Very interesting choice of picture for Diario to use with the article below. They do say you have to speculate to accumulate and this looks to me like a load of printing Gerry had done, did he use his Mastercard for that, knowing he would be well reimbursed. Let us not forget this couple used the Fund monies to pay their mortgage, that seriously smacks of fraud and also a couple whose finances are not exactly in good order. Clearly one would normally expect such a couple to have several thousand pounds in reserve and definitely not need to be dip into a fund ostensibly to find their missing daughter. Remember Gerry's furious remark that they were ultimately being forced to use the Find Maddie Fund, to find Maddie!! given the PJ were only looking for her body. Gerry McCann has another criminal trait I have noted that is not an endearing one either, a clear sense of entitlement, he says what is going to happen, what the agenda is and then reacts with fury when the Police are far too intelligent to agree with him! That sly smug look is omnipresent and she clings to her stage prop, reeking of eau de corpse, not nice Kate, time to tell the truth!
The report below gives me cause for concern. It is understandable that the PJ wanted to know about cash withdrawals, use of his Mastercard and the amount of time spent on his mobile by Gerry McCann both before and after the disappearance of Madeleine. I do not think it was at all "disproportionate" for the PJ to want details of the transactions on Gerry's Mastercard for a period of six months. On the contrary in a major criminal investigation apparently involving fraud or financial problems being the motivation for murder it would be perfectly normal for police to scrutinise all financial transactions for a period of years, let alone months.
What are the British Police and the Home Office about? On the one hand there are so many indicators that they are taking this seriously and wish to pursue the McCanns. I particularly took heart when reading the comments of the barrister for the Chief Constable of Leicestershire Police in the High Court action the McCanns commenced demanding disclosure of all files held by LP in an action they themselves apparently started within days of Madeleine disappearing making her a Ward of Court. The barrister stressed that this case was very much still under investigation and there were operational reasons for not disclosing such details to the McCanns. But on the other hand this report is another example of where there does seem to be a clear failure to co-operate with Portuguese Police which does seem to have motivated them to abandon their own enquiry. I think there are two ways of looking at this, one there is a cover up by British authorities and a clear denial of relevant information to the Portuguese. I know a lot of people favour this view. The second is that in the UK serious investigations are dealt with in an extremely confidential way, information is not leaked to the newspapers, unless it is a strategic measure in relation to certain information to further the enquiry, generally where a direct appeal to the public is being made for help and information. Therefore there may have been concern that ultimately, whatever we disclosed to the Portuguese authorities could either be revealed to the McCanns and the general public via the Portuguese press or, ultimately, via the opening up of the investigation as has now happened. Have we therefore deliberately held vital information back to further our own enquiry into the conduct of the McCanns? Increasingly, I feel this is a very real possibility. I have read that the specialist Economic Crimes Unit at LP have also been investigating this case. This is very pertinent to the facts of this case and IMO always has been. It has been abundantly clear from a very early stage that amassing large amounts of money are very important to the McCanns and that they used Madeleine as a marketing logo employing a number of firms specialising in this area to further that aim, like Mr Halligen for example. He has no expertise at all in finding missing children does he. The McCanns are clearly worried that his name has come out in the press and the fact that this man has apparently been "axed". It would seem he was not assisting in protecting the McCanns' image at all and therefore he had to go! Quite why that is of so much concern to their DG pal remains a mystery but I have a view as to why he may be involved and so concerned. In fact it would seem, even seeking to placate Mr Murat for the wrong done to him by the false accusations.... of paedophilia, something the apparent supporters of Kate and Gerry McCann do not think we should be discussing on here. Well that clearly tells us something. However, I sometimes wonder whether they really are on Kate and Gerry's side. Their blogs are such sick and sinister places with the comments filled with hatred, venom and very perverse thinking which would not occur to a normal person. Could they really be trying to demonstrate, by association what Kate And Gerry are really like, as they so accurately portray : sinister, sick and evil!
