, to recognize a person already known or to give a general description of an unknown person that was walking on the top of the street.

Duarte Levy and Paulo Reis "
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Stonemaid said...

Thanks for the link to the stranded vessels Doc - it's awful to see a ship out of it's normal environment. The sea is very destructive and little Madeleine's body would not have lasted very long if that is where she was buried.

Your weather seems to have taken a turn for the worse!

Stonemaid

mandarinn said...

Hi all It seems McCanns didn't realize that the case files are in public domain, it means not only UK press can acess them but thewideworld.They can manipulate the UK press as they are doing, but not all worlds press and bloggs.
I know most of britons don't care to learn foreigne languages and it is why UK press dare to show manipulaed and distorced files.
However it will be spread in UK, soon or late.

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sorry sorry sorry.. i can't delect my poste :((

docmac said...

Hi Stonemaid

The weather has been near perfect for about 2 weeks or maybe even a bit longer. Low to mid 20s, windless and sunny. No, this stretch of coastline is known as a surfing and kiteboarding paradise. Big, consistent swells from August to February. The other boat (the one I posted the link to) is probably going to be OK, as it is standing perfectly upright. I agree, a small body would be mutilated in those conditions.

Hi Mandarinn, spot on with that observation. You can stop pushing the publish button now :-)

dylan said...

Hope,

So glad you are OK and hope you're not too shaken.

Docmac, the ocean does indeed have strength. Enough to erode away entire cliffs!! A boat or a medium sized piece flotsam/jetsam is no problem for the sea!
Another baby question I'm afraid (why do people keep asking me these??) - Is it true that you shouldn't sleep on your back whilst pregnant as it cuts off the blood supply to the baby? I think not but then what do I know??!

xx

hope4truth said...

Hi Dyl

I am fine thanks just pleased the other guy is not hurt and has got a courtesy car while they fix his my Dad asked me if I pay an extra premium for being a blonde woman driver LOL

How are you now all your course work is handed in any more dates???

xxx

Joe said...

So Gerry McCann believes that the PJ report no way indicates that Madeline has been harmed and believes that people on reading the files will believe/accept that...... No Gerry I do'nt think so. If anything people are more suspicious of you and Mrs. In his blog he should explain why his lovely wife could not/would not answer the 48 questions and explain this....

The authorities investigated more than half a thousand homes in order to explain the disappearance of Maddie. But only in two places, where the McCann couple lived, parents of the missing British girl on May 3, 2007, was evidence found that the child might be dead.

This evidence is of course the cadaver smell. Is that not evidence that harm came to Madeline, and the conclusion of the report strongly suggests that Madeline is dead? He has been around Pinky too long. Its really the fund and all the trappings that you want to keep going, and of course public suspicion away from you and you lovely Mrs. All my opinion of course.

docmac said...

Hi Dyl

Trust me to talk earlier about the weather being perfect. Now it's bloody raining and I am off tomorrow to see the All Blacks vs South Africa test match. Ah well, maybe it'll be OK.

Dyl, the main reason a (heavily) pregnant woman should not lie on her back is that the womb and its contents will put pressure on the main vein returning blood from the lower parts of her body to the heart, possibly leading to swelling of the legs, thrombosis and other complications.

Theoretically a reduced return of blood to the heart will also lead to a reduction in cardiac output and this may lead to a reduction in blood flow to the placenta and bodily organs, but a variety of compensatory mechanisms kick in and the insult to the placenta is negligible.

docmac said...

Everyone seen the 153 questions thread on 3A? Hehe.

hope4truth said...

Doc

Read it earlier LOL x

But I bet if the PJ had the list of questions they could and would answer each and evey one of them....

docmac said...

Yes, Hope. I think GA would answer those questions in oh, around 30 to 45 minutes?

hope4truth said...

Doc

I think any one would answer them fairly quickly espesialy if there was a point to it like getting to the truth about Madeleine.

Shame her Mother could not be bothered to answer the questions she was asked I cant see a single question there that would phase me if my child were missing I would be answering each and every one as quickly as I could so the police could cary on doing their jobs if I were inocent the most important thing would be my child.

