31 May 2008

MURDER CASE THE MCCANNS WOULD NOW LIKE TO FORGET

Truth and Justice Superdogs Eddie and Keela who just do not tell lies.. Superdog, Keela
Superdog, Eddie x

Gerry does not use his phone much on holiday..apparently, is that a watch I can see?


Another shot of gorgeous truth and justice Superdog, Eddie x









Hi All, Bath theory referred me to the case of Eugene Zapata who murdered his wife over 30 years ago but has recently received 5 years (three to serve) on a plea deal rather than face a second trial for murder. The prosecution case largely consisted of circumstantial evidence given the body could not be recovered. Cadaver dogs provided the break through in the police case in 2004 but the reason the jury could not reach a verdict is because the judge ruled the dog evidence unreliable and so they just did not know about it, it was kept from them. This has extraordinary similarities to the McCann case where the police were struggling to gain evidence until Eddie and Keela were brought over from the UK and made their amazing findings.








What is even more extraordinary is this is the very same case that the McCanns lawyers wanted to use in their defence, at the stage where the judge had ruled the dog evidence inadmissible. As we know, McCann supporters have looked to other murder cases and sought to suggest these people were actually innocent in some bizarre attempt to excuse the McCanns. Demonstrating that justice prevails this man has now confessed anyway rather than face a second trial and the dogs have of course proved to be correct. This must have been a truly devastating blow for Kate and Gerry McCann, who just like Zapata, wanted the case "shelved".








It is very sad that Zapata's children were divided over this, his son argued for the defence and his daughter argued for the prosecution. She now says she forgives her father, her mum has truth and justice and she can start to grieve. I am absolutely certain little Madeleine McCann will not have to wait for 30 years for justice and truth or for the world, friends and relatives to know the truth. Kate and Gerry have a choice, face the truth and accept what you did or face a much bigger sentence.








In the end Zapata realised he had no choice. He was an obsessive man, I have read other reports where he kept a "stalker's diary" about his wife, even detailing her menstrual periods and what oral contraception she was on, searching her trash etc, following the break up. The ruling that he could only be in the home for just two hours to see the children clearly indicates he was not safe. Stalkers are known to be highly dangerous people. Domestic violence statistics confirm that when women try to get rid of an abusive partner who then starts to stalk them, these are generally the partners who finish up actually being killed and they get killed following separation because the partner has lost the control he needs to exert. In a furious rage this man made absolutely certain no one else was going to have his wife.








What follows below are extracts from various press reports.












JUSTICE FOR MADDIE X




















Jeanette "Jean" Zapata sent her two teenage daughters and 6-year-old son to school shortly after 8 a.m. Oct. 11, 1976. They last saw her as she sat at the kitchen table in their East Side home near La Follette High School wearing blue corduroys and a striped top.
The 36-year-old flight instructor - who was divorcing her husband - was never heard from again.
According to a search warrant executed by police in August but kept sealed until Thursday morning, dogs trained to detect human remains reacted to two locations connected to Eugene Zapata - a crawl space in the couple's former home and a storage locker in Sun Prairie.
Two days after Jeanette Zapata's children saw her for the last time, Ivan Norton, an accountant at Frickleton School of Aeronautics, reported her missing because she hadn't come to work.
"If she told you to make an appointment at a certain time, she was there ahead of schedule to make sure it all went right," Norton, 69, said Thursday. "She was very nice and very prompt and that was the whole thing that was concerning us. She was like a time clock."
Immediately after she disappeared, her purse and other belongings, including her new car, were found at the home, but a .30-06 rifle was missing.
Investigators said in the search warrant:
Officers have questioned Eugene Zapata several times over the past 30 years and he sometimes provided contradictory statements.
Zapata told police he argued with his wife over visitation rights to their children a few days before she disappeared. The day she vanished, they met with the La Follette High School principal to discuss their oldest daughter. One time he told police he called the morning of Oct. 11 to cancel the meeting. On another occasion, he said he went to the house at 9 a.m. to pick her up.
Jean Zapata had obtained a court order that restricted his time with the children in the home to two hours on Saturday mornings.
His employment records at the state Department of Transportation indicate he worked from 7:45 to 8:45 a.m. the day she disappeared, was off work the following day, Oct. 12, and then came in to work at 12:30 p.m. Oct. 13.
He told police he took Oct. 12 off to care for his children at home, but investigators verified the children were at school.
Zapata did not respond to messages from the State Journal asking for an interview. In a 1987 State Journal article, he said he believed his former wife ran away.
"It may have been just the pressure of it because I filed for custody of the kids," Zapata said then. "She was a very strong-willed person. If she made up her mind that she wanted to disappear, she could do it."
Investigators suspected Zapata, but lacking leads they had shelved the case.
It was reactivated a year ago
after one of Jean Zapata's childhood friends called asking about its status, Snyder said.
New detection techniques, including "cadaver dogs" that can find faint odors of human remains, pushed the investigation forward.
According to court documents, dogs twice signaled that they had found the scent of human remains in an unused basement crawl space at the Zapatas' former home on Indian Trace, and a human hair was excavated. Police will not say whether test results indicate that it belonged to Jean Zapata.
Eugene Zapata sold the house in 1997. In 2001, he moved to Nevada. He rented a storage facility in Sun Prairie that year and listed its contents as "boxes, mixture of son's and parent's stuff."
According to the search warrant:
On April 13, 2005, police left a message for Eugene Zapata with his wife in Nevada. The next day, the locker's key was returned to U-Store Mini Storage in Sun Prairie. The empty locker remained locked until Aug. 10 and 11 when police opened it.
Dogs detected the scent of decomposing or decomposed human remains inside and around the locker, the search warrant indicates. That prompted a search of four acres in rural Juneau County owned by Zapata since 1978.













