18 May 2008

60 WITNESSES NEVER SAW MADDIE AFTER 6 PM

THE BODY LANGUAGE AND THE FACES OF THE WOMEN
STANDING BEHIND SAY IT ALL KATE, YOU ARE UNREAL..
NO SHAME, NO DECENCY, JUST PUT ON A SHOW, MAKE
SOME CASH, CONVINCE YOURSELF IF NO ONE ELSE.. DID YOU REALLY THINK STANDING THERE
LIKE THAT JUST DAYS AFTER LOSING MADELEINE WAS
WORTH IT?






HI all I was very interested to read this report posted by Dolores on the blog today from 24 Horas. It tells us that in the rogatory letters UK police were asked to re-interview a vast number of British tourists with their statements being forwarded on to Paulo Rebelo as each became available. It is clearly established from 50 tourists who were in the area at the time that Madeleine was not seen by anyone after 6 pm on 3 May. From this it is concluded that contrary to what Kate and Gerry McCann have always sought to insist, it simply cannot be said that she disappeared at 9.15. There is simply no evidence whatsoever, to support that view. This clearly intimates once more that Jane Tanner and Co are a bunch of fantacists in their claims. The PJ have clearly sought to be stringently clear about this. They not only interviewed all these people at the time, they have now got Leicester Police to do so again. This also serves the purpose of preventing either the McCanns or their supporters from seeking to suggest the PJ themselves are lieing or seeking to set them up. There are still certain statements missing that the PJ require, hence the ongoing secrecy required, in addition of course to the wish to hold a reconstruction now they are in possession of all of this verified information. When you think about it carefully, there are over 50 witnesses, just in the UK that are going to contradict what the TAPAS 9 say..that is very bad news indeed for them and just shows what a hair-brained scheme it was from the very outset. Jemmied, not jemmied and a reliance, solely on Jane Tanner, versus hordes of other witnesses. What were the prospects of actually convincing the police they speak the truth. Jane Tanner could not even be clear about whether she was coming or going, understandable really!

I was interested to see the time that Kate starts screaming they have taken her has now changed to 10.30..this is very different to what we have always been told. Maybe it is because none of them had their watches on:-))) Kate has never been able to explain exactly who "they" were...would she want to explain she meant Gerry and O'Brien? Guess not!

The friends do not want to go back and help the police..now could this be to help Kate and Gerry because that would prevent the reconstruction taking place, or could it be it is because they also fear being arrested? Bit of both I suspect..The report concludes that all will be revealed in time..I just have the feeling there will be no further extensions beyond August.

Viv x


Timeline of the McCanns put in question 24horasWitnesses say that they didn't see Maddie after the end of the afternoonText Carlos Tomás 17/5/08Little Madeleine McCann was not seen from 18.00 on the 3rd of May 2007, meaning almost four hours before the mother, Kate, gave the alarm in Praia da Luz, Algarve. That is the conclusion drawn from the correlation of information given to the British police by more than 60 tourists that were at the Ocean Club on the day of the disappearance. The authorities of Leicester have been sending this information drop by drop to the team of Paulo Rebelo. "None of the more than fifty persons that were in the tourist resort saw the child from 18.00 hours onwards. The several interrogatories made at the time of the disappearance and more recently in England prove that the girl was no longer seen in the end of the afternoon", said a judicial responsible connected to the investigations to 24horas.This data led the judicial responsible to assume that "contrary to what the parents always claimed the hour that the disappearance occurred is yet to be defined and it might not be after 22.00 hours but much earlier".There are still depositions missingThe team of the PJ are not yet in possession of all the depositions that were requested to the British authorities, made in the rogatory letter sent to that country at the end of 2007. The principal depositions of the McCanns' friends have already been evaluated scrupulously.FACTSAlarm Kate McCann entered the Tapas Bar after 22.30 screaming "they've taken her". She was never able to explain to the authorities who "they" were. The GNR arrived at the location in less than 20 minutes and the PJ one hour after. In the apartment were the twins and there was not found any sign of a break in.ImpositionsThe 7 friends that dinned with the McCanns in the Tapas Bar are putting conditions to the Public Prosecutor to return to our country. They are invited to cooperate in the reconstruction of that night, a proceeding considered very important to clarify the facts.Reconstruction without dateThe PJ continues to wait for a reply from the McCanns and their friends to schedule a date to the reconstruction of the facts that occurred on the 3rd of May 2007: "We have not received any indication from the Public Prosecutor about this issue. We are still waiting that the McCanns and their friends to decide when they want to come to Portugal. We cannot oblige them, they come if they wish", said the same source.Guilhermino Encarnação, responsible for the Department of Faro, maintains that "in this phase there is nothing to say" and as soon as relevant data of public interest connected to this media case occurs "it will be revealed by the competent authorities".The McCanns say, through their spokesman, Clarence Mitchell that they are willing to return to our country but they do not take responsibility for the decision of the friends with whom they dinned.

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atardi said...

Ecolab,

I may have a severe personal disorder , but today we had another "beauty day" for elderly people. And you know what really touched me? There was a woman who wanted to pay for the treatment. (but we do it for free). But she insisted to pay. After the head master (forgive my bad English) she was allowed to give 2 euro's. And a man who never left his room wanted a manicure treatment. And stayed the whole day in the aula. This never happened before.

So I prefer to have this personal disorder than protecting child neglecters.

ta ra said...

Atardi,

Ace copy. Thank you. That is why 3arguidos, mccannfiles and those non-journalists like Viv use the new medium of blogs to provoke thought, invite intelligent democratic people to use their right to free speech, and defy Stalinist tactics; defy media manipulators.

This is our world. We will make it what it is. Media manipulators and their clients will lose if they lie.

The public despise liars.Twas ever thus.
Goedonavond Atardi.

Justice for Madeleine. The Mcann machine of media manipulators as I've called it since last Autumn are broken, and screech more loudly as every month goes by.

Ace copy, Atard. Not too long. Only rather late for some. Not you. Not me. Not many others.

Eye wide open.

Unknown said...

Hiya Atardi

No problem with the long post, I think it is good that you remind them, we know what they are. People who lack morals and whose only interest is money, just like Kate and Gerry who spawned the sick trolls. For Supertroll/Assassin, perhaps it is a nice top up to her state benefits, but if she does have five children when does she ever spend time looking after them? They are certainly all from the same mould! Personally though I think Supertroll et al does need an emergency section. I also agree with others that Rosiepops may well be another of her personas, they both have dreams and visions..a sure sign of pschosis! Reading that site is like listening to a conversation on a mental health ward.