Then again Gerry says that there is no evidence to sugest Madeleine has been harmed and in the same breath tells us she is in the hands of a Peadophile ring...

I could not bear to think of my child in the hands of evil scum and would be devestated I was helpless to find her and mortified that I had left her alone and unsafe in the first place....

docmac said...

A BRITISH paedophile ring..

You know something that has intrigued me about the questions. Gerry supposedly answered every question put to him and yet he was still made arguido. I wonder what he said that piqued the interest of the PJ?

docmac said...

Goodnight Hope and all.

hope4truth said...

Night Doc x

bath theory said...

Hi Doc

South Arfrica 17 All Blacks 22

bath theory said...

I see two people who would stand in the middle of an apple orchard and say 'What apples , where?' and by saying it they perceived a lot of people would believe them. However, an old tramp whho lived rough under one of the apple trees perked up and said 'Sorry mate these are apples' and the couple both with professional jobs replied stratching their noses 'What apples where. There is no reason to believe these are apples. Show me the evidence' The old guy got offered money to say they were oranges but refused so the big powerful land owner had him thrown off his land. The male of the couple turned around sucking his lollipop and said 'We have no reason to believe these are apples' and quietly goes about his business.

However, time passes and more and more people in the village stop and look and see that these really are apple trees. Eventually, so many people start to talk openly about it that the powerful land owner has to let the old rough guy back on his land to live under his glorious apple trees. As the old guy nestles back under his tree he says, 'When you see an apple tree right in front of you how can you try and make me say it is an orange tree?'

The apple tree turns and says for a while there we smelt the smell of power. The old tramp guy smiles and says 'Don't you mean the stench?'

PS Until the day they died the couple continued to try and convince the villagers they were oranges even when some specialist fruit sniffing dogs were bought in to provide the evidence required.

bath theory said...

A voice that we will not forget

A special goodnight to a 3yr old who vanished into thin air because she had a greater moral compass than the parents who conceived her - JFM

WE SHALL OVERCOME

Joe said...

From Hopefotruth's post..

Then again Gerry says that there is no evidence to sugest Madeleine has been harmed and in the same breath tells us she is in the hands of a Peadophile ring...

I could not bear to think of my child in the hands of evil scum and would be devestated I was helpless to find her and mortified that I had left her alone and unsafe in the first place....

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What Gerry McCann claims is just plain stupid and insulting what does he think paedophiles do? (as both he and his lovely wife claim Madeline is with a paedophile(s) ). They harm children. What an idiot no wonder he cannot talk for himself when he comes out with sh*t like that.

docmac said...

Hi BT

SA by 8 to 11.

bath theory said...

You may be right but I am miffed you are able to see it live.

bath theory said...

now I must get some sleep dudes as I have to drive for 8 hrs tomorrow
No doc not going karibou hunting just driving to see the nmountains

bath theory said...

Hi Joe quite agree but it is easier to understand his words if you personally believe his motive is to conceal which of course I personally believe. It is my inferecene from his actions, words and such like from what I have seen and believe me when i see an apple tree I say it is an apple tree.

docmac said...

Night BT. I sent you a rather verbose e-mail yesterday. Sounds like you won't be answering it tomorrow :-)

Have a good time!

mandarinn said...

Tell madeleine is unharmed and also she is in the hands of a paedophil ring is simply obscene

Cláudia said...

What the hell happened while I was on holiday? Is this really Sky News? Someone is really distracted...
.................................

Gerry, why do you not comment on the serious allegations made about you and your friend on a previous holiday? I believe this is very relevant to this case
Posted By :Georgiecat Report This

Angela, so please explain the cadaver odour in the McCanns' apartment, on Kate McCann's clothes, on Cuddlecat, and in the car. The DNA is "inconclusive", that doesn't mean it is "no match". As far as I'm informed, 15 out of 19 markers match Maddie's DNA. \nWhere was Kate McCann's "natural instinct" when she left her two smallest alone when supposedly she was sure an abductor had just taken Maddie? Nonsense, all of it.
Posted By :Wolfgangus Amadeus

