16 Jan 2009

HOW MUCH HAS AGGRESSIVE PHILOMENA MCCANN BEEN A PART OF A DISASTROUS CAMPAIGN BY THE MCCANNS?

Going back in time I remember confusion from Police reports that it seemed the McCanns were being investigated into not just homicide but kidnapping as well. I increasingly have a feeling of what may have gone on here..and the Police's real need to try and recover Madeleine, that had to be the priority..Interpol, CEOP, SOCA, you name it. Charging Kate and Gerry could be put on hold, she has always come first I think!

Police are reported to "know the truth" and believe Maddie may have been taken for sexual motive on 6.5.07:

Guilhermino Encarnacao, director of the judicial police in the Faro region, hinted there may be a sexual motive. "Kidnapping is not just for money but can be for sexual abuse,' he said.

But his belief Madeleine is still alive and his disclosure that he has witnesses brought a delighted response from the girl's family.

Her aunt, Philomena McCann, said: "It's more than hope, it's a distinct feeling of elation. But it's important to keep your emotions in check because the last couple of days have been like a rollercoaster. It's great to have some hope but we need something to happen. We want her back."

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23395176-details/Police:+We+know+who+took+Maddy/article.do



Sometimes we can see a real red mist rising in the piece below, Gerry asked her to restrain herself, but hey "the gloves are off"..There are some pretty heavy adjectives/ phrases going on here! Have we been looking at these for a long time, ever since about September 2007 in fact? Ok Gez I will not speak out on TV or anything again, but, the gloves are really off and I am livid, how dare they say such things about ma wee brother! These Rosiepops character who likes to brag she is so in the know, yes I think you are Rosie/Preshy:-)))

PS If it helps, I am not too keen on you either!

Philomena McCann (Madelines Aunt) Speaks On This Morning

In light of the shocking revelations that Kate McCann, mother of missing child Madeline McCann had been named as a suspect in the case, Madeline’s aunt yesterday spoke to Phillip Schofield and Ruth on yesterdays This Morning show on ITV1.

Ruth: “Only a week or so ago, you were in here talking to us and so much has happened in such a short space of time. I know that you’ve spoken to Kate this morning, 11 hours she was at the station answering questions, how is she this morning?”

Philomena: “She’s completely outraged, just like the rest of the family. It’s inconceivable what’s happening to them out there. There they are, they’re victims of this horrendous crime and now they’re trying to sully their name in this disgusting manner with this smear campaign. It’s just unbelievable.

Ruth: “I know that during the news reports we’ve been seeing in the last couple of days it has been stressed that they are being questioned as witnesses not suspects. Is that still the case Philomena?”

Philomena
: “Not that I am aware of, no. As far as I know they’ve changed their status and they are suspects. And I do know that some of the things that Kate has been asked are just incomprehensible. It’s just the most shocking news ever.”

Phillip: “We’re confused because we’ve been waiting all week, in fact for longer then that, for this piece of forensic evidence which was supposed to throw the case wide open and certainly shed some light on the areas we haven’t understood in the past. This is not what we were expecting, certainly not what you were expecting. Has there been anything mentioned to you about this forensic evidence we were supposed to be hearing about?”

Philomena: “Yes, there has been things mentioned, it’s about body fluids being on the family’s clothes. I’m not sure exactly, I don’t know in-depth details. Some of it seems to me more then a little ludicrous. Of course there would be Madeline’s fluids on their clothes, they pick her up. She’s a little girl who get’s hugged and lifted. How does that change their status? As far as I can see all they’re trying to do is fit Kate and Gerry up now because they haven’t found this perpetrator, who’s wandering about completely free to act as he pleases and possibly do that again. But at this time Kate and Gerry’s names are just being totally sullied.”

Phillip: “Does this mean that they are now formal suspects? Am I correct in saying they have moved up to this ‘arguido’ status?”

Philomena: “Yes that’s true”

Phillip: “Does that offer them any other protection that they didn’t have before?”

Philomena: “The only protection it offers is that they’re allowed to take legal representation in with then when they’re being questioned by the police and the other thing that it does is that allows them not to answer questions in case they incriminate themselves. But that’s not what Kate and Gerry want to do. (OH REALLY!) The police are trying to suggest that Kate has in some way accidentally killed Madeline. How ludicrous is that when one of their friends actually saw Madeline being carried up the street but some unknown assailant?”