The McCanns and friends do not have many days left to ponder their decision, if they refuse they know this will not go well for them, but likewise if they comply. It is good that rats get trapped into a corner with nowhere else to run. The British Police are close to hand:-)

Viv x

Leigh Good to see you again darling x

hope4truth said...

Atardi

I had not read that before. I dont think all of them can be paid to post as much as I am against neglect some pros must equally belive that it is the PJs fault. (Why I dont know?)

Maybe some people need the cash so badly they will post anything to get paid.

It is all so very sad poor Madeleine but there are 1000s of missing children very very depressig...

hope4truth said...

Good Evening Viv

Hope you had a good day???

Where has the summer gone not fair at all xxx

atardi said...

Hi Leigh,

You will have to explain what tsk means. Or is it just like phhhhh?

Had a good day with my pupils organizing a "beauty day" for the eldery people. I (and my pupils) enjoyed it and the eldery people also.

Maybe you'll think "why is Atardi" posting about elderly people while we are seeking JFM. To me it's the same. When we get older we are used to grab at momemts when we were younger.

I was so glad to be a part of this beauty day today.

Zodiac, all my pupil's had the right/clean clothes on.

hope4truth said...

Goodnight all

I am off to bed have a good evening all will see you tomorrow xxx

atardi said...

See you tomorrow Hope,


Looking forward to read you tomorrow.
They played 2-2 last saturday. It was so cold and windy I just wanted to go home but stayed.

hope4truth said...

Atardi

I have e mailed you...

I hope she was happy with a draw good for you sticking it out in the cold hope you had a warm coat on...

xxx

hope4truth said...

Atardi

I have e mailed you...

I hope she was happy with a draw good for you sticking it out in the cold hope you had a warm coat on...

xxx

Gina said...
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ellie said...

Hello to everyone this will be my
first time posting so be patient with me i am still learning, it has
been excellant reading all the comments, and the fact that you all
feel so passionately about getting
justice for sweet and innocent little Madeline and i would love to be a part of this and maybe post
some comments myself


many thanks to everyone

ta ra said...

Gina.

Nice try. Not best wishes to you all.

Gina said...
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ta ra said...

Ellie,
All you need is honesty.

'Play' the 'game' of the McCann machine of media manipulators, and they will lose. Madeleine, Sean and Amelie will lose.

Be honest, Ellie, and all your words will be worthwhile, and very much appreciated by many thoughtful people.


Just a thought. Just my gut reaction when I return to switch off one computer; one online.

Ta ra.

Gina said...
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ta ra said...

Ellie,
This is the world weird web. I for one am suspicious of some because of the McCanns' cynical manipulation of forums, and websites.

I wait to see a person's commitment to child welfare; a clear declaration that the McCanns are wrong to leave infants alone night after night (should be charged for that if nothing else), and a clear declaration that the ongoing inquiry by the police and child protection agencies is right.

This is not a 'chat room' for indifferent bystanders, Gina.

Sorry, Viv, but I am suspicious of certain words. Of course, it is your right to delete this.

Anonymous said...

Good evening everyone

Viv, thank you for providing a place where free speech, individual perceptions and dignified discussion can take place.

I wish you all well

ta ra said...

Gina,
You prove my point. You are using the emotional card.

The unique 'victim' status of the McCanns, manipulating genteel public feeling, and pursuing a very cynical agenda.

Didn't work this time,did it?

You people. You paid 'hired hands', seducing the kind public.

Oh, well. You were more sophisticated than the other monkeys. Due credit to you, 'Gina'.

Gina said...

Sorry Leigh I did not know you had taken over the blog and I was not allowed to respond to an earlier post from Di asking if I was having a good time in the states. There was no need for your comments "nice try" inferring I was not telling the truth, nor me sending best wishes to all. Just because I will not say the McCanns killed their daughter, that does not make me indifferent and if I want to be insulted I might as well post on trolls sight, I did not expect it on here.

ta ra said...

Southerncross.

You arrive at exactly the moment when your words are most needed, I think.

Most needed for honest inquiry.

ta ra said...

Tsk, Gina.

Under pressure, you use more McCann Machine verbal tactics. Your last comment is filled with 'poor me' words often seen on the DE by manipulators, trying to build 'relationships' with critics of the McCanns, and assuage negative comment.

If you are on holiday with your dear son, then why do you find time to appear here?

Tsk.Nonsense.

Gina said...

Viv/Claudia,

I posted on here earlier saying it was difficult from america and I would catch up when I can. From that Leigh has accused me of being a paid Monkey. How the hell she has come up with that notion I have no idea, As Claudia knows more than anyone I have no time for the McCanns at all. I don't need this, and I am no monkey, they work for peanuts, I don't. Best wishes to you both

ta ra said...

And Gina,

Your tactic are reprehensible to honest folk because I, like many, do not say the McCanns killed their daughter. People like you like to suggest that we do when we don't.

Goodnight. Madeleine and other children suffer because of weak minds like you.

Gina said...
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ta ra said...

Gina,
This is Viv' site,not mine. I you were honest in your opinions, you would trust her judgment,yet you flee when faced with criticism...just like the McCanns.

Game over.

ta ra said...

Gina,

I don't believe you. Viv might. It's her site. Stay for her if you are an honest inquirer. Stay for Madeleine if you care for child welfare.

I don't believe you. Others might.

Gina said...

Goodnight. Madeleine and other children suffer because of weak minds like you.
..................................

The above comment you have just made to me is totally insulting, how dare you.

Sorry Viv I cannot post here again, if I do I will retaliate to this kind of insult and I am sure you do not want in fighting.

Gina said...
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ta ra said...

Gina
Get over yourself. This is not a chatroom. Retaliation as you call it is the norm for the 'other blogs', particularly the McCann blogs.

I guess you were best suite there.

Under mild pressure,you reveal what you really are: an indifferent voyeur
or just another McCann mechanic.

Gina said...
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ta ra said...

Gina,

Every word you write now exposes what you are. Best rest.

Viv, Claudia, Alsabella are not prudes. They accept acronymns like WTF, FFS or shit/shite.

No one here uses obscene words like you (under the mildest pressure). Only the 'other blogs' do that.

Game over. BTW: you haven't got the skill or the stamina for this 'game' of some peoples' choosing.

Nice try. You lose.

Unknown said...

I have found Gina's conduct and foul language unacceptable and accordingly her account has been deleted along with posts made this evening which were particularly offensive.

I do not believe she upholds the principles that this blog is primarily about.

Viv

Ana said...

Hi everyone,
I don’t know if you have already seen this video done by Mariana.