Eugene Zapata was arrested for allegedly murdering his wife Jean Zapata, who disappeared from their East Side Madison home 30 years ago.
The investigation into what happened Jean Zapata was dormant for years. The 36-year-old Madison woman and mother of three disappeared in 1976, but the case only returned to the spotlight in December 2004.





Here is a timeline in the investigation:









December 2004: Cadaver Dogs Search Former Home
Two cadaver dogs searching the basement of Jean Zapata's former home and indicated hits of human remains. A human hair was taken from the site, police said.





August 2005: Cadaver Dogs Search Storage Locker
Two cadaver dogs separately indicated hits of decomposing human remains at a Sun Prairie storage locker that Eugene Zapata had rented.





August 2005: Cadaver Dogs Search Juneau County Lot
Police also used cadaver dogs to search a 4-acre lot owned by Eugene Zapata in Juneau County
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December 2005: Police Call Case "Foul Play"
Madison police officially called the case "foul play" and named Eugene Zapata their one and only suspect.





February 2006: Eugene Zapata Denies Connection To Wife's Disappearance
In a telephone interview with WISC-TV from Henderson, Nev., Eugene Zapata denied any connection to his wife's disappearance.





March 2006: Police Search Juneau County Landfill
Madison police conducted a week-long search of the Juneau County land-fill near Mauston. They said that they are searching for Jean Zapata's remains and containers that they believe belonged to Eugene Zapata.





August 2006: Eugene Zapata Arrested For Murder








He had faced first-degree murder charges. A jury deadlocked on a verdict, and a second trial was scheduled. If convicted on that charge, Zapata would have faced life in prison.
A second trial seemed less likely after reports surfaced earlier this month that a plea deal had been struck.
As part of the agreement with prosecutors, Zapata had to tell authorities how he killed his wife and where her body was hidden, WISC-TV reported.
During Monday's proceedings, Dane County chief prosecutor Bob Kaiser asked the court to accept an amended charge of homicide by reckless conduct. Kaiser earlier told the court that the deal with Zapata includes a statement to police about why Zapata went to her house, how and why he killed her and what he did with her.
Kaiser said that Zapata confessed to police and that he believes Zapata's statement will be truthful and complete.








The grim facts he finally admitted when faced with a second murder trial
Prosecutors said that Zapata told police that he went to his wife's house in 1976, had an argument and "snapped." He told them that he grabbed a metal draftman's tool and hit her in the head multiple times. He said that she then dropped to ground and he strangled her. He apparently told investigators that he "strangled Jeanette Zapata manually until his hands hurt." He also wrapped a cord around her neck.








Body dumped in numerous places over 24 years as police continued to probe
Zapata said that he wrapped her body in a tent and drove it to an area near Highway 151 and Reiner Road, where he hid it in some underbrush. He transferred her remains a short time later to some Juneau County land that he owed. There, he buried her body -- which remained there for 24 years -- before moving her remains to a Sun Prairie storage locker, where it was eventually cut into pieces and later disposed of at a Mauston landfill. He moved the body from the Juneau County because he planned to sell the land. Blanchard said because Jeanette Zapata's body was dumped in numerous Dumpsters at the landfill, there is no way to recover her remains.