And they showed "absolutely no evidence" his missing daughter Madeleine had been abducted either. Quite the opposite in fact e.g. no jemmied windows like Gerry said.\n
Posted By :Sara Report This

no angela a mothers natrual instinct is to look after her child which kate mcann did not
Posted By :michelle Report This

I really don't like the McCanns----i try to be sympathetic [there is a little missing girl at the heart of this] but something just seems so iffy about the two of them---I can't help but feel completely disinterested in their plight.
Posted By :CrossFire Report This

"Absolutely no evidence" that Maddie came to serious harm, obviously Dr McCann cannot read. The best cadaver dogs detected cadaver odour in several places in the McCanns' apartment, on Kate McCann's clothes and in the car boot. So you have 1) Maddie missing, 2) the investigation showed that no-one had ever died in the apartment before the McCanns were in it, now what does that tell you!!! Tell us Gerry, why did the boot of the hire car smell that bad that Sandy Cameron cleaned it? How many mortgages have you paid out of the fund "for the search for Maddie" while you've been playing golf?
Posted By :Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Report This

when are these people going to face charges for the crime they commited in leaving thier children alone?
Posted By: kevinReport This

i would not wish this to happen to anyone, only the people involved know what happened that night! if the mccanns where involved it will haunt them for the rest of their lives! but if they have nothing to do with it, they cant ever give up hope on their daughter being found and it must kill them every day, knowing that they left their children alone in the apartment, and it could quite easily be 3 children missing... god love poor maddie
Posted By: carolineReport This

If Gerry 'strongly' believes Madeleine is out there and can be found why doesnt he appeal to the person who has her and mention the reward?\nWhy dont he and Kate provide a proper comprehensive timeline for May 3rd so that we the public can help?\nWhy doesnt Kate tell us how she 'knew' Madeleine had been abducted from the state of the bedroom?\nCome on Kate and Gerry - you keep asking the public for help and yet you give us no information to go on - it seems all you want is more money.\n
Posted By: JaneReport This

gerry dogs and children tell the truth they never lie remeber when maddie asked you why you were not there dont you feel ashamed?
Posted By: michelleReport This

I beggars belief that they are still continuing to say that there is no evidence that Madeleine has came to any harm when the evidence is there for all to see in the police files. British dogs detected cadaver odour in the apartment AND the villa where the McCanns where staying, on some of Kate's clothes, the soft toy and in the boot of the car. Can the McCanns tell us how many people died around them if it wasn't Madeleine. Something stinks and it isn't just the cadaver odour in my opinion.
Posted By: MargaretMacDonald

What amazes me is that the press are willing to report the constant drivel that comes from your mouth. Everyone knows Madeleine died in the apartment on the 2/3rd of May. The scam is ceasing to work Gerry and the gullible are seeing sense because we all know that DOGS DO NOT LIE!
Posted By: sharonReport This

Do the McCanns truly believe that Madeleine is being loved and cared for by her abductor. That is not what abductors do.
Posted By: MartineReport This

Gerry McCann is seriously deluded
Posted By: GeorgiecatReport This

15 out of 19 markers were identified as belonging to Madeleine McCann in the car, a brand new car with only a few rentals. The FSS later said that they could not be certain this was not a chance match i.e belonging to someone else who might have been secreting bodily fluid in the boot? Give us some credit, what are the odds that of the few people who rented the car one of them had 15 DNA markers identical to Madeleine McCann? And before it is suggested, the twins DNA was ruled out, it did not belong to them or the parents either, so already they have ruled out 3 other occupants of the car further reducing the odds. The evidence backs up the dogs, the McCann's tried to discredit the dogs by intending to site the "Eugene Zapata" case in America, even consulting with his lawyers, only for the dogs in that case to be exonorated when Zapata confessed proving the dogs were right all along. She is not in Belgium or Morocco she is in PDL but they will not look there. Stop this now.
Posted By: Mrs M Report This

It's way past the time for the McCanns to come out and tell the truth. Their "abduction" story is filled with holes. Why doesn't Kate tell us exactly how she knew by the state of the room that there had been an abduction? She said she couldn't talk about it because of the secrecy laws attached to being an arguido. Well Kate, you are no longer an arguido. Why are you not answering the quesions, including the 48 you refused to answer to the police?
Posted By: maebeeReport This