It is a wonderful video and I want to congratulate her:
Congratulations Mariana and thank you for your hard work in the behalf of a child: Madeleine McCann - abandoned by her parents and adopted by all of us!
Justice must prevail. All children are our children, they are the future.
Our duty is to protect children from those who don’t care, to prevent others to suffer just like Madeleine has.

If you don’t have time to care about children, don’t have them at all! You know how to do it! Why the need of all those treatments? Social duty? Pride? Egoism? What?!

You, obviously, were not ready to the job, a life job! I really can not understand why you have done it!!!!
I had my say, thank you Viv for that!

Unknown said...

Morning Ana and anyone around

Thanks for giving me the link to that really good video by Mariana. I am proud to have her as a poster on here and wish I could produce such work!

I thought it was particuarly poignant the way she questioned was the tennis balls pic the last picture of her or the one they use where she looks three not four and to my amazement as Mariana demonstrated was flashed up above them as they sat, bold as brass, in the EU parliament telling them how Amber Alert could have saved Madeleine. I just do not know how they have the nerve but I suppose they find it from somewhere given what they have to lose by being brought to justice for what they have done.

We have adopted beautiful little Madeleine and remain the voice of reason for her, never mind what her parents want the world to believe. She rests with the Portuguese people where she has now become one of them and is safe from further harm, a nation of true child lovers who do not leave their children to go and dine. We will not forget Madeleine or the cause of justice in her name.

God Bless little Madeleine who her mother says told her had the best day of her life but was never seen again. Her mother says she tells herself everyday she is a good responsible parent and never did anything wrong. Then how come you did not love and protect your little child enough to bring her back home with you, Kate? How come you did not love her enough to go and look for her? How come you do not love her enough to go and help the police find out what happened to her? Do you really have the capacity to love, Kate or was Madeleine just too much trouble for you? Telling us she cried for 18 hours a day and shrieked with jealousy does not make her wrong and you right and it never will. She just had the right to be loved and cherished, a right all little children have, you, as her mother, denied her that right and failed to protect her from harm, from yourself maybe, you should face the truth and stop trying to tell yourself your are a good parent and you done nothing wrong. No reasonable person believes you and they never will.

Justice for Maddie xxxxxx

dolores said...

Viv,
What a heartfelt post I read it with much sadness for Madeleine, that her so called parents cannot even give her the right to a resting place,they have even taken that from her.I have never in my life witnessed such selfishment.
They know they were neglectful abusive parents,no matter how many times they talk themselves into thinking otherwise.Nothing will change that fact.

XX D

Daily Mail

Bad parents are the villains of the age, says Cameron as he promises to tackle anti-social behaviour.

But he is also concerned about other forms of neglect, including parents who fail to provide their children with support, affection or attention. "These are the great villains and problems today."

Anonymous said...

Good morning all,

G Mc "Anyway, we have our own kids to worry about now"

Tuesday, 20 May 2008 19:10:00 o'clock BST


Dolores I was reading yeasterday's posts. The above from a post from you yesterday. What did he mean by that statement, it is shocking. I found his 'it could have been worse, the twins could have been taken also' statement crass, the one above is worse.

Atardi,

I am glad you had a lovely day with the elderly. I especially love the fact the man who never left his room had a manicure. That tweaked my heart strings. It just shows that when others give a little of themselves it can have such a huge effect on the person/people receiving the kindness, time etc. Your pupils are lucky to have such a good teacher. It is the small things in life that can have the greatest effect.

Mariana, I watched the video. Congratulations it speaks volumes.

I am shocked, was Gina from the DE cloned.

I am going to be in Lisbon on the 27/5/08. We are visiting Fatima. I will send out good thoughts when I am there for Madeleine and all who are looking for the truth. I will also have a glass of wine in the evening and say thank you and hello (to myself of course) to all the Portuguese posters who have kept us informed with News from PT.

dolores said...

Zodiac,
Maybe it has something to do with the IVF.
They have certainly made a lot of bizzare comments.

dolores said...

Mum guilty of daughter sex abuse

A 28-year-old mother-of-three has been found guilty of sexually assaulting her two-year-old daughter.

The woman, who cannot be named to protect the identity of her child, took the child to her GP in October 2006 after finding blood in her nappy.

He referred her to the Royal Victoria Hospital where medics decided she had been sexually assaulted.

The mother said she was the only adult in contact with the girl during the time doctors said she was abused.

She denied sexually assaulting her young daughter and told the court she would never harm any of her children.

But a jury at Belfast Crown Court found her guilty of indecent assault and child cruelty, but cleared her of a third charge of wounding with intent.

The judge told the woman that she would be placed on the sex offenders' register after she is sentenced next month.

ratonthebeam said...

What is going on here? Has Gina been cloned?

Check out the troll forum, http://www.justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz

It has gone! :-?

Stella said...

Good Morning all.

When I first joined I remember questioning the identity of one poster, as to me she was not the original namesake as was on DE, and surprise, surprise, she vanished almost overnight. Be wary of anyone only now trying to set up their own web site? Why would you need to when we have a perfectly good one here already? IP address collectors, be careful who you trust.

What I think has happened, in the aftermath of the DE closure, Team McCann saw the ideal opportunity to clone as many regular DE posters as possible here. We may think they are the original posters, but there tone and manner is never the same.

I am pleased Viv has now removed her list of contributors from the front page. The trolls could easily spot who was missing to assume yet another identity. There was one name on that list I am yet to see one single post from on here, and I would say this is another dormant troll waiting to be reborn, SueB. I am sure they have many, many names in reserve as they know there will be many casualties along the way, it is called team tactics.

They will never stop us from seeking the truth. Goncalo said, “whoever it hurts”. Years from now they will all have to live with the knowledge that their own part however small in this little scam, has led to very many little children suffering at the hands of parents who are child abusers. I hope they all remember their little parts for the rest of their lives and hang their heads in total shame.

Stella said...

Sorry, I did not paste the first part of my last post..

Just like Leigh “our” Shepherdess, for some time now, I have had my suspicions about a couple of posters on here. The constant need to repeat certain key words and important phrases, really gave the game away. The time to perhaps sit on the fence, was one year ago. Fence sitting is the next best thing to saying the McCann’s are innocent. I have long believed there was a professional mediator placed on here, just chipping away in the background trying to restore an even keel, planting reasonable doubt is very useful to their cause. It is the only way they stand a chance of keeping “our” numbers from growing.

ratonthebeam said...

Oops, scratch that last comment of mine please, the fairies'n'kittens forum is back online. There seems to be an awful lot missing from it though? :-?