Truth and Justice..a chance to grieve..Mum deserved the truth
Linda Zapata, the youngest of Eugene and Jeanette Zapata's three children, gave a statement in court. She said that she was torn over testifying against her father earlier, but she's glad that he agreed to the plea deal. She said his confession is "a gift."
"By confessing to Mom's murder, you have given me and others a precious gift, a chance to grieve, mourn and heal," she said. "Mom deserved no less than that Mom deserved the truth about what really happened that morning, and I thank you for finally giving her that."
She added that she still loves her father and forgives him, although she doesn't condone what he did.








No comment from 69 year old Zapata, over his lies for 30 years where he denied the murder of his wife, as he is led away for three years in custody following a plea deal








Eugene Zapata declined comment in the court. He was later taken away in handcuffs after his sentence was imposed.
Kaiser said that he thinks the agreement is the best possible option for "truth and justice." Likewise, Blanchard called the resolution to this case a huge achievement for justice.

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ratonthebeam said...

have you all ever seen the film Little Miss Sunshine?!

bath theory said...

Ecolab

Out of respect for this chap and the fact I was literally rolling around in hysterics I have uploaded a suitable picture to him.

The plant has turned into a motorbike !!

Unknown said...

Ecolab

All 7 of them are hiding a horrible secret. They owe it to Madeleine to tell the truth.

Unknown said...

Hi ROB
I have watched the movie, although a long time ago.

ta ra said...

Bianca,
Children deserve protection. Agreed. Like you, I have my agreements and disagreements with 'pros', and 'antis', if only because those terms are black and white; life is grey; open to the great unknown. Yet this:

There is no evidence of an abduction. None.

Gerry says: 'Find the body and prove we killed her.'

I say: 'Find your daughter, and prove she is alive.'

The McCanns have received unprecedented, preferential treatment from the UK Government, contrary to the warnings given by civil servants - the servants of the UK taxpayer; servants who are more experienced in law, diplomacy and the wickedness of nationals than mere politicians, succumbing to vote buying, media manipulation, and self preservation.

Just my opinion. Bianca: chuck a shrimp on the barbie for me ;-). Enjoy your beautiful Oz.
All things must pass, even our passions about provincial 'whinging Poms'. Tsk. No matter. Child protection is the bigger, lasting campaign. You serve it well, imo. Go girl! Just do it, without fear or favour. Join a child protection organisation in OZ; you would be an influential campaigner; a lovely addition to the team, I think.
x
leigh

docmac said...

Ecolab

Thanks for the story of the guy with his dead dad on the bike! I used to race motorbikes but i have not been on one for about 8 years following a serious crash and a fractured hip. It's not that I don't want to, it's just too painful for me to get on.

That story has convinced me to give that a go when it is my turn to shuffle off this mortal coil! Any or all of my sons would risk arrest to give me the 'pleasure' for sure.


Viv, I agree entirely with you about Kate's subservience.

ta ra said...

ROTB,
How funny you mention 'Little Miss Sunshine'. My daughter was telling me about it today; it's very dark humour, yes? We laughed, and laughed.

BTW: I hope you use your expertise to sort out the cyberspace trolls. Come down hard. I would.Just my opinion.

bath theory said...

Docmac
Indeed this piccie is of me 14 yrs ago in Copenhagen but not been on one for ages and ages.Actually they are far too dangerous.

Leigh
You have written it in a nutshell -great words.

...The McCanns have received unprecedented, preferential treatment from the UK Government, contrary to the warnings given by civil servants - the servants of the UK taxpayer; servants who are more experienced in law, diplomacy and the wickedness of nationals than mere politicians, succumbing to vote buying, media manipulation, and self preservation...

Ecolab- I am still laughing but must go now. I feel the last 48 hrs have been significant in this case. The tide has turned.

ta ra said...

ROTB,
...although I would need others to use their expertise on my behalf. Am a pathetic Luddite.
Good luck.
Life's a team effort, I think.

Unknown said...

Hiya Doc and thanks, she clearly is subservient to Gerry and has been conditioned to become that way. It it all the experience and training in domestic violence, I think, that makes that so obvious to me.

He can continue to function in his role but she no longer has the ability to do that, even if she could get a job, which is obviously open to doubt.

ta ra said...