Ruth: “How much was Kate actually allowed to tell you? What kind of things did they ask her that’s made her now feel that they think she is a suspect in this?”

Philomena: “They were saying ‘Tell us what you did with her?” Kate’s like ‘You must be insane to think we’d put ourselves through this’. It’s just nonsense.”

Phillip: “The relationship between your family and the police, up until now, has appeared to be very good. They’re been frustration and certainly a discussion that mistakes have been made but that aside you do seem to have had a good relationship with the police.”


Philomena:
“My brother’s telling me, do not antagonise these people. The enquiry is in their hands, we have to work with these people, they are our best hope. You have to be very political with what you say about them buy hey the gloves are off, these people are imbeciles.”

Ruth: “Is it right that Gerry is being questioned separately today?”

Philomena: “He’s going in at 2pm today. But he’s not the main suspect, for some unknown reason there’s something about a sniffer dog sniffing Kate. Suddenly a dog can talk and says she smelled a death. How can that be when a British sniffer dog came out months after Madeline’s case. They’re doctors, if there’s a smell of death on them could that possibly be a patient?”

Philomena: “You can imagine how low they feel about they with this, and yet there’s this adrenaline pumping through them because at the end of the day all the time they’re treating Kate and Gerry as suspects, the perpetrator is out there laughing that they’ve got away with this.”

Ruth: “How much do you think these recent developments will affect your campaign now?”

Philomena: “I think with out a doubt they’ll be a large number of people who think mud sticks. Whatever they say this has been covered by every news channel. It’s all those adages, ‘there’s no smoke without fire’. Well it depends where that smoke’s coming from and I think that smoke is just a smokescreen.”

Phillip: “Philomena, we’ll leave it there for the moment, all of us with our mouths wide open with shock and maybe we could speak to you again on Monday after the weekend and you could give us another update.”

Philomena:Can I just tell the whole audience out there. This is a complete fabrication. Gerry and Kate have got nothing to with the disappearance of their daughter. It has been them pushing this investigation from day one. It is just not true.”

79 comments:

viv said...

How do you KNOW what is going to happen next Rosie, maybe you should go to the Police!

Rosiepops said...

Well I read that thread and what a lot of rubbish it is. The same culprits spewing out the same old predictable nonsense.
The only thing different is Viv trying to creep and crawl her way in favour, now that is vomit inducing, perhaps we should rename Viv the 'vomitinducer'? I was almost embarrassed for her.

I think they are all protesting too much, they so do not want to hear anything positive about the search for Madeleine. Obviously most of them do not want her found, after all it would destroy their sad little spite fest.

If their sad and sick little brains cannot cope with this news and they have flown up in arms about it, I wonder what they will think about what happens next? Now that is really going to upset them!
15 January 2009 23:05

viv said...

Does Gerry get cross when you have just gone a bit too far Rosie and ask you to keep deleting all your blog, just like him, does he think that sometimes you are not quite politically correct? Less than helpful, well before you get chance to delete this lot, here it is again, we noticed you get very upset about him, in particular, not so concerned about Kate, are you!

Anonymous said...

Viv, what happened to your declaration yesterday(the one below). You really should learn to practice what you preach.
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But finally I would appeal to anyone reading this to remember, the Police have a duty to promote law and order. They cannot and will not allow any member of the public to attack Kate and Gerry McCann. They are now entitled to be left alone and not suffer fear of personal intimidation or violence. Please leave them alone and do not join an unlawful crusade. If they have killed Madeleine they will either have to live with that or ultimately face justice for it.

Viv xx
14 January 2009 13:35
Viv decoded said...

But finally I would appeal to anyone reading this to remember, the Police have a duty to promote law and order. They cannot and will not allow any member of the public to attack Kate and Gerry McCann. They are now entitled to be left alone and not suffer fear of personal intimidation or violence. Please leave them alone and do not join an unlawful crusade. If they have killed Madeleine they will either have to live with that or ultimately face justice for it.