Stella said...

Dolores, Hi

I almost did not respond to your last post, as it made me feel very sick. I am beginning to wonder if Mental Health plays a much bigger role in these crimes, than we care to admit. How very, very sad..

When will children stop being used in this way?

LittleGreyCell said...

Hello Stella,

I'm a bit gobsmacked reading back this morning. Was Gina cloned? Could she really be an 'embedded' Pro?

Can't quite get my head around it, even though what you say about having someone on here to plant reasonable doubt does make sense (although it's a bit clever and subtle for the Pros).

Does this mean that Gina's cleaning tips were fake, too?? Are the Pros trying to humiliate us with their own brand of household tips? (This is the kind of people we're dealing with here).

By-the-way, anyone know how to check a penguin to see if he's really a penguin?...

Stella said...

LGC, Hi

Does your penguin have happy feet, and can dance? If so, he must be.

Me and Gina go back a long way. Mopolita was created on the back of Gina's cleaning tips and a rather suspicious syringe. However, the Gina on here to me has been slightly different and I am sure that I am not the only one who has noticed it. Maybe they have found a way to mimic people's google accounts? Seems strange that Gina said she was going away for some time and yet appears on here in another disguise. Or maybe all along a mediator was needed and now the ship is sinking fast all those involved like rats are having to jump ship any way they can?

LittleGreyCell said...

Stella,

Opus has a very happy beak when it's full of herring, but if I get the chance I'll have a look on his label to make sure he's kosher...(it's in a bit of a sensitive place, might have to creep up on him when he's not expecting it).

Yes, I do think the net is drawing in and the McCanns have backed themselves into a corner - any other cliches gladly accepted - and so I reckon there must be the odd headless chicken period now. I hadn't particularly noticed any difference with Gina recently, but then I've been somewhat busy with my work and haven't been around as much.

But I think your instinct should be trusted at the end of the day (yes!! another cliche!).

:)

Stella said...

LGC

If team members have now been issued with new team tactics, it makes perfect sense to put a trusted name into retirement for essential use. As Gina is well known the change in tactics would have been very noticeable, so they thought a change of name to Ellie would allow a different voice. Gina disappears into the sunset, up pops Ellie. Unfortunately for them, Leigh was on at the exact same time and is very intuitive and spotted the same lingo immediately. I have never seen any genuine poster ever write anything nasty about anyone, only trolls spout verbal diarrhoea..

Di said...

Dolores

If you are still around, the photo of the two cuddle cats that we were discussing last night, do you still have the link as Bath theory wanted to see it.

Or can anyone else help.

Thanks

Joe said...

I note the general consensus of the Pro lot is that reconstruction is pointless and one even suggesting its to malign the Tapas 9.

As I believe its to demonstrate any inconsistencies in the original statements and maybe suggest another line of inquiry. So why should the Tapas 9 be afraid if their statements are accurate, truthful and consistent? Added to this the wall to wall top class legal experts they have in tow and can accompany them.

IMO what they are afraid of is that their time lines may fall apart if they try reenact impossible events
If these time lines are true then the Tapas 9 should have the utmost confidence in their accounts and nothing to fear in such a high profile case. As I have said many times before it would hasten the lifting of Arguido status if the PJ were persuaded that their account is true and credible. For once they could be proactive instead of reactive.

Stella said...

LGC

Cleaning tips and any other tips that changed the subject is always useful to trolls.

Thou shall profess to sit on fence

Thou shall change the subject

Thou shall repeat the word abductor

Just part of the Trolls Ten Commandments....

Di said...

Stella

I have just read back. I wish now I had not mentioned earlier in the evening that if Gina was looking in I hoped she was having a good holiday.

I have not seen what Gina was supposed to have written, but Viv does not delete peoples accounts without just cause.

I'll be honest I had not noticed any difference in her posts.

LittleGreyCell said...

Stella,

Do you mean that Ellie was really Gina?

Unknown said...

Hi Viv, everyone,

Thank you for your kind words.
I am really glad to be here.
Let us ignore this idiotic troll, it is the "punishment" he/she deserves.


Hi Ana

Thank you, I am really glad you liked the video.

Hi Zodiac

Thank you too, you are very kind.

Justice for Madeleine, therefore pressure to the powers that and are protecting them.

Stella said...

LGC & Di

If you read Ellie's post, Leigh challenges her and says "tsk, come on Gina". The very next post is from Gina. Leigh was spot on then. Caught her out immediately. Why say you are not going to post for 5 months and then post under a different name. Team McCann tactics have changed.

Anonymous said...

I read a post where Gina said it was difficult to post from America.

Can anyone tell me why it is difficult to post from America? Especially as Gina's son works in IT.
I know SassyP had problems posting from Austria!

I am sick to my stomach that Gina from the DE has been cloned. I personally feel Gina on the DE was genuine.

Di said...

Mariana

Your video is excellent, and well done to you for taking the time and trouble to put it together. It shows how much you care.

Stella said...

Mariana

Glad your around, there is another fatal flaw with that crappy Masonichip idea. This would only work if the very second a child is snatched someone somewhere is tracking there every movement. This would just force paedophiles to snatch these children in the middle of the night when the parents are asleep giving them 6-8 hours of free time. Parents like the McCann's who do not check on them for 3 or more hours, also make that scheme worthless.

Unknown said...

Di

Thank you so much.
I have tried very hard to find something good about this useless "parental" couple, but I have failed.

Stella

Thank you too. Have you noticed GM's bottom drawing on his agenda?
Doesn't it look like the Freemason symbol?
This chip is a crappy idea just like you say.

Gina and Ellie is one person?

Anonymous said...

If Gina is posting as Ellie then to use a McC expression that is
'a bit odd'.

To all keyboard monkeys you would be better sticking to peeling bananas and picking lice of each other as far as I am concerned. All your McC based poopaganda will not change my opinion. Until I see and hear a live broadcast by the PJ telling me otherwise, I will continue to treat the McC's as suspects in the disappearance of their lovely daughter. The more insults and attacks you continue to throw at anyone who will not be spoonfed the most unbelievable ludicrous rubbish, it actually makes me think an accidental tragedy covered up to look like an abduction. Before all this poopaganda I merely thought, neglectful parents and the child wandered off never to be found. Parents and only parents to blame, IMHO.

Stella said...

Mariana

I spotted that also, I think he is so heavily involved in the Masons he thinks he will never be prosecuted.

Maybe Gina has flown to the US to help set up Team USA? Ellie as in Miss Ellie from Dallas, would be an appropriate choice.

Joe said...

