Hi All
Have not had much time of late but amid the speculation this case is about to be shelved felt I should publish this report in BBC news and would point out there is an entirely similar one on Sky. The Attorney General is the most senior Government Law Officer in the UK and I would imagine this is the same in Portugal. Following these reports he had decided to speak out to quash them. Sky has the reputation of being extremely Pro-McCann and if there were any truth in the suggestions the case is to be shelved, one could guarantee they would be running it. In addition the McCanns are just about to take on Leicester Police. They would have no need of such action if they were about to have their status as suspects dropped and both they and Murat confirm they have heard no such thing. As you all know, my own view is that it is very likely the McCanns will ultimately be prosecuted in the UK, but I would like to stress again, their friends could not be prosecuted for child neglect, we do not have the jurisdiction to prosecute less serious cases that happened abroad. We most certainly do have jurisdiction in relation to homicide and other connected and very serious offences including the conduct of O'Brien and Tanner. Goncalo Amaral has been on TV tonight and confirmed Madeleine died in the apartment on 3 May. I would appeal to people to use their common sense and accept what the officer who actually investigated the case says. Clearly he would say no such thing if this were not true, knowing the McCanns have constantly searched for someone to sue, even the PJ! and extracted a settlement in their action against Express Newspapers.
I firmly believe this case is not over yet, but ultimately the McCanns will face charges, we just cannot be clear when that will be. If they have arranged for false sightings of Madeleine this is very serious evidence against them in relation to homicide and certainly not something the police would shelve or ignore!
Viv x
'No decision' on Madeleine case
Madeleine was on holiday in the Algarve when she disappeared
No decision has been taken on the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, Portugal's attorney general has said.
Fernando Pinto Monteiro said the case continued to be assessed, after Portuguese media reports that police will close it due to lack of evidence.
Parents Kate and Gerry McCann are both official suspects in the inquiry, along with a third man, Robert Murat.
Madeleine, of Rothley, Leics, went missing in Praia da Luz on 3 May 2007.
She was three-years-old at the time.
'Shelved' reports
Mr Monteiro's comments came after newspaper reports that the case would be "shelved", meaning police would no longer devote resources to investigating it.
He said the final report from the Policia Judiciaria had been received by prosecutors, and it "will be the object of careful analysis and consideration".
McCann family spokesman Clarence Mitchell gives his reaction
"Public prosecutors will proceed to the overall analysis to determine whether or not other action is necessary or whether the conditions are sufficient to rule that the investigation be closed and a final ruling made," he said.
The statement noted that the case remained covered by judicial secrecy until mid-August.
The Correio da Manha newspaper said on Tuesday that sources within Portugal's judicial police said they "do not have sufficient evidence to allow formal charges to be brought against the McCanns in the disappearance of their daughter".
The Jornal de Noticias said the police did not have enough evidence to charge either the McCanns or Mr Murat with any wrongdoing.
"The police have not found the guilty," the paper added.
One newspaper said the case had already been closed, another that the end of the investigation would be announced within the next few days.
Family 'suffered enough'
The McCanns were declared official suspects in the case - "arguidos" in Portuguese legal jargon - last September.
Earlier, their spokesman Clarence Mitchell told the BBC the family was awaiting confirmation of the latest media reports and if true, the Portuguese authorities "must lift their arguido status as a priority".
"If they are true, it's to be welcomed that Kate and Gerry are not to face any charges," he said.
What we don't want is that information to lie on a shelf somewhere gathering dust
Clarence MitchellKate and Gerry McCann's spokesman
Madeleine case begins to fade
Madeleine case timeline
"It's quite right. They are innocent of any involvement in Madeleine's disappearance. They have suffered enough."
Mr Mitchell said the family wanted to know whether police planned to stop searching for Madeleine and if so, their information should be made public so the McCanns could continue their private investigation.
"What happens to all those leads, all those contacts? There are thousands of pieces of information in those files," he said.
"What we don't want is that information to lie on a shelf somewhere gathering dust.
"Surely it's only humane and decent that information that could help find Madeleine comes to the investigators, who will keep looking for her, even if the police feel they can't."
Mr and Mrs McCann are due to go to the High Court on 7 July to ask a judge to order police files on the disappearance of their daughter to be released.
Murat's status
Briton Mr Murat lives with his mother in Praia da Luz close to the apartment where Madeleine was last seen. He strongly denies any involvement in her disappearance.
His lawyer Francisco Pagarete said he had heard nothing from the Portuguese authorities about the case being closed.
Asked whether he would welcome such a development, Mr Pagarete said: "Yes, we will, but it depends on the way it's going to be dropped.
"If it's going to be dropped because there's not enough evidence connecting my client to this case or if it's going to be dropped because Robert hasn't got any involvement in this case.
"Only the second way will make us happy."
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Doc, yes I do mean all those letters! lolol
Hey, it's not me. It's Gonçalo! ;-)
Mandarinn, thank you. Muito obrigada. és uma querida! :-)
Viv, I'm sure Gonçalo will have a lot to tell about that topic. And maybe what he has got to say about it will surprise us all.
You had to take that joy from me, right, Doc? ;-) How could you? lolol
Oh Doc well done!
Well Claudia, we know we can play that game, the McCanns say they were truly responsible parents making regular checks every 30 minutes or so, but we already know there are many witnesses who say they just did not do this and unfortunately for them, that even includes members of their own group, who quite clearly are not prepared to risk their own reputation or a custodial sentence for Kate and Gerry McCann. Did we hear several months back the Paynes boycotted a church service? I believe that was the end to a friendship, the day Gerry tried to rope them in, having a baby monitor is far from ideal but makes it something less than complete apathy!
I think the cook and the waiters are good parents and have good memories, not that they will need them because their evidence would have been recorded when it was very fresh in their minds.
We heard all this guff from Kate and Gerry supporters - the PJ should have set up an incident room, well that is exactly what they did interviewing absolutely everyone, on site! There was nothing half soaked or inadequate here!
Viv x
Birthday's over, lady.
Doc
I reckon big clues are the letters I and S
Mystic Meg xxxxxx
IS it, Viv? lololol!
Hiya Claudia
I am not easily shocked or surprised but somehow I think Goncalo will have the capacity to do so! It will be even worse than what we heard..
You can still have happy birthday, take no notice of Doc:-))))))
Doc,
Yes it IS it, me and Claudia said so:-)))))))
xxx
Cláudia,
Not 29 but from 1975. Frome the DE.
Hallo Atardi, ek dog jy slaap al. Hoop dit gaan goed met die vakansie so ver!