JUSTICE FOR MADDIE, NO MATTER WHAT ROUTE THAT MAY TAKE, IF IT MEANS EXPOSING CORRUPTION THAT IS WHAT WE CONTINUE TO DO!
Request for research on the accounts of Gerry is disproportionate British authorities saw no reason to justify research bank to the father of Maddie
The Portuguese police have asked the British authorities to investigate the collaboration of Gerry McCann bank accounts under the disappearance of Maddie. However, this request was considered excessive by the British authorities, since they covered a period of six months. Initially the authorities requested a clarification to the public prosecutor Portuguese, who best explained the reasons for the request: to identify whether there was some unknown reason behind the disappearance of Maddie and whether there is any individual or individuals responsible for their disappearance. The English authorities did not accept the request for clarification of Portugal and, in its letter of reply, sent the June 16, voicing concern about the reasons that led the authorities to request information on banking operations for six months, the credit card of Martercad Maddie's father. The counting of this period of time began to April 1, about six weeks before the disappearance of the child. Despite the official explanation of the Portuguese authorities, British police also took into account an unofficial explanation provided by the research team which visited England. At the time the police said Gerry McCann from Leicestershire which had been seen to raise cash in machines and talk to the phone. The Portuguese police wanted to know whether this action could be related to the disappearance. Kennah Francs, head of UK Central Authority, explains that after weighting in the application of coercive measures, the office, sees no reason to grant the permit requirements, whereas the request is not justified and seem disproportionate. The British authorities seeking clarification new to Portugal, however, this is not sent and the case is filed just over a month later. Without evidence that the couple McCann has committed any crime, the MP decided to close the case. On July 21, Kate and Gerry, along with Robert Murat, views raised the status of accused.
The report below gives me cause for concern. It is understandable that the PJ wanted to know about cash withdrawals, use of his Mastercard and the amount of time spent on his mobile by Gerry McCann both before and after the disappearance of Madeleine. I do not think it was at all "disproportionate" for the PJ to want details of the transactions on Gerry's Mastercard for a period of six months. On the contrary in a major criminal investigation apparently involving fraud or financial problems being the motivation for murder it would be perfectly normal for police to scrutinise all financial transactions for a period of years, let alone months.
What are the British Police and the Home Office about? On the one hand there are so many indicators that they are taking this seriously and wish to pursue the McCanns. I particularly took heart when reading the comments of the barrister for the Chief Constable of Leicestershire Police in the High Court action the McCanns commenced demanding disclosure of all files held by LP in an action they themselves apparently started within days of Madeleine disappearing making her a Ward of Court. The barrister stressed that this case was very much still under investigation and there were operational reasons for not disclosing such details to the McCanns. But on the other hand this report is another example of where there does seem to be a clear failure to co-operate with Portuguese Police which does seem to have motivated them to abandon their own enquiry. I think there are two ways of looking at this, one there is a cover up by British authorities and a clear denial of relevant information to the Portuguese. I know a lot of people favour this view. The second is that in the UK serious investigations are dealt with in an extremely confidential way, information is not leaked to the newspapers, unless it is a strategic measure in relation to certain information to further the enquiry, generally where a direct appeal to the public is being made for help and information. Therefore there may have been concern that ultimately, whatever we disclosed to the Portuguese authorities could either be revealed to the McCanns and the general public via the Portuguese press or, ultimately, via the opening up of the investigation as has now happened. Have we therefore deliberately held vital information back to further our own enquiry into the conduct of the McCanns? Increasingly, I feel this is a very real possibility. I have read that the specialist Economic Crimes Unit at LP have also been investigating this case. This is very pertinent to the facts of this case and IMO always has been. It has been abundantly clear from a very early stage that amassing large amounts of money are very important to the McCanns and that they used Madeleine as a marketing logo employing a number of firms specialising in this area to further that aim, like Mr Halligen for example. He has no expertise at all in finding missing children does he. The McCanns are clearly worried that his name has come out in the press and the fact that this man has apparently been "axed". It would seem he was not assisting in protecting the McCanns' image at all and therefore he had to go! Quite why that is of so much concern to their DG pal remains a mystery but I have a view as to why he may be involved and so concerned. In fact it would seem, even seeking to placate Mr Murat for the wrong done to him by the false accusations.... of paedophilia, something the apparent supporters of Kate and Gerry McCann do not think we should be discussing on here. Well that clearly tells us something. However, I sometimes wonder whether they really are on Kate and Gerry's side. Their blogs are such sick and sinister places with the comments filled with hatred, venom and very perverse thinking which would not occur to a normal person. Could they really be trying to demonstrate, by association what Kate And Gerry are really like, as they so accurately portray : sinister, sick and evil!
