16 Aug 2008

GERRY OVERHEARD ON MOBILE SAYING MADDIE SNATCHED BY PAEDO NETWORK

Happy 4th Birthday to Madeleine - there just are no words to express this macabre spectacle really, are there? Was it the thought of the scene below and what fame and riches it could bring him that gave Gerry McCann such pure joy? Plain evil.

JUSTICE FOR MADDIE !



Could these be the trousers the PJ refer to, with the death scent on them? Kate looks very unwell in this pic..


The McCanns in the early days in PDL, clearly devastated over the loss of their daughter but comforted by the Paypal donations flooding in and their "online shop".





Gerry loudmouth McCann, wishes the worst for his daughter within just a few hours of her er apparently being snatched by a network of paedophiles. The files reveal a British tourist overheard him actually saying this on his mobile. Was he out looking for her, no of course not, he was glued to his mobile setting his sickening money spinning schemes into action. Was Kate out looking for her, no she was not as she confessed in the original interview with Jane Hill, BBC. She sat on her bed on her mobile and of course they had to prepare a script of what each member of the TAPAS would say, again, as she told Jane Hill, they were very busy. How weird Gerry just happened to have some large prints of Madeleine handy to give to the police at 2 am, where did those just come from!! But no doubt the best for the gruesome twosome as they seek to cover her death and rake in a load of cash with their disgusting claims. Even 15 months later, the couple from hell, who simply have no shame, persist with their repulsive claims. Of course he does not wish to comment on the clear evidence that Madeleine died in their apartment, well why not Mr Loudmouth? Why don't you blog about that, we would all be keen to hear your comments/.








This report also mentions details of concerns being expressed in the investigation about David Payne having an unnatural interest in children. I remain absolutely convinced the British Police and all other agencies working on this case will not be filing this case. I believe they have quite naturally taken over this serious investigation from the Portuguese authorities and a great deal of the information they gleaned from the investigation has not been made public, for very good reason, because it continues to be investigated. I say this to the McCanns, you know your daughter is dead, we know your daughter is dead and we are sick of your lies and cashing in on her death. It is time to start telling the truth or just shutting up and crawling under a stone, where you belong.








JUSTICE FOR MADDIE!








Viv x
























Correio de Manha








August 16, 2008 - 00:30 am Research: PJ followed track of 150 paedophiles Prime suspect was in Iraq The disappearance of Maddie on May 3, 2007 the Judicial Police led to hundreds of clues linked to paedophilia. The officers followed the steps of 150 paedophiles and perpetrators of crimes of a sexual nature, without, however, could establish a link between the disappearance of the child and a sexual predator. The first suspect to be followed by PJ early in the investigation was a sexual abuser of children, nationality English, fled the UK in 2005, with links to a bar located at 150 meters from where the fourth Maddie disappeared. However, the PJ to establish contact with his stepfather, who would tell investigators that the couple was in Iraq. The English authorities confirm this information and track would be abandoned. At the beginning of research, the British newspaper 'The Sun' reported that the Algarve is a refuge for paedophiles British, living in the region 130. Some came to be being interrogated by the PJ. Also a couple English suspicious about the relationship of David Payne (friend of McCann) with children, but only in October is that the British deliver information to the PJ, leaving nothing proved a link on the doctor. In the same month, following the operation 'Predador', experts from PJ observe the faces of hundreds of children on sites for paedophiles looking for a runway. GERRY EXPLICA DESAPARECIMENTO WITH PEDOFILIA A few hours after Maddie had disappeared in Praia da Luz, Algarve, her father, Gerry McCann, said in a telephone conversation that the girl English, then in three years, had been the victim of a kidnapping by a network of paedophiles. Gerry's words were later told by another English citizen on vacation in Ocean Club to Judicial Police. The tourists heard the call without that if Gerry saw their presence. PROTECTED DATA POLICE INGLESA REFUSAL The British police chose to maintain the confidentiality of the list of paedophiles referenced in the process. PRIVACY PRESERVADA The disclosure of the identities was considered an intrusion of privacy. Nothing was proved against a paedophile involvement of ears. NEW INTERROGATÓRIO Some British newspapers gave yesterday to preventing the prosecutor to a new interrogation to McCann. PRESS SKY NEWS Gerry McCann launched new call on the authorities to deliver data to help find his daughter. 'THE SUN' Official notes that research has found that the more likely it is that Maddie is dead.

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hope4truth said...

HI Viv

I have seen the picture above before but everytime I see a picture of the pair of them looking so happy and carefree I wonder again what kind of power they have over people to keep them spouting the rubbish against anyone who dares not to believe them?

Had a look at another site this morning and one idiot was having her say about Doc and his post about what had happend to Madeleine saying that a 3 year old would not know about ileagal practices. Very true she would not know I think the stupid woman simply does not understand that Doc was not trying to post something for shock value but something that if true is sickening evil and twisted and the thought that the poor child could have died in this way (or any other at the hands of her parents) makes me sick..

A 3 year old (nearly 4 as we keep being told check out the joyus pictures of her parents on what would have been her 4th Birthday)would know if something was being done to her that she felt uncomfortable with and could very well of spoken of her concerns and aksed her Mummy to help her she would not have used the words ileagla activities but I dont want to think about the words she may have used (if true) to descripe why she was scared.

Not much point going to Mummy though was there after all she told her how upset she and her brother had been the night before and Kates heartless conclusion was to do it again if she woke up distressed tough luck....

I dont claim to know what happend but reading the report (that has been made available so far a French newspaper is prining the whole thing soon) It seems to me that no abduction took place and after reading up on Eddie and Keela they have a 100% record.

If I were to doubt the findings of the dogs Gerry and Kate again show they know more than they are saying because if I were told there was evidence my child was dead and I really believed she had been taken devestation would consume me but nothing.

I could never belive all of the tapas were involved there is no secret big enough to keep all of them from not talking it was a sticking point and I could not understand it. If peadophilia plays any part in this then I guess if they are all in on it that is one reason to have a pact of silence...

The false sightings will continue forever Gerry and Kate dont want them to stop but they cant belive Madeline is really out there or they would be advertising the reward pushing it for all it was worth but nothing....

Madeleine McCann is missing she was 3 years old and after being neglected night after night by her parents vanished. Her parents want the world to belive she has been taken by a peadophile ring (and seem very happy with that thought see picture at top of page) Kate cared so little for her daughter she refused to answer very simple questions and people belive they have been treated unfairly?

Madelein was treated very unfairly and is still missing more than likely dead and my sympathy and care will always go to a child not to parents who did not even provide the care she so deserved and that each and every child deserves. It may be sick to talk about what may have happend to her it upsets me greatly but this child and all children deserve to be heard and Madeleines parents hardly mention her it is all about them (read Gerry's blogs) now that is sick....

dolores said...

Good morning all,
This is a very sad post from 3A's by a dissalusioned poster,I felt his/her pain on reading of what 2 people have caused in Portugal.


It's sad that it was necessary that a little child of three got killed by her parents' inaccuracy, for us, Algarvians, to find out that we had been used as a colony for discarded citizens of the UK, by crimes as grave as paedophilae.

Well, it's over.

I am sorry for the law abiding UK citizens, but from now on I will think twice before welcoming Brits into my country. In fact, I am going put on to the several Parliament parties a demand about a special order from the Assembly, where every British to enter Portuguese territory must display a document about his criminal record (in Portugal we have to present it in every employment we apply to, so why should they be any different?!).

I don't want another McCann in my territory, not even to respond in Court - they make me sick - I prefer that they die in their own vermin. But if they dare come across my way.....

hope4truth said...

Hi Dolores

Very sad but why should they have to put up with people like the McCann's trashing their country after neglecting their children.

It is a sad fact that this poster tar's us all with the same brush but then I dont mind showing I have no criminal record when going anywhere (the States wont let people in if they have one...

The thing that worries me most is another child will really be taken and people will just think no point looking Madeleine was not found or god forbid tar the parents with the same brush as the MCanns...

When Shannon went missing I thought her stepgfather was strange and creepy (must admit her mother played her part well) but even then people were posting it could be a hoax to get cash and I thought maybe? But I did not want to believe a child could be used in this way.

Probebly did Shannon and her brothers and sisters a favor getting them away from the Step Father and unfit Mother but god help any genuine missing child....

What a mess xxx

docmac said...

Hope, there's none so thick as those who cannot interpret the written word properly, hey? No evidence of lateral thought processes going on there..

Dolores, that is truly disturbing. However, there is similar sentiment here in the summer holidays when CT is invaded by drunken British yobs. There are many Capetonians who are praying that England do not qualify for the football world cup in 2010 I can assure you.

Viv, there is so much wrong in that picture. Smirking Gerry, beaming Kate, the fake hand holding, the deliberate 'cheap clothing' look, the Cuddlecat accessory. Can anyone explain to me the wearing of more than one wristband too? Nice watches though.

hope4truth said...

Doc

I just see people who are either really stupid and belive everything that is written in the press and hold doctors up beyond contempt which is stupid (which is why you cant posibly be a Dr in their eyes as you would have to buy into all the rubbish if you were) and they talk about us being jealous LOL

Or People who dont give a damn about a child because they can see themselves in the McCann's many holidays where the children are dumped in a creche and left alone at night while they have fun...

Read the bit about your pictures LOL some people really are that stupid..

Right off out to see a very lovely friend for the day and am very excited....

See you all later xxxx

docmac said...

Enjoy, Hope.

Yes, I remember in the DX days early on when the pro's rationale was 'well we've all done it, it's quite normal' (left kids alone while on holiday). That changed later, didn't it? It became 'well they made a terrible mistake, but blah blah blah blah bullshit'.

docmac said...

Very powerful words from a poster on 3A. Eggtimer, I salute you.

There is something very evil, derisive, disdainful and corrupt flowing through the veins and arteries of British society, through the Police, the judicial system, the media, the Government, the establishment, the medical profession, the legal profession. People of Power and Influence, chalices of evil, sin and malevolence that hide behind a mask of respectability stalking the corridors of power.

It is like a cancerous growth of immorality devouring all its touches embalming us in a monolithic web of lies and deceit.

Editors, journalists and reporters disdainfully and disgracefully insulting the "sardine-munching" Portuguese Ambassador, propagating, spreading, proliferating and promulgating absolute nonsense, rubbish, claptrap, bunkum and drivel about sightings of Maddie all over the planet. They seek her here, they seek her there, they seek her blo*dy everywhere.

All singing from the same dirty, corrupt, filthy hymm sheet in choreographed and rehearsed unison. Mocking, despoiling, disrespecting, defacing, desecrating and defiling the memory of a very young girl in sensational, insensitive, inaccurate, erroneous, moronic headlines. Supporting self-confessed child neglectors in the most bizare propaganda machine ever witnessed.

Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely. The Devil meeting the Pope in Rome and shaking his hand. Oh lord, deliver us from this evil.

To live on in the hearts of others is never to truly die………….these cowardly, malevolent, evil excuses for human beings will not live on in anyone hearts.

docmac said...

Anonymous said...

Morning Supertroll,
Yesterday I complained to Google about Viles blog. Below is the reply I received.

Hi there,

Thank you for your message. Please note that Blogger is a provider of
content creation tools, not a mediator of that content. We allow our users
to create blogs, but we don't make any claims about the content of these
pages. We strongly believe in freedom of expression, even if a blog
contains unappealing or distasteful content or presents unpopular
viewpoints. We realize this may be frustrating and we regret any
inconvenience this may cause you. Given these facts, and pursuant with
section 230(c) of the Communications Decency Act, Blogger does not remove
allegedly defamatory, libelous, or slanderous material from Blogger.com or
BlogSpot.com.
However, due to the very many complaints we have received
regarding http://justiceformaddie.blogspot.com/, we can assure you we are monitoring
its contents very carefully, and compiling a list of IP addresses of several members.


Sincerely,
The Blogger Team

16 August 2008 09:37



Erm, just two questions, if I may..

You received a reply from 'the blogger team' on the same day? LOL!

Does the bit in bold type look a little manufactured? LOLOL!!

What a plonker!

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Docmac

Off subject but may be of professional interest to you.

I don't expect a comment from you and the only comment I am qualified to make is that it was a tragedy for all concerned.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/
3596426.Little_girl_dies_after_
going_into_hospital_with_cough/

docmac said...

Hi ICTOAN

Those doctors were at fault. The parents should sue.

docmac said...

PS the anaesthetist is lying.

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Doc

Thanks.

Cláudia said...

Morning all,
Yesterday I complained to Google about ST's blog. Below is the reply I received.