The only thing that made me a little suspicious of Gina was for a fence sitter she was very forthright on several occasions( not fence sitter style). The only other thing was other times playing the dying swan and being too upset by the Pros and then stating she was not going to post again.

I have no trouble with debating with any of the Pros but they are not prepared to allow any debate to take place, an example being the non stop repeated posts of Assassin or abuse from Rosiepops or her alter ego Supertroll.

I think people give the team McCann too much credit and its a small band of hardcore pros that cannot face reality that want to disrupt debate on this issue.

Stella said...

Thinking about it I can just see Gina now in US saying to all her young recruits, Good morning Team USA, this is how you need to post, this is the new agenda, we have done cleaning tips now we need household DIY tips. Let us keep up the Global fight to confuse the world.....

ratonthebeam said...

I still can't believe that Gina was a "plant"?

Kate should have asked her for cleaning tips on how to wash DNA off curtains!

Are we 100% SURE that Gina is/was a troll?!

For the person who wanted the "2 Cuddle Cats" picture, I have a copy of it saved on another laptop; I will get it later tonight and send it to Viv to post up.

Stella said...

Joe

The Masons work by gathering up numbers of people all in the name of charity of course, to raise funds for good causes. What may have started out as a small band, is expanding rapidly and they have to get other countries involved who have not been following this closely. This is the only way they can raise more money. Why they tried Ireland, people with money. Why they need to get into the US, even more money.

Stella said...

ROTB

If Viv suddenly starts to get a large number of posters registering from the USA, we will know the answer to your question...

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Unknown said...

Stella,

The Masons can't protect them. They will end up in prison. They have fallen to the trap. It is only a matter of time.

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ratonthebeam said...

Guys - a thought -

Isn't Gina (the real one) on holiday right now in the US?

It is not unknown for trolls to write lies and rubbish, and clone people, and do other nasty things, when they know that somebody is not here to defend themselves!

I know because they did it to me.

Sorry, but I am still not convinced that this latest "Gina" is the "real" Gina.

Di said...

ROTB

Thanks for the help with the picture of two cuddlecats. Bath theory had not seen the picture that Dolores and I were discussing last night and thought it would ber a good idea to e-mail it to the PJs

Joe said...

Hi Stella,

I do not know much about the Freemasons really. I do believe that the membership is made up of Police,Judges, Lawyers, County Councillors, doctors, business people and people of influence. other than that they do charity work have their secret rituals and that a fellow mason must help another if asked, and they have secret signs and signals. It appears to be prerequisite for many people to gain entry to get ahead in life. I do not personally like secret organizations that exist where allegiance to such a Society supercedes ones moral and legal duty to society and the law.

I do not know enough to believe that the Freemasons are involved with this matter, I may be wrong.

hope4truth said...

Hi ALL

I am gutted I really like Gina sureley if she had been cloned she would have been able to e mail viv and let her know? Unless she just stopped posting when the DX was stopped???

Paranoia is high again (not such a bad feeling) I just dont understand why you need to play on line games?

I was told I was boring for allways talking about neglect? Im not being funny but whatever happend withouth the neglect it would not have and am I really to belive that neglect in this case is ok and they did nothing wrong? If that is the case the NSPCC and Childline should shut down imediatly and stop sticking their nose in when parents are crap or when children need to talk to someone about neglect or worse.

I do not want to live in a world where children come second to parents if all children were given the respect they deserve the world would be a much better place and children would grow up feeling loved and respected and would pass it on to their own children.

It does not take two parents to look after a child 1 person can do the job well and if a network of people are around to support as well all the better you do not have to be related to be a family so lets get some family values back and show all children how special and important they are.

I know there are many wild theories out there to what happend to Madeleine but sadly when a child goes missing no matter by who's hand it is not pleasent and nice.

Sorry rant over xxx

LittleGreyCell said...

Stella,

If it's a Dallas thing, it must mean that the whole abduction thing is a dream!

:)

Unknown said...

Sorry about the deleted ones guys, my pc went mad.

Anonymous said...

ROTB,

I hope the latest Gina is not the real Gina. I do believe that there is a real GinaM.

LittleGreyCell said...

Rat,

I, too, had that thought - while the poster's away, the Pros will play dirty...

hope4truth said...

LGC

Hello good to see you...

Did you get all your writing done on time???

Hope you are still well xxx

Stella said...

ROTB

Only Viv I guess will know if the Gina last night signed in as Gina or signed in as someone else and changed their ID to Gina. We will have to wait and see..

Have any of you ever seen Leigh react like this before, because I havn't. If Leigh had thought Gina had been cloned, surely she would have told the clone to stop using Gina's name.

Di said...

ROTB

I did wonder about a clone as Gina was away. She did mention if she could get hold of one of her son's computers she would look in so it could have been her, but if she was using foul language I only remember her doing this once, I don't remember it being that bad, and then she immediately apologised to Viv. Why also did she tell me not to go to the other site. It is all very confusing.

LittleGreyCell said...

Hello Hope,

Good to see you, too! I know you're real, but I have my doubts about me sometimes... ;)

Yes, thanks, on both counts - am very fit and met two deadlines! Hurrah!

How are you? Did I see you have to go back to the dentist for another go?

X

Di said...

Stella

Oh no are you saying Leigh is a clone as well!!

LittleGreyCell said...

Di,

I hope I don't find out my penguin is really a biscuit...

:)

hope4truth said...

LGC

I am fine thanks had to go back 3 times to dentist (once more to go I think she is a Pro who is out to get me LOL)... Tooth fine now...

Just having a break before a meeting it is lovely here today I bet it rains all weekend...

I am sure you are real as well if I have any doubts I will ask Opus he will spill all for a few chocie herring crispie cakes xxx

LittleGreyCell said...

Hope,

Shame the Pros haven't tried the choccie crispie cakes on the PJ...

hope4truth said...

LGC

It would be worth the smell of baking a batch LOL

Di said...

LGC

It is always good to have you around to cheer us all up.

There's no chance of you being cloned we would all know immediately :o)

Stella said...

Di

You may have a point there. Will have to go back and read again, will let you know.

Unknown said...

LGC

What is going on? How many robotoits?

Anonymous said...

I do not know how others feel, I am sick and tired of Poopertroll. How is her/she/it's tactics helping M or the Mac's. I read on 3A's today that justice4all blog has been reported (where I do not know) thank goodness for that. If this disgusting poster is related to the Mac's I hope their identity is exposed. Will not be surprised if pink is it's favourite colour.

LittleGreyCell said...