Viv, yes we know it because it's been written in many places. But let's not forget that the 'official' version was regular checks every 15, 20, 30 minutes (choose the one you like the most) and that some have always used that 'fact' to say that is responsible parenting (yeah, right). However, let's imagine that in the files there are 2 or 3 witnesses who state Y never left the table at all, for instance. Everybody will know. How do you spin that? And other details that may come up? It's easier when oficially nothing can be denied. But once it becomes public, no spin will do. I think those will be interesting times. And I'm sure the pros will be very happy and the world will also be very happy because as soon as the files are handed over to 'competent' investigators Madeleine will be found (safe and sound, of course) in a matter of hours. Everything will be like a bad dream and the McCanns will once again be the perfect, loving family they have always been. We will all find out how terribly treated they were by the terrible people who didn't believe them and who accused them of being bad, irresponsible parents when, in fact, they were victims of very bad luck. We will all learn that Madeleine was taken by a childless couple who treated her like a little, lovely, beautiful princess she is and that she was always safe and unharmed like her parents predicted. Then, the world will finally be a perfect place. All wars will stop, no more children will be mistreated, raped, forgotten and neglected. No more children will die of hunger. All diseases will be cured and humankink will stop destroying our planet. And we will all praise the new Gods, kneeling down and asking for eternal forgiveness.
Atardi, what do you mean? Sorry, but I'm up since 7 am yesterday! :-)
Doc, hey, you listen to Viv. Don't you know you can't contradict her? Are you crazy, man? Oh boy, you're in big trouble now, mister! lolololol
Just got 'the call'. Time to fly. BBFN
Hey, doc, stay a little longer. I'm sure the 'cleaning' can wait.
Funnily enough Claudia I was just off and then saw your typing error. d is nowhere near k on any keyboard. 'Humankink'? I'm still PMSL!!!
Doc, lolololol
One million more like that and I'll turn into Sian! lololol
Oh my, my birthday was a good day. But this one is also starting well! :-)
Doc,
Ik ga bijna naar bed maar het is vakantie (met pubers)dus alijd later.
I told you the cleaning could wait. See how I made you stay a little longer? ;-)
Tomorrow's Correio da Manhá will have a piece of news about charging the McCanns with abandonment. The full article will probably only be available tomorrow.
Atardi, 'pubers' = 'adolescents'? Enjoy the sleep when it comes your way :-)
Yes Claudia, but the second alarm bell has just rung so I'm really off now. Enjoy the rest of your evening and congrats once more! xxx
Nancy,
I think someone commented this already.
But you are one of the first posters(instead of Nikki).
What do you think of this?
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Updated: 03 July 2008
British Consul resigns for family reasons
Outgoing British Consul, Celia Edwards. Photo: SUPPLIED
Outgoing British Consul, Celia Edwards. Photo: SUPPLIED
By: DAISY SAMPSON
daisy.sampson@the-resident.com
BRITISH CONSUL Celia Edwards has left her post after just one year to return to the UK because of family reasons and to pursue her legal career.
The former consul, who was also Head of Post, said: “It has been a good and challenging year for Portimão, where I have dealt with high profile cases and also been involved in the merger of the consular operations in Portugal and Spain into a single entity.”
The biggest high profile event Celia Edwards faced in her one-year tenure was helping to deal with many aspects of the case of missing Madeleine McCann and the subsequent naming of Gerry and Kate McCann as arguidos or suspects in her disappearance.
A spokesman from the British Embassy told The Resident: “We can confirm that Celia has resigned from her post for personal reasons.
“Staff at the consulate in Portimão will be handling everything until a new Head of Post is found. Assistance and support for British persons both living and holidaying in the Algarve will continue as normal”
Replacement
In an email to business people in the Algarve, Celia Edwards gave an insight into her decision: “I have also been away from my family, who remained in London throughout my year in post.”
Celia stood down from her post on Monday and a spokesman from the Foreign and Commonwealth Office confirmed that the British Embassy was now actively recruiting a replacement for the Consulate in Portimão.
In a statement issued by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, the British Embassy said: “We are grateful for Celia Edwards’ contribution to the consulate and for the work she did in the Algarve over the past year.
Thanks, Doc.
I'll be off soon.
Happy cleaning, mister! :-)
I just figured what Atardi was getting at. It was Claudia79, not 1975. 1979+29=2008. Sorted. Nitex
Doc, I'm almost as impressed by your mathematical skills as I am by your mop! :-)
Boa noite, all.
And thank you!
xxxx
Boa Noite all
and Claudia I hope you have a lovely day tomorrow as well:-)))
Viv x
Claudia a very happy birthday to you. xxx
ARTICLE UPDATED 3/07/08 Google translation
link original site:
http://www.kidnapping.be/maddie/maddie.html
(note that the articles are written by experimented Belgian policemen)
The procedure will be classified as homicide!
The proceedings on the disappearance of Madeleine McCann will be included in the archives of Portimao by court decision of the Public Ministry, under the label: Homicide. The prosecutor record holder, Magalhães e Menezes, émarge file (ie. He describes the case or the prosecution) as: "KILLINGS AND QUALIFIED OCCULTATION OF DEAD BODY"
The PJ has delivered its final report on all research done since May 2007. The press was quick to say that the final document (remember that this is a record of several volumes) did not contain sufficient evidence and the case is closed. Note, for the sake of completeness, that many newspapers based all their articles mainly on the news agency. Thus, in our previous article, we did an article based ONLY on news agency as we receive any other medium. Most observers of you will realize that this article looked like two drops of water to those published by other media and because it came from the same agencies. The basic article of the news agency did not stipulated that the case dismissed but left planer doubt. Also, depending on the interpretation of each other, various newspapers have concluded that the case was not only close but also dismissed. But the reality is more subtle than that.
It is the Public Ministry, which decides!
At the time of this writing, the Public Ministry (MP) studied required or not to seek new duties inquiries. The filing of the dossier Madeleine McCann, disappeared on May 03, 2007, is absolutely not a certainty! On the contrary, it is more than likely that further investigation duties are applied to the PJ by the MP. It can not be ruled out that friends of McCann be invited to return to Portugal. The PJ has sent a final report containing all the "due diligence" and investigations made during these months and the means used. The report is now in the hands of PM and will be "assessed and a careful balancing" as a guaranteed source close to the Attorney General of the Republic in a press release sent to all editors.
Towards a new replenishment?
The new duties of possible investigation can go through a new replenishment of the night of the disappearance of Maddie. This means that friends of the couple McCann McCann as well as themselves, should be invited for some and reported for others to come to Portugal. We have no illusions in this regard, we are not utopian, we know that this recovery will not happen but we are curious to know what friends of McCann will be given as excuses this time for not participate? The report pointed out inconsistencies between the various statements by the friends of the couple on the events of the night of the disappearance. The MP might want to remove all doubts. In the same press release sent to editors, the PGR also guaranteed that the end of the secrecy of justice will be on August 14! There is little time before the case is brought to all. The report, which has 19 volumes and thousands of documents does not indicate whether the case should be archived (classified) or whether to launch a prosecution process. The reason is simple: It belongs to the MP to decide whether the case should be classified or whether to launch a formal accusation. The PJ will "limit" to do an investigation, research, to perform duties of field surveys and present the evidence collected, but no more. The police are not judges! They present facts as they are, in the rough and it is the MP to decide on their use!