McCans made the press look foolish and the press have done nothing to help themselves sucking up to the McCans in the hope of the odd exclusive this is not jurnilism it is *** licking this poor beutifull little girl died cos the drugs that she was given to make her sleep went wrong... when peeps 1st started leaving feedback on news stories most were in favour of the McCans but look now i not found 1 yet lol... u killed ur own daughter that is my beleif
Posted By: marc millerReport This

But gerry, police files show cadaver dogs finding the scent of death and blood in the apartment where the child was last, wouldn't he be beside himself with anxiety about possible harm having come to the child IMO. Why would a father deny that harm had come to the child unless he knew something? IMO\n\n
Posted By: JeremyReport This

C'mon people you know why Gerry is insisting she is still alive - didn't they say they would give the remaining fund money to childrens charities when they were given proof Madeleine was dead.\nThats their money they wont part with it.........\n
Posted By: MagsReport This

I can't believe that Gerry is stupid enough to believe that his daughter 'missing' for 15 months has come to no harm. What abot the dogs Gerry? Why wouldnt Kate answer the questions? How did the 'abducter' get out of the appartment? Through a window with leaving no DNA? The windows were not broken or jemmied as you said? I doubt Madeliene has been harmed since leaving the appartment. ... But what happened while she was still inside ???
Posted By: ChrristineReport This

Why is the media conspiring in this fantasy that Maddie is unharmed?It's sadly just so implausible.Highly-trained British sniffer dogs indicate otherwise and,even if she was abducted,does anyone seriously believe she is unharmed?
Posted By: RachelReport This

If you could just show the police WHERE Madeleine is then that would be really helpful Gerry! Kate has a point about people on BLOGS some can be nasty can't they Gerry? ...Kate really needs to LOOK closer to home for the finale to all this. Tish tish my ole fruit-case! What are you thinking of inviting people to contact you that made statements to the PJ? That really is not on is it! By the way still want to know why is sun cream an offensive smell after only a few days?
Posted By: AmberReport This

Very sad that it has come to this.\n\n'Absolutely no evidence his missing daughter Madeleine had been seriously harmed.' \nReally !!\n
Posted By: DebbieReport This

How thick does Gerry think the British public are???\nDoes he not realise that as every day passes by less and less people believe the drivel that comes out his mouth.\nIf Madeleine is found alive - I will eat my hat !
Posted By: jackReport This


The McCanns need to tell the truth about what happened to Madeleine.\n\nThe behaviour, blogs PR etc has made a mockery of justice and is an insult to those who follow the media.\n\nIt should not be encouraged.\n\nThere may not have been sufficient evidence to go to trial but there was more than enough to convince me that a miscarriage of justice is happening.\n\nIt is beyond cruelty. I am disgusted.
Posted By: duncanReport This

Keep bleating your mantra Gerry "No evidence of harm" Could you please also add NO EVIDENCE OF ABDUCTION as per the Police files?.\nThe only finger-prints found were KATES. The shutters WERE NOT BROKEN OR JEMMIED like you told everyone to say.\nPlease blog about the dogs findings - Who do you think died in your apartment and left 15 out of 19 markers for your daughter?
Posted By: JulieReport This

"there was "absolutely no evidence" his missing daughter Madeleine had been seriously harmed. What about the dogs findings? Why dismiss them out of hand? The media seem to dismiss these out of hand and never hardly mention them. THey are UK dogs so not as easily ridiculed as the "foreigners wot messed it all up".
Posted By: Fiona McNamaraReport This

I thought the Police files contain evidence of a dead body having been in aprtment 5A? How cna Mr McCann say there is no evidence that Madeleine came to any harm? The doges Eddie and Keela have excellent track records in this regard. The question is if it wasn't Madeleine that died in 5A then who did? SOmeone certainly did.
Posted By: JohnReport This

I would very much like Madeleine to be found, unfortunately I believe she died in Apartment 5A - dogs dont lie.
Posted By: JuneReport This