JUSTICE FOR MADDIE, NO MATTER WHAT ROUTE THAT MAY TAKE, IF IT MEANS EXPOSING CORRUPTION THAT IS WHAT WE CONTINUE TO DO!
Request for research on the accounts of Gerry is disproportionate British authorities saw no reason to justify research bank to the father of Maddie
The Portuguese police have asked the British authorities to investigate the collaboration of Gerry McCann bank accounts under the disappearance of Maddie. However, this request was considered excessive by the British authorities, since they covered a period of six months. Initially the authorities requested a clarification to the public prosecutor Portuguese, who best explained the reasons for the request: to identify whether there was some unknown reason behind the disappearance of Maddie and whether there is any individual or individuals responsible for their disappearance. The English authorities did not accept the request for clarification of Portugal and, in its letter of reply, sent the June 16, voicing concern about the reasons that led the authorities to request information on banking operations for six months, the credit card of Martercad Maddie's father. The counting of this period of time began to April 1, about six weeks before the disappearance of the child. Despite the official explanation of the Portuguese authorities, British police also took into account an unofficial explanation provided by the research team which visited England. At the time the police said Gerry McCann from Leicestershire which had been seen to raise cash in machines and talk to the phone. The Portuguese police wanted to know whether this action could be related to the disappearance. Kennah Francs, head of UK Central Authority, explains that after weighting in the application of coercive measures, the office, sees no reason to grant the permit requirements, whereas the request is not justified and seem disproportionate. The British authorities seeking clarification new to Portugal, however, this is not sent and the case is filed just over a month later. Without evidence that the couple McCann has committed any crime, the MP decided to close the case. On July 21, Kate and Gerry, along with Robert Murat, views raised the status of accused.
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Haha Nancy
That's not my mug. I'm a lot fatter and uglier than that, Ask Claudia :-))
ICTOAN, the Cape of Storms certainly has it's moments. There are lots of memorials dotted around here. Maybe your relative's name is on one of them.
BTW, ST
It was an early first trimester spontaneous abortion. She was never admitted to hospital. I know your ambition was to be a doctor, but please don't get into things you know little about.
Doc
Happily he survived the shipwreck and signed up for one of the irregular units attached to the British Forces engaged in the local difficulty that took place soon after he "landed".
I have his campaign medal (under an assumed name) as I think the ship he "left" belonged to the Royal Navy.
He must have been re-habilitated eventually as his WW1 medals are in his own name.
And there is Rosiepoops writing me 'love' letters again. Oh god she spends a lot of time doing this. Say hi to Bark for me.
Doc, you're not uglier or fatter. You're just different from the person in that picture.
My 97 year old family friend has taken a turn for the worse. She doesn't recognise anyone anymore. Medication isn't working. It seems like it's the end of the line. She has got a 78 year old daughter and an 84 year old son-in-law. And up until around a week ago she was lucid and was quite independent. Nice way to get to 97, don't you think?
ICTOAN
That is good to hear. Oh, he must have had some great tales to tell!