Towards an accusation?
The feedback that the file does not contain sufficient evidence to lead to an indictment is,'s own admission source close to the investigation which started this rumor that a "simple intuition and does not warrant there will be no charge. " The most probable result of the procedure is that Kate and Gerry are accused of negligence. An opinion shared by various inspectors PJ: "They were dined, leaving their children alone, it is not a frivolous accusation, we know what happened then!" Various uncertainties continue to soar. The hypothesis of what happened that night is homicide by accident and the concealment of a corpse also endorsed by the Prosecutor as Homicide qualified and concealment of a corpse.
Good morning everyone - lovely morning here in Sunny Espana!!
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Not a lot of news at the moment so I'm 'pinching' someone's else's idea from the 3A's again - food for thought!
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Erin thread:
AMARAL BOOK READ, WHO IS THE MYSTERY WITNESS?
COULD IT BE THIS CHAP JOSE BATISTA? WITNESS GOES ON THE RUN TO PROTECT HIS EVIDENCE.
Dunno if you lot have read it on Joana Morais - the book is ready and Amaral gives an interview where he talks of a witness expected in PdeL who was a VIP to the case - GA was then removed from the investigation and the witness never turned up....my bet Tanner and O'Brien!
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HiDeHo - quoting from a link..
"The Key Witness in the missing Madeleine McCann case was in hiding last night after fleeing Portugal. The police have sworn the waiter to secrecy over his vital testamony, and know where he is. But friends say he is terified his identify is about to be revealed and that he will come under pressure from rival factions in the case. He is scared of British and Portuguese government interference in the probe - friends claim he is also worried about the private eyes hired by Kate and Gerry McCann to help find their daughter.
Madeleine's disappearance could only be the fault of her parents or a family friend it was claimed yesterday.
MCCANNS OR A FRIEND MUST BE TO BLAME
A crucial eye witness accuses the McCanns of being irresponsible parents.
The waiter who served them on that fateful night says he cannot understand why they didn't use the resort's £10 a night babysitting service. He goes on to claim that he told police "I didn't think she had been taken by an abductor". I told them it had to be one of the family or a friend. It had to be someone close.
Jose Batista 45, broke almost 6 months silence to give the most detailed account yet on the McCann's holiday and the build up to Madeleine's disappearance. Mr Batista, who served the McCanns and their friends at the tapas restaurant where they dined on the night Madeleine disappeared, said they couldn't have seen their apartment from the table as they claimed.
He also said that he was surprised that they apparently made a special arrangement with staff so that they could leave their children alone on 4 consecutive nights to eat at the tapas bar in the Ocean Club complex in PdeL with their friends dubbed the Tapas 9...
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Off for breakfast - see you all later!
Nx
Another headline designed to malign Portugal (unless you read the article).
"Holidaymaker charged £31,500 for downloading episode of favourite TV show while in Portugal"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1031630/
Holidaymaker-charged-31-500-downloading-episode-
favourite-TV-Portugal.html
Good morning everyone,
Claudia,
Belated Birthday wishes to you. Are you the same Birth sign as Sara? One of my sons was born 3 days before my Birthday, we share the same Birth sign and it is amazing we are so similar, typical Librans. My daughter was born on the same day as my friends daughter(11 years apart) and they are so similar also.
ICTOAN,
What a numpty. I know heehaw about IT, I do know to check with my provider before using any service that you pay for in the UK whilst abroad. My contract mobile stays at home and I use a pay as you go mobile abroad. As you say purely to malign. Lets see if the neglect/abandonment charges that are being reported in PT are reported in the UK. If they are how will they be Spun.
EGGMAN SPOTTED IN LONDON!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2008/07/03/pictures-the-weird-blank-faces-popping-up-across-london-89520-20629344/
The above is a link from 3 a's by big2207.
Read the article. How long will it be before the Worlds most un ... oops...reliable witness now states this is what the Abductor of Praia must have wore.
Claudia -
Belated birthday greetings for yesterday!
Feliz cumpleanos para ayer!
A nice home and family loving Cancerian!
Nancy x
Hi Viv and everyone -
I think I mentioned it during last week, but just to confirm that I am off to the UK for about a month. Won't be dragging the laptop along because I'll be loaded down with presents etc, but just to say I'll miss you all, but will try to look at one of the family's computer while there.
London for the first couple of weeks and then off to Essex and Suffolk.
I hope some positive news comes out about the case whilst I'm away, but I've a feeling it will be mid-August, when I'll be back, that things will come to a head.
Adios Amigas! Goodbye friends.
Hasta la vista!! Until next time.
Nancy xx
Zodiac
I hope the McCann's private detectives have questioned these questionable egg men.
Nancy
Have a safe trip.
Nancy,
Have a lovely holiday. Read you when you get home or if you send an e postcard.
Zodiac x
Hi all,
Nancy, I live in the county next to Suffolk. Would you like to meet up? Ask Viv for my email or Hope and I'll give you my phone number. x
Claudia, happy belated birthday. Looks like you had a great time :)xxx
Docmac, did I not mention that I put away five pints and forty fags during each feed??!! well feeding does make you thirsty...... What will you do during your six month suspension? Will you and mop part company? I hope you have made adequate provisions for mop's welfare during this difficult time for you both ;-)
Hello to you all and have a lovely day. Off to do some work now.
xx
'Docmac, did I not mention that I put away five pints and forty fags during each feed??!! well feeding does make you thirsty......'
Dylan,
PMSL! No wonder the baby was a good sleeper. You should send that tip into the Mc.... good parenting guide before it gets published.
Oooh! more statistical fireworks from the tooth man :
McCanns statistically not the most likely persons to have harmed Maddie "
It's often claimed by the uneducated that statistically the McCanns are the most likely persons to have harmed Maddie .
However , if you seperate the wheat from the chaff you find that this simply isnt true .
Statistics claim that children are most likely to be killed by parents or people known to them . In fact the parents in these figures are in the large majority not the childs biological parents , but step parents .
The number of natural parents who kill their children is relatively small .
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Mark - what is the mean, median and mode? Could you please also provide the regression equation and the R squared value for how well the figures were correlated and at which level was the nul hypothesis rejected? Stats mean nothing without these. And, also, as Tulip says, the McCanns are loving caring parents which makes them even less likely to be involved - Tulip, where was the love and care when they bug****d off out to the tapas bar and left the children behind then??
ha!
really got to go now.
xx
Zodiac, lololol!
I feel it is my place in the world to offer good parenting tips;-)
xx
Dylan,
Plier man as not a scooby about stats. His post from above just shows how intelligent he really is.
Not long until the 7th of July 08 Mark. What are the chances of any real Journalism and Reporting in the UK regarding the Family Court hearing?
Dolores, thank you! :-)
Zodiac, thank you. Yes, Sara and I share the same sign! :-)
Nancy, thank you. Have a safe trip and have fun. But try to say Hi once in a while, amiga!