Viv xx

Basically this means there is no room for vigilantes, other than ME, of course. I can publish what I want, but if anyone else decides to criticise them I will not agree with them and will attack them as I don't like people stealing my thunder.

The police have a duty to promote law and order, and I have a duty to promote hatred.

However, if the McCanns are living in fear of personal intimidation and threats, this is probably down to me because of all the lies and nonsense I have published about them.

Please leave them alone, or I will get into trouble. A communication arrived the other day reminding me about my behaviour and now I am running scared, planning to go underground and viciously attacking all those who:

A) Have reported me
B) are running far more successful McCann witch hunts that I ever could with my limited intelligence and skills.

There is this real solicitor who I would really like to get my hands on...he has really shown me up lately, making me look like a fantasist. No one posts on my blog or takes it seriously anymore and even on the 3A's there are people laughing at me.

xxx
Vile Viv
14 January 2009 15:02
Anonymous said...

viv said...
There are some very carefully phrased claims in all the newspapers:

"it is understood that ex police officers are assisting in the search"

Whenever a lawyer is making a claim that he knows to be false the stock phrase is:

it is my understanding , it is my belief etc.

in that way when it turns out be false he cannot be accused of lying, no he can say it was an honestly held but mistaken belief.

So Gerry did not ask the PJ to re-open the process, he wanted to make sure he would not be arrested before returning, there are no ex police advising, there are no PIs searching in Portugal, but he went to Portugal to find out what else could be done in the searches by chatting with his team of lawyers and going on TV.


Well Gerry we just think you are a conman and a liar, just like your press spokesman who cannot tell us who is actually looking for Maddie. And what is more no one believes you!

Claudia, your bedroom, yikes, a truly ghastly prospect!

I can certainly understand the Portuguese people being very angry indeed about this man returning and abusing your Country once more or several times with his publicity stunts to ahem meet his lawyers etc!

Truth is we do not want him hear, either, unless it is in Winson Green or some similar less salubrious form of hotel:-)))) We the tax payers will gladly pick up the tab and ought to get an £800,000 boost to that!

xx

Wednesday, 14 January 2009 14:35:00 o'clock GMT

It is driving you nuts Viv, the not knowing what is going on.
But believe it or not, the McCanns do not owe you an explanation of what they are doing. Why should they care about a two bit blogger like yourself? If they don't care about the likes of Tony Bennett, they sure as hell don't care what you think or say.

Oh, and by the way I am the same anon as above and they way I see it you are FICKLE. You say one thing one day and something different the next. You make Tony Bennett look like a saint.
14 January 2009 15:03
Anonymous said...

Vile, what happened to "they are entitled to be left alone"

You are one unbelievable hypocrite. No more than 24 hours after making that announcement, here you are sniping at their heels. You just cannot help yourself can you, you pathetic creature.
14 January 2009 15:49
Anonymous said...

Reading the posts left on the vile blog, it seems that most of her sycophants are unaware of how much trouble that blog is in...

Looks like Viv has failed to inform them of the TRUE motives of her decision to run and hide.

And the thought that this has happened to someone who just a week ago was going around goading others with a fake email, LOL.

There is some divine justice, after all.
14 January 2009 17:52
Mum21 said...

Having just endured reading 50 pages of cr-p about Gerry's trip to Portugal on the 3A's I could only find one sensible post.
What planet do most of these 3A's posters come from. But I thank God for small mercies...Viv was nowhere to be seen!
kezza114, you are a rose amongst hundreds of thorns.

kezza114 Post subject: Re: GERRY IN PORTUGAL !!! (merged topics)Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:46 pm

New In Town

Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:04 am
Posts: 35 I see that the wild and unfounded speculation is still going strong 24 hours after the event. I suppose this is what happens when a forum is starved of any developments for almost 6 months.

Gerry McCann went to meet with lawyers - that is about the size of it.

Why did he meet with lawyers?

My best guess is that he was seeking legal advice regarding certain aspects of the private investigation - access to personal information could be one of them.
14 January 2009 19:37
Tinkerbell43 said...

Vile wrong again, lol. You speak only for yourself and your little motley crew when you say to Gerry "no-one believes you"

Have you seen the Evening Standards apology ?
14 January 2009 21:59
Anonymous said...