Hope,

Can you imagine reports of the McCann's tame millionaire flying over to Portugal to meet with Robert Murat, the PJ and Metodo3 with a very big bag and a large clothespeg on his nose?

"The meetings to 'discuss the case' took place in the open air for obvious reasons..." (and I don't mean bugging).

:)

Joe said...

I do not see what harm it was having Gina on this site even IF she is really a PRO. The other lot can read what is posted here anyway and their posts are read as well on their sites. I was not privy to any abusive language so I cannot comment on the decision to ban her or is it even my business. Its a pity though that matters sometimes descend to this level.

LittleGreyCell said...

Di,

How kind of you!

I'll tell you how to spot if anyone clones me, Di, it's when I start to give out cleaning tips...(not my strong point).

:)

Di said...

I posted a comment on 3As yesterday, saying that Clarence came out with the excuse that the reason the Tapas statements for events on the night of 3rd May were all over the place, was because none of them had watches or mobiles with them.

I was asked to prove he said it as it was more likely to be forum myth, or words to that effect.

Am I correct or have I dreamt it, I don't like to post incorrect facts.

LittleGreyCell said...

Mariana,

Something very strange happened last night, and Gina's account on here was suspended by Viv. We're just trying to work out if Gina was really Gina, if you follow me...

hope4truth said...

LGC

I have a very amusing image in my head now and have to leave to go to a meeting (I will have a big smile on my face I am just glad I am the client as they will have to humor me)xxx

See you all later I will look at the video when I get back xxx

Unknown said...

Di

That is correct. No watches, no phones. CM said it.

LittleGreyCell said...

Zodiac,

Yes, I read that on the 3As. Did you see the appalling xenophobia on the Pros site? It's truly shocking. his is why it was reported, quite rightly.

Anonymous said...

Joe,

I did not see the offending posts last night either. Although I do believe that Viv would not be unfair and it must have been a hard decision. Is it a coincidence that these posts were posted and a new poster turns up the same day that Viv was inundated with praise for her blog by the posters on here. We all know that Poopertroll would love to see us all turn on each other and not post here anymore. I will not allow the ignorant and arrogant to try and silence me.

Di said...

Mariana

Thank you for confirming it was Clarence, do you know if he said it during an interview or was it reported in the papers.

LittleGreyCell said...

Di,

Here's a link for Sky News in which it quotes Clarence the Cross-Eyed Spin Lion:-

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1311972,00.html

Anonymous said...

LGC,

I only read what was posted on the 3 A's from that filthy place. I am glad it has been reported. This kind of behaviour in support of the McC's should be public knowledge. They are hiding behind the net and accusing decent people appalled by the neglect, of the behaviour they adopt. They are starting to really annoy me now.
BBFN.

Stella said...

I guess we will have to wait until this evening when hopefully Leigh will be on and be able to confirm that she was on last night and why she thought Gina was up to something.

Di said...

LGC

Thanks for the link, I wanted a watertight case before I respond. I have no doubt I will get an unpleasant reply but here goes.

LittleGreyCell said...

Zodiac,

They're just ruthless street fighters with a strong sense of self-preservation above all else.

Their moral compass is somewhat conspicuous by its absence, and their lack of intelligence stops them from seeing how they're alienating the very people they want to get on their side. Not to mention convince the public and the authorities that the McCanns have something rather serious they don't want to get caught for...

Anyway, nice to see you. have a good afternoon!

LittleGreyCell said...

Di,

Good luck! :)

Unknown said...

Zodiac

Suppose we report some blog for any reason.
Google gets the lawyers to check it out.
Even though they find something terribly wrong they do not shut it down, at best the site stops appearing on the search engine.
People need a court decision for Google to shut the blog.
Google claims it is free speech and that they give a voice to the minorities.

LittleGreyCell said...

I'm off for a while now, too.

Have a good afternoon, folks!

:)

Stella said...

On Sky we are hearing more about the Jersey Care Home scandal and the new Birmingham child abuse story.

Is there a need to pump the news outlets with as many horrific child abuse news items to soften the blow for some other type of child abuse news arriving soon?

Stella said...

Have to dash, back later....

dolores said...

Di
I posted the photo of the 2 cuddle cats to Viv weeks ago,and Iknow she has been terribly busy,and maybe overlooked it.
It will take quite a bit of searching to find it again and as soon as I find it I will post again.

X D

dolores said...

Stella
The reason I posted the article about the sexually abusive mother was to prove a point that some blogs don't seem to find it concievable that mothers can do this to their children.

xx D

Di said...

Dolores

Don't worry, ROTB replied saying she had the photo and would ask Viv to post it later.

Thanks anyway.

dolores said...

This might be of interest it's Blogger Rules.
And if some on 3 A's reported the disgusting racist letter by Christabel on the house of filth, she is in real trouble.
I have a copy of this letter.
I will post on here if Viv wants all to see it.


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dolores said...

Actually I will give you the link if anyone wants to see the sickness of these racists.

Sorry to all Portuguese friends if this offends you,perhaps you want to send it to your authorities.
XX D



http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/madeleine-mccann-f1/portugal-is-becoming-the-new-gangsters-paradise-t118.htm#772

ratonthebeam said...

Dolores

It's not even original. Yet again, Christabile is lifting stuff verbatim from other sites and posting it as her own "work". She's taken it as a copy and paste from www.discoveringportugal.net

As yet I don't know who is behind that one, it seems to be a company in America.

Joe said...

Zodiac,

Thank you for your reply. Free speech is a right and the likes of Rosiepops et al are not going to stop us, because if they cannot handle the truth or even opinions or nations different to them they should just call it a day and quit the blogs.

Joe said...

Having read the post of Christabel, one word comes to mind INCOHERENT nonesense. Its like she is trying to be clever with the alphabet but not understanding what her made up words mean. If it made sense perhaps we could discuss it.

dolores said...

ROTB,
So in other words she is a brainless twit.With no voice of her own. I wonder what fills the void where her brain should be.

Ecolab said...

The best way to "silence" a petty person is by ignoring its exsistence!

hope4truth said...

Hi All

I have just been reading the terible news report about a child starving to death in Birmingham.

What a sad sad thing to happen to a child in 2008 the Mother and so called Step Father must be evil beyond words to allow 6 children to starve one to starve to death.

When are people going to start to put children first? I cant belive this has happend in my country it is so very very sad.

I hope they lock the pair of them up and throw away the key discusting.

As a mother how can you stand back and allow this to happen? I forgot to call the school once when my daughter was ill they were on the phone by 10am asking where she was. It is not the schools responsibility to protect the children but were they not missed? Where are social services when they are needed they were quick enough to try and remove a baby from a mother who had been depressed in her teens.