Dylan, thank you. Yes, I had a great time. :-)
Dylan and Zodiac, the pretend tooth puller certainly knows that statistically Madeleine was not abducted and that statistically she's dead.
Dyl
Stop worrying about mrbluesky. He is patently drinking far too much of that very expensive champers that he claims to enjoy. Maybe he is actually mrrednose. I remember once he said his wife was immensely impressed when he bought a very expensive (obviously) car recently. My wife is impressed when I do some ironing :-)
People can quote stats all they like, but the reality is the McCanns ran away from PDL and have not been back since. What were they afraid of then?
Whats the probability of people believing their daughter was abducted,is alive possibly in Portugal and then fleeing Portugal ? Normal people the probability is nil, the Mccanns 100%. How is that for statistics?
Joe, exactly, normal people.
Doc, you know what they say about those immensely expensive cars and men, don't you? It's the law of compensation. :-)
Gonçalo Amaral interview with the Express
"Since the day that I left learned that the process would be filed"
Ex-inspector reveals some secrets of the investigation of the case Maddie. It ensures that in case there is evidence, not personal beliefs and shows that never Paulo Rebelo, his successor, contacted to talk about the case. Perguntado about what, today, say the Gerry and Kate McCann, said: "I am concerned about the girl, not with their parents." (See the video of TV Express at the end of text)
Carlos Rodrigues and Rui Gustavo Lima
12:30 | Friday, July 4, 2008
Permanent link: x
Luiz Carvalho
The case Maddie "was more political than police," said Goncalo Amaral
His name and career will be forever linked to the case Maddie?
I am not concerned about that. Always worked in a team with the concern and the objective of arriving at the discovery of truth. No police like to leave a case in half.
It happened with this research? It was the middle?
Not by my will.
It agreed with the decision of the previous director of the departed PJ that the case?
No. It is a decision unjust and dangerous. I have not been taken out of research by incompetence. I left because of the direction that research was taking. But the strategy was decided not only by me. It was everyone. It involved the police and other English Portuguese police. And what was it was investigating the death of the girl, even accidental.
After his departure, this course has been maintained?
I do not know. I am very naive and I believe that my departure from Portimão was to proceed with the investigation, because the person who was there is much more capable.
Believed that Madeleine McCann died on the night of May 3 in the apartment?
Yes That is what I believe and others. It is not because idealizámos that is so.
There is evidence supporting this thesis?
I can not enter into details of the process. Only I say this: I am sure that I and the people who worked with me have done a good job and I doubt that anyone did better. One day people will see the process, they may agree or not, but there is nothing there that would call into question my professionalism.
The direction of research, murder, was harass political power?
This case was more political than police.
Some pressed the political?
I have not been pressed, I was dismissed.
If there was a murder, where is the body?
That was what we would find out the next. On the day when I was dismissed, was to perform acts that a key witness were to Portugal. It was necessary that the PJ to pay travel, accommodation and find that it was being treated. But after the witness was never important to Portugal and was never heard.
But why? Why is it opens an exception? Police English was used by McCann to reach the PJ information not passed many of noise?
Yes And the couple have an advisor of the press is not even a figure that is expected in the criminal procedure code. Somehow we were all influenced by campaign mounted and saying that the child is alive and must be found. I am not saying that the police at the behest of English andasse McCann, but was inluenciada, as we were. The PJ should have arranged way to protect the researchers from everything else.
It is strange: it was established that the British police that the way forward was the death of the girl, there was sufficient evidence, but there seemed to be an inflection.
Yes And I was dismissed. I do not know if there is direct. I know that there were colleagues of the research that asked a sindicância the direction of the police to see if the work was poorly done. If mistakes were made.
Believes that has come to the truth?
I am convinced that we were on track and we could not get to know everything, but a large part. Now, what we believe and collect evidence can not be valued equally.
One criticism is that you are the result of months that was ahead of the research are many beliefs and scratch proof. Do you agree?
I was as coordinator of research from May 3 to 2 October. Five months. After me came from other people who are there for nine months. I am not compare, but we were professional and I am not ashamed of anything. And when the process is public will be not quite not have anything. There are indications and are on file. We have hundreds of interrogations and searches. Thousands of steps away and does not follow anything? The girl esfumou there?
The trail of death of the child continued to be followed after his departure?
I do not know. What I can say is that since the day that I left learned that the process would be filed.
In that case, one death is unclear?
Stay. And steps to take place.
Who was the decision to constitute the couple McCann as defendants?
All. And the national director was informed of all decisions.
Alípio Ribeiro agreed with the decision?
Exactly.
But came to say that the decision had been hasty.
Precipitada? Four months later? When there were concrete steps to strengthen some evidence? When you wait for the result of several examinations? And also, in our code there is the principle of ship self-incrimination. A person can not be thinking about forever as a witness and provide evidence. Certainly, there is some stigma in the status of accused, but I do not know what will be worse. They were made defendants, it was public, for simulation of crime and concealment of corpses.
Do you think made a mistake?
Cometi one. The mistake the first time. There are things that even I can not speak. But we realise that some things could have been done differently. Nobody could be shocked if we started once the investigation to see whether or not parents have had to do with the matter.
After having left the research, ever spoke to his successor, Paulo Rebelo?
No. It is an interesting question to address. If I moved away from the barbarity of a desafo, but not by incompetence, I would expect to be consulted. But that never happened.
If, as every indication, the case is closed, the public vai blame the Portuguese police. How to react?
A filing is not a declaration of innocence. A case can be closed and reopened. A possible closure in this case can even be a declaration of any inability of the police, or may be a different valuation.
What would the parents of Madeleine?
I have nothing to say. My major concern is the girl, are not parents.
Docmac,
'I remember once he said his wife was immensely impressed when he bought a very expensive (obviously) car recently. My wife is impressed when I do some ironing :-)'
LOL!
What a twot that fantasist plier person is.
A better translation from Astro and debk, posted on Joana Morais blog.
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Gonçalo Amaral in an interview to Expresso
“Since the day that I left I knew the process would be archived”
The former inspector reveals some secrets from the investigation into the Maddie case. He guarantees that the process contains evidence, not personal convictions, and he reveals that Paulo Rebelo, his successor, never contacted him to talk about the case. When asked about what he would say to Gerry and Kate McCann, today, he replied: “I’m worried about the girl, not the parents”
Your name and your career witll remain connected to the Maddie case forever?
I’m not worried about that. I have always worked in a team, with the preoccupation and the goal of reaching the discovery of the truth. No policeman likes to leave a case halfway through.
Was that what happened with this investigation? Is it left halfway through?
Not according to my will.
Have you agreed with the decision of the former director of the PJ, who removed you from the case?
No. It’s an unfair and dangerous decision. I was not removed from the investigation due to incompetence. I left because of the direction that the investigation was taking. But the strategy was not decided by me only. It was everyone. It involved the English police and other Portuguese policemen. And what was being investigated, was the little girl’s death, even an accidental one.