Tinkerbell, every time Vile opens her mouth she has been proven 100% wrong!!
14 January 2009 23:41
Anonymous said...

Viv talking about herself here?
What good insight at last.
Admitting one has a problem is the first step to recovery.
Well done Viv!!

Maybe there are those on both sides of the debate who have wanted to promote a very fixed point of view. That has nothing to do with honestly enquiring of the truth and wanting to find out what happened to Maddie. It has everything to do with the promotion of self interest.

Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:10:00 o'clock GMT
15 January 2009 13:48
Mum21 said...

It is driving the members on the 3A's nuts because they do not know what Rosiepops does or does not know. They do not know our reaction to Gerry's visit to Portugal....or if we already knew he was going.
Well.....that is for us to know...and you to carry on wondering.
But I will give you all a little clue...as per usual Viv has got it ar-e about face.

(waves Viv)
15 January 2009 13:52
Rosiepops said...

Even after all this time, these antis still have the ability to have me shaking my head in total disbelief when I read what they write.

Viv Said....

Maybe there are those on both sides of the debate who have wanted to promote a very fixed point of view. That has nothing to do with honestly enquiring of the truth and wanting to find out what happened to Maddie. It has everything to do with the promotion of self interest.

Thursday, 15 January 2009 02:10:00 o'clock GMT
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After all this woman has said and done to cause harm, pain and total despair to Mr Mrs McCann, she can in all honesty write the above? Is this woman serious, or has she finally lost all of her grip on reality?

Viv has totally promoted her own self interest, albeit, just to remain queen of her dirty foul psycho blog from hell. She has written reams and reams of long, boring tedious posts, the majority made up out of cutting and pasting from some obscure legal site, but all mostly had one thing in common, they were barbed with sometimes despicable accusations and ridiculous rumours and often foul filthy comments alluding to Gerry McCann, 'the father of an abducted child'. All without foundation, all unsubstantiated, all just absolute nonsense. She has blatantly called these parents liars, fraudsters, child abusers and murderers. She has depicted Gerry McCann as a cold, hard uncaring sociopathic bully, who has abused his wife and children. she has repeatedly called him a 'control freak'. She has depicted Kate as some kind of hussy while at university, has intimated that Kate drinks, publishing a picture of her at a wedding sitting at a table which had some glasses and bottles on. She has accused Kate of being cold and uncaring and unable to love or control her children or care for them properly, she has accused Kate of caring more about her appearance than she does about her daughter.

She has permitted the publication on her blog some of the foulest most awful comments by whom I think may be a paedophile.

She has allowed fantasists to post on her blog, who themselves have posted lies and unsubstantiated comments and despite being asked to prove this, has repeatedly been unable to do so.

She has allowed and also taken part in the "doctoring" of photos, of dear little Madeleine and her parents to be published on her blog. She has tried to portray the parents of an abducted child, in the vilest ways possible.

She has encouraged the naming of one of her posters children and the revelation of their most intimate details, telling her it was OK to name her underage children, talk about their underage sexual activities, while keeping the names of her own grandchildren sacrosanct (as they indeed should be).

She put on a pedestal, a cop who at best is just plain thick and a liar and at worse, well I will leave that to your own conclusions.

She lambasted the McCanns when she believe unfounded rumours about the McCanns maybe making some kind of appearance for money to top up the fund, to enable them to keep up the search for their child.

She tore into them for accepting damages in the High Court, despite the 'FACT' that every single penny of this money was placed directly and immediately into the Find Madeleine Fund.

She tore into members of the Tapas for accepting damages, who also donated every single penny to the Madeleine fund.

Yet she said nothing about Paulo Cristavao and Goncalo Amaral both writing books and cashing in on their failures as police detectives. She said nothing about the unsubstantiated nonsense written and subsequently spoken by Goncalo Amaral, in order that he may benefit in his 'early' retirement from the films and books about Madeleine, Madeleine the child he failed conclusively.

She said nothing about the monetary gain made by Robert Murat, who after all was a suspect, for longer than the McCanns.

Double standards, hypocrisy, lies, the whole lot and she has actively encouraged it all.

All I have ever wanted was simple, the return of Madeleine and those responsible for what happened to that child be brought to court and due process to be applied and her parents be treated with the respect and compassion they deserved. And the tenet that has served British justice well in the majority of cases 'Innocent Until Proved Guilty'.