Ta, BT.

This has been a significant week, to be sure. Glad you noticed; vindication of legitimate inquiry by you, and so many others who refused to be conned by PR pap.

Have fun with your family; a treasure beyond measure.
x
leigh

Cláudia said...

Hello, guys.
I have to say that at first I thought that banning Bianca was too harsh. Until I read Ana's post. The fact that Bianca went to ST's shit hole right away, made it crystal clear. Viv, your prediction skills are spot on.

As for not agreeing with Viv, that is pathetic. Viv knows exactly what I believe. It never crossed my mind that Madeleine was sexually abused, beaten up or tortured in any way. I don't think that Kate was a victim of domestic violence, but if she was/is, I don't give a damn. I certainly know that Madeleine wasn't loved like she deserved. If she was, she and her twin brother and sister would have NEVER, I repeat NEVER been left alone.
And I don't think the police ever suspected of murder. In fact, this is not just a personal opinion. But let's leave it at that.

ratonthebeam said...

Actually I am hopeless with servers. But the guy who is working with it is the best in the business, he will soon have us up and running again, of that I have no doubts!

In Little Miss Sunshine there is a very funny scene where the family "abduct" the corpse of their dead dad from the hospital and take it to a beauty pageant in an ailing old VW bus. It really is very, very dark but very, very funny.

And totally takes the p*ss out of those gawdawful child beauty pageants, a la Jonbenet Ramsay.

docmac said...

BT

Those GPZs were hooligan tools, lovely stuff. I was an Aprilia man. Raced a Mille 1000 V-Twin and had a road legal one too. I miss them hey.

Goodnight to you.

Unknown said...

Hiya darling

It obviously escaped her attention that the two people running this blog have some pretty fundamentally different views! but where we obviously meet is we support the police and justice for little Madeleine, we do not seek to peddle McCann propaganda, we vehemently oppose it and make no apologies for that!



She has gone back where she belongs.

Luv ya hun x

Cláudia said...

Viv, the funny thing is that we would have disagreed on kicking her out if she hadn't gone to the place where she was slagged off and called the most terrible things. Ignore my last e-mail! ;-)

Unknown said...

Do not worry about it Hun x

ratonthebeam said...

It is a shame, I always liked Bianca, but why did she immediately run off to Trollville slagging us off? I just don't understand that, and actually feel quite hurt :(

Cláudia said...

Always learning, darling. Always learning!

ta ra said...

ROTB,
!!! My daughter told me about that scene, almost verbatim (I think because she mimicked every character, and line). Hilarious. And the scenes about the grandfather, kicked out of the old people's home because he was caught taking heroine; the gay suicidal Uncle; the mother who only serves up KFC.

What a laugh, and as you say, it's dark humour, taking the p*ss out of adults. Little Miss Sunshine is just that because she survives her gruesome, egotistical family, not their plans to make her a pageant princess. Brilliant.

P.S.I hope the computer guy sorts it.

ratonthebeam said...

Yeah - I guess - did we ever establish the truth about Gina BTW?

Cláudia said...

Hey, Rat. Well, I can't say I'm hurt. People I don't know do not have the power of hurting me. But if she wanted to show the people who suspected her to be wrong, she screwed up. Big time.

ta ra said...

ROTB,
Maybe people sometimes act in haste; hurt pride and feelings etc...
I dunno. There's no cure for the human condition. I do know that ;-)

Unknown said...

Gina and Bianca are the same person and she is a little brighter than she makes out.

She intended to cause trouble and upset, do not let it bother you.

ratonthebeam said...

Yeah. I don't know how people have the energy or inclination to play both ends....

ta ra said...

And by the way, where's 'Ellie'?

The world weird web. What an eye opener!

ta ra said...

OMG. Gina and Bianca are the same person?!!!!!
Crikey.

ratonthebeam said...

You are joking!!! ????

Unknown said...

Hey Leigh
One person with 2 id's? What on earth for?

Ana said...

I liked Bianca; I always read her in the DX days and love it!
My point is, why she has the necessity to be rude with Viv!?
Everyone on here can agreee or disagree , we all have our views/opinions about this case; she wants to believe that there was an abduction that is fine to me! I really don’t believe in that!
Only that, she can not insult us in the way she have done today, if my memory is correct, we have never done that to her!
Have we ever told her something like this?


by Rosiepops Today at 5:15 pm

Is Bianca for real? If Bianca's parents are as bad as their daughter, I bet this couple could not get away fast enough!