Give them enough rope and they'll hang themselves!
Posted By: JanetReport This

If the evidence of the dogs does not pertain to Madeleine, then I think the police should try to find out who DID come to harm in Apartment 5A. Whoever it was left their blood and cadaverine behind and it was picked up by both blood and cadaver dogs who have never made one mistake in 200 cases. The dogs do not lie.
Posted By: MargaretReport This

This world is a crazy place. These things can happen, i don't at all blame the parents for neglect, I feel sorry that they need to experience this cruel reality in their lifetime\nI think about that little girl everyday and i really believe she's ok\nI am sure maddie is alive and I know they will find her soon, it's just matter of time. I think the more the media shows stories on her sitings, the more she will be hidden. They need to be more smart and if they know things , just get on with following them..
Posted By: AnnaReport This

The Portuguese Public Prosecutor has made 11,000 out of 30,000 pages of the case file available to the press and I suppose to the McCanns. The other 19,000 pages remain under the secrecy of justice. On page 191, apparently, of the dossier, which the McCanns have a copy of, is the report that the couple seen in the party shop with a young child were identified and ruled out of the investigation. So, it seems rather odd that Ms Stam was invited to meet with team McCann to talk about the child who allegedly told her she had been, "...taken from my holiday." \n
Posted By: Muzzy Report This

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Madeleine-McCann-Father-Gerry-Says-Portuguese-Police-Have-No-Evidence-She-Has-Been-Seriously-Harmed/Article/200808315079300?lpos=World%2BNews_7&lid=ARTICLE_15079300_Madeleine%2BMcCann%253A%2BFather%2BGerry%2BSays%2BPortuguese%2BPolice%2BHave%2BNo%2BEvidence%2BShe%2BHas%2BBeen%2BSeriously%2BHarmed

dylan said...

Docmac, thanks. That's what I thought. Could never sleep on my back whilst pregnant anyway - too uncomfortable. Nature has a very good way of telling you what's not right ;-)

Hope, Glad you're OK. And I hope the other driver is too. Two of my three are blond/blonde so I won't hear of any Blonde/Blond prejudice ;-) Dating scene is getting very complicated. I had to send Mr Pro a nasty email as he was messing me around. Now he's being as nice as pie again and quite rude! In the meantime, I met a guy who knew me from my course in Environmental Economics. This was not through the dating agency and I really like him but my eldest daughter doesn't like him. Typical! I went on facebook this evening and Mr Pro actually messaged me. Bizarre since he ignored me for so long after our first night together and the fact that I told him I thought he was a sh*t!!!

Bit confused. I like this new guy and he's an environmental scientist too but I'm not sure how to deal with daughter not liking him. Also 4 others who have been emailing me and texing and I just want to scream at them to go the hell away and leave me alone but I'm not good at doing that! My fault. Should never have entered into the world of dating. It all seems so alien to me now and I realise that I really don't understand men. Pah!

Re the McCanns wanting to believe that M is alive and in the hands of Paedophiles, never could understand that as it's abhorrent and quite disgusting.

xx

Stonemaid said...

Some interesting posts to read today, thank you all.

Doc, you said:

"Trust me to talk earlier about the weather being perfect. Now it's bloody raining"

Sorry to hear that! It's boiling hot here in Gibraltar!! My comment earlier was based on the video of the stranded ships - which was so dark it looked almost as though it had been filmed in black and white, so I thought there must have been a turn for the worse with your weather!

Night all.

Stonemaid - born in Maidstone!!

Cláudia said...

I just read all those comments again. If it wasn't for the internet, they would not exist because people in the UK would only have had access to selected bits of information chosen to suit certain people's agendas. The fact that they are published on Sky is a huge thing. This is what certain people have been trying to prevent for quite some time. That people in the UK would speak their minds freely, think for themselves, make up their own minds. I always said that people should be careful about what they wish because it may become true. The release of the files is a great example of that. I still can't believe that is on Sky News.

dylan said...

Hi Stonemaid - ah! Now I know where your URL comes from. I've a very good friend from Maidstone who's due to return at the end of the month. I'l miss her.

Claudia, thank goodness for the internet eh? xx

dylan said...

Goodnight all & sleep well.

xx

Cláudia said...

Dyl, exactly.
Sleep tight!

docmac said...