All many of us have wanted, the reasonable ones from each level of thinking and conclusion, is the truth and we so desperately wanted to see the return of this dear child.

What did Viv want?

She actually 'wanted' these parents to be guilty of murdering and abusing their own child! She enjoyed the day in day out debate, where she appeared to be salivating over any gory detail she could find.

And then she starts writing all this stuff and would now have us all believe she is the epitome of reason,logic and humanity?

I do not buy it Viv, why not tell everyone the 'real' reason for your sudden change of heart? (Before someone else does!)
15 January 2009 15:43
Anonymous said...

If anyone wants a good laugh pop over to the 3A's. Viv is posting away merrily but being totally ignored. The rest of the members are pretending she is not there. PMSL
15 January 2009 20:15
Anonymous said...

PMSL well thats not hard to do is it?
She talks to herself on a regular basis lololol.
15 January 2009 20:19
Mum21 said...

Hope4Truth said..

As for RP it used to try and run the DX does it think anyone gives a damn what it thinks here? Face it you and your band of child hating freaks have convinced most people your heros are killers!!!

Thursday, 15 January 2009 20:33:00 o'clock GMT

Hope... you chose your name well...I HOPE to God you be forgiven for the sick and disgusting bile you spew out in the name of Justice for Madeleine.
You are a disgrace to the human race!
15 January 2009 21:00
Anonymous said...

Mum21,

Re Hope,
There is no Hope for her.

These people live to spew daily hate, this is why they cannot post anywhere else and cannot visit sites or read news which put their claims into question.

Any sign of evidence which may prove them wrong and they lose it completely.
15 January 2009 21:05
Rosiepops said...

Hope4Truth said..

As for RP it used to try and run the DX does it think anyone gives a damn what it thinks here? Face it you and your band of child hating freaks have convinced most people your heros are killers!!!

Thursday, 15 January 2009 20:33:00 o'clock GMT

Hope4Truth, yet when we give you the truth don't like it.

Bye bye moron, hurry now or you'll miss your bus and be late for your group therapy session.

By the way Hope4abrain, what is a heros?
15 January 2009 21:12
Rosiepops said...

By the way, I did run the DX, you idiot! Work that one out if you can.
15 January 2009 21:14
Mum21 said...

hope4truth said...
Night Di

Well people are talking again now but I have not heard anything positive.

Who jets off round the world and never helps the PJ then a year and a half later goes back to start looking???

Even a Pro must think he has gone crazy if he belives people will buy it???

xxx

Thursday, 15 January 2009 21:07:00 o'clock GMT

We don't need to buy it Hope...we KNOW why Gerry went to Portugal. And take it from me...there was nothing sinister in it at all.
You are letting your imaginations run riot....and when you eventually find out the truth of the visit you are all going to look so silly. (even sillier than usual).

Sleep well.
15 January 2009 21:24
Tinkerbell43 said...

I see Hapless is still bitter and twisted. She seems mighty rattled for someone that doesn't give a damn!
15 January 2009 21:33
Rosiepops said...

Has anyone got a link to the 3 A's please.
15 January 2009 21:34
Rosiepops said...

hope4truth said...
Night Di

Well people are talking again now but I have not heard anything positive.

Who jets off round the world and never helps the PJ then a year and a half later goes back to start looking???

Even a Pro must think he has gone crazy if he belives people will buy it???

xxx

Thursday, 15 January 2009 21:07:00 o'clock GMT

Do you even know how moronic you come across?
15 January 2009 21:42
Mum21 said...

Rosie, do you just want a link to the 3A's...or a specific thread?
15 January 2009 21:45
Rosiepops said...

Hi Mum

The bit where Viv us making an ass of herself apparently.I could do with a laugh.
15 January 2009 21:49
Mum21 said...

It's on this thread Rosie...towards the last few pages. She posted several times but was totally ignored.

http://the3arguidos.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=27615
15 January 2009 21:54
Mum21 said...

Oh, and do you know that according to several 3A members Gerry is suspect because he wore a suit and tie in Portugal.
You could not make it up...could you?
15 January 2009 21:56
Rosiepops said...