I wonder if a computer was on and perhaps they read some of their host's daughter's rantings about Kate and Gerry somewhere and decided to get away from the mad people? I bet they did not want to go and were there under sufferance anyway.

Bianca you do talk a lot of twaddle and by the way Kate would have been around 35 when she had Madeleine, I would hardly call that old! get a life you moronic woman.


Go, Rosie, go..
by calcite51 Today at 5:21 pm
Great response to Bianca's ramblings - I agree if the parents were anything like their daughter Bianca - I'd be in a hurry to leave that house, too.


Na Sass
by Chinadoll Today at 8:46 pm
Bianca should set up a blog with Dope, her male equivalent mouthpiece.

It would be the busiest blog going, with just the two of them posting




The answer is: NO!!!


Gina & Bianca are the same person?!!!

mandarinn said...

Good evening all
I read morwe than postbut, since the dx times i got a sep back with gina,too much words, too much justification about herself ... something sound wrong to me.

Unknown said...

I also think 2345 is trying to rejoin us :-)))

So watch this space:-)))))

ta ra said...

Hey Mariana,

Why would one person have 2 IDs? Hmmm. I see what you mean, however, we have seen it happen in the UK, particularly with the McCann story. Weird, but true.

Here, newspapers are experimenting with their online access, and content. Even seasoned Editors have been shocked at the tactics adopted by certain vested interests. It's been a real eye opener.

Personally, I am surprised to read that Gina and Bianca are the same person. I had my suspicions about someone arriving here with the name 'Ellie'. Quite cute that, don't you think? 'Ellie'; El Lie (reference to the Spanish Metodo3), and no word from 'Ellie' since her name was questioned, then s/he was invited to comment, not just make personal comments/accusations.

The world weird web. By the way, the trial will be interesting ;-).

ta ra said...

Mandarinn,
I think your instinct was right. I noticed that too, right back to Daily Express days. I think 'Gina' was the soft sell, although she was peddling the same product.

Ana said...

Viv,Really?
At least 2345 have the same views from the very beginning; she doesn’t changes her views with the wind !
We all know how she thinks!:)

Unknown said...

Leigh
Thanks for explaining. So its Gina Bianca and Ellie. Bloody hell. lol.
I am sorry, I know it is not funny and Viv and Claudia cannot be amused with all this going around.
The trial will be most interesting and hope to be in Portugal to watch it closely.

Cláudia said...

Hello, Portuguese ladies!
Did you watch the Portuguese emigrants in Switzerland welcoming our National Team? That's what I call Tuga power! :-)

ta ra said...

Hiya Viv,
It's your blog, and you are right to set the rules, I think. However, I liked 2345s dogged (!) pursuit of one line: forensic evidence was accumulated, communicated, and stifled because of media manipulation, not because of inherent flaws.

Yes, 2345 became quite strident at times (possibly due to frustration).

I get strident at times, and am grateful for colleagues who temper my views, as I do theirs, if necessary.

Cláudia said...

Mariana, web happenings cannot interfere with my humour. As I said to Viv very recently, life is a lot better if you smile and laugh. And I smile and laugh a lot. Fortunately, I have every reason to do it! :-)

Unknown said...

Ana

Sometimes it is difficult for me to offer too much comment but people have latched on to the McCann case for a variety of different reasons, because they have a cause they wish to pursue but that cause, sadly has nothing to do with Madeleine McCann.

It can be the cause of the BNP (to promote a generalised hatred of "foreigners"/the superiority and sovereinty of all things British) or right wing factions wishing to undermine Brown. Of course it can also be the cause of the two prime suspects, Kate and Gerry McCann. We need to stay alert to that, I think.

One person who has not sought to manipulate the media is Robert Murat.

Unknown said...

Hiya Claudia

Smiling and laughing a lot is very important, we certainly agree on that. I was cracking up late last night in the company of you and Doc and this is how these people should be treated ... as a source of some excellant good humour, because it would be no use trying to take them seriously.

Luv Viv x

Ana said...

Hello Cláudia,
How are you Hun?
Yes I saw it! Beautiful!
They (the players) have all what they need to win! They will not miss our emigrants support!
Go Portugal!:)

mandarinn said...

Hi Claudia our boys will feel like at home i'm sure .

Unknown said...