Hi there,

Thank you for your message. Please note that Blogger is a provider of
content creation tools, not a mediator of that content. We allow our users
to create blogs, but we don't make any claims about the content of these
pages. We strongly believe in freedom of expression, even if a blog
contains unappealing or distasteful content or presents unpopular
viewpoints. We realize this may be frustrating and we regret any
inconvenience this may cause you. Given these facts, and pursuant with
section 230(c) of the Communications Decency Act, Blogger does not remove
allegedly defamatory, libelous, or slanderous material from Blogger.com or
BlogSpot.com. However, due to the very many complaints we have received
regarding http://www.supertroll.blogspot.com/, we can assure you we are monitoring
its contents very carefully, and compiling a list of IP addresses of several members. Moreover, after the compilation is done, vibrators will be sent to the posters in question in a last attempt for them to be in a better mood.

Sincerely,
The Blogger Team

docmac said...

Claudia, LOLOLOL!!!

I have to be off to the rugby now. I hear Newlands is preparing itself...

Cláudia said...

Doc, those people are brain dead. A few days ago a sexual predator who loved children a little too much was caught and sent to prison because a TWO YEAR OLD told her parents, using the words she knew, that she had been abused. I don't want to go into specifics but she was able to tell her parents she didn't want to go to someone's house because in that house there was a man who did certain things. The parents went to the police, exams were carried out, the man was found, questioned and sent to prison where he awaits trial.

Cláudia said...

Doc, I'm sure that must be very exciting. But I'm a football girl. :-)
Have fun.

docmac said...

Claudia

Brain dead? Yes. Heartless? Yes!

Did you miss my pun on 'Rome is preparing itself'? :-)))

There is nothing bigger than an All Black vs SA test match. Believe me.

See you later x

Cláudia said...

I must have missed it, Doc.
Yes, both descriptions fit perfectly. :-)
Are you sure? Not even a Benfica-Porto? I don't think so. :p
See you later!

nancy said...

Hi Viv -

thanks for your thread today and it gets right to the nitty gritty as usual! The teflon couple couldn't look happier if they had won the lottery could they?

You said -

"I say this to the McCanns - you know your daughter is dead, we know your daughter is dead, and we are sick of your lies and cashing in on her death! It's time to start telling the truth......"

We would all echo those sentiments Viv but of course GM knows better according to his blog. There is no proof that Madeleine is not alive and being well cared for.....what a joke - first he says she was taken by a professional paedophile gang and then refutes any suggestion that she is not being well looked after. Just who is he trying to kid, other than himself.

Stop lying through your teeth Gerry and Kate and tell us all exactly what happened on that holiday just before Madeleine's 4th birthday. If you've got the guts that is!!!

If you are so certain Madeleine is with a professional paedophile gang why not use your money and your contacts to prise them out of their hiding places by offering everything you have including the shirt on your back as a reward instead of going all out on the Amber Alert system which by all accounts is a bit like shutting the stable door when the horse has bolted.

The PJ's followed up on 150 paedophiles but just what did you and Kate do, except send messages on your mobile to make sure your story got world wide cover and fame into the bargain - was it really al pre-arranged or did you manage to think of something like that just after your daughter had gone missing? Tell us just where those A4 size photos miraculously appeared from. Your thoughts certainly weren't impeded by her disappearance then - all you thought about was making a whole lot of cash and the celebrity status that went with it.

Shame on you and your wife!!

And JUSTICE FOR MADELEINE!

nancy said...

Claudia -

So nice to see you back on the blog and I hope you are getting sorted out - I'm still trying to myself after five weeks away!

Great news (for a change) that Sky News is actually printing adverse comments on the untouchable couple!!It's about time and I think the media must know by now that most people are very suspicious of the McCanns and their tapas friends!!

Thanks for letting us read those!!


Nx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Nancy. Thank you.
I would be if I didn't have 2 translation deadlines. Yes, another one arrived before I was able to finish the first one. Sleep is now secondary. :-)
Back to words!
xxxx

dylan said...

Docmac - hope it went in SA's favour. The Kiwis are a very formidable team ;-) Re your kind wishes yesterday, don't worry. My children are very much a priority in my life. That's why I worry about their wishes. Laura is very protective of me. I don't think she wants me to have a boyfriend as she's witnessed and overheard some terrible things that have been directed at me. I don't intend to plunge into anything without my eyes wide-open and, most of all, I understand that any future partner will need to gain her trust first. I like this guy. I feel respected by him and I can actually have a converstion with him which is something that was severely lacking with my ex. When we went out for meals I used to cry because we were the only couple that weren't talking!! I'd ask an open question and he'd close it, immediately! These days I think in terms of: When I retire, can I imagine myself being happy just to chat and pass the hours away? That's what I need - a soulmate. I'm very gregarious and found myself stripped of freindship for 4 and a half long years! As far as head spin goes - well he did something to me, just can't publish it here ;-)

Viv,

THAT picture is nauseating to say the least. Why oh why do they continue to perpetuate the "Maddie is alive and well" bull? How can they be happy, smirking and smug about a child being taken by a paedophile ring? As I've said before and Hope has too, why aren't they going frantic about the evidence for death in the appartment?? I've read about parents who have lost their child and all they want is closure. To know what happened. They say it is worse not to know what happened than to know that they have died. That way you can come to terms with your grief. These two don't fit that basic pattern of parental instinct at all which is what sets them apart from the rest of humanity. No evidence for death? Well, erm, yes there is and plenty of it. Evidence for an abduction? Nope. Absolutely none at all. Not even a foreign cell to account for it.

Nancy, nice to see you back.

Hi everyone else.

Sorry for the long post. Have been busy today!

xx

dylan said...

Guys and girls,

Remember the stink that was kicked up about jews and certain comparisons?

Well here is proof of the total hypocracy of STs blog:

As they said in the Nurenberg trials:

'Following orders is no excuse, provided a moral choice was in fact possible."

So we are now being compared to perpetrators of genocide? hmmmm....black, pot, calling and kettle comes to mind. Nice one ST!
For the record, I see that NOT supporting child neglectors and murderers as being entirely the opposite. We are all here because we find child neglect distateful and wrong. What's your excuse? By the way, I am a member of Amnesty International and I totally object to this disgusting comparison you have made. Sick.

Zodiac said...

Hi all,


The pic above you can see the glee in their faces whilst doing one of their staged media walks. Her thought bubble should read as Rome prepares itself for our visit. What ugly people they are. J4M.

docmac said...

I'm back, left before full time. What a disaster for SA rugby! The coach chose the wrong horses for the course. The Boks were not outplayed and the score flatters the away side, but still. At least both BT and I were way out with the score :-))) I need a couple of beers :-)

I'm real pleased I'm not in your shoes Dyl. My older kids were the same with my ex. But then she wasted her own opportunities anyway by expecting me to return even after 8 years!

Right, off for the beer and to play with the dog.

dylan said...

Docmac - oh dear! Well they are the World's best after all! Enjoy your beer and dog (that sounds so wrong!) :-)

Have just had a read back on STs. Very funny! I am "poor Dillie" - because someone copied and pasted our posts whilst this blog was readers only - to whom ever the the dispicable tout was and to ST's bloggers in general - you will be pleased to know that i'm not "poor". I'm actualy quite happy, thank you. Just had a blip as we all do on occassions. I have three lovely, healthy, happy kids. Loads of great freinds, a loving family, a doctorate on the horizon with a trip to the Arctic, two handsome clever men to chose between and this site to post on which remains a freindly and civilised place to post without bitching (which, incidentally I deplore - bitchiness that is).

If it pleases you, I will sign off as the following:

Little snot green one
Dillie the sheep

Because I can rise above these things :))) xxxxxxxx ...and you do make me laugh xx

Cláudia said...

Dyl, lololol
When I'm finish with the translation thing and have a bit of free time, I'll do the same to cheer me up! :-)

Cláudia said...

Doc, you seem like me after watching Benfica play! :-)

docmac said...

Little snot green one Dillie the sheep

I'll have you know SA are the current world champions and before this game were ranked no1 in the official world rankings. Don't know now though :-))

Claudia I'm more of a provincial fan than a national one when it comes to rugby. Football, that's another matter. Liverpool kicking off NOW!! Life or death time :-))

BBFN!

dylan said...

Claudia, I can recommend it - my ribs are still aching from laughter! I wonder if they appreciate what genius comedy value they have? I hope ST has her particular brand patented :)

Docmac - true, but do the 'boks rate for consistant performance over the ABs historically?
I'm with L'pool BTW - g*d, I sound like Gerry now!

xx

dylan said...

Oops, forgot to sign off:

Dillie the sheep
Little snot green one

baaaaaa, sniff, atchoo!

viv said...

You lot do make me laugh, so I see ST has found herself an American statute that says google are not responsible and then claims Google are breaching their own privacy policy to collect our IP addresses. Sounds to me like someone who desperately lost the plot and knows she looks a real fool. Shame really I bet it took her desperate hours to think of another way to threaten and bully, bullies are such inadequate little people. If she is the person I have photographs of some with her children, she would be well advised to start spending her time with them, rather than being a sad stalker.

xxxx

Di said...

Good evening all

Sorry I have not been around much over the last couple of days, I am just trying to catch up.

Dyl..

Your earlier post re copying and pasteing, I remember someone posting comments from the other blog. It could have been Doc, sorry if I am wrong Doc, but the person said they had been accepted on this site and they were bideing their time or words to that effect.

Can anyone remember?

nancy said...

Hi Dylan -

That soulmate will turn up just when you least expect it! It happened to me and even though people said it wouldn't last, we have both proved them wrong!!

Even if it doesn't happen though don't dispair, women (and men) can get on very well without a romance going on, especially if they have lots of good friends which I'm sure you do as you certainly seem a gregarious person to me.

It's a bit like wanting a baby - you can try and try, and then when you stop trying, pregnancy often follows. Be happy with your kids -they are the ones who will always be there for you!

ST must have someone to pick on - that's the way with bullies - if it wasn't you it would be someone else!! Sticks and stones come to mind too!

Just off to the local villge fiesta!

See you all later or tomorrow!


Nx

Di said...

Dyl

A trip to the Arctic wow lucky you!!

Di said...

Hi Nancy

Good to see you again, wise words to Dylan.

Enjoy your fiesta, it is pooring here in Cheshire uk :O((

Di said...

Meant pouring Lol

Cláudia said...

Everytime I have a little break from my translation I refreh this pahe and you always make me lauggh! :-) Thank you, guys.

Di said...

Hi Claudia

I am not here for much longer. I am glad you enjoyed your holiday.

Cláudia said...

Di, I did. But it seemed to have ended monts ago! :-)

Di said...

Claudia

That's the problem with holidays!!

Must go now see you tomorrow.

Enjoy the rest of your evening.

docmac said...

OT I know, but what the heck.

His armband proved he was a red - Torres, Torres
You'll never walk alone it said - Torres, Torres

We bought the lad from sunny Spain
He gets the ball he scores again

Fer-nan-do Torres Liverpool's number 9.


:-))))))))))))))))))))

mandarinn said...

Hello all
How are you Claudia & Baby Sara?Baby Sara age is now count in mounth not days, she is a big girl.

mandarinn said...
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mandarinn said...

Hello all
How are you Claudia & Baby Sara?Baby Sara age is now count in mounth not days, she is a big girl.

Cláudia said...

Hi, Mandarinn.
I'm fine, thank you.
Baby Sara will be two months old on the 28th. I've been told she she eats a lot! :-) I bought her the most beautiful little blue sandals you can imagine. Just adorable! :-)

docmac said...

WOW! So the pros think Portugal has a big paedophile problem!!

mandarinn said...

Doc we can have If uk paedophils come here with no warning , as it happen in Uk.In this case it not that useful being identifyed....

mandarinn said...

* it is not

nancy said...

Hello Di!

Back from the fiesta - beautiful traditional costumes worn by most of the ladies, men, and the children looked particularly gorgeous. All celebrating their particular saint's day! The Spanish just love events like this, bands playing, food and drink flowing and everyone just lets their hair down.

Sorry your weather is bad in the UK. We were there for a month and had really good weather, al fresco dining all the time, but it changed as soon as we left according to my daughter! The thing with the UK is it can change day by day, so don't despair!!

It's a bit quiet on here tonight, so I think I'll sign off until tomorrow.

What happened to Little Grey Cell -haven't heard from her for ages - I hope she is ok!

Take care.

Nx

docmac said...

Yes Mandarinn I understand there are a number of British paedophiles in Portugal, especially in the Algarve. I think these bastards should be locked away as paedophilia is not curable.

Nancy, it's quiet from me as I'm sat outside with a pint watching the lunar eclipse :-)

Cláudia said...