I wish I could think of something to do that would make a diffrence but cant think of a single thing.

God bless each of those poor children.

nancy said...

Hi everyone -

I just popped in for a quick read, as I've been out for most of the day.

I'm so surprised to hear about the Gina cloning, but I must admit I wouldn't know a clone from an original because I'm not that perceptive!

I remember her with pleasure on the DX. And on the Alsabella blog too. I must say it's never occurred to me that it wasn't the same Gina.

She lives on the Costa Blanca I know but a different vicinity to where I live. I had at one time thought of getting Viv to give her my e-mail so we could meet up.
I do believe she lives where she says because she always commented on the weather and it was the same as where I am.

If this one who posted last night is her clone, then maybe when the real Gina returns from the states she can sort something out with Viv and Claudia! It's all very mystifying, but in her defence I don't remember her using foul language at all - ok she got a bit heated sometimes and maybe spelled it out as we all do, but I never found her offensive. I can only assume that a few comments made last night that were deleted contained stuff Viv thought was out of order.

To be quite honest though, I think she was getting a bit bored and fed up with it all and often said she wouldn't post again, until we all persuaded her back again. So perhaps it's all for the best.

However, at the end of the day, this is Viv and Claudia's blog and the decision of who to oust or keep on is down to them, and as I've been blogging on here since Alsabella went, I can only say I've always found them both extremely fair with everyone.

Nx

nancy said...

Hope -

Yes, what a sad world we live in when little children can be thought so worthless by their parents.

Nobody in the UK needs to starve today with the welfare system in place! Absolutely heartbreaking - I hate hearing about any sort of child cruelty or abuse and, like you, cannot imagine anyone treating children like this - worse than you would treat an animal.

What springs to mind is how come the Social Services missed out on not just one starving child but six!!

I know that Social Services have a very hard job to do these days with so many drug users becoming parents, and using what money they have to feed their habit but I do feel that some system should be put in place where it's the law that all children up to school age must attend a children's clinic on a regular basis so that they can be kept an eye on - this for upper class children as well as the poor, because it's not just the poor who illtreat their children.

Children should be a nation's prime concern, yet if we are to believe the figures on child neglect and abuse, they seem to come a long way down the list for the politicians!

I just wish that people who didn't 100% want children would make certain they stayed childless!!

Nx

hope4truth said...

Hi Nancy

Maybe that is the answer children should be screened on a regular basis and if missing from school and not enroled in a new one be put on a danger list (dont know how that would work though but with computers there must be some kind of data base...

Lets face it if a parent recieves chidld benefit (which we all do rich or poor)then the child should be in school and if they are missing find out why. If a parent moves abroad they must notify the authorities and that can even be checked out if their passport has been scanned.

I have no answers and the above probebly would not work but how do five children nearly starve to death and one child die in England 2008 it is beyond belief...

xxx

Ecolab said...

ONE big fat lie:"Meanwhile, little Amelie has abandoned her own Snuggles cat toy and taken to carrying around Cuddle Cat, her sister’s favourite soft toy. "



If cuddle / snuggle cats could talk,
What would they say;
What would they tell you,
About the children with whom they play?
They might tell you things
You don't want to hear;
Like Mommy hurt Maddie,
Or Daddy is who we fear.
The cuddle / snuggle cats of children
Are not just some toy;
They're sometimes the only love felt,
By some little girl or boy.


The yellow CuddleCat

Unknown said...

Hiya all

I would like to see the pics of two cuddlecats, but have a feeling the police would already know about this because all relevant evidence, which photographs most certainly are, will have been stringently analysed. For the same reason, I think the police will have come to a similar view about the authenticity of the supposed last picture of Madeleine. This was clearly not on the camera that Mr Woolfall apparently downloaded with the McCanns..a difficult process for them I am sure. It was produced by Gerry McCann three weeks later and just two days after he made a trip home. I have often thought his behaviour is just to cynical and obvious and this is another prime example. A bit like calling that woman over to the table at 9.30, bearing in mind he claimed on Panorama Madeleine got abducted about 9.40, not 9.15 as he is now claiming to tie in with the pathetic story of Tanner. By calling her over he wanted to make sure he had an independent witness that he was not involved in the disappearance of Madeleine. He even gets Kate to make the grim discovery. As we know a German witness, corroborated by another will say that Kate actually went back to the apartment much earlier than 10 pm. This means that if she was abducted she knew about it for at least an hour before the police were called. Now I ask you.

As far as Gina is concerned, I can assure you that it was her. Just like Doppel she spends far too much time in the company of a sick troll who has mercilessly stalked and harassed me, and forced me to make this blog members only. There is no debate about Madeleine on there, it is more about how I mis-spell things etc, proving that every word I write is minutely scrutinised by these sick people, and just downright abusive. If ever I do read it I am amazed they seem to know more about what I have written than even I remember and find this really bizarre, all sort of wild theories and conclusions are drawn. No one should be encouraging the debate to just descend into abuse of other posters or worse still, racism which is all the troll blogs stand for. This is downright disrespectful to the memory of Madeleine. Why should these people write all this abusive filth in the name of her and the McCanns? Gina was very abusive last night and as ever completely off topic. I certainly do not mind people posting off topic, this can be fun and light relief, but someone who just makes plain they are not interested in the topic and seeks to divert the discussions together with the above concerns finally persuaded me enough was enough. She even wrote and told me she deliberately posts on cleaning topics etc to divert the discussions because they are pointless, then why bother if she feels that way?


Viv x

hope4truth said...

Hi Viv

I think everyone is watching the fotball (as am I but not through choice cant belive it has gone to extra time :o(...)

Are you ok?

Isnt it terrible about the poor child who starved to death the news has just put a picture of her up she was a lovely little girl what is it with bloody parents?

xxx

ta ra said...

Evening All,

On Saturday, another child died of neglect in the UK. Her mother and step-father have been charged. The child and her 5 siblings were starving. That's a slow, painful death of the body, and/or the soul, neglected, abused, ignored.

Today, the police announce that the human remains found in Jersey confirm that at least one child was murdered. The remains are 'milk teeth', and broken bones.

'Gina' whitters on about herself, and assists the McCann defence campaign which we have all seen based on 'D': deny, dispute, disrupt, demean, divert attention from the central issue of another 'D'.

'D' for death. The death of Madeleine Beth McCann, beloved sister or Sean and Amelie, all of them neglected by parents, night after night, while their parents partied elsewhere.

Complacency kills. People like 'Gina' divert attention from that fact because they are so busy comforting their own egos that they forget only adults can protect defenceless children.