I'm telling you, Doc, she lusts after you. :-)
Sorry to hear the news about the old lady Claudia. Sounds like she had a great innings until now.
Going to crawl under the duvet with a beautiful woman and a cup of cocoa to watch some TV. It's flipping cold here right now.
Cheers all.
Thanks, Doc. Her daughter is very nervous. Of course people know that a 97 year old cannot live forever. But it's her mother and she was used to see her as a very healthy, independdent old lady until very, very recently. Yes, she did have a remarkable life and was incredibly healthy up until now.
Enjoy your time with your wife.
Here it's not exactly a summer day either.
Now this news may have been discussed by you all when I was in the Lake Disrtict but if it wasn't here is some news...
'...The infamous holiday flat where Madeleine McCann vanished has been put up for sale for £250,000.
Can a flat be “infamous”? It was the flat wot dunnit?
Potential buyers could begin viewing the flat from as early as next week, raising the possibility of voyeurs keen to see where the three-year-old disappeared looking round.
Dreadful. Better to just look around the property on the Mail’s website.
Flat 5A at the Ocean Club holiday complex has two bedrooms, measures 90 metres squared and is 20 years old. It is 500 metres from the beach.
Compact. Bijou. And handy for an abduction, allegedly… Does Our Maddie make it more or less valuable?
According to the newspaper 24 Horas, the price of the property is ’substantially higher than others with similar characteristics’ also on sale in the resort.
Another apartment just one minute from the beach is currently on sale for less than half the price at £103,000 (127,500 Euros).
Speculation, Speculation. Speculation. ‘Tis the property developer’s mantra…
The SUN: “Maddie flat goes up for sale”
A source at the estate agent said: “We should have the key by the end of this week.”
Can’t wait…
Anyone know a decent estate agent?
DAILY TELEGRAPH: “’Madeleine McCann holiday apartment up for sale’”
The holiday apartment in the Algarve where Madeleine McCann vanished 16 months ago has reportedly been put up for sale.
Great. I’ve already bought 10 Rillington Place and 23 Cranley Gardens…
Now Liverpuddlian Ruth McCann - who is no relation to Madeleine - is said to be keen to sell and the property is on the market for £250,000. The retired teacher has handed over the keys to a local estate agent and potential buyers are expected to start viewing next week, according to the Portuguese newspaper 24 Horas...'
http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/189175.html
Hi Doc
Crawling under duvets with a hot woman is to be thoroughly recommended Doc but crawling under duvets with a hot cup of cocoa is a tad dangerous for ones goolies !!
ONE FURTHER QUESTION
When the couple visited Rome how much mileage was done on the hire car when they were away but better still ...
WHY did they need a hire car at all? When Madleleine was known to be alive they didn't need one did they.
Another question
How long would it take you to carry a sports bag to the beach and return back quickly if the beach was 500 metres away. If you are fit ie you play tennis and run regularly and walk briskly say 5 miles per hour it would take you 4 minutes and then if you say left your sports bag there and returned you could do it all in about 10 - 15 minutes. Not long hey.
Is that about the time it takes for one to leisurely use the toilet for an extended toilet trip or indeed about the same time it takes to leave the restaurant and 'visit' all the children sleeping in their rooms?
The artcile about the sale of the apartment is actually today's news
after all
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/madeleinemccann/2674111/Madeleine-McCann-holiday-apartment-up-for-sale.html
Is there anyone out there ? :)
Have you spilt your hot chocolate yet Doc?
Hi Guys! BT - I'm here although I know that it doesn't count for much!
I haven't the time to read back properly again as life just seems to have gone a bit mad these last few days for me!
Docmac, I have read what happened to you and your beautiful lady. I am so, so sorry for you both. I know what it feels like after my miscarriage but I'm still lost for words. All I can say is that time will heal, and put your trust in fate. There's a reason for everything, no matter how much it hurts, but better times will come. You just need to believe that and take heart that you have lovely, healthy children and a wife that has a loving husband such as yourself, and you will both get through this.