Yeah, sadly we do have those bastards among us. Equally sad is the fact that we also have to put up with the British ones, whose existence in my country would be unknown if a British little girl hadn't gone missing here. Guess the list thing is not that useful, uh?
Doc, you say lock them up, I say extinguish them. They are not curable and are definately not worthy of the air they breathe. Child abusers don't deserve to live. IMO. I once met a girl (I was around 17 or 18) who was sexually abused as a child by a friend of her parents. No one ever suspected and she didn't tell anyone until she was an adult. The abuser died from heart related problems a few minutes after abusing her for the last time. Her parents mourned the loss of their friend without suspecting the monster he was. No one understood why that child was depressive since she was around 4. She tried to kill herself at least 3 times. One of them a few months after I met her. Fortunately she had a roommate who went home when she wasn't supposed to and found her locked in her room, uncouncious after taking 60 Xanax and other meds. I bumped into her on Thursday. She was apparently ok. But that emptiness in her eyes was the same. The bastard who abused her will not abuse any more children because he's dead. Can't say I'm sorry. At all.

nancy said...

Hi Docmac -

I can imagine the scene in SA - just beautiful! By the way, watch out for that witch flying by with her broomstick too!! I'm sure a few of your 'admirers' would love to get you into their cauldron!!

4 Gold medals for UK - fantastic!!


Nx

mandarinn said...

Claudia
one of the problems about to charge paedophiles as that they abuse children who are family or friends and many of the child are terrorized and don't acuse them.Many times is at school that the problem is discovred.
How many paedophiles there are is dificult to know.

nancy said...

Claudia -

I couldn't agree more. I am fully aware that many paedophiles have been abused themselves but everyone knows right from wrong and if they have problems they should get treatment instead of carrying out their depraved practices on young children. The most important thing is the protection of children and if that means giving paedophiles a lethal injection to end their misery and the misery they impart on their victims, then so be it. I feel so sorry for children who have had their lives ruined, as did your friend, because these evil people know that after a term of imprisonment they will be allowed out to repeat their dastardly acts.

Off to watch telly for a while - see you all tomorrow!

Nx

docmac said...

Ah, that was peaceful, beautiful. It's just past halfway now, but I'm tired!

Goodnight all.

Cláudia said...

Mandarinn, paedophiles should be treated like gardeners treat weed. They should be found and destroyed.

Nancy, they are just monsters. They destroy the innocent and pure. Those who trust them and who are defenceless. Coward bastards who deserve all they get.

Cláudia said...

Doc, don't you dare. You go outside and watch the rest of the damn eclipse, man!

southerncross said...

Good evening all that is still awake

Thanks Viv, very interesting articles!

Claudie, nice to read you again!
Doc, the Bokke ...the bokke :(

viv said...

Well fancy that, seems Payne may actually work with Gerry.

I was looking at Leics Uni Dept of Cardiovascular Science and it is not part of the Uni campus but based at various Leics Hospitals including Gezza's where they are going to build an excellant research facility, staffed with lovely people no doubt who enjoy sharing hols together albeit sometimes fraught with allegations and mishap..

The Department currently occupies accommodation in the Robert Kilpatrick Clinical Sciences Building at the Leicester Royal Infirmary, the Clinical Sciences Wing of Glenfield Hospital and at Leicester General Hospital. There are plans to construct a new state-of-the-art Cardiovascular Research Centre at Glenfield Hospital.

viv said...

Doc

Do you remember Mark55 saying his son was studying this at Leics and had met Gerry McCann, I wonder if he is Mr Payne, the surgeon who has not practised for years.

How shocking on that list you supplied those doctors actually convicted of paedophilia but still allowed to be registered with the GMC, you would think that would get them struck off really, there is something inherently bad about doctors regulating the professional misconduct of doctors and solicitors likewise!

Claudia Hun,

When I trained as a probation officer and after qualifying I always refused to work with sex offenders. I have met many in the past and attended Crown Court with them etc and know that is one form of crime I personally just cannot handle but neither can I handle the death sentence for anyone. I have to agree with Doc these people are dangerous to children and should be locked up, but it is noteworthy what incredibly lenient sentences they get. Paedophilia is one of those offences that is so prevalent in the middle and upper classes and so the sentences are really not what they ought to be, child protection does not seem to be of much concern! So often they are educated people teachers, computer technicians, doctors etc I also agree that often they have been abused themself as children and this perpetuates a cycle of abuse. Like domestic violence, when questioning these men it is extremely common for them to ultimately admit that is what their father did. But as you say, these people should still know right from wrong, it is the justifications and excuses they use that are so sickening. I see in that link Doc gave one man tried to blame his 11 year old son and another his parents, this is typical! But it is also typical of offenders generally that they do not want to take ownership for their own behaviour which deep down they know is wrong.

How much longer do we have to listen to Kate and Gerry, minimising, justifying, blaming others ? I wish we knew!

Viv x

viv said...

Could not resists copying this, it is so funny, as I know you scrutinise my blog ST, can I just point out libel means to defame someone's (i.e. a really, really individual person) character and therefore it is not possible to defame a police force who are not a "business" either!

Hey ho, thank goodness Kate has her Knight in shining photographic quality paper and his professional paint kit:-))))

On this blog, we will continue to support the victim, Madeleine, and the true knights in shining armour, who the McCanns do not like, the Police, especially Goncalo Amaral for giving us the truth behind the lie:-))))))

Also three cheers for the Chief Constable of Leicester Police for opposing the demands of the gruesome twosome!

Viv x

This is laughable, they do not get what they want and then the people that they have been holding up as shining lights all year, suddenly become bent and corrupt and this person Docmac and his cowardly mate ICTOAN were actually libelling the Leicestershire Police and inferring that they are corrupt too! The idiots, one day soon they will have to accept that these two are innocent and they have defamed a couple and made their lives absolute knightmare at a time when they needed support.

16 August 2008 23:35

dylan said...

Good morning all!

"knightmare" - lol! Is that a female horse belonging to a man in armour??

Re paedophiles: a really contentious issue as people (rightly) feel so strongly about it. Personally, I think castration is fitting. I don't know if it stops their urges at all but the punishment fits the crime IMO. I never did hear back from the police about that internet, bast**d paedophile that made my daughter take her clothes off which is upsetting. It would have been easy for them to access the hard drive and find him but this was months ago now and I doubt they'll do anything now.

One of the teachers whom I worked with was convicted of posessing 100s of images of school girls that he had taken on his camera and then superimposed their heads on naked bodies. I felt sick when I heard. To think I shared biscuits and conversation with this man - just horrible.

Southerncross - nice to "see" you again.

Docmac, sounds like you had a lovely evening. Lunar eclipse, beer and a win for Liverpool? You must have been in seventh heaven!

Di and Nancy - thank you for your words of wisdom :-))))

Viv - when are the pros going to get off of their libel soapbox? It's becomming a bit of a joke!

xx

dylan said...

Goodness! Just had a read of STs. Good old fashioned Sunday morning stuff you know? There's some really intelligent and kindly use of English such as "bitch" and "sicko". They must be really proud of themselves!

BTW anon, there's a difference between "chatting-up" and a bit of friendly teasing. ICTOAN started it, I believe, and I went along with it, but then we're grown-ups here and we understand the difference. I am not in the habit of romantic persuance of people on blogs. I know nothing about ICTOAN other than what he posts here and I'm not so desperate that I need to chat-up blog members!

Also, If I chose to mention my children's names on this blog I will do so. They are just names, without a surname, regardless of age. Only Viv and H4T know who I really am and I've sent H4T pictures of my kids. I don't see how that makes me a "sicko". So, here you go (there must be millions of children with these names): Sarah, Jane, Rachael, Tom, Bryony, Tracy, Sean, Rebecca, Sandra, Josh, Joe, Emma, George, Helen...... Sick, Sick, Sick! Sue me :))))

Viv, the tout has been crowing on STs site about how clever he/she is to infiltrate this blog when it was members only. What a proud moment for him/her - must have had life full of great achievements!!

xx

hope4truth said...

Hi Dyl

I am a mole and I live in a hole LOL...

We could play one of those Poirot games and the Mole is...... Viv no? err well then it must be.... Dyl no? err I am sure this time I can reveal to the world the mole is!dun dun dunnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!

So do you reckon we have a moley or ANON (there are so many with that name it is hardly origanal is it) is trying to make us all paranoid about who we trust???

If we have a mole what are they trying to achieve??? Do they want to out me??? And if so why does the fact I strongly belive that a 3year old child should have a voice and I dont belive a word coming out of the Happy Mcs pink spin Dr's mouth make me an evil Bitch?

Fair enough I can live with that if the McCanns can look so very very happy day's after their daughter went missing something is not right...

If they can try and pretend to be 50 yards away having dinner when it was over double that (although 50 yards is to far if you cant see the apartment or hear your child crying)and not take any responsibility for neglecting their children then something is not right....

And for a mother who felt no guilt a few day's after and tell's herself she is a good Mother then to only answer one question about her missing child she just does not care...

I am evil forwriting anything against the poor McCanns well I think they are discusting for not pushing the reward helping the investigation and leaving their children night after night (and Kate when convinced Madeleine had been abducted to leave the twins alone again) that is wrong....

Oh BTW I thought ICTOAN was female (no offense intended if he is not)????? xxx

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Good Morning All

I feel like I have won an Olympic Gold! Why? Because I got a mention or two on ST's site. Oh! the notoriaty of it!

Hope

I am not offended, but I am definately male. When I joined the Fire Service there were no females recruited. I can claim however to have trained the first ever person of that gender to serve in a British Fire Brigade.

hope4truth said...

ICTOAN

Well all becomes clear I can see why Dyl was flirting with you now you are not just a Man you are a Fireman (swoon)....

Glad not to have offended you I think the Fire Brigade are Hero's (and that has nothing to do with the fact you all look so good in your uniforms) :o)

Enjoy your Gold Medal for a while you deserve it LOL xxx

dylan said...

Arrrghh! Just posted and forgot to sign in - duh!

ICTOAN, should you be talking to me when you know how much I fancy you???!

H4T, don't worry about it. They are pathetic. I don't give a t*ss about what child neglect and murder fans have to say about us. Bitch and sicko are not in my general vocabulary and the words they chose to use speaks volumes about their sad, depraved little lives. Fancy having a blog devoted solely to bitching about us? The words "bullies" and "insecure" spring to mind. You are a very sweet person and I'd certainly never ascribe "evil bitch" to you. xx

ICantThinkOfAName said...

dylan

You make an old man very happy with your remarks.

Be warned however, I am much nicer in print than I am in the flesh.

dylan said...

Hope, Lol! You mole!

I think it was one of those new posters that began with:

Hi! have been reading for a long time but never posted. I really admire your site viv. Well done and keep up the good work.

Us: welcome 'x'. Welcome? my foot!

Well moley, mole - you may think that you're a brilliant subversive, detective type, but I wouldn't give up the day job just yet!

ICTOAN, it is indeed a high accolade to be included on STs. Currently we are 3rd in the olympics. I wonder if could include your gold medal? lol!
Love you lots you sexy man, you ;-)

xx

dylan said...

ICTOAN, meet me at noon under the clock! Wear that pink shirt of yours and I'll wear my purple platforms. You'll know me, I'm the hippy with the leg hair!!!

J J said...

Hello All

I have said that I don't post very often but read the comments all the time.
I'm not a mole, or a spy, honest.

That's if there actually is one of course. It could just be someone spreading mis-information to divide and conquer.

Please don't let it happen.

ICantThinkOfAName said...

dylan

Fortunatly I can wear a pink shirt as I washed a white one at the same time as my red socks.

See you there!

dylan said...

ICTOAN - lol! can't wait!!

JJ, there definately was a mole because there would have been no way the info got across in the absence of. Unless they just read back. I assume that once it went public again all of the comments were accessable. In that case not so clever!

Anon, one night with Mr Pro?? Well he's still interested so eat that! Anyway, I've got a romantic meeting to make with ICTOAN in erm...35mins. Must dash!

xx

dylan said...

Have to go now. Hot date!

Have a good Sunday all.

xx

hope4truth said...

Dyl

Have fun will we have our first forum wedding (do I need to buy a hat) LOL xxx

hope4truth said...

TO the sad Anon on Trolls site...

I have no reason to lie check out the comments on Sky and anywhere else that free speach has not been squashed.

The office I refer to has one lady who is very intrested and is always asking what is going on so I took a picture of the happy couple enjoying what would have been their daughters 4th Birthday 8 days after she had been taken by a peadophile ring (the joy on their faces say's it all) shock was probebly the best word to describe how others felt about it and I know for a fact it was coppied to take home and show various partners and friends.

I pointed these people to the 3As and The McCann Files (which is brilliant as it has everything in it)and not to Viv's for a very simple reason (I know you dont grasp things very well so let me explain) Viv's was at that time closed so there was no point telling them to read there however now it is open again I have no reason not to direct them there.