After you left, was that course maintained?
I don’t know. I’m very naïf and I want to believe that my exit from Portimão had the purpose of advancing the investigation, because the person that took over is much more efficient.
Do you believe that Madeleine McCann died in the apartment on the evening of the 3rd of May?
Yes. That is what I and other persons believe in. And this is not because we idealized it that way.
Is there evidence to sustain that thesis?
I can’t enter any details of the process. I will only say this: I am certain that I, and the persons who worked with me, did a good job and I doubt that anyone else could do better. Some day, people will see the process, they may agree or not, but there is nothing in there that questions my professionalism.
Was the investigation’s direction, homicide, disturbing the political power?
This case was more political than a police case.
Did any politician pressure you?
I was not pressured, I was removed.
If there was a homicide, where is the body?
That was what we were going to establish next. On the day that I was removed, I was carrying out diligences for a fundamental witness to come to Portugal. It was necessary for the PJ to pay for the trip, to arrange for lodging, and that was being taken care of. But then the important witness never came to Portugal and was never heard.
But why? Why was an exception opened? The English police was used by the McCanns to send the PJ information that often was nothing but noise?
Yes. And the fact that the couple had a press advisor, is a figure that is not even foreseen in the penal process code. In some way, we were all influenced by the campaign that was built, which said that the child is alive and must be found. I don’t say that the English police was being ordered around by the McCanns, but it was influenced, like we all were. The PJ should have found a way to protect the investigators from everything else.
That is strange: you say that it was established with the English police that the direction that should be followed was the little girl’s death, that there were enough indices, but there seems to have been an inflexion.
Yes. And I was removed. I don’t know whether there is a direct connection. I know that colleagues from the investigation have requested the police’s directory for a syndication, to see whether the work was badly done. Whether mistakes were made.
Do you believe that you reached the truth?
I am convinced that we were on the right path and that we might end up knowing everything or not, but a great part. Now, that which we have collected and which we consider to be indices, may not be valued in the same manner.
One of the criticisms is that the results from the months when you were leading the investigation are lots of convictions and zero evidence. Do you agree?
I was the coordinator of the investigation from 3 May to 2 October. Five months. After me, there came other people that have been there nine months. I am not comparing, but we were professional and I’m not ashamed of anything. And when the process is public you will see if it is true that there is nothing. There are indications and they are in the files. We did hundreds of interviews and searches.
Thousands of diligences and from that there are no results? The little girl went up in smoke?
Did the theory of the death of the child continue to be followed after your exit?
I don’t know. I can say that ever since that day I knew the process would be archived.
That being so, is there still a death to be resolved?
There is. And diligences to be completed.
Who made the decision to constitute the McCann’s arguidos?
Everyone. And the national director was informed of all the decisions.
Alípio Ribeiro agreed with the decision?
Exactly.
But then he ended up saying that the decision was hasty.
Hasty? Four months later? When there were concrete diligences that reinforced some of the indications? While we waited for results of various tests? And beyond that, in our law there exists the principal of no self-incrimination. A person can’t continue speaking forever as a witness and providing evidence (“indications”). There is certainly a stigma in the arguido status, but I don’t know what is worse. They were made arguidos, this was public, for simulating a crime and hiding a cadaver.
Do you think that you made any mistakes?
I made one. The error of the first hour. There are things about which I still can not speak. But we know that there are things which could have been done in another way. No one should be shocked if we begin, immediately, to wonder if the parents were involved.
After leaving the investigation, did you ever speak with your successor, Paulo Rebelo?
No. It is an interesting question to consider. If they removed me for the barbarity of speaking to the press, and not for incompetence, it would be normal to be consulted. But this never happened.
If, as all seems to indicate, the case is archived, the public is going to hold the Portuguese police responsible. How will you react?
Archival is not a declaration of innocence. A process can be archived and reopened. The archival of this case could be the declaration of some incapacity of the police, or it could have a different meaning.
What would you say to Madeleine’s parents?
I have nothing to say. My overriding preoccupation is with the little girl, not the parents.
Translation by Astro and Debk
Source: Expresso
Zodiac, great description! :-)
Docmac and Zodiac,
Or did he just say his wife was immense....??
xx
Dyl, you mean immense or Phil immense?
Claudia,
In an indirect way, he did kinda say that didn't he? Hmmmm.... Freudian slip me thinks ;-)
xx
Dylan, kinda! ;-)
Claudia,
This last quote:
What would the parents of Madeleine?
I have nothing to say. My major concern is the girl, are not parents.
Friday, 4 July 2008 13:22:00 o'clock BST
It is a shame that Kate and Gerry did not have the same priorities
xx
Claudia,
Philimmense! 'tis a new word in the Oxford English Dictionary don't you know ;-)
xx
Dylan, if Madeleine had ever been a priority, Madeleine would be home safe and sound.
What a lovely new word! :-)
Claudia,
Surely you can't be implying that Mark55 is lacking in the phallus department??
Maybe thats why he gains pleasure in sticking large intruments in people's mouths - lolololol!
yukk! xx
Claudia, if Madeleine had ever been a priority (or the twins) there would have been no need for the home safe and sound. The only 'safe and sound' bit would have been touchdown when the plane's wheels hit the tarmac complete with Maddie and the twins.
Makes my heart break.
Nancy, have you left for England yet? Would love to meet you. Please ask Viv for my email and I'll show you Norfolk's best bits :)
xx
Claudia,
Thanks for the translated post.
'I have nothing to say. My overriding preoccupation is with the little girl, not the parents.'
And that is how it should be, IMO.
The only one suffering or has suffered is the little neglected girl.
Dylan,
I have not copied and pasted, but LAUGH OUT LOUD. Tsk...tsk.
Dylan, I'm sorry but the mention of the pretend tooth puller and any sexual connotation in the same sentence makes any living female want to join a convent. It's more or less like imagining CM without a shirt. The best birth control method on earth.
Dylan and Zodiac, while some seem to have forgotten Madeleine a long, long time ago, others have risked their careers and personal lives not to forget her.
Dylan/Claudia,
Twot, the fantasists, OH can be seen here:
http://www.the3arguidos.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8150&start=2075
with the expensive, very expensive new vehicle he bought her. I see why she was impressed.
Joe - lol! you have a very realistic grasp of statistics!
For instance, the quote "400% more likely" when applied to SIDS and women falling asleep on the sofa could actually mean:
2 in 10,000 babies usually died from sleeping on the sofa with mum, until SIDS scare meant that MORE mums slept with baby on the sofa (100 times more mums) in which case 8 babies died whilst with mum on the sofa.You see, without the actual figures, it means nothing, 400% could be four babies as opposed to one and, in any case, the increase in mums actually taking their babies to sleep with them on the sofa perpetuates death from the same causes as if they were in their cot anyway! It is swings and round-abouts & proves jack sh*t! I am sure M55 is feeling smug anyway, the poor misguided soul! xx
Zodiac, lololol.