Hi Leigh

I became extremely worried about the health of 2345 due to the content of emails she was sending me and asked her to telephone me but she did not take up the offer.

I do hope she is feeling a lot better now. This case can be very unhealthy for some people due to the issues it raises.


Viv x

Ana said...

You are right Viv, we must stay alert!
Poor Robert Murat, with his life destroyed just for helping the wonder couple! So sad!

Unknown said...

Hi Viv
Are you going to be there for the trial?

Claudia
I would love to see you if you are there during the trial.

Is there anyone else thinking of going?

ta ra said...

Hi Viv,
Point taken. Kind of you to care.

Buenos noches, chica. Tomorrow is another day. Monday. Arrgghhh!

xo
leigh

Y boa noite Portugal. G'day Mariana!

Unknown said...

Hiya Mariana

I would certainly not rule it out!

Viv x

Ana said...

Bye Leigh darling!
From Portugal with love:Goodnight!:)

Cláudia said...

Viv, exactly. Sometimes people do not appreciate the good things in their lifes and only remember about them when they are down. I try to appreciate and thank the fact that my life is great.

For anyone who has no idea what we, Portuguese gals, are talking about, our football national team left today to Switzerland, where Euro 2008 will take place. Between 10 to 15 thousand Portuguese emigrants were out on the streets welcoming them.

Ana said...

Hi Mariana,

I don’t think it will be a public trial, but if it will, I will make all that I can to go!That is for sure!

Cláudia said...

Bye, Leigh.

Mariana, I don't know if there will be a trial. And I don't know where I'll be if there is a trial. However, if there is one and if I'm alive and well, one way or another I'll be paying a lot of attention.
Anyway, I think that soon we will be through a bumpy ride. Some people will think that's it, game's over. That won't be the case.

Unknown said...

Bye Leigh

and good to hear from you as ever.

Luv Viv x

Unknown said...

Anyone who has the time please take a look.

The Shields Gazette site run a poll with the question:

"Are Portuguese police right to consider charging the McCanns with child neglect?"

Result
Yes: 92 per cent
No: 8 per cent

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id79.html

Unknown said...

Hi Mariana

I was already aware of that poll.

It is a wonderful endorsement of the Portuguese Police and about time too!

Luv Viv x

Unknown said...

Ana
What do you mean, "not a public trial".
I would think they would have to open it to the world, to make sure the McCann's do not scream "unfair trial" afterwards.

Viv
Isn't it the way it should be done?

Unknown said...

Viv

Is this the kind of the support they are counting on?
CM said that "people wrote the McCann's after the 1 year shows, to say how unfair they had been with them..." or something to that effect.
They have no support whatsoever.
Let him spin this now.

Unknown said...

Hiya Mariana

I certainly agree it is a fundamental principle of a criminal trial that it is open to the public and open to scrutiny so that a fair trial can be guaranteed. I would be very concerned if we heard this was to be dealt with behind closed doors and cannot see this being at all likely: Article 6 European Convention Human Rights.

Unknown said...

Good on you Viv

This is the way it should be done.
I am really glad to know you.

docmac said...

3As is not a goner. Sorry pros.

Unknown said...

Docmac

Joana Morais says the 3 Arguidos forum is changing administrators and servers.

docmac said...

Hi Mariana

I believe so, yes.

Unknown said...

Oh shucks is the demise of the 3As that simple!

There was me hoping for another barmy conspiracy theory like erm let me think

right Gerry McCann paid a professional hacker out the find maddie fund to put paid to one of the biggest sites that really pi^^es him off:-)))))))

Ana said...

Mariana,

Sorry for my late replay!:)
Sometimes the trials occur on close door, or because the suspect’s lawyers ask for it or because the judge thinks, is better that way for security reasons!
This is a high profile case.
Can you imagine the amount of people and journalist that will be there?

Unknown said...

Ana - I suspect "tickets" to get into the public gallery would be in rather high demand:-)))

Ana said...

But, if that happens, I am sure it will be allowed to a few journalist and we all be informed!
It will not be broadcast live on the TV or be allowed to the ordinary public to assist but that is only my opinion.

Ana said...

I am watching Rod Stewart live!:)

Unknown said...

Ana
Thanks for the info. Is there such law where the accused can demand a closed session?

I agree it is a high profile case, but on the other hand because the McCann's asked and got money from the public and still do so, it directly involves the public.
It is a Portuguese national interest case, after all. A little child has vanished and the Portuguese people and police have endured a lot of abuse.