Stonemaid, I think it was late evening and a little cloudy in the west. Certainly no rain that day. It cleared up here earlier tonight again. Here's holding thumbs.

Dylan, it's all in the first kiss apparently. If your head spins, it's a good sign. That's what I was told by a woman very close to my heart :-) The right guy will come along in his own good time. In the meantime give your kids most of your energy and attention. When the time comes you will need to explain in no uncertain terms that it is your life and you are the only one who can make the right choice.

Claudia, ola minha amiga. Boa noite minha amiga :-))))

Stonemaid said...

Hi Dylan - yes, I thought I ought to explain an otherwise rather 'cold' username!!

Claudia - you are right, it's great Skye News are publishing people's thoughts.

I rather tend to forget that we are being force-fed pink spin because I only look for Madeleine 'news' here and on 3As occasionally, although the latter annoys me a bit because there is simply too much there to navigate through it all. Otherwise it can be a mine of interesting information!

Night all.

Stonemaid
(another quirk of mine is to put my name at the bottom of posts because, for me, sometimes some posts are so long I have forgotten who has written them by the time I get to the end of the message) - just me no doubt!!

Cláudia said...

Doc, olá, meu amigo. E boa noite, meu amigo. :-)

I see you're in a romantic mood tonight. Yeah, the first kiss is a good indicator. But not the only one. :-)

Cláudia said...

Stonemaid, it's particularly interesting because Sky was once kind of a McCann sanctuary where even criticising their parenting choices had to be done very carefully.
Sleep well.

docmac said...

Yeah right, Claudia

I want to see you give a guy who slobbers all over your chin or sticks his dirty great tongue up your nose on the first date a chance to get to second base :-)))

The tongue is the most sensitive organ in the human body. Trust me, I'm a cleaner.

Boa noite x

Cláudia said...

Doc, who told you I was talking about second base? :-)

I know. And a great, very professional cleaner! ;-)

docmac said...

Oh, I see. You go straight to 8th base. I've met girls like you..

Cláudia said...

Doc, lolol.
Nope, I was talking about more mundane stuff. Sense of humour, respect and so on. You know, that stuff women also tend to value. Of course a nice ass doesn't hurt either. :-)

docmac said...

Claudia if you are smooching with guys who have none of the qualities that you mention in your last post you may end up with a Gerry :-(((((((

And he IS an ass.

Cláudia said...

LOL
Please, the words smooching and Gerry in the same post are not avisable especially at this time of night. It may cause terrible nightmares.
And I'm not on the trying stage anymore.
Smooching. Gerry. Yikes!

docmac said...

LOL

There was a post somewhere I remember wherein someone asked another poster to imagine Gerry beaming (or was it smirking)down at her while 'draining his spuds'

Crikey, even as a man that fills me with dread. Poor Kate!

docmac said...

More than 24 hours since the blog owner's last post. Must be gesuip.

Oops, roll call! Got to go for a moment to ascertain the problem. If I don't return I am not in trouble :-)))

Cláudia said...

Doc, it's time to go to bed. And I would like to sleep tonight because in a few hours I'll have to be translating. You're not helping!!! LOL
Até amanhã, querido amigo.
Beijinhos!

docmac said...

YEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAA!

ST's site is upping the hate factor. Hadn't read there in a while. Jeepers, the campaign is stepping up big time, with Gina, Bum and Anon leading the charge. Wow, do they hate me, LOL!! Those toes must be hurting when I step on them. Where's my letter? Can't wait to meet the paymaster.

To the idiot who posted that I was late with the news on the boats: I posted a link to a picture I had taken you doos. I didn't need a news item to inform me of the situation. It's just down the road.

docmac said...

Oh G-d

Bum says I wrote a biography about my mother and paid W H Smith to publish and distribute it. FFS! Then she has the nerve to say she is not as silly as I think. LOL!!

I write medical guides and textbooks, not biographies you Photoshop guru you.

docmac said...

Anonymous said...