Thanks for the link Mum.

As for Gerry being suspect because he wore a suit. It is laughable.

These people on the 3 A's, think they know everything, yet they know absolutely nothing. They are totally irrelevant and insignificant.

Have they had another royal visit from the impostor yet? Oh dear rotflmao.
15 January 2009 22:09
Mum21 said...

Rosiepops said..

Have they had another royal visit from the impostor yet? Oh dear rotflmao.

15 January 2009 22:09

No...just VIV! PMSL
15 January 2009 22:15
Rosiepops said...

Can you even wonder why a person like this is made a Moderator of a forum?

What's the betting the ex-coppers are Life on Mars extras and the ex-forces lot bear a strange resemblance to Andy McScab?

What sense does this statement make from bonnyNObrains? seems when she isn't baiting, bullying and banning people for having the audacity to disagree with her, she is employed to make idiotic posts like the one above.

I wonder what Any McNab has done to deserve her wrath?

What has BonniNObrains done in comparison to Andy McNab?

Grow up you stupid woman.
15 January 2009 22:20
Mum21 said...

There are a couple of very sensible posters on the 3A's...and I would love the chance to debate with them. But the rest of them are round the twist. One member even posted the theory that a member of the Royal family sexually abused Madeleine in Portugal and is pulling the strings of power with Kate and Gerry.
Now is that sick...or is it sick?
15 January 2009 22:21
Rosiepops said...

Mum, nothing about some of them over there surprises me, where do they get these crackpot theories from? They must have bitter and twisted minds to even think them up in the first place!
15 January 2009 22:23
Mum21 said...

Well Rosie, Viv spends more time on the 3A's these days than her own blog. And we all know the state of her mind.
15 January 2009 22:25
Rosiepops said...

I mean this is a classic example of nonsense, someone called Sabot posted a common sense post;

sabot wrote:
What family would go to these lengths if they knew what had happened to their daughter.?

It was soon followed by this piece of nonsense;

Understudy said...

What kind of family would wait over a year before returning to speak to the local investigating police, refuse to answer their questions and decline taking part in a police reconstruction if they genuinely believed her to be alive and in the hands of an abductor?

You prize pillock, no wonder your an "understudy!" They chose their name well! lol

The bloody PJ would NOT speak to the parents!

Did this "understudy" not read the letter from Kate McCann begging Paulo Rebelo to talk to them?

They did not refuse to answer questions, they were advised by their lawyer not to answer 'some' questions.

In any case perhaps Kate did not know why it was the Portuguese police did not secure the crime scene!

The McCanns actually asked for a reconstruction to be done in the early days after Madeleine went missing, the BBC Crimewatch team offered to do it, but is was refused by GONCALO AMARAL.

Then the PJ suddenly wanted a reconstruction over a year after Madeleine went missing, yet they were not going to televise it! What on earth would this achieve? It is lunacy!

Understudy, do yourself a couple of favors, stop talking about things you obviously know nothing about and and go study some more, you need it, you are thick.
15 January 2009 22:36
Rosiepops said...

I see the moronic Ironside never changes!

No disrespect to the english. But who knows an englishman who speaks perfect portuguese..I do not include Robert Murat in this...It is very rare to find here in spain an english person who makes the effort to learn spanish, although some do try.. So, the pink ponce wants us to believe that this crack team all speak fluent portuguese. If you do not speak the language you cannot run an investigation, mickymouse or otherwise.

So what is Ironside saying exactly and how does this pathetic twit know the team dos not speak fluent Portuguese?

Hello Ironside spoken to any consultants lately about Madeleine McCann? Moron.

Who let your dogs out?
15 January 2009 22:40
Rosiepops said...

This is another answer to the one sensible post I have read on that thread.

sabot wrote:
What family would go to these lengths if they knew what had happened to their daughter.?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Renoir Wrote...

The family who does not want you to find out that they disposed of the body of their own little girl.

You twit Renoir, they would hardly hire a team of detectives to look for their child if they had murdered her. What planet are you on?

This common sense question obviously has all the little chick pea brains rattled. lol
15 January 2009 22:49
Rosiepops said...

Oh dear I see thicko Zodiac has reappeared.