Ana said...

Viv,
If there were tickets, they would be sold in last than one minute, methinks!:)

Ana said...

Mariana,
They can ask for privacy...

Ana said...

But don’t worry Mariana, we will be informed of all that happens, if a trial occurs!

Unknown said...

Ana
Thank you Ana.
I am certain they will allow Portuguese journalists. Our best chance then for the courtroom truth and not the CM spin, is Sandra Felgueiras.

Ana said...

Mariana, Sandra Felgueiras will be there for sure and British journalists too.No doubt about that!

dolores said...

Viv
I found this interesting post.


Today I went to a wedding not a million miles from Rothley.

There I met an acquaintance from the town whom I'd not seen for 2-3 years.

I asked him how Rothley was these days now that it had become famous - but did not disclose my strong McCann-sceptic views.

He told me about the the line of photographers who have regularly massed on the road from which the McCanns' home in 'The Crescent' can be seen. Sometimes there would be two dozen or more. Many camera crews and journalists parked on double yellow lines. When the parking fine notices were slapped on their windscreens, they simply left their cars parked on the yellow lines and paid their fines. The local Council did really well for most of 2007!

So far as the McCanns are concerned, my acquaintance told me this:

He sees Gerry McCann in the village shops occasionally, mostly the Co-op. He sees him coming 'to and from work'. He said 'he looks really ill, really has a haunted look about him'. He said that no-one in the whole village speaks to him. His explanation was that people would not know what to say. He said he might pluck up courage and say 'hallo' to him next time the saw him.

As for Kate, these were his exact words: "We never see the woman. We never see the woman at all. She seems to stay in the house most of the time. She's never seen in Rothley".

And, er, that's it...I didn't get any more to share.

Cláudia said...

I found this post on the pink newest House of Filth. I happened to be working on my collection when I found it. I'm glad I did, because it didn't last long. I was under the impression that they allowed difering views and loved to have a great debate! Tee hee hee Congrats to the poster who wrote it. I wouldn't waste my time, but I appreciate others doing it.

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Wake up all of you
by The Truth Today at 12:21 am
WHAT ARE THE ODDS OF....

An abduction of a child in the Iberian Peninsula?

Chances of an abductor doing a practice run the night before?

Chances that Kate McCann was involved with 6 bodies in the week before the holiday?

The chances of an abduction at night from a holiday apartment in Portugal?

What are the chances of a modern police force with access to forensic evidence suspecting the wrong people?

What are the chances of an abductor leaving no forensic evidence two nights in a row?

What are the chance of people who leave children alone in an apartment leaving doors unlocked, but forgetting they had when the issue of the abductor's entry is first raised?

Chances of turning down the resort's maid service the same day of your child's abduction?

Chances of turning down the resort's offer of a free babysitter the same day of your child's abduction?

chances of ANYONE leaving their child again when you know they were crying when you left them the previous night?

What are the chances of your almost 4 year old daughter stating that she had "the best day ever " 3 hours before she disappears?

What are the odds that the McCanns and all of their seven friends were not wearing watches? or had their mobiles with them?

What are the chances of the Portuguese police offering a "deal" which would be impossible under Portuguese Law?

The chances of Eddie and Keela (cadaver dogs) making a mistake?

What are the chances of a key witness, a close friend of the suspects, having lied in key testimony but NOT in cahoots with the suspects?

What are the chances of having your wallet, sports bag oh and your child, all stolen? - all in seperate incidents? Not to mention a mysteriously disappearing buggy.

What's the odds on getting a backer worth 350 million who offers a Government employee a job as your spokesman?

Chances of hiding behind a door that opens against a wall?

Chances of an abductor making his getaway on foot, carrying a sleeping child in pyjamas (not suspicious at all, happens all the time)?

Chances of entering an apartment through the door - with a key - and exiting through the window - I'm sparing you the details of the (impossible) window exit?

What's the odds on an innocent parent refusing to help the investigating police by answering questions and taking part in a reconstruction?

What are the odds of her being taken in the ONLY 5 minute window of opportunity when there was nobody checking (As stated by Gerry)?

....By an Abductor/Predator who then hovers by waiting for his 5 minute opportunity yet then decides to walk straight past the top of the road in full view 'Striding purposefully' in front of Jane Tanner?...