As for me being a nasty bitch (whatever) keep the comments comming I dont have much time to post at the moment but bullies and spin Dr's keep me at it.

Nasty Bitch well sum's up any Mother who would neglect her children and then not answer any questions asked by the investigating police force if Kate is inocent she has nothing to fear the questions were not dificult and as for upseting her well have a look at the happy snaps of the pair of them people really cant believe it....

So keep the nasty coments comming Anon I would have given up a long long time ago if it were not for people like you because when people have to resort to nasty comments and put downs when my main concern until I read GA's account and the simple questions Kate would not answer I was discusted by the neglect.

A 3 year old child may not be important to you but as hapless as I am I believe that children should always come first each and every time they should always have an adult who can help them not be pushed out the way and forgotten and neglected by their parents.

I dont need to lie another office were discusing the case 3 of them (and they did not know that I post about this) and they all thought something was not right and the parents were dodgey as hell (wont use thier exact words as far too rude) I pointed them to the 3A's and McCann Files as well have not been back since and dont care if they checked it out or not I am not on a campain for people to think like me but both sides should be out there not just pink spin...

Madeleine McCann is the only victim of her parents neglect and god knows what else. Gerry says he has no reason to belive she has been harmed then says he belives she is in the hands of a peadophile ring maybe he dosent think they will harm her? What they may do to the poor child I dont want to think about...

Call me a Bitch a liar whatever you want to but I would say the same to anyone's face anything I write in a blog because last time I checked speaking up on behalf of a child was not wrong...

hope4truth said...

PS Anon

I was being balanced I did tell them to read Gerry's Blogs his words I know he deleted them all but obviously he wanted people to read them so the McCann Files should help...

Cláudia said...

Viv, I'm also against the death penalty as a general principal. In fact, I'm very proud because my country was the first one in Europe to abolish the death penalty. But I have to confess that paedophiles make me think twice. I've seen the results of their sick actions. My rational side tells me that noone has the right to take a life, not even the state. But when it comes to sexual predators who ruin children's lives I have to confess that many times I think to myself: who cares?
That is the most despicable crime in this world.

nancy said...

Hope -

Very well said - the 'nasty bitch' is the one who said that about you, and applies as you said to a mother who can wear a carefree smile on her face eight days after her little daughter has, according to the McCanns, been abducted by a paedophile gang, but then that's quite a mild comment coming from the viper's den!

Sticks and stones .........

Cláudia said...

Guys, since when do you waste time with a little piece of shit under your shoe? When you accidentally step one, you get rid of it and you go on walking. :-)

hope4truth said...

Hey Nancy

Sticks and stones indeed..

When I saw the photos I tried to reason that maybe it was a snapshot in time so I looked futher and no when you look at the sequence they are really happy not brave smiles truly joyus...

Then I am such a nasty piece of work and cant imagine ever being really happy again if my child were missing...

xxx

Joe said...

No matter what the Pro lot say, there is no getting away from the 48 unanswered questions from a mother who cares. It is out there now in the public domain as fact that KM refused to answer appropriate questions. IMO she will never live it down as it defies belief. Being a de-arguido appears has led to the facts coming out and poor old pinky is struggling to keep the lid on, the latest the claims about the 24 photos, clearly rattled in his little pink pram.

mandarinn said...

Good afternoon
IMO the wondecouple are so paranoid that thought files being in public domain could be manipulated by mr. pink. They forget the wideworld is not controlled by uk press.
Now they are not arguidos and the files they wanted so much to see are available to everyone .
They must to feel happy....

Cláudia said...

Mandarinn, yep, happy, happy, happy. ;-)
Back to the damn translation! :-)

hope4truth said...

Joe

Little Pink Pram LOL

mandarinn said...

Hi Hope, how are you doing?Did you go to Farden center lastly? :))))
Today i'm going to Shoping center maybe i buy something to myself.... winter is coming lolo

hope4truth said...

Hi Mandarinn

No farden centres for me this week LOL

It is winter here (well if feels like it) enjoy your shopping trip xxx

nancy said...

ICTOAN -

You are a fireman!!!

Be still my beating heart!!!

I must put aside my prejudices and take a look at the ST site to see if I warrant a mention!!

I think we should start a contest to see who gets the most mentions on the ST site over a month and award the winner a date with ICTOAN, unless it's him of course and then he can take his pick of us ladies! I would warn you in advance though OCTOAN, you would have a job carrying me out of a burning building!!

nancy said...

I had a quick look at Supertroll.blogspot.com. which should be renamed 'Supertroll on JFM/Anonymous.blogspot.com' bearing in mind it's all about us and the main contributor seems to be 'anonymous' who is obviously too timid or too ashamed to use his or her name!!

I must admit to being a tad surprised to see Gina's occasional contribution. I know she is on the fence about what happened to Madeleine and lost her cool on here, but I always thought she came over as a lot more intelligent and friendly than the pros who used to send their poison tipped arrows towards us antis on the Daily Express. I used to enjoy Gina's input on there because she always stood up to their attacks. I get the feeling from her posts on Troll's blog that she is still not a Kate and Gerry McCann fan!

The McCanns are no longer arguidos but still remain tight lipped and CM is still earning a sizeable sum of money talking for them, money that could be spent on looking for Madeleine methinks!! It must be a bit like a baby giving up his dummy when you think about it - not easy!

JUSTICE FOR MADELEINE!

nancy said...

As regards the 'mole' - we have had a few people popping in with just one or two blogs and then disappearing, so it's probably one of them who have tunnelled their way in and out to reveal all!!

Has anyone heard from LGC by the way? I hope she is alright!

Re the contest on Supertroll mentions - it will undoubtedly go to Docmac - closely followed by Viv!! Fame indeed!!

Zodiac said...

Hi all,

Just off to read the posts.

Nancy,

'The McCanns are no longer arguidos but still remain tight lipped and CM is still earning a sizeable sum of money talking for them, money that could be spent on looking for Madeleine methinks!! It must be a bit like a baby giving up his dummy when you think about it - not easy!'

Given what this guy is paid for being the mouthpiece of the parents who neglected their 3 children aged 3 and under, it merely emphasises how disgusting it is that the neglectful parents did not pay for a baby sitter whilst on holiday. If they had put child safety before themselves the World would not be being subjected to this ghastly charade and perhaps this child would now be 5 years old however imo probably left behind again with her siblings whilst on holiday while the parents indulged in 'me time'.

nancy said...

Zodiac -

Well it's obvious that the McCann's thought only about themselves and the money for a baby-sitter could be better spent on a few tapas or a bottle of wine! Outrageous and it should not be forgotten how cavalier their attitude was then and still is!

There is an article on McCann files regarding the 24 photos taken by a foreign tourist - a Mr Levy - who was asked to sell them to a well known firm of Lawyers, but he made it a condition that they show the police first which they refused. Apparently Kate McCann had changed clothes along with another tapa pal.

CM said, in his usual pompous way - "Kate and Gerry are annoyed and upset that he (Levy) is seeking to make money out of Madeleine. It is a disgrace!!

Well doesn't that beat all!!

Zodiac said...

Nancy,

She changed clothes! Was that before 10pm when she did her supposed check?

As for paying for a baby sitter. My own personal opinion is it does not surprise me that they did not pay, the accom they were staying in was most definitely not 'luxury'. I believe they would like the public to think 'luxury holiday' and they were very wealthy.

viv said...

Hiya all

Well one of the 48 questions Kate refused to answer is (not verbatim) is it right that you considered transferring custody of Madeleine to a relative?

Now if a police officer had said that to me, frankly, I would have been simply furious and he would most definitely have got an answer!

It is an extremely loaded question, so you wanted to get rid of Madeleine, didn't you? It is a standard rule of evidence that if someone refuses to answer a relevant allegation, then that must be because the allegation is true and a court can therefore make the appropriate finding of fact in relation to that matter. It was clearly recorded that part of the work UK Police were doing was background checks in the UK to inform the investigation and this is obviously where this information came from.

We have to face the sad fact, Kate did not like Madeleine and did not want her. I have never met a child, aged 4 who is not a right little handful, the thing is I do not think she got the help with Madeleine and the twins that she obviously needed and that built into a lot of resentment about a child who "cried for 18 hours a day" and "shrieked for attention, when I was feeding the twins".

Whose decision was it that Kate should so quickly have treatment to have further children when she could not handle the one she already had and had such clear feeling so resentment towards her? Who is the person who always remain unfazed and thinks he can cope with anything?

There may be a perpetrator but where does the blame really lie? Perhaps in a cold and callous person who has not empathy and offers no help or understanding. Someone who just added to and allowed a disastrous situation to continue to develop. Someone who claims to love his twins but never thought what he was also doing to them.

Viv x

Cláudia said...

Nancy, Mr Levy, Duarte Levy is not the turist. Mr Duarte Levy is an investigative journalist and doesn't have any photos, unlike what The Shitty People printed. However, he is aware that there is a turist (who had his camera stolen and only recovered it a long, long time later) who is in possession of those photos. But as he was the one who broke the news he already is the target of a campaign initiated bt The People. The photos, believing they exist, allegedly show that K changed her clothes that night. The interesting part is that the pink one doesn't deny it. He says he doesn't know if she changed clothes or not but if she did, 'so what'? So what? If true, was that info given to the police? Because from what is known from the files, K never left the table at all except at around 10 when she found Madeleine missing.

Zodiac said...

'So what?' sounds a bit like M was not bothered about being left alone crying with her brother and no one came!

The arrogance of this lot is disgusting hopefully justice will be forthcoming and shut the lot of them up for good not just verbally!

J4M

viv said...

Hiya guys

The photographs development is very interesting and how disreputable for their lawyers to try and buy the evidence against the gruesome twosome! I am sure the Police will have something to say about that, not that we will get to hear about it.

I recall there was a German witness (I think) who said that Kate was back at the apartment much earlier that evening. Did she go for a cuddle? To suggest she would not be forensically aware given her job title would be naive, so she changed her clothes. It all fits to me with her then wailing, they have taken her. True she may not have wanted Madeleine, but the terror and the finality of what happened to the child she bore, finally hit home. I think Gerry would have been very annoyed with her silly display of emotion!

Viv x

dylan said...

Hi all,

Nancy, nobody can have ICTOAN except me. He's mine. I met him and he was wearing a lovely pink shirt ;-))))

Viv, your last comment. I can only concur. Kate saying "they've taken her" was a slip-up IMO. I think I've said before that she wasn't expecting M to have been taken by then and the cries were genuine shock or she was expecting the absence of Maddie but wasn't prepared for how it felt. Interesting that she changed her clothes. She doesn't strike me as a wardrobe ditherer!

Pros: come and get me! I want to win this competition so I can keep my man :-))))

xx

viv said...

Hiya Zodiac

I have to agree the McCanns were not wealthy at all, in fact they were near broke with a massive £2000 a month mortgage on a home they plainly could not afford.

The holiday in PDL was not bargain basement but neither was it a luxury holiday either that rich people would take. I think with the McCanns having the trappings is very important to them, this demonstrates the underlying problems with their relationship and their characters.

viv said...

I meant to add, I think the budget was built on the basis Kate would work far more hours as a GP, but she simply was not well enough and ultimately reduced her hours to just one and a half days a week. This caused a lot of financial problems and is at least part the motivation behind their conduct with Gerry in particular needing to have all the trappings of wealth and power which he does not get from his job. But he had a wife who was not coping and he does not have the emotional intelligence to help or consider the trappings of wealth do not actually make you a better person or make people respect you any more.

Di said...

Hi all

Viv

I think you are right, Kate could not cope with 3 very young children. What a pity Gerry put tennis before his wife. Perhaps if he had helped out more the outcome would have been very dufferent.

Hi Dyl

Don't let them get to you.

As far as Gina is concerned, I am also surprised that she blogs on there, yes she was a fence sitter, but also on DE made some very good points, I agree Nancy, Gina never seemed favourable towards the McCanns. Anyway each to their own.

LGC, I agree where are you????

Di said...

different :o))

Joe said...

Whether the 24 photos exist or not is the question? I think that Pinky was clearly taken off guard, as Pinky likes to think she is the ringmaster.

It is pathetic the likes of Pinky accusing others ,this time Mr.Levy of making money re Madeline, Pinky is doing his stirring for nothing I suppose, is he not ashamed of himself using Madeline as his meal ticket, no matter who pays the old pink hack, whoever it is should ask for their money back.

Its wonderful to see real questions being asked by bloggers and if the photos do exist and are passed to the Police and printed then there will IMO be several more changes of clothes, particularly undergarments.

Di said...

Hi Joe

I don't know what to make of the photos, could it be pink spin??

As Claudia says, Levy does not have the photos, a tourist does.

If these photos do exist and Kate did change her clothes, it would be interesting to see if the ones she changed out of were the ones with cadavar scent on them.