Docmac said, "The dogs: Anyone dissing Eddie and Keela's record is either stupid or paid. Or both."
Sunday, 10 August 2008 11:19:00 o'clock BST

This fraudster should be shown the article from the Timesonline article, which quotes the dogs handlers' interpretation of the search, where they( the handlers who knows these dog better than anyone) warned, that the results should be treated with caution. They insisted that “corroborating evidence” was needed and that no “intelligence reliability could be placed on the results”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article4493335.ece?
Yet another clanger by the desperado fantasist.
Docmac, your lies and fantasies have only captured the minds of the simple and the deranged, Does this inflate your ego? or just embarrass you? I know you should be ashamed, but I think any kind of attention on you is a boost to your severe self loathing. Why is that?
Try reading instead of spouting off your tales, you may even become credible with the Hard of thinking lot.
Your use of this child, Madeleine McCann, is beyond repulsive, your need for attention and some kind of respect ( pretending to be a Doctor for 1) and constant insinuation of knowing what happened to this poor child is disgusting and should be investigated IMO .
I hope you are one of the bloggers who are being sought out by the McCanns' lawyers along with your pal Viv.( fingers crossed ).

Jo.

14 August 2008 00:41

Yes please!!!

Unknown said...

Hiya all

Just been reading only some of the posts and as there were so many great comments thought I would try and answer at least some of them, I will now carry on reading.

Thanks to you all for continuing to support this blog in opposing the lies of Kate and Gerry McCann and thereby supporting the cause of Justice for dear little Madeleine.

Your inspiration and research are so helpful to all of us and others who I know like to read this site to stay up to date and be informed in a genuine way, rather than the Murdoch (I signed a deal with Kate and Gerry and care about sensational news that really sells not dead little girls way)

Viv xxxxxxxx


Nancy

As far as I can see there have been no 'credible' leads - all the supposed 'spotters' of Madeleine have one thing in common - not one of them had the wherewithal or gumption to actually challenge or question the people who they thought were with her -

Portuguese Judge refused to disclose details of text messages..sure everyone will think there has been a cover up..

Nancy how lovely to see you back and glad you had a nice break. Everything about the McCanns and their barmy sightings leaves one with a sense of complete incredulity. Who does not carry a mobile these days? Even if you did not, who would not say, I think that is Madeleine McCann for god's sake ring the police quick! I too am concerned about certain actions by the Portuguese judiciary which seem to have stymied this investigation but I can only say that would not stymy the British Police or them getting access to all necessary records, whether the actual texts can be recovered though, I am not sure!



BTOn May 1, 2007, after the "Quiz" was finished, Najoua was invited by Gerry McCann to sit at their table, to have a drink. She was there for 15/20 minutes, between 9.30 and 9:50 pm. There was just casual talk and she doesn't know if Madeleine's mother was at the table or not.

During that period of time, nobody left the table, but there was an empty chair. Who has been sitting at that chair, Najoua didn't know.


BT This information is staggering. The 1st of May is the night Mrs Fenn said Madeleine was crying for one and a quarter hours isn't it? Najoua says there was an empty seat the whole time, could someone have been with Maddie, making her cry, Daddy, Daddy? Additionally as you say it would seem that Gerry does not have the alibi we have been led to believe, he probably arranged for this false bit of information to be leaked! I firmly believe Smith did see him carting poor little Madeleine off. It sounds to me like there was trouble every night of that holiday. On 2 May Madeleine herself said she and her siblings were crying, that night Kate was loud and out of control and then slept in the childrens' room. Kate is a petulant and angry person, was Gerry trying to wind her up, flirting with this woman? Did the row reach fever pitch and spill over into the next day..
hope4truth said...
Doc

He was going to sue me until I mentioned Viv's we did our secret handshake and no more was said LOL
The lorry is on it's way to take mine away now xxx

Oh Lol Hope, I er Hope you did not threaten to set me on him!

Were you sick of your car, sounds you did a good number on it, with the lorry having to come and take it away! Sorry, I jest, on the serious side, I am glad you are OK!!

Zodiac said

'It will be clear to everyone now, that there is absolutely no evidence that suggests Madeleine has been seriously harmed.'