With such a vehicle she will soon weigh the same as a doubledecker and get fit.
Zodiac, very funny!! :)))
Claudia, sorry to have put you off your snack! Was it a very large pie or did philimmense nick it before you could eat it??
xx
Claudia,
I think he must have bought it to make up for where he lacks in the mail dept. All that jiggling.
Zodiac,
ew! :)
Dylan and Zodiac, you're making me PMSL!
Saw this from flossy07 on 3 A's
Court 20
Before MRS JUSTICE HOGG
Monday, 7 July, 2008
At 10:30 AM
IN OPEN COURT
FD07P01121 McCann
Applications/Summonses in Court as in Chambers
So not postponed, does open court mean that any one can sit in?
http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/cms/list_family.htm
Zodiac, I hope the judge allows them access to the 'leads'. I want to see the competent private detectives return Madeleine home, safe and sound in a matter of hours after being given the info...
Zodiac,
Yes, even pie woman can sit in if she can find a seat large enough!!
Claudia, one must find time to amuse one's self! :))))))
xx
Dylan, of course! :-)
I think a row is more suitable. :-)
Dylan,
LOL!
'Yes, even pie woman can sit in if she can find a seat large enough!!'
I think they might use her to block the doors and keep people out. Even though it says 'Open Court' they wont want the public in, IMO. Put her vibrating bike on static and she'll scare everyone away.
Zodiac, lolololol
Zodiac,
Are you sure the vibrating thing is a bike or does it resemble a vibrating tree trunk complete with batteries??
xx
Oh my, I must be on the wrong blog :-))))
Will pop in later!
Doc, no, you're in the right blog! :-)
Thanks Claudia, phew! What do you think of the size of MY pink club?
I'm leaving for home, BBL.
Oh Doc, I'm just speechless. Out of breath, really! ;-)
See you later!
Docmac - aw!
I promise to be clean and not mention any more batteries and logs!
xx
Claudia,
paper bag - breath in and out slowly. Does the trick ;-)
xx
Dylan,
LOL!
All this talk of logs and trees. Twot the fantasist plier person will be feeling inadequate. So here is a joke for him:
How do you know when elephants have been making love in your garden?
The grass is rolled flat and all the bin-liners are missing.
Zodiac,
I love it!!!
Heading off to my nearest nunnery.......
xx
Zodiac and Dylan, ROTFLMAO!
......just can't get into the habit....
xx
What did the elephant say to Twot the fantasist plier person?
How do you breathe through that thing?
Given my new found conscience, I am saving all of my bin bags and sending them to Africa for all of those poor elephants who already have too many younguns to look after.
I am going to call the charity:
LEPS
"Let Elephants Procreate Safely"
Just send your donations in a brown paper bag marked 'LEPS' and I will ensure your heart felt donations get to the most deserving elephant mums.
Please remember that too many elephants = not enough trees to go round.
xx
Linking to this afternoon's threads, I have just been sent an e-mail photo of a North African Naked Mole-Rat. It looks like a phallus with buck-teeth.
Shame it's not possible to post photos on this blog. Can't even copy it as an avatar.
Dylan, as long as you guarantee the donations won't pay your mortgage.
Dylan,
LOL!!
I blame you and Claudia I have done no work this afternoon to busy PMSL.
How are elephants and Twot alike?
Niether of them know anything about Dentistry.
ICTOAN,
ROTFLMAO!
Zodiac - tusk tusk! boom boom! & sorry about the work thing!
ICTOAN - email to Viv and maybe she will be kind enough to post it?
How are you? My ex is a firefighter - very brave people.
xx
Bye all,
Have a nice night.
Someone knocking at Twot's door:
Knock, knock.
Who's there?
July.
July who?
July or do you tell the tooth?
Claudia - dammit!
You have caught me out. Elephants have so far subsidised three instalments. ;-)
xx
Bye Zodiac,
It has been a pleasure. Have a good evening. xxx
Zodiac, I'm sorry, If you feel you have suffered any loss because of that, I suggest you set up a fund. :-)
Dylan, I knew it! :-) No brown envelope from me.
Bye, Zodiac.
Dylan,
Bin liners already in brown envelope marked 'LEPS' just on my way to post. I am designing a website, registering a trademark, setting up an online store. Have I forgot any other marketing ploys or agendas. Claudia dont be so cynical. Dylan only used two bin liners because she had ran out of them.
Claudia,
'Zodiac, I'm sorry, If you feel you have suffered any loss because of that, I suggest you set up a fund. :-)'
It's OK I have given up my work to concentrate on Dylan's good cause. Payments in brown envelopes will suffice. Fund getting set up as I type.
Claudia,
but everbody needs a roof over their head. It's not my fault that mine's a mansion and the brown envelopes have paid for my en-suite and walk-in-wardrobe. Do you really expect me to have to go all of the way downstairs to use the loo?? xx
Zodiac,
Please keep the money coming in. It is for a very good cause. And Claudia - I even recycle the bin bags. Takes a little imagination and Blue Peter sticky back plastic!!!
lol!
xx
Dylan, if you don't want to do downstairs because you don't want to leave your children alone, than I would contribute to your cause! :-)
Zodiac, is there any chance I could be made, let's say, manager of that little fund of yours?
So,it looks like IMO the clan are already trying to block information getting into the public domain by using Madeline as the excuse in the up coming court date on 7th July 08. Open court so it is probably not a WOC issue. I said a couple of weeks ago that I did not believe the pink clowns reasons. Will the get the gagging order or will the case be adjourned?
Claudia,
That's exactly why I won't go downstairs to the loo. Kindly cough up the dough. Bugger, I've broken one of my Jimmy Choo's heels on the 4th staircase down from my bedroom!! Now look what you've inflicted upon me. Butler??? ;-)))))
xx
Dylan, lololol
Joe,
I don't think 7/7 will go ahead now. There's really no point since all will be in the public domain very shortly. In any case, 7/7 was yet another distraction, one which they will never follow through. (IMO)
xx
Joe
So what's new.
Every time they insist on something, when it comes to the crunch the opposite view is taken.
We all remember "the lie detector' and the "willingness to return to Portugal" among others.
What is so different to the end of secrecy?
ICTOAN,
I'm not expecting: 'What really happened to our daughter' book any time in my lifetime or the next!
xx
Dylan
More likely "Spinning, Weaving and Pulling Wool Over The Eyes'.
Finally an article in English worth reading.
http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?brd=2737&pag=795&dept_id=619050&newsid=19820607&action=saved
"And the McCanns have created a huge cause celebre. Remember, these globe-trotting celebrities had an audience with the Pope, met with America's First Lady, and are seen as "ambassadors" for kidnapped children everywhere. If that's what it takes to become an international star, I'll be more than happy to remain obscure."
_____________________
I like this excerpt and the last paragraph about the disservice to Madeleine Mc Cann.