ICantThinkOfAName said...

dylan

Thank you for a very pleasant afternoon. Don't worry about the muted competition. Much as I respect him, I don't look upon Doc Mac as a suitable date.

Di said...

ICTOAN


All I can say is wow a fireman, respect!! for a very dangerous job.

Can we perhaps ask for a calendar like the WI did!!! It would be very much appreciated :o)))

ICantThinkOfAName said...

di

I don't know if it is still ongoing, but my daughter in law used to display such a calendar in her kitchen for a number of years. I will make enquiries.

Age is now against me being a suitable model as my figure is more akin to my previous avatar.

nancy said...

Dylan -

OK, I give in, you were first in the queue after all! Anyway, I'm off of pink shirts - seen too many of them on CM!

Di -

Those two put themselves before their children without a doubt. Many people are hard up and can't pay the mortgage but they don't cash in on their own kith and kin and then they have the cheek to complain when a complete stranger follows their tatty example.

Why is it they can't seem to comphrehend what a dastardly thing they all did leaving their kids in such a vulnerable situation. Not one word of real remorse from the McCanns or their tapas pals - they are just worried about their own necks and have been from the moment Madeleine disappeared.


Viv -

Kate McCann screaming out 'they've taken her' has always seemed phony to me. Why 'they', why not 'someone'? You wouldn't automatically assume there was more than one abductor would you. You would think it was one person, unless you had heard that paedophile gangs were operating in the area and then surely they wouldn't have left their children in such a vulnerable situation!

I just wonder who she mean't by 'they'!!

No wonder they rarely speak for themselves and need a paid dummy.

Nx

Di said...

Hi Viv

Exactly, a paid dummy and why now when they can speak, as their arguido status has been lifted do they need Clarry, Why can't they speak for themselves??

nancy said...

Claudia -

So the non-thinking man's newspaper, the People, are doing what they normally do, i.e. raking over what mud they can to stick on whoever they have a grudge against at any particular time.

I just hope the 24 photos will get into the right hands, i.e. the police, instead of somehow being whoosh-clicked away by those clever dick lawyers of the McCanns!!

And as for CM to say, 'so what!' to Kate changing her clothes that evening, shows that he was momentarily lost for a convincing response because he wasn't given the time to think one up!

Yes, it could be for any number of reasons, but surely she should have revealed this in her statement to the PJ's! Of course it could be she didn't want them to know!

Di said...

Nancy

Exactly..

Was it not also said another member of the party also, had changed his clothes!!

Off now, enjoy your evening everyone.

nancy said...

Di -

Of course - and I'm sure our two minds think alike on that one!

Have a good evening yourself!


Nx

Cláudia said...

Nancy, everytime anyones gets close to stepping on their toes, one of their puppets working on the media takes care of business. But they certainly don't know Mr Levy. Something tells me that this will only make him work harder than ever. Let's call it an extra motivation. :-)

Ecolab said...

From me to all of you(Disney)

pretty colours

but shit talk from Scam McCann

docmac said...

Nice one, ecolab!!

I particularly liked this one from Kate:

I know that what happened is not due to the fact of us leaving the children asleep. I know it happened under other circumstances.

Does that mean what I think it means?

I then went back to the article from whence it came and I found this pearler immediately prior to that:

I went through a phase of guilt for not knowing what happened to her. I blamed myself for thinking that the place was safe. But the certainty that we are truly responsible parents has helped me carry on."

And hello, what's this then?

The revelations come as police said they were trawling through Kate's medical records amid suspicions in Portugal that she may have had a history of depression.

The detailed analysis of her medical notes could provide them with significant evidence against the GP, who is a suspect in the case of Madeleine�s disappearance.


I though the police could not access any of their records?

Anyway, this was just a quickie, a brief and clumsy flirtation on a drunken Dubai night..
Goodnight.

Joe said...

Kate McCann from Ecolabs post on the 3A site...


I went through a phase of guilt for not knowing what happened to her. I blamed myself for thinking that the place was safe. But the certainty that we are truly responsible parents has helped me carry on."
======================================

Golly, I have heard of absolution, but self absolution?.....remarkable!

dylan said...

Docmac, lol! & cheers Ecolab. Such technicolour reading too!

ICTOAN, don't worry. I had such a good afternoon and loved your particular shirt colour of "hint of sock" so much, I don't think Docmac could woo me away from you if he came over here with a thousand brown envelopes and some reasonably decent, expensive tennis shorts!! (all kept in a blue holdall don't ya know!)

Where is LGC?? Anybody know that she's ok? We're missing her.

xx

dylan said...

Joe - "truly responsible parents" my ar*e! Well if it makes Kate feel better.......

Night all, sleep well. Monday tomorrow!

xx

viv said...

Hey Ecolab what a lot of hard work you must have put in to producing all that sick self serving rubbish from the gruesome twosome.

It is such an excellant post it deserves to be all over the internet, not just on the 3As and is certainly going on here:

People need to be reminded of just what it is these two have to say::

CHEERS ECO! VIV XXXXX

Eco said on 3 As :

We want a big event to raise awareness that she is still missing, It wouldn’t be a one-year anniversary, it will be sooner than that (June 3, 2007) ----------------------------------I have no doubt we will be able to sustain a high profile for Madeleines disappearance in the long term. ------------------------ ----------The situation that Madeleine finds herself in. ------------------------ ---------- We have done nothing against the law. ---------- ------------------------Makes you think, why the twins did not wake up, they, he must have sedated them----------------------------------After 5 or 6 weeks things went very quiet and I was actually quite glad of that, we could get back to a more normal existance and a quieter form of campaigning... broader political issues, etc. ------------------------ ----------Kate and I are totally 100% confident in each others innocence. ----------------------------------I know 100 per cent Kate could NOT have done anything. I know that's true from what I did that night...and in terms of what Kate knows about me, I was away from her for just ten minutes. ------------------------ ----------It seems like a disaster that we've got this huge donated fund and now we're not allowed to use it for legal costs because we're under suspicion." ---------- ------------------------We are being absolutely stitched up. ------------------------ ----------Haven't I suffered enough without all these new lies coming out? ---------- ------------------------At worst we were naive. ---------- ------------------------Mr Mitchell hit back: "It's a great shame that people seem more interested in making money out of Madeleine's disappearance instead of helping the search for her." ------------------------ ----------Kate and Gerry are not accused of any crime whatsoever. Neither is there any suggestion that any charges are being considered. ----------------------------------The iris is Madeleine's only true distinctive feature. Certainly we thought it was possible that this could potentially hurt her or the abductor might do something to her eye. But in terms of marketing, it was a good ploy. ---------- ------------------------We have been advised our behaviour was legally well within the bounds of responsible parenting and have been assured no action will be taken. ------------------------ ----------One good thing to come out of all of this is that there is so much in the press, nobody knows what is true, and what isn't. ----------------------------------Kate and I have to concentrate on our own well being. ----------------------------------we are hoping for the best possible outcome for us .... and Madeleine.. ---------- ------------------------If the worst happened...at least she will be in a better place. ------------------------ ----------It could have been worse, we could have lost the twins too. There were three children in the room. That's the worst nightmare. ------------------------ ----------Madeleine was everything to us. ------------------------ ----------It cannot be considered a crime. Someone committed one, but not us----------------------------------.I know that what happened is not due to the fact of us leaving the children asleep. I know it happened under other circumstances. ------------------------ ----------Whoever Madeleine's with she'll be giving them her tuppence worth. ------------------------ ----------We're good parents, not suspects. ---------- ------------------------It was really just like being in your back garden. ----------------------------------I wish I could roll back time and go back to the day before Madeleine was abducted. I would slow down time. I would get a really good look around and have a really good think. And I'd think: Where are you? Who are you? Who is secretly watching my family? Because someone was watching my family very, very carefully. And taking notes. ----------------------------------This is my job now. I can see this becoming my full-time career, with this whole issue of child welfare and opposing paedophiles. ----------------------------------No decision has been taken on Kate's future yet. She hasn't approached, or been approached by, any children's charities. ---------- ------------------------It is true that we have requested a meeting with the prime minister to show him the strength of our case, to explain Kate and Gerry's innocence and yet all we've been offered is a medium-level-consular meeting, which we rejected. ----------------------------------I think that is a very small minority of people that are criticising us. ---------------------------------- "However, Kate and Gerry and their friends welcome the police interviews. The friends are more than happy to co-operate fully, as are Kate and Gerry, although in this case Kate and Gerry will not be re-interviewed." ------------------------ ----------" This has not been requested but Kate and Gerry would have agreed to answer any questions had they police wished to put anything to them. ----------------------------------We'll do everything we can to find Madeleine; she deserves that. ----------------------------------There's not a day that goes by that I think to myself why did I think that was okay? Was I wrong in thinking that was okay? All I can think to myself is I know how much I love my children, and I know I am a responsible parent. ----------------------------------"There is a wholly innocent explanation for any material the police may or may not have found"----------.------------------------This appears to be another disgusting attempt to make money out of their plight." ------------------------ ----------"An outcome similar to Holly and Jessica is possible. I don't want to, and I can't, talk about Robert Murat but some journalists who worked with me in Soham, and that were now in Portugal, saw resemblances between that case and Robert Murat. And I won't say more." ---------- ------------------------They don't cry in public, but plenty of tears are shed 'backstage'. ---------- ------------------------Kate and Gerry are realistic enough to know that Madeleine may be dead and it would be a tragedy that she is found as such, because it rules out the hope that she is alive... But any widening of the search area is encouraging and we would welcome that. If she is dead then she is dead, but not by their hand.

viv said...

Guys I think we hurt the Pink Prat's feelings, did you notice he finally dumped all those pink shirts:-)))))

Right that's it, I have will give them Pink Wan***, Now Just How Very Dare They, do they not realise just how important I am xxxx

viv said...

well Ludicrous have not and will not be anything but a laughing stock.

Why do the McCanns still "need" him, because they know they are still suspects:-)))

How every cerlever of them:-)))))

Cláudia said...

Viv, I also have a similar thread on my blog I just put up. It still amazes me how they could say certain things. Spechless comes to mind.

docmac said...

Hey, it's a threesome, lol!

My dog was moaning constantly and I got up thinking she wanted to go out for a late night piddle. Then I discovered I had forgotten to take her toy monkey that she sleeps with off the washline :-)))

Cláudia said...

Doc, :-)

docmac said...

Claudia, hehe. She is very happy now so I'm going back to bed. By the way, I did a bit of digging earlier and uncovered a mole. I'm quite disappointed with that person, really. It's not who I thought it was initially, though I had expressed my doubts before. Still, no big deal. Each to their own I suppose. Does make them look pretty foolish thoough.

docmac said...

That would be though without the two eyes :-)

Boa noite.

Cláudia said...

Doc, remember what I told you. :-) Noise.
Dorme bem, querido amigo. :-)

viv said...

Well huns, I am still trying to figure out who said they are a prison officer, OMG all those jangling keys and cockroaches and uniforms and OMG:-))))))

viv said...

Thanks querida I went and had a read and it has your usual brilliant style in so succinctly making a cutting point, I love it. Have left a post and then even translated on google to be told my post will be checked by the blog owner, so dont let me down Hun and get doing a ST on me xxxxxx

viv said...

and this is what Gerry actually wanted Murdoch to print in the NOW. I wonder, with the benefit of hindsight, does he regret that now? Enough evidence to charge us.. intermittent grief and pain, in September?? Grief?? Fighting for their lives, what about little Madeleine's? Never crossed his mind, just cash tills ..


Now we're fighting for our lives
By Sara Nuwar, 09/09/2007

ANGUISHED dad Gerry McCann fought back last night after he and wife Kate were named official suspects over Maddie, and declared: "We're entirely innocent. But now we're fighting for our lives."
The 39-year-old heart surgeon vowed to take on the Portuguese legal system and insisted: "We did NOT kill our daughter! We WILL clear our name and we will NOT give up on Madeleine."

And it was revealed early today that the couple are to leave Portugal this morning, with their two-year-old twins, Sean and Amelie.

The McCanns spokesman said: "It is emphasised that their return is with the full agreement of the Portuguese authorities and police."

Earlier Gerry confessed the couple are bracing themselves for still more shock twists in the four-month investigation. And he revealed how he:

BACKS wife Kate 100 per cent.

FEARS cops are under too much pressure to come up with a result.

HARBOURS serious doubts about the Portuguese legal system— which tried to wheedle a confession out of Kate by offering her a light jail sentence.

KNOWS that, amazingly, under local laws they may have cobbled together enough to charge them.

Despite his refusal to buckle under the growing pressure, Gerry admitted: "We thought we were in our worst nightmare but now it just keeps getting worse and worse.