.....Who can see a small print pattern on PJ's from xx amount of feet away from her that I couldnt even make out when shown the print close up on TV?...

What's the odds of Jane Tanner having eyes in the back of her head?.....If she saw him as she was heading to the Tapas Bar...?

the odds of a mother who said she did not disturb evidence and knew the "abductor" had moved cuddle cat ,actually holding it washing it when that could have had the "abductors" prints on or dna?

What are the odds of the PJ not finding any prints of the twins or Madeleine?

What are the chances that, when someone in the group is asked to phone the police at 10.15pm but the police say the first call came in at 10.40pm, that its just a misunderstanding?

What are the chances that the parents of an abducted child keep forgetting to mention the £2m reward for her safe return during their TV appeals?

What are the chances of the parents of an abducted child not complaining vociferously about and sacking a detective agency if they endangered the life of their child by announcing the location of their kidnapped child and her imminent rescue - not once but on at least two separate occasions?

What are the chances of the parents staying in the apartment and praying while everyone else searched long into the night for the 'abducted' child?

The odds of NOT showing ANY HEARTFELT EMOTION at all for their little child missing?...

And the parents happily left the 2 two-year-olds in the care of the resort creche the next day - despite the fact that any member of staff could have been involved.


What are the chances of nine/ten people dining at the Tapas bar, and not ONE of them thinking that leaving their children/babies was wrong.


What are the chances that lots of your possessions get stolen,3 year old child,wallet,buggy and blue bag.


What are the chances of all the kids ,of all the families ,falling a sleep at approximatly the same time, and none of them waking up????

What are the chances of promoting the one distinctive feature, her eye defect that would surely
endanger your child's life by making her value to a potential abductor too risky and too hot to
handle? -Against the advice of the police.

What are the chances of a mother running away from the scene, leaving two, two year olds exposed to the very same abductor?

What are the chances despite doors being left unlocked, it was never suspected by the parents that the child ''hopefully'' might have merely wandered off

That the finger of suspicion was pointed at another (Robert Murat) by three of the group, until the likeness of one of the group was observed.


What are the chances of the parents happily leaving the 2 two-year-olds in the care of the resort creche the next day - despite the fact that any member of staff could have been involved.

What are the chances of ALL of the British Embassy staff in Portugal who were there at the time leaving in a very short space of time?


Two country's police forces..
Ex Sas officers..
30 private detectives..
The backing of a raft of millionaires..
Government intervention..
A blessing by the Holy Father..
A £2m reward..
An unprecedented 'awareness' campaign..
A £1m 'fighting fund' donated by the public..
The unstinting support of the British media..
Interpol..
The interest of the European parliament..
The recognition of White House officials..
The world's best sniffer dogs..
The world's most respected forensic scientists ..

... and still not a single lead ! ... still not a single clue turned up to support the abductor theory !

What are the odds on THAT ?


ANSWER...

1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to 1

Cláudia said...

Sleep well, all!

Ana said...

Cláudia,
Uau! What a wonderful post, says it all! No wonder it didn’t last long!
The person, who wrote this, thought that, that was a friendly forum, a free speech forum, as they are always inviting everyone to join it even if they have different opinions!
The person was wrong. They only accept who agrees totally with their views! That poster was not rude, he was very polite and even so they deleted it!
What a shame!
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docmac said...

Claudia

I just got back and saw your post. The poster you quoted has summed it up very, very well indeed. I did some quick calculations and the stats are slightly out, so I thought I might correct them. No offence to the OP.

The odds on all those scenarios panning out are actually:

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docmac said...

Help! I know there are a number of experts over on the pink side and I wonder if any of them have it in their hearts to help me make a very difficult decision. I know it's late, but I'm really battling with this problem.

A full term neonate in the unit presented with intractable CHF and it has now been confirmed radiographically that she has a choroidal VGAM.

Of course she will have to undergo transcatheter embolization. As this is a rare condition there have been relatively few studies published on this rather complex and vexing subject. A transarterial approach has been suggested in this particular case but a venous, combined arteriovenous or even a transtorcular approach could be used, depending on the surgeon's experience.

Embolic obliteration of arterial feeders only is probably the best method, with perioperative death rates of under 40% when using liquid acrylics in addition to complex helical VG coils. Severe neurological sequelae are a constant concern whatever the method used however.

My problem is this: As the operation is scheduled for 11am I have been asked to clean the theatre during my tea break. Should I ask for time and a half?

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