Joe, Dyl,
There is sth in GD about the 7/7
http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.com/
Sorry,
just seen Zodiac had posted the same on a previous post:-)
Doc,
Who is the one in your avatar?
is that clarriee?
Marga, no, that picture is too masculine. lololol
Yes Marga it is Clarrie chasing after a blog poster. The pink underwear has me a litle concerned, so I hope it's not me :-)))
I've been told I'm going to watch a movie now, may pop back later.
Doc, chasing a blog poster! lolololol
Doc,
our "film" will be far more interesting/revealing than yours! No need to be envious!!
Cláudia, am I right?
BBFN
Marga, certainly...
Claudia,
'Zodiac, is there any chance I could be made, let's say, manager of that little fund of yours?'
Only if I can be in control of everything.
Dylan,
I have just bought myself new Prada shoes, a Prada handbag, Prada phone,a Rolex and a new 4x4. I've got to look my best when I attend the Panda Alert conference, these brown envelopes are a Godsend. £500to me 5p to the Pandas. It is Panda Alert Campaign that we are running isn't it. Oh Sh*t it is the fooc'n nellie's how could I forget that I've got a memory like an elephant. How do I delete this ah thats the button I press.
Zodiac, can I at least, buy a new 4x4?
according to Mr.Amaral......
"The English police was used by the McCanns to send the PJ information that often was nothing but noise?"
.....................................
To me this was the very tactic used from the start, Metodo3, sightings, look here, over here, all to confuse the investigation. Its the clan who have destroyed any chance of a successful investigation. It beggars belief that they would constantly thwart the PJ looking for their child. Reading the Expresso interview with Mr Amaral one gets the pessimistic feeling that the investigation was a foregone conclusion with political influence as he admits. I sincerely hope that the facts come out and that the clan do not succeed in injunctions and restraining orders to stop the truth. Its ironic that these 2 had nothing to hide now it appears are terrified of the facts coming to light.
Get the Q7 Claudia, it's a brute, just like Clarrie ;-)
Has anyone here read the McCann case is still on for Monday? 10.30am at the High Court in London. IN OPEN COURT.
Seems there is nobody about. I'm off to watch another movie then.
Doc
The Press reports will still be biased in favour of the wonder couple.
Doc, yes, I read that! :-)
Sorry guys, had a few things to do!
Zodiac,
That is very, very naughty! How many times do I have to tell you:
5p to you, £500 to the elephants. Now go and sort out your brwon envelopes!
PS. Don't use that ivory letter knife, the elephants might get upset!
xx
Off for some telly time.
BBL xx
Gonçalo Amaral and Madeleine's case: “There was more politics than police”
The former Polícia Judiciária investigator criticized the PJ director and the Justice minister, on a interview, tonight, with TVI, a Portuguese channel. Asked if he believed that Madeleine was dead, Gonçalo Amaral said that he was “convinced” she was dead “based on the evidence collected”. When the journalist asked: “Was she killed, there (in the apartment)?”, the former PJ inspector said: “She died there”. About Madeleine's parents being named as formal suspects, Amaral spoke about “strong evidence” as the base for the decision and referred that “there was a common understanding”, between Portuguese and British police officers involved in the investigation, about the fact that Madeleine was dead.
“There was evidence, about two different crimes – which were referred by the defence lawyer, Pinto de Abreu, in a public statement – and it was hiding a body and a criminal simulation. That was the situation, when I left the investigation,” Mr. Amaral said. The former PJ inspector, who has a Law Degree from Lisbon University, mentioned the fact that “these kind of cases of disappearance, frequently bring with it other crimes, sometimes fake statements or physical abuse”.
(to be continued)
http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.com/
See you later, Dylan.
Joe,
I think they are terrified of info getting into the public domain, hence the need to get their hands on the files. They might just be able to silence the UK/Media (their lapdogs,IMO) however the World is a big place, a place they cannot dominate althought they possibly think they can,IMO. Lets see what transpires from Mondays Court hearing.
Claudia,
Your 22.06pm post very interesting.
BBFN
Zodiac, thanks. I also think it's very interesting. :-)
See you later!
Hi Zodiac,
Yes absolutely right. It is awful to contemplate if what Mr amaral states is true and the British police feel as the PJ do that Madeline died in the apartment, yet the clan carry on with not a bother and the likes of Mitchell and the press demanding they be cleared now. Why were they never questioned since Sept 2007 for the record, even if they refused to answer? Its like they are protected.
Joe, it makes sense that the British police officers who were in the Algarve at the time also believe Madeleine is dead. Don't forget that they were the ones who suggested the sniffer dogs and they were there when the sniffer dogs detected the scent of death. Confronted with that, what would the British Police officers think?
Hiya Hun
Only just arrived and have only read your above post, but the British Police officers would obviously think just the same as I do, and many more besides:-)))))
This is why I could never understand the campaign against the Portuguese Police, the British Police were also there from the outset and brought the dogs over, as you say. UK, just like Portugal, is most certainly not a country that enables killers to evade justice. The McCanns are in really serious trouble and they know it!
Viv x
Anonymous (who else) said
"Notdoc knows nothing, he is not a doc, he practices first aid, his real job is teaching others first aid, he is something like a St John's ambulance or Red Cross volunteer."
Are you stalking my daughter, Notevenadocyet? But as for me and my major source of income you are so close and yet so far! lolol!! Just a clue, read any good books lately? Oh dear, one has to laugh.
And they're back onto when I drew the analogy that DNA does not just fall out of us like dandruff falls from our heads. Response? - dandruff DOES contain DNA, what a faker! Oh sweet Lrod.
Hiya Joe
The McCanns are highly manipulative and devious and wqill leave no stone unturned in seeking to refute evidence against them, no matter by what foul means they use to do so. When police officers question suspects it inevitably involves them revealing to the suspects and their solicitors some or all of the evidence against them. For this reason, it would be counter-productive to interview the McCanns again whilst they build a case against them. There is no way they are going to confess and the police know that. The McCanns are absolutely desperate to know what evidence the police have against them, so that they can seek to counter this, by refusing to reveal it to them the police are in a position of strength and make them weak, desperate and vulnerable. Very good tactics. It is just like playing a game of poker, you must not reveal your hand. The more fearful the McCanns become, the more mistakes they will keep making.
Viv x
Doc, read books? You mean those objects with plenty of letters, one following the other, sentences, paragraphs, texts and very few pictures? Are you crazy, man? With Big brother on? ;-)
Viv, :-))))))
No Claudia, I'm talking about 'that' book with lots of pictures actually, you know the one I mean. But I'm sure they'd have trouble understanding that too.
Thanks for the article concerning Goncalo's interview. I find it interesting that he not only confirms Portuguese and British Officers believe Madeleine died in the apartment but clearly alludes to other offences - fake statements i.e. perverting the course of justice by making claims about a false abduction. He also refers to physical abuse. Neighbours heard Kate McCann as well as Madeleine and we have all seen the bruises.