Bye for now. Have a good evening everybody. I hope I've time soon to catch up properly.
xx
Great link Claudia to the you tube video but how about this (which seemed dodgy at the time) now viewed with hindsight and more knowledge. It is almost criminal that they were allowed to leave Portugal.
Good night Dylan sleep tight
Claudia's link
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6F0-SM6tPXU&feature=related
Docmac - great storm pics! That's La Nina for you! To all of us Brits, little consolation but we should have a better summer next year :-)
xx
One thing I know about Doc is he would not want us all being in grief for days and he would want us to keep discussing the days events. I will wwait another 5 minutes and then disappear as school year starts tomorrow but I am happy to discuss the numerous questions I have posed this very evening.
BT - cheers but I'm not off to the land of nod just yet! Just have too much to do with so little time!! I'll read back tomorrow. xx
BT, good luck with school start tomorrow! I know what that feels like. Hope your brain's up for the 100s of new names! I used to get mine to make name cards with coloured-in pictures of things that define them. Keeps 'em occupied for ages ;-)
xx
Hi BT and Dyl
No, very careful with the cocoa :-) Still in bed, it's getting colder by the minute.
This gave us a good laugh just now :-)))
Doc, loved the video! ROTFLMAO!
Going for a nice, hot soup and wonderful crepe with ice-cream and chocolate. :-)
Hi BT -
So Ruth McCann has put her flat on the market for double the price of similar ones in the vicinity of PdeLuz! It seems the name McCann is synonymous with making money out of poor Madeleine's disappearance and very sad fate!
One more person to add to all the other vultures. What parasites the whole lot of them are!
Viv is right - 'speculate to accumulate'!! Disgusting if you ask me!
Thanks Dylan and Doc It mad me laugh too dude. Now I am off as it seems the sale of the McCann flat is only interesting me tonight and a new school year starts tomorrow.
Mr D + Mrs D - Go hump like rabbits tonight !!!!
:)
Hi Nancy
I don't believe she is not a relative. Did you see the list of people who rented it a few weeks after the disappearance.
Hot soup and ice cream? You are a strange one :-)
Goodnight everyone, my typing fingers (both of them) need to get under the bedding now. Brrrr.
BT
If you insist. Night.
Doc one last thing,
If that is a picture of you
'Get your bloody haircut '
:)
Number 1 all over and I am talking about the haircut not some bedroom game !!!!!
Bath theory, my opinion: whoever the seller is, she is just trying to make good money. if she doesn't break the law to do it, it's fine by me. But only an idiot would pay what she's asking.
Doc, yes. The contrast is great! Of course you're supposed to it separately! :-)
Boa noite if I don't read you again tonight!
Sure Claudia but do you honestly think that the seller Ruth McCann is not related to the couple. It seems a little fishy to me.
Bath Theory, I don't know. Mr Amaral never spoke about that possibility as far as I'm aware. I trust his judgement.
Hi BT -
Yes I did see the list of those renting after K&G moved out. If that was just a coincidence then it's a mighty strange one!
Personally, I think anyone who would pay twice the going rate for a flat where a young girl had disappeared and whose DNA was found in suspicious places in that flat, then they must be very ghoulish folk! I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole!
To have to lay in bed and ponder on what went on that fateful night would be too much to bear.
Evening everyone
BT, the song you have posted the other night is brilliant, thanks:)
Dyl,good to read you,and am sorry for the abuse you are suffering from the other side. Keep the moral high ground!
Claudia, I have sent docmac an email and he is very welcome to share with you. No secrets amongst friends.
Goodnight everyone -
Time to turn in!
See you all tomorrow.
Nx
Thanks, SC. :-)
Sleep tight, Nancy.
Night Nancy
Boa noite, all.
OMG, Did you see the ads google put on here for baby monitors!
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