"It's such a vulnerable position. It's appalling. We've never had to say it until now...but we did not kill our daughter. I never believed it would come to this.

"But when the paranoia sinks in, you're under severe pressure and things are going down a certain line, then it does look bad.

"In a system that you don't know and you don't really trust it's incredibly frightening."

Gerry spoke out after he and Kate endured a tense grilling by detectives and were officially labelled ‘arguidos'—Portuguese for suspects.

The couple were quizzed in the town of Portimao—30 miles from the Praia da Luz holiday apartment where Madeleine vanished on May 3—for a total of 24 hours.

Legally, Gerry is now barred from talking about the detail of the inquiry.

He is not allowed to explain why police now suspect him, or rebuff the new evidence they believe they have unearthed more than 100 days after Maddie went missing.

Although he is "absolutely confident" there is no evidence to link him and Kate with any suspicion of murder, Gerry admitted the latest twist of events had left him with "anxieties".

"I don't need to tell you how things don't stack up," he said.

"I know 100 per cent Kate could NOT have done anything. I know that's true from what I did that night.

"And in terms of what Kate knows about me, I was away from her for just ten minutes."

Gerry and Kate, who continues to hold on to Maddie's favourite Cuddle Cat toy for comfort, have always said that they put their three children to bed in the apartment at 7pm.

They told police that at 8.30pm they went for a meal with a group of friends in the family resort.

Each adult in the party of nine took turns to check on the children.

Gerry denied he would have had time to hide a body, if as police suggested, he or his wife had killed Maddie by accident.

"As I said, I was away from the table for ten minutes," he said. "Six minutes of that was spent speaking to another guest I met as I came out from checking on Madeleine.

"All of this can come out. And it doesn't stack up." But friends fear there is now evidence that raises suspicions about the McCanns' chronology of events.

They worry that any apparent discrepancies in timings are being given undue weight by police.

Nevertheless they are convinced such doubts can be blown out of the water.

And Gerry could only say: "I hope that the due diligence and processes will win through in the normal way and not the need for a result."

He said the Portuguese police's attitude towards him and Kate had shifted in the last five weeks.

There has been a steady stream of slurs against them in the local and national Portuguese press.

The Leicester couple's family in the UK believe these came directly from police sources.

The McCanns now fear the cops may be about to arrest and charge them. Gerry told us: "Our lawyer said the weight of it is that, under the Portuguese legal system, they've got enough to move forward against us."

Then he revealed they may consider flying in a crack legal team from the UK to assist their Portuguese advisor.

But he confessed he is frustrated they are not allowed to use any of the £800,000 Madeleine Fund— boosted by celebrity appeals including Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling and soccer star David Beckham—to pay their mounting legal bills.

"It seems like a disaster that we've got this huge donated fund and now we're not allowed to use it for legal costs because we're under suspicion," said Gerry.

"I never really imagined we'd be in this situation.

"And it could get worse I suppose. But ultimately if it comes to that, sooner or later, there'll be a formal process whereby we can rebut things in court. Then it will all come out.

"We'd have to be patient but ultimately we'll have the opportunity to have all of the evidence examined and discover the whole picture about what happened.

"And that's what's sustaining me. At least now we've got a clearer view of what we're up against whereas what we had before was smear and innuendo.

"We know what we have to fight now. The problem is we DO have a fight, but before I wasn't quite sure.

"You get paranoid when there's a political shift. Because of the amount of pressure there's been on the Policia Judiciaria, and all the criticism, you always wonder how far they'll go.

"Now I've seen what they've got I'm actually clearer in my mind why they've shifted and treated us so differently.

"I'm still concerned with their perception of the evidence, but that's for us to sort out with legal support." Gerry then voiced their other big concern now that the spotlight has turned on him and Kate.

"It's a real double-edged sword," he said. "While this investigation focuses on us it's NOT focusing on looking for Madeleine."

He admitted the last few days of gruelling police interviews had been draining on the couple.

But he said that despite everything Kate was coping under the strain.

"I'm thinking clearer this morning," he added. "What we're negotiating with the police is to be allowed to go home to the UK.

"We're desperate to get back for the kids' sake and for emotional reasons.

"It's not that we're running away. If there are two people in the world that can't run away it's us. Anyway, we have to move accommodation because the lease on our villa is up this week.

"The trouble is I don't know how long all this is going to take. It's four months already. Everything is slow. It's just the culture. Kate's not too bad, though. In fact, she's pretty resilient.

"But when we were trying to decide whether to return to Britain that's when this smearing started in the papers. And Kate just thought, ‘They want us out!'

"I said, ‘Kate, there's no point in staying if it's counter-productive.'

"She realised that was right but the thought of returning home brought back all the emotions of pain almost as bad as the first few days after Maddie vanished. That sense of loss and the thought of never seeing her again.

"Kate gets that more than I do. It's still intermittent grief and pain."

viv said...

Heart surgeon, you cannot beat a bit of self-elevation, in any case would you want him to operate on your heart!

Viv x

dylan said...

Good morning all,

Viv, thanks for the above. It's totally loaded with self pity, IMO, and deliberately so to divert any suspicions as to their reasons for leaving Portugal. The slurs were already out before they became arguidos so why decide to depart after the event? If I recall correctly, the first sign that things weren't right is when the PJ refused to give the McCanns forensic information. This came a couple of days before they were interviewed again. They must have had their suspicions as to why they were not given the information.

Off to have a look at Claudia's. It's a rainy day here today :-(

Docmac, your dog story - cute :-) Any way you could email us your mole suspect? I'm dying to know who it is!!

xx

nancy said...

Buenos dias everyone! Lovely day here in the Costa Blanca - I hope it is wherever you are!

Thanks Viv, Ecolab and Docmac for the 'reminders' of the McCann's anguished comments about the disappearance of Madeleine.

Whoever advised them that their behaviour came within the boundaries of responsible parenting is obviously not a parent themselves and should be called to account for that remark that gives other irresponsible parents the go ahead to do the same thing!

Gerry's hapless comments:

"Kate and I have to concentrate on our well being - we are hoping for the best possible outcome for us"!

Well they have done exactly that - famous and wealthy now of course - couldn't get more 'well being' than that!

"I 'know' that what happened is not due to the fact of us leaving the children asleep. I 'know' it happened under other circumstances.
I 'know' 100% that Kate could not have done anything. I 'know' that's true from what I did that night"

What do you mean Gerry?

How do you 'know' exactly? If you 'know', then tell us what the exact circumstances were. And we would all like to 'know' what you did that night!

He also 'knows' that, amazingly, under local laws they may have enough cobbled together to charge them! Why 'amazingly' - they left their young children alone and Madeleine disappeared because of that, so why does he think it would be 'amazing' to be charged for that!

"There is a sense of loss at the thought of never seeing her again -Kate gets that more than I do."

Really, why would that be? - you are both Madeleine's parents!

"It's still intermittent grief and pain"!

'intermittent'grief and pain! Well that says it all - how much time passes without thoughts of Madeleine then in between that 'intermittent' grief and pain! If that were a daughter of the majority of us, it would be 'ongoing - continuous' grief and pain!

I sometimes wonder if these two are robots - you wind them up and they say the first thing that comes into their heads! It's no wonder they have to rely on a spokesman!! I wonder what sort of tangled web they would spin if they spoke (without a script) for themselves. I doubt it will ever happen though.

dylan said...

Hi Nancy!

It's this bit that gets me:

"I 'know' that what happened is not due to the fact of us leaving the children asleep. I 'know' it happened under other circumstances.
I 'know' 100% that Kate could not have done anything. I 'know' that's true from what I did that night"

Now if it didn't happen due to them being left asleep on their own (it would be if it were an abduction) then what are the alternatives I wonder??

Docmac, I have an inkling if the "two eyes" was a clue??

xx

isis said...

Morning everyone, this was posted on the 3as a few days ago , it is an old but interesting read.......'I have a terrible nagging doubt the McCanns might be involved'
By DAVID JONES
Last updated at 00:36 08 September 2007


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David Jones

Almost four months have passed since I first began to investigate the harrowing case of a beautiful little girl who appeared to have vanished into thin air, shortly after being tucked up in bed by her parents on holiday in Portugal.

Like a great many people in Britain, and millions more around the world, I have since become fascinated, almost to the point of obsession, with the Madeleine McCann mystery.

I have travelled repeatedly to the Algarve to interview potential witnesses and suspects; retraced the abductor's possible escape routes and explored all manner of theories.

And I end most days by reading the strangely breezy and matter-of-fact web-log kept by Madeleine's surgeon father, Gerry.

My curiosity has been heightened at least partly because those haunting last photographs of a beautiful, carefree child playing in the sunshine resemble so many treasured pictures in my own family album.

As a father of four, I can also identify with the dilemma that apparently confronted Gerry and Kate McCann on that fateful May evening in Praia da Luz. How do you enjoy an evening out with friends on holiday, and keep your toddler safe?

Yet something else has kept me utterly absorbed in Madeleine's case, and it is certainly not the McCanns' moth-to-a-flame courtship of the media (their latest interview, with Paris Match, is due to be published imminently).

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United front: Kate and Gerry McCann have never hesitated to face the cameras together

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Madeleine: Shattered Gerry and Kate McCann BOTH declared suspects
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Nor is it the initially well-meaning, but now ill-advisedly slick publicity campaign being masterminded by failed Liberal Democrat parliamentary candidate and party activist Justine McGuinness - a freelance PR who recently had to be dissuaded from arranging a photocall for Kate McCann at a Portuguese orphanage.

No, something far more disconcerting has kept me rapt with the Madeleine story.

From the earliest days, a disturbing thought has nagged away at the back of my mind. Suppose her parents were somehow culpable?

Until yesterday, this was such a terrible notion as to be almost unspeakable, even within the confines of my own four walls, where my wife steadfastly refuses to countenance the possibility the McCanns could be anything other than the blameless, heartbroken parents they present themselves to be.

Malicious gossips apart, everyone appears to agree with my wife. Even to raise the possibility that there might just be more to the McCanns is to risk being pilloried. It places one in the camp of internet ghouls, xenophobic, badly-informed Portuguese newspapers and mendacious detectives.

In the final analysis, of course, my sneaking fear that they might be involved in her disappearance could turn out to be completely unfounded. It might well be proved that Madeleine was snatched from her bed - by some despicable paedophile or a desperate childless couple - as everyone surmised from the outset.

Alternatively, though even less likely, she might have woken up alone and, bewildered that her parents weren't there in the strange apartment, panicked and wandered off to search for them.

Stretching one's imagination, she might conceivably have fallen into the nearby roadwork trenches - filled a few days later - or even wandered more than half a mile through the darkness, into the sea.

However, yesterday's bombshell news that Kate McCann has formally been made an "arguida" - a formal suspect - means we can no longer take their innocence as an absolute, cast-iron certainty, how ever unpalatable that might be.

Last night, Gerry was still being questioned by the Portuguese police, and might also be named as a suspect.

My own gnawing doubts about the conventional theories began on my first visit to Portugal. I am a reporter, not a detective, but some things just didn't seem right.

First, there was the resort itself. Expecting to find a bustling town where it would be easy for a childsnatcher to mingle with the crowd while watching his target, and make off without arousing suspicion, I found instead an almost deserted, out-of-season place. A risky setting for a kidnap, however well-planned.

Then there was the McCanns' apartment. Although it stood at least 75 yards from the tapas bar where the family's party dined, and was completely obscured by a high wall topped with bougainvillea, its location would have presented considerable problems to a would-be abductor.

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Family photo: The couple released a photo of Madeleine snapped by the pool on the day she went missing

The sliding window at the rear faces an alley used as a main thoroughfare for those staying in the apartment blocks, while the front door and windows open on to a frequently used car-park, beyond which runs a well-lit main road.

How on Earth, I have often wondered, did someone walk in, gather Madeleine up in his arms and make off with her without being seen, or waking her twin brother and sister sleeping either side of her? And surely the little girl must have stirred. The neighbouring apartments were occupied. Why was nothing heard or seen?

All this is a matter of speculation, of course, as are the other anomalies too numerous to mention which make me sceptical that this was the work of a predatory paedophile - the most commonly-held theory.

However, in the early days of the investigation, I interviewed Robert Murat, the 33-year-old Portuguese-born Englishman who was, until yesterday, the only suspect. I remain one of only a handful of journalists to have spoken to him at length.

The police took an interest in Murat, you'll recall, only after a reporter felt there was something suspicious about him and told them of her concern.



Murat: Quickly offered help as an interpreter

With his glass eye, vaguely uneasy manner and injudicious outbursts of self pity (he has compared his own suffering to that of the McCanns) it is easy to see why this self-employed "property developer" has been singled out.