Viv x
Doc, I agree. :-)
Viv, Gonçalo was speaking in general terms about that type of crimes. But only for now because the secrevcy is still not over!;-) But I agree. It's very interesting...
Hi viv,
It makes one wonder now how they will actually deal with Mr.Amaral's information allied with any facts that will be revealed when the secrecy is over? Especially if they cannot easily explain away some of them. If they could they would not have run out of PT and refused to answer questions.
Hiya Claudia
In some respects it is rather sad for those people who have clung on to some hope that little Madeleine could still be alive, he confirms beyond any doubt that she died. For myself I have long since accepted this but it is still terribly sad and only increases the wickedness of her parents in still seeking to insist she may be alive.
Viv x
Hiya Joe
I would not like to hazard a guess as to how the McCanns are going to continue to protest their innocence in the light of Goncalo Amaral's comments, let alone further revelations. After all, they will not be sueing him and that just says it all!
Viv x
Viv, like you, I lost all hope long ago. The McCanns know very well that the PJ officers think Madeleine is dead. They were informed about the findings of the dogs during questioning. Even if the phantom abductor existed, they know full well that Madeleine would be most likely dead. The insistency that she is (1) alive and (2) well fits in perfectly with their propaganda.
Viv,
I agree, if they know she is dead it is beyond wicked to insist she is alive. Saying nothing would be better
Viv, something tells me that Gonçalo would love for them to sue, just like Paulo Pereira Cristóvão also challenged them. Wouldn't it be a great way to catch them inside a courtroom? That's exactly why in my opinion it will never happen.
Did Gerry McCann not realise that saying, among many other things, advertising her eye defect was a "good marketing tool" might make him sound like the antithesis of a loving parent. His thinking is so disordered he does not have the insight to understand how others see him, or hear him!
Viv x
Viv, i think he can't help it.
Hiya Claudia
Goncalo is far too clever to risk being sued! He has timed his revelations to come out just before the file is released, he says both Portuguese and British Police officers believe Madeleine died in that apartment, the file will confirm that is the truth and so there is nothing they could possibly sue him for!
They are finished!
Viv x
Hiya Claudia
He is personality disordered rather than insane and so knows what he is doing is wrong but still, it could be argued he cannot help being the way that he is.
Viv x
There is clearly a lot of uncomfortable stuff in the PJ files for the clan and there will be a few sleepless nights for a while IMO. The clan effectively halted Mr. Amarals career using the gutter press and media. I am glad that he has now returned to deliver his facts on the case of which he has first hand information which even they wil not be able to dispute and he will no doubt even have the proof.
For those who wish a bit more of insight into tonight's interview with Gonçalo Amaral on Portuguese TV.
http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.com/2008/07/gonalo-amaral-and-madeleines-case-there.html
Interview
Thanks very much for that Hun
I see the McCann's application is still listed for Monday and most unusually in a family case in open court which means the press should be able to report the contents, so look forward to that!
I wonder if Mrs Justice Hogg though public interest was so great it should be held in open court - we will have to wait and see!
viv x
Thank you, Claudia :)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is apost by a poster that calls itself Dixoncox on the 3 A's, the bottom line is this imbecile's signature!
is in't it a worry when people talk about a subject they obviously no absolutely nothing about and get the three names wrong?
What kind of idiots do they have posting on there?
______________________________________________________________________
LMAO!! I'm not sure I do and I wroted it! LOL!
_________________
Could have been worse, we could have lost Shane and Emily as well as Margaret
You thick b*****d, I believe the names you want are.
Sean, Amelie and MADELEINE.
(And the give imbeciles like this the vote!)
02 July 2008 22:29
Oh dear, is thi Sian making apost or is in't it? Whoever it was, DixonCox's sig flew way above it's head. Mental note to theposter: need to read more, specifically about Gerry's problems recalling his dead child's name.
Viv and Southerncross, you're welcome. It was just a link! :-)
Doc, it's ironic, isn't it?
Fcuk it, SC. I was Ironside earlier in the week, now I suppose I'll have to be you again! Groete, hoor!
Ironic Claudia? It's ironit you fool. Who do's you laundry then?
Yep, I guess we'll keep them busy with the multiple personalities paranoia- thingy, doc. Oh well,small things amuse small minds!
If they only knew;)
Doc, and you haven't heard the latest! lolol Apparently Paulo Reis and I are the same person! lololololol
SC hoeveel dae nog oor tot jy in jou tuisland kom besoek?
Paulo, how's it hanging?
Doc, up until now, I never thought of it as hanging! ;-)
Oh, you've got a small one like Mark then. Sort of points straight forward does it?
Doc, ek dink dis 145 dae! Kan nie wag
Had a very busy day(working), hope you all have a lovely weekend.Take care and lekker slaap x
"Oh, you've got a small one like Mark then. Sort of points straight forward does it?"
ROTFLMAO
lolololololololololololololol
SC I hope those 145 pass quickly for you. Dieselfde vir jou en die gesin.
Boa Noite all!
Claudia Hun you know me and you are "thick", they said so:-))))))
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Noite Viv
Claudai at school we used to call them acorns.
Viv, well they also believe eggman exists! lolololol
Boa noite. Dorme bem!
Doc, I'm not Claudai. I'm Paolo! ;-)
I'm starting to believe it now. Because someone said so.
Of course, Doc. ;-)
More news on the final report submitted by the PJ in tomorrow's edition of Correio da Manhã.
I'll have you know Paolo, there is a doctor on the 3A who was trolled this evening to the extent that she changed her screen name. And she is genuine too. I said as much to the troll who then took a big pop at me too. Name starts with t and ends with s (or l if you are not her mate).
Doc, really? I don't read the 3A. Any more details? :-)
Read my book.
Doc, lololol
Think I'm going to bed. Getting sleepy.
Boa noite, amigo.
xxxx
Boa noite amigo.
You b*****d! lolol
P.S:I predict that the files will confirm the the neighbour did hear Madeleine cry the night before for about an hour...
Hi all,
I think it is very telling that GA is prepared to stick his neck out in advance of the files being open to all.
Docmac, I think I have had my fill of Mark's manhood ;-) Just realised how that must look!!! lol!
Zodiac, how are your Pradas?
Off to bed. Goodnight all & sleep well.
xx
Goodnight Dylan and all.
Famous faces pick their person of the year
Last Updated: 2:00AM GMT 30/12/2007.........
Liz Hunt, Sunday Telegraph columnist
"Kate McCann. Madeleine’s mother suffers daily the torture of knowing she should have been there for her child and has endured the agony of being implicated in her death. Yet she has never been less than dignified, and her focus on finding her daughter has not wavered."
Yikes!!
Doc, did anyone choose Ian Huntley?
Nytol, off for a Valium.
Nope.
Good. Dorme bem, Doc.
While
Claudia's
not
watching
I'll
sneak
in
and
get
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