DO BELIEVE THAT JUSTICE WILL BE FORTHCOMING. I DO BELIEVE THAT ALL WHO HAVE SUPPORTED THE NEGLECT OF THIS CHILD WILL GET THEIR CUMMUPPANCE. THE PUBLIC DO NOT FORGET!

'Now that the authorities are no longer looking for Madeleine'

THAT SPEAKS VOLUMES!

Hiya Zodiac that remark caught in the back of my throat too, what on earth does he mean "seriously" harmed. Is not her blood splattered on the walls and floor and the scent of a cadaver at the exact same spot evidence of serious harm? Just how serious does it have to be to concern this thing or for him to even acknowledge it ? This gruesome pair continue to live the most sickening and repulsive lie in relation to little Madeleine, who they denied even the right to a decent burial. To me Madeleine saying she and her little silblings were left alone to cry is evidence of serious harm in itself, the sort of terrifying harm children never forget. As Goncalo has said, these children were repeatedly left in danger, APPARENTLY with a sofa right underneath a window that led down to a 3-4 metre drop onto the street, enough to kill any child and he has the audacity to deny any serious harm! What would a confused and distraught child do in the dark, left to worry about two even tinier tots and looking for two slobs laughing and getting pissed with their mates?

Docmac

The sea is relentlessly powerful. It's a good place to 'lose' things.
Cláudia said...
Yes, Doc, the sea is an incredibly beautiful and powerful way for nature to show its strength. And it hides many secrets, I believe.

Doc and Claudia I can only say that sadly I agree, this has to be the place for her sickening father to say, well find the body and prove we killed her, which I have to say, for me, remains one of the worst things he have ever said, and there have been plenty of terrible remarks that demonstrate a complete lack of empathy and concern, the same as the other half of the gruesome twosome.
JJ

Thanks for the link to comments on Sky. This is the media outlet the McCanns signed an exclusive deal with… Rupert Murdoch who also owns The Sun, News of the World, The Times and Fox News in the US hence we have seen some very biased reports in these papers /channels but now I am wondering if the deal is off because the reporting does not seem quite so favourable and the comments they are allowing on Sky simply speak the truth, so well in fact, I could not resist reproducing a few here, given that such comments are being allowed on Sky and they absolutely swamp the odd comment from Psychopops and Co, I truly do believe there is no normal person left in the UK who has any belief in or sympathy with Kate and Gerry McCann, people have read what the McCanns did and formed their own very obvious conclusions, there is a limit to how much our papers can cover up and people are disgusted with the sick sightings and frivolous waste of money supposedly looking for a child who the police confirm is dead. If there is such a huge amount of money available why can the McCanns not do some good for a change and spend it on charity, they always said the remainder of the fund would be spent in this way, but we realise there never will be a remainder, not until they are arrested that is!



• Gerry, why do you not comment on the serious allegations made about you and your friend on a previous holiday? I believe this is very relevant to this case
Posted By :Georgiecat Report This
• Angela, so please explain the cadaver odour in the McCanns' apartment, on Kate McCann's clothes, on Cuddlecat, and in the car. The DNA is "inconclusive", that doesn't mean it is "no match". As far as I'm informed, 15 out of 19 markers match Maddie's DNA. \nWhere was Kate McCann's "natural instinct" when she left her two smallest alone when supposedly she was sure an abductor had just taken Maddie? Nonsense, all of it.
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• And they showed "absolutely no evidence" his missing daughter Madeleine had been abducted either. Quite the opposite in fact e.g. no jemmied windows like Gerry said.\n
Posted By :Sara Report This
• no angela a mothers natrual instinct is to look after her child which kate mcann did not
Posted By :michelle Report This
• I really don't like the McCanns----i try to be sympathetic [there is a little missing girl at the heart of this] but something just seems so iffy about the two of them---I can't help but feel completely disinterested in their plight.
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• when are these people going to face charges for the crime they commited in leaving

Unknown said...

Claudia Hun, I hope you are resting well.

I see you also posted the comments from Sky, great minds think alike. There is an absolute groundswell of public opinion against the McCanns now with the release of the files, now people realise it was not lies and innuendo as the Pink Prat/gruesome twosome repeatedly asserted, it was the truth, dogs do not lie !

Justice for Sweet Madeleine xxxxx

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