The more so because his mother's house stands 75 yards from the apartment, and, with echoes of Soham murderer Ian Huntley, Murat was on the scene very quickly to offer help as a police interpreter.

One cannot gauge a man's guilt or innocence during a two-hour conversation, as I readily accept.

I believe it is sufficient to form an impression of his character, however, and during my afternoon alone with the chain-smoking Robert Murat, nothing led me to believe that he might be capable of kidnapping a child.

On the contrary, I came away convinced that he will eventually be proved a seriously-maligned scapegoat, as he has always protested.

Whatever the eventual outcome, the Portuguese police were foolhardy in the extreme to focus their attention so narrowly on one man.

And, whether we like it or not, the possible involvement of Kate and Gerry McCann should have been rigorously investigated at the very beginning of the inquiry - as it would have been in Britain, where routine procedure dictates that those closest to the victim are scrutinised and eliminated first.

Now, very belatedly, the spotlight has been turned on them.

If we believe sources quoted in the Portuguese press, the reasons for this sudden change of tack - just as the McCanns were preparing to return to Leicestershire - are disturbingly plausible.

Apparently, detectives started to consider the possibility that Madeleine might have been killed by her parents - albeit inadvertently - after comparing the case with that of a missing Portuguese eight-year-old girl named Joana Cipriano, whose mother was convicted of her murder.

For the watching world, of course, the prospect that there are similarities between the fate of Madeleine and Joana will beggar belief.

Clutching Madeleine's beloved toy Cuddle Cat to her bosom wherever she goes, and so visibly laden down by grief that her fragile body seems ready to buckle under the strain, Kate McCann has become a haunting symbol for despairing mothers everywhere.

Her husband, by contrast, strides purposefully between meetings with senior politicians and religious leaders. Zealously banging the drum for missing children, his pugilistic Glaswegian chin juts defiantly towards anyone who dares to question him, or his motives.

And then there is the relentless publicity blitz.

Originally devised and orchestrated by relatives and friends, with the simple aim of keeping Madeleine's impossibly-cute face uppermost in people's thoughts, it has - to the distaste of many - taken on a life of its own, becoming the focus of an ill-defined global mission.

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Fronting the campaign: Kate McCann - and with her husband Gerry (below) did all they could to keep Madeleine's face in people's thoughts

At times, it seems that the goal of finding Madeleine safe and well is being lost amid the PR hoopla.

But whatever we might think of the Find Madeleine campaign, surely all this can't be a fake? Surely a couple who have placed themselves under the microscope - and in so doing turned their daughter's disappearance into the most high-profile child abduction case in history - won't emerge as callous frauds?

In the coming hours, after Gerry McCann has completed the same, grim grilling to which Kate was earlier subjected in the Portimao police station, we might be a little nearer to knowing the answer.

For all my scepticism, I pray that the Portuguese police are - once again - careering down the wrong track.

Because if, by some dark twist, it transpires that Kate and Gerry McCann have really known all along what happened to Madeleine - that they were responsible and staged the most elaborate imaginable cover-up - the consequences would be harmful almost beyond measure.

Such an incredible outcome would forever destroy the inherent faith we place in outwardly decent, caring parents such as the McCanns, and with it our very trust in the goodness of human nature.

It would make cynics of us all - and that would be as sad, in its way, as losing little Madeleine

nancy said...

Dylan -

You are very perceptive - those sentences completely contradict each other!

Isis -

Thanks for the article from 3A's by the reporter. I wonder if his wife has come round to his way of thinking yet? A brilliant bit of reporting and confirms that it's not just 'us' who think that there has been something really bizarre going on in this case from the outset! How on earth our media can't see it too mystifies me!!

nancy said...

Latest story from McCann files - Kate and Gerry ripped the covers from Madeleine's bedtime books only hours after she went missing to write their movements for the PJ which are attached to their pages of evidence!!

Another story showing just how cold hearted these two really are!!

viv said...

Hiya and thanks for a great article. It is very interesting the way he draws such a stark contrast between Kate and Gerry, he was out there and apparently saw a woman disturbed by grief, but Gerry buzzing between important and helpful people and arrogantly fronting anyone who challenges him.

Whilst I am struggling to think where I can see this grief on Kate McCann in all the pictures I have seen, including the bizarre acting outside the church where she screws her face up and says please pray for her, she's lovely, I respect his opinion because it is so well put, but in the case of Gerry I more than respect it, I entirely agree. He is such an abrasive character!

Viv x

Stonemaid said...

Hello Isis

Your article "I have a terrible nagging doubt the McCanns might be involved' By DAVID JONES Last updated at 00:36 08 September 2007"

was an interesting read. The only thing that depresses me more and more is that people are having to go back a year for information. I just wish to goodness we could be hearing and seeing more about these 24 photographs, for instance. I for one am crying out for "new" news!!!

I know I am getting sick of it all and wonder if it is all about to send me totally round the twist!!

I am fearful that the Teflon Twosome have simply got too powerful a team behind them to ever face justice for Madeleine.

Of course I would love to be wrong!!

Stonemaid

viv said...

I said, ‘Kate, there's no point in staying if it's counter-productive.'


He does have this unfortunate habit, which must make his lawyers positively cringe, of saying things just like they are. We are not struggling to think who it was counter-productive for, as we know it became far more difficult for the PJ to investigate them, after they left.

Nothing this couple ever do was going to be productive for little Madeleine, was it? It was not then and it is not now, it is all just a huge waste of cash, whilst millions of other little children just disappear and go hungry, they keep up this cash rich scam but really do not even fool themselves any longer.

viv said...

Hiya Stonemaid

Do you not find it helpful to compare what he was saying then, with what he is saying now?

For example, he was admitting then the Portuguese Police had enough evidence to charge them, now he says there is no evidence whatsoever, either against them or that Madeleine has come to any harm. Quite extraordinary in the circumstances and clearly demonstrating his defensive thinking processes. I think it is news that he is so desperate to convince he is innocent whilst at the same time trying to suggest that is what the investigation found. This man with this overwhelming self belief is just a sham, isn't he, he does not believe in himself at all.


He knows that sooner or later the game will be up!

Viv x

viv said...

Why does he still "need" Clarence Mitchell if it is all over and they can just search for Madeleine? In what way could Mitchell aid the search for Madeleine, he is a press spinner, there is no way he is going to spin Madeleine back into existence, is there?

Viv x

dylan said...

Hi Di,Viv, Isis and Stonemaid,

Ecolab, I have been reading some of your comments on 3As, they are all very appreaciative of your post and rightly so, well done!

Isis, thanks for the article. It's a little strange in the end & I don't quite follow his thoughts or identify where, exactly he puts across his nagging doubts but it's a good read, all the same.

Viv, everything they do IS counterproductive isn't it? Like hiring fraud specialists to find Maddie, fleeing Portugal just as they are made arguidos, not answering questions, refusing to attend the reconstruction, not calling the police immediately when she disappeared, not physically searching.....and the list goes on, endlessly!

Di and stonemaid, I'm sick of it too but we must keep the faith. I'm hoping that Viv is right. We haven't heard much from the McCann front recently, it's been strangely quiet. I am sure that we will have more spin, though, as soon as anything bad is about to hit the headlines again! I just caught the front page headlines of the People yesterday. It was a nasty, spiteful headline directed at GA, yet again!

xx

isis said...

Viv and all, yes , I thought it was an interesting article in hindsight. As for the photographs , I dont think they were in the dvd made available to journalists. I wonder if these pics were the reason the mccanns were trawling those files.

Joe said...

Pinky is there still because IMO, the puppet masters dictate and the shelving of the case has led to even more questions and it gives the McCanns an excuse to hide behind the pinkiness and not speak. I suppose that is one consolation.

viv said...

Hiya Isis and good to hear from you again,

Well when you have a very guilty conscience you are always going to be fearful of exactly who knows what - they know they have made a lot of mistakes and their desperation to get their hands on police files was ill concealed - even going to the High Court but then being forcedd to accept Leics Police are still investigating them as their barrister made very plain and just having to back down.

I am sure they are very quiet because they are trawling those files and just trying to assess how bad the damage is and how they can lie and manipulate their way out. What will really concern them though, is what is not in the files - it must be pure agony just wondering what SOCA, LP etc continue to investigate - those pictures, if they exist are going to get them one day, they will know that for sure. They are not buying or manipulating their way out of trouble, they are just prolonging the agony and giving a judge a whole lot more to get really miffed about. Some people do this when they are in big trouble, they really do just keep digging that hole..with muddy slippy sides and quicksand at the bottom.

Viv x

viv said...

Which just reminds me those trousers of Kate's with the death scent on baggy black and white check trousers, they are the ones she is wearing in a pic on this blog where she genuinely looks completely mad!

viv said...

found the pic, at the top of this thread.

viv said...

Hiya Joe

Being anywhere near Pinkiness would not console me, I would rather scrape my finger nails down a blackboard, than have any contact with that man.

Just imagine getting twice weekly visits or whatever from him, what a happy life Kate has now with that to look forward to, Karma x

dylan said...

Viv,

That pic, she looks very afraid IMO.

Have to go for a while now. Since it's a miserable rainy day, planning to watch a DVD with my youngest and then have a messy painting session with her!

Take care

xx

Joe said...

Hi viv,

I agree 100% with you Pinky visits aaargh!

The consolation is that we are spared K&G nasal and weedy tones respectively.

viv said...

Hiya Dillie

Well it is a bit of a laugh I think Kate and Gerry McCann hiring fraud specialists, are they specialists because they too are so good at it. I suppose if you are dealing in cocaine you have to know how to launder a lot of cash, very useful information, you scratch mine and I will show you how its done. In the meantime I will study paedophilia on the internet and yes Mr McCann I am the one and only agency that agrees completely with you Madeleine was snatched by a network of wicked paedophiles, er how do you spell that so I can google it. er how much did you say I would get a money I mean a month, of fab, right flash new offices here we go!"

viv said...

Hiya Dillie

I thought earlier I would defy the weather and have a walk around my garden but bless me five minutes later my hair was all wet!

Finger painting you sound like a yummy mummy, I know they love that and hand and foot printing and cutting up potatoes and printing and cooking. Just fun things with a loving mum, fortunately it comes natural to most xxxx

Di said...

Good afternoon Viv and all

Ecolab, great post last night. I had forgotten just how many ludicrous comments come from their mouths, unbelievable!

Isis,Viv I have not seen David Jones report before, a very interesting read. What a pity there are not more reporters like him. I would love to know his thoughts now.

isis said...

Thanks viv, i feel that if these pictures do come to light, which i am sure they will as everything has a price, they will be very telling if in fact the pictures can throw doubt on all the times given by the mccanns and tapas group. Espescially if as claimed they show kate and another tapas member having changed clothes. As a point of interest , mitchell hasnt denied that this happened he has simply said , its no big deal if she did.

viv said...

Hiya Isis

I am very interested you point out Mitchell is not denying it, that proves they exist and are going to come out.

In the ordinary course of events it just sounds like a bit of hanky panky, but I imagine that might be a big deal to Gerry.

People seem to have stopped talking about O'Brien but his involvement is pretty obvious. I think the PJ quickly realised it was a mistake to lay their cards on the table with the ultra devious McCanns because that meant they had to make them arguidos and the found out a lot of the evidence they had at that time. It also gave them the opportunity to remain silent in the face of those questions. It probably was a little naive to think such a couple would just make admissions about what they did! Likewise OB but I am sure that is why it was decided no others would be made arguidos, do it the UK way, keep them in the dark until it is too late:-))

Di said...

Viv

We are now at our holiday home in Wales and the weather is worse than in Cheshire, but the sea view makes up for everything.

nancy said...

Hi Viv -

Kate certainly looks haunted in that photo and I think you are right about those trousers being the ones with the scent of death on them. I wonder how long that photo was taken after Madeleine went missing.

I think the tapas pals would have said something long ago about this whole sorry mess if they were all completely innocent about what went on instead of hiding from the press. The fact they all keep mum indicates to me they, or some of them, are hiding a terrible secret!!

15 months on we are still waiting for one of them to make a wrong move and blow the whole thing sky high!!

Justice for Madeliene!

Zodiac said...

Hi all,

'Hours after Madeleine disappeared, the English girl's parents tore the covers of two children's books that the child enjoyed leafing through before going to sleep, to write down the details of the evening of the disappearance.'

They are on holiday with 3 children and have no paper, pads etc for the kids to doodle, draw on!

Dylan,

'ICTOAN, don't worry. I had such a good afternoon and loved your particular shirt colour of "hint of sock" so much, I don't think Docmac could woo me away from you if he came over here with a thousand brown envelopes and some reasonably decent, expensive tennis shorts!! (all kept in a blue holdall don't ya know!)'

Have you forgot about Docmac's Wonder Mop. According to Viv and Claudia it can reach places no other mop can!

isis said...