The McCanns are wrong. Gina is wrong. That is why I object to 'Gina's' whittering egotism.

At the top of this website page is a clear declaration from its founder, Viv.

It seems to me that this is a sociable place. We exchange information, and ideas, here and elsewhere.

The Daily Express online forum died long before it was cancelled. It died when it became a place for idle chit chat (a McCann tactic to divert attention from serious issues), and a place for ad hominem (attacking the person instead of addressing the issue they raised).

We can be friends of children, all from our different backgrounds, I think.

Personally, I think it is disrespectful to the big issues raised by Madeleine's 'disappearance' for people like 'Gina' to ignore all of yesterday's genuine issues, and merely write like she's in a chat room.

Was she cloned? Who is the 'real' Gina?

Frankly, my dears, I don't give a damn.

Viv has set up this place for honest inquiry; a safe place for friendly folk to exchange information in a civilised way. We're happy to enjoy banter at times, but our eyes are wide open.

'Gina' had another agenda. That became crystal clear last night.

BTW: Ellie. ? De donde es usted. El Lie o truth? I await your response with interest.

ta ra said...

And finally,

I think there are many bright minds and kind souls on this forum. It's inspiring.

Stella by Starlight,
On the darkest night, the stars do shine. 'Information is light', wrote Tom Stoppard, English playwrite. It's true what you say: the mediators assume a passive aggressive role; they seek to seduce the 'don't knows', and create a doubt that will be useful in the McCanns' defence case.

Ecolab,
In this quiet moment of ongoing investigation, I like your poem as follows:

If cuddle / snuggle cats could talk,
What would they say;
What would they tell you,
About the children with whom they play?
They might tell you things
You don't want to hear;
Like Mommy hurt Maddie,
Or Daddy is who we fear.
The cuddle / snuggle cats of children
Are not just some toy;
They're sometimes the only love felt,
By some little girl or boy.

hope4truth said...

Leigh

Well you certainly hit my paranoia button again world weired web indeed...

As for Ellie if she is genuine I feel sorry for her. I have therefore decided to trust no one except Opus LOL x

ta ra said...

Hopefortruth,

You are such a darling. Yes! Trust Opus, and LGC, one of the best writers I have ever seen.

Herrings for all ;-)
x
leigh

Anonymous said...

Having read Viv and Leigh's posts I am disappointed that Gina would behave in the manner she did last night. I agree posting off topic sometimes is a much welcome break however this blog is not pointless and if I ever feel that way about it, I will politely say goodbye and thank Viv for allowing me to be a member. I do not understand why Gina did not just enjoy her time with her family. I never understood why she posted on Poopertrolls site either.

hope4truth said...

leigh

Herrings for all indeed I will ask Opus to keep an eye on LGC just in case she decides to stop being funny x

hope4truth said...

Hi Zodiac

I constantly post off topic (Diet springs to mind) but I think if we did not do so we would all go mad.

xxx

Anonymous said...

Ecolab,

They're sometimes the only love felt,
By some little girl or boy.


Your poem is very deep, excellent.
The above line, that poor little girl wherever she is does not even have her comforter (if it is hers) how sad.

ta ra said...

Zodiac,

'Inconsistencies'. 'Contradictions'. Perhaps these things tells us more than people's words. Just a thought.

I hope you have a fabulous trip to Portugal. When you see Fatima, would you do me a favour? A prayer for Father Pacheco, an honest man, wronged.

Thank you. I know you will.
x
leigh

Anonymous said...

H4T,

You must have read my mind. I was just thinking 'I wonder if there is a herring diet'. Yuk!

hope4truth said...

zodiac

If all I had to eat was herring I would be tiny I hate fish LOL x

hope4truth said...

Goodnight ALL

I cant stand another minute of football and am off to bed xxx

ta ra said...

Hopefortruth,

You are always on message, even when you are being a jolly soul, befriending all of us strangers.
I saw your ardent defence of children earlier today.

As you know, jolly banter keeps us happy, and focused. Focused on the serious purpose of child welfare, and the ongoing inquiry.

Anonymous said...

Leigh,

Thank you, I will have a fabulous time. I also know my child will be safe.
I will say a prayer for Fr Pacheco. I will also say one for all of us.

ta ra said...

H4T,

Traitor!! The game's not over. It's 1-1.

BTW: just teasing. Off to bed too. See you next time.

Anonymous said...

Goodnight Hope. xx

ta ra said...

Zodiac,
Thank you.
See you next time.
x
leigh

Anonymous said...

Goodnight Leigh. xx

I am off also. Read everyone another day.

hope4truth said...

Zodiac

LOL I cant seem to leave the room!!!

Oh no penalties I am def off see you tomorrow...

Night Leigh and Viv and anyone else that pops up before I leave xxx

ta ra said...

Dear Viv,

You are more patient than me. I just saw what you wrote about Gina telling you she deliberately posts about cleaning tips/off topic because she thinks this ongoing inquiry is pointless.

What an arrogant, silly bint, she is, I think.

Pity that so many genuine commentators have been diverted from honest inquiry because of her cynical, self-serving ego.

Night, Viv.
Much love to you and yours.
xo
leigh, and others.

bath theory said...

Hi Leigh 3 - great words.

..This is our world. We will make it what it is.

Indeed Leigh 3 , I don't know why but I have a very strong feeling tonight (based on nothing at all) but I feel the McCann's are going to feel very different about themselves sooner than we may think.

:)

Unknown said...

Hiya all

Leigh, sometimes you really do make me laugh as well:

"what an arrogant silly bint"

I suppose running the blog I try and pull my punches a bit! Mind you did you know, that either, you are me, or I am or you, or we planned it together..ummm:-)))) I am struggling to know why I would need to plan it, I could have just gone click! I suppose their reasoning would not extend that far..(!)

I have put a fresh post up about the sad death of Khyra and abuse of her siblings too.

Unknown said...

silly me, Leigh, I forgot, you are my son Luke, who goes to work at 8 pm every night but obviously, against the rules, takes his mobile and sits posting on here:-))

Sometimes you just have to laugh!

ta ra said...

Dear Viv,

There's an old song with a refrain 'Someone to watch over me.'

I'm watching over you, and your endeavours.

Sometimes, we will laugh. At other times, I will do what your restraint cannot do.

This is one final warning to trolls. Do not disrespect Viv, and her efforts to defend children.

Got that, Clarence? One final warning. My patience wears thin now. I think I've been very patient; more patient than you lot. Gloves off? Only from your side. My side is still patient...at the moment.

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