Yes viv, the following is an excerpt from the people article of yesterday, strange that he didnt do the usual denial spin and dismiss this as hurtful, unhelpful and ludicrous.............Mr Mitchell last night said he did not know if Kate changed her clothes and added: "If she did, so what?" He said: "It is no big deal that Mr Kennedy met the police.

Di said...

This is an interesting possibility raised on 3A's

vancouver1 wrote:
Do you all remember the initial Sol timeline where we were told that Dianne Webster came back to the table to collect her camera and her purse?

I kept wondering why this was important, and now I wonder... we were never told whether she DID collect her camera and purse - only that she came back to the table to collect these two items.

Is it possible that while she was absent from the table, her camera and / or purse were stolen by someone?

And that on the camera were pictures of the Tapas crew?

Is it possible that this detail was not made public?

Is it possible the camera and pictures which have now surfaced are Dianne Webster's, and the McCanns were desperate to find out what happened to them? Is it possible they wished to destroy that information but were denied the opportunity because the camera went missing?

Just a thought...

isis said...

Hi Di, i wondered that myself, although Mr Reis does say that the photographs were taken by a man who was with his wife and another couple and the mccanns table was in the background of the pics. I also wonder why they were not uploaded to CEOP as the mccanns requested all holiday pictures taken in luz to be uploaded. I can only think these are pictures that the pj had prior to this request by the mccanns, and which imo the still retain as evidence to be used if the case is reopened at some stage,then again i have never believed that the case has been shelved completely

Cláudia said...

Let us not forget that apparently the person who has the pictures has one request before he sells them: that they are also sent to the police. That leads me to believe the police does not have them. If they did, the 'reopen the case' argument would not make sense.

Di said...

Hi Isis/Claudia

These photos must be very incriminating, firstly for the owner to keep them a secret until now knowing he could make a fortune, and secondly because the McCann's lawyers are desperate to get their hands on them.

isis said...

Hi Claudia, either way, i think the mccanns want to get their hands on those pictures . They were not in the files and mabey the mccanns expected them to be. If it is a prequisite that the buyer also sends them to the police before they are published then it is safe to assume that the team of lawyers who allegedly approached the seller and tried to buy them are not the lawyers acting for the mccanns..or is it?

isis said...

Hi Di, you do have to wonder if the photos are that incriminating, why would the owner wait until the couples arguido status had been lifted. Very strange.

Zodiac said...

'the mccanns requested all holiday pictures taken in luz to be uploaded.'

Was this request made due to them possibly being aware there were photographs out there such as the 24 which could be incriminating! Seems a bit like the case will be shelved and we will have all the evidence and will only allow our drivel to be printed in our Press/Media. Bet they were surprised the tourist did not just send the 24 pics in a brown envelope to Lord and Lady Mucca of Rothley Manor with a note saying 'please let me kiss your @rs*s you important peeps'.

Di said...

Hi Isis

If it is true the lawyers offered £500,000 for the photos, surely they must have a very good idea of what they contain.

Cláudia said...

Isis, apparently that is why the photos weren't sold. The buyers, whoever they were, weren't alledgely interested in sending them to the police. But I think we'll have to wait to see if the photos even exist. I believe they may exist, because of a small detail but we'll have to wait.

Cláudia said...

"Bet they were surprised the tourist did not just send the 24 pics in a brown envelope to Lord and Lady Mucca of Rothley Manor with a note saying 'please let me kiss your @rs*s you important peeps'."

Zodiac, LOL

isis said...

Claudia, Di, like all in this case many more twists and turns to come, bye for now.

nancy said...

Claudia -

Loved that!!! Lord and Lady Mucca!!!

nancy said...

Zodiac -

You have a great way with words!!!

I don't think the McCanns are going to know what hits them when just one small cog comes away from the wheel!!

nancy said...

Isis -

Maybe the owner of these photos (if they exist) wanted to wait until everything had presumably died down and the McCanns thought they were out of danger before letting the world see them and therefore cause a greater impact!
Also he or she is probably waiting for the highest bidder!!

The fact that nobody in the media has yet come forward just goes to prove how they are trying to protect the McCanns. I don't see how they can be worried about being sued merely by printing holiday pictures though!

I should have thought that if the McCann's solicitors had asked to buy them but refused to hand them to the police, it's because they were worried they would be incriminating to their clients.

It's so difficult to detect spin from fact!

nancy said...

Di -

Have a lovely holiday - don't worry about the weather - a change is as good as a rest they say and I know they have some beautiful scenery in Wales. My brother used to live not far from that very long unpronouncable town!!!

Nx

Stonemaid said...

Interesting reading this afternoon everyone...thank you!!

The thing which intrigued me was that the person with the 24 pictures apparently 'lost' his camera - but recovered it a long long time afterwards.

I've lost some cameras in my time, but they have never been returned to me later, much less much later!

There's something fishy with these photos too...that's why I wish they would surface...the suspense is killing me!!! I think Claudia is right, the police don't have them.........unless they form part of the files which have not been made public at this time?

Stonemaid

Stonemaid said...

I've just taken another look at the picture of Kate in the black and white trousers...the thing which strikes me is her hair. I don't think I have seen her photographed before without her hair having been brushed. It suggests total panic and everything else is out the window. One of the things which put me off them, within days of Madeleine's disappearance, was the way she went out with that infernal pony tail bobbing along with such a 'I don't have a care in the world' bounce to it.

I have a bit of a phobia about pony tails tbh...they remind me of my wicked-step-mother!! They do exist outside of fairytales!!

Stonemaid

Joe said...
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Joe said...

Stonemaid,

There is indeed something odd about the photos, the camera was stolen, then turns up much later intact. Highly improbable IMO, sounds like a ready made excuse or BS to justify or explain why such photos were not handed to the PJ originally?

If they really do exist, and there is a bidding war for them, then its more than likely that they will be bought for the duo by sugar daddy Kennedy and never see the light of day. The PJ should be demanding them or at least investigating if they exist.

nancy said...

Joe -

I don't think the owner of the photos would sell them to Kennedy because he would know they would never reach the police. I think the whole thing reeks of pie in the sky or this would all have come to light much much earlier, although I hope I am proved wrong and there is some significance in it.

nancy said...

Stonemaid -

Also notice the word Passion across Kate's T shirt - I'm not a prude but I hardly think it's something I would wear if I thought my daughter had been stolen by a paedophile! I wonder who that is walking behind them - possibly Mr Pink!

dylan said...

Hi all,

Just popped in to show you something I found earlier on ST's.
Be warned, it's extremely unpleasant and written by someone who is an utterly nasty piece of work. I would like to say to this person/thing from the underworld: Nobody will believe you as you give no proof of your 'evidence' for this. Just like the supposed abductor left no evidence in apt 5a. Secondly, I don't care what anybody calls me. They don't know me personally and anyway, Dildo - lololol! Where are my batteries when I need them!

If you think you've put a cat amongst the pigeons then you are wrong. Docmac and Claudia can say what they like to each other. It won't stop people posting here and we're all grown-ups, we can take it!


truth restored said...
Just read the 'dark side' and have been quite unable to contain my amusement. Laugh? I have been unable to stop. One could hardly make that drivel up. Do they realise I wonder, how they come across to normal people?
Bitter, twisted and deluded yes undeniably, but oh so funny too. Funnier also because I swear they believe what they write, they really do. Incredulous, I realise. Especially the five who are being played. Do you know what Docmac calls you behind your backs? Docmac and Claud have these little late night chats. (Vile not included) They laugh in secret at her and use her like they use others. The chats where he hides from his wife to send Claudia text messages from under the duvet etc Dildo Dyl, Hapless Hope, Nebulous Nancy, Indistinct Isis and Dubious Di. Silly names but then Docmac does like to make silly names up for people.(Claudia really should learn to keep her mouth shut and her fingers still!)

Docmac "Beware the Ides of March"
know when the next one is? Not that long to wait!


Clueless and going nowhere in their entirety. They are going absolutely nowhere. (I hope they haven't paid too much for their fares) lol

Especially For Docmac

Docmac's a real Nowhere Man,
Sitting in his nowhere land,
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

He has too many points of view,
He knows not where he's going to,
Isn't he a bit like Claud and Vile?

He's as blind as he can be,
Just sees what he wants to see,
Nowhere Man can you see me (the mole) at all?

He has too many points of view,
he knows not where he's going to, (prison)
Isn't he a bit like Claud and Vile?

Nowhere Man, don't worry,
Take your time, don't hurry,
Leave it all to 'somebody else',
Your fate is known, your cover blown.
The "Ides" is almost upon you!



There is a clue in this post. I wonder if he/they are clever enough to pick it up? (Don't go holding your breath too long though)
Ask Docmac about the contents of his book and how many times he likes to visit the "library".

Truth Restored



Oh TR! what a little treasure you are :-)

xx

ICantThinkOfAName said...

To those who have enquired about LittleGreyCell, she has posted on 3A today.

dylan said...

Cheers, ICTOAN.

What a relief. Did she sound like her usual self?

hope4truth said...

Dyl

LOL well that is really funny no one can get hold of the phone records of the McCann's and pals (although if my child were missing I would want to know exactly what every person was up to) but this idiot wants us to belive they have intercepted Doc and Claudia's text messages!!!!!!!!!

Do some people only ever chat on line? Dont get me wrong guys I like most of you that post here and from what you post you seem friendly enough to me but out in the real world we all have friends and family who's opinon of us really means something.

Hapless Hope, Horrid Hope, Hideous Hope, Heafty Hope Hopeless Hope LOL do they really believe I give a toss what anyone on line calls me...

Then they stir that Doc and Claudia are slagging us while we sleep oh dear that is really funny...

xxx

docmac said...

Dyl

Distraction, misdirection, intimidation, threats, insinuation, innuendo, lies. Tools used in desperation and an attempt to divide and conquer. Poor attempt IMO.

Hey "mole", that's your third name change in 24 hours. How many voices are there in that head? BTW, do I know when the next Ide of March is? Is this a thick question or are you just trick? And yes, I did mean to spell it that way.

dylan said...

Hope, loool!
Glad you took it like the good sport that you are. I don't think their little gameplan has worked somehow ;-)

You have mail.

Got to go for a bit now & I'll catch you later.

xx

hope4truth said...

OMG Doc do you work in a libaray and have you written a book...

Sodding hell are you Amaral???

LOL

With kind regards Hapless Hopeless Horrid Huge Heartless Heafty Hope xxx

dylan said...

Hope,

He must be! Clever man that Amaral ;-)

Docmac - "Viles Mole", is this a new species of mole do you think? Someone was a little hasty and forgot an apostrophe. Shocking considering it's the poor creature's name too!!

Dildos sheep (must inform zoologists of this one too) :-)))

xx

hope4truth said...

Dyl

I think he is a very clever and brave man...

Shame we dont have anyone brave enough to speak on behalf of a 3 year old neglected child...

Was watching the news today and they have jailed Philip Anthony Thompson who ran a vile and depraved internet site for peadophiles. The investigaing officer sounded choked up when he was talking about the discusting and depraved things that were being done to children and I hope they keep this scum in prison for a very long time.

Yet the McCann's tell us there is no reason to think Madeleine has been harmed and then tell us she is in the hands of sick scum like Thompson.

You couldnet make it up could you what a sick sad world we live in...

Cláudia said...

I'm glad you guys are there. I've been translating till I drop and when I come here for a quick read you all always make me PMSL! :-) Great sense of humour. Even the mole! LOLOL

dylan said...

Hope,

'Yet the McCann's tell us there is no reason to think Madeleine has been harmed and then tell us she is in the hands of sick scum like Thompson.'

Spot on!

Claudia, well we are here for your entertainment after all! Can't have you go without any food for your nocturnal texting can we??!!

Love, the rabbit ;-))) xx

PS if you've not heard of one, I'm not sure I can explain it on here!

hope4truth said...

Claudia

Please would somebody tell me who the mole in the hole is???

There are far to many unanswered questions without this one!!!!

How are your translations going??

xxx

isis said...

Evening all, i see i have made the trolls hall of fame... o dear!! Must be off now to practise my ennunciation. Indistinct isis.

hope4truth said...

Dyl

Are people trying to drive me mad what Rabbit????

xxx

Cláudia said...

Dylan, I don't know what kind of sad lives people have to consider texting something worth of mentioning! LOLOL Guess it beats the kitting on the other side, though! :-)

dylan said...

ISIS, consider it a priviledge!

Hope, I'll email you the Rabbit thing now...!

xx

Cláudia said...

Hope, do you really think that is important? :-)))) Funny, yes. But not important at all. But Madeleine is. Everything else is noise.

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Dylan

LGC did attempt a serious posting but soon showed her humorous side in an exchange with me.

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