I think she has been looking for her brain cell, what a pity, all that time wasted, she still didn't find it. Talk about a 'fart in a trance' PMSL

viv said...

Well forgive me Rosie, but you have always made it patently obvious they/you care!

xx


"It is driving you nuts Viv, the not knowing what is going on.
But believe it or not, the McCanns do not owe you an explanation of what they are doing. Why should they care about a two bit blogger like yourself?"

viv said...

I understand you are frustrated I have not closed my blog Rosie, and we have not reacted well to Gerry's latest little slick media stunt, but does he really want you as part of that, well does he??? Or are you getting to be a bit of a liability?


http://justice4mccannfam.blogspot.com/2008/12/so-goncalo-amaral-hass-supposed-to-have.html

viv said...

All I care about is what happened to BETH MADELEINE MCCANN, and what is going to happen to her little brothers and sisters.

The rest of the family? I care about Justice!

xxx

viv said...

Dear dear "Rosie", you do give yourself away! What normal person would depict such incredible rage toward another blog that has a view on the McCann case but you!

Is this an example of how you care about what happened to little Maddie? You keep telling everyone, take the world on, it will not change what your brother is!


foul filthy comments alluding to Gerry McCann, 'the father of an abducted child'. All without foundation, all unsubstantiated, all just absolute nonsense. She has blatantly called these parents liars, fraudsters, child abusers and murderers. She has depicted Gerry McCann as a cold, hard uncaring sociopathic bully, who has abused his wife and children. she has repeatedly called him a 'control freak'.

viv said...

Philomena: “My brother’s telling me, do not antagonise these people."

But you just don't listen do you!

Nite Nite!

xxxx

viv said...

oh lol: could not have put it better myself!


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viv said...

Philo in her more in your face stage on 10/9/07 before Gerry told her to flipping well pack it up..Still she was right, 16 months later he went back for that oh so co-operative visit to ahem look for Madeleine alive as Philo vowed they knew she always was, not sure how she knew that! But she was one of the first Gerry was calling, how close, how nice!
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However, they are ready to face more questioning in Portugal and will fly back from time to time regardless of the police investigation, Philomena McCann said.

"They absolutely will co-operate with the police," she added. "They are more than prepared to undergo more questioning.

"It is their intention, regardless of whether they are asked ... to return at regular intervals to try and put pressure on the Portuguese police to change the direction of the investigation to look for Madeleine alive."


Her aunt Philomena McCann said the family is convinced she is still alive and want police to shift their focus away from the parents, who are formal suspects in the case. OH I BET THEY DO/DID!

hope4truth said...

Sorry but RP is a bloody freak why would we be worried about what is happening next? Anything positive re Madeleine would be welcome news I will say that again anything positve re MADELEINE the victim would be welcome news.

We have read the statements and they all conflict were changed too many errr and mmmms the body Language of Gerry and Kate would lead me to belive they had won the lottery yet suddenly they are suspects and it changes dramaticaly? No longer laughing it up but looking sad angry and worried all the emotions you would have expected in the days after Madeleine went missing...

I cant deal with a 3 year old child being neglected and then being told she has been abducted. To find out later that her parents never bothered to search for her, none of the friends bothered to look for her or check their own children, to read the statements and clearly see they were more intrested in covering their backs than really finding Madeleine.

To know that the Mother of a missing child was so arrogant she refused to answer a single question is bloody sick...

Reading back just now JT said it was only a few minutes back to the apartmen WTF???? and Philomena said "How ludicrous is that when one of their friends actually saw Madeline being carried up the street but some unknown assailant?”

It was dark and lets just say she did see a (bad parent as the child had no socks on) carrying a child it could have been anyone but more daming for this liar is one of the suspects never even saw her or the man he was talking to...

Oh well at least this woman has alerted us all to how weak Kate is and the family have told us Kate is never alone with the children talk about save my brother look at his wife!!!!!!!!

I dont believe in an abduction but if this was what happend it makes each of the 9 people on that holiday even more evil as each of them has gone out of their way to lie and if she was taken that is unforgivable. Murrat was obviously set up by them as I and many others said at the time How come no one who knew him that night saw him? So while the PJ were wasting thier time on him the real pervert had more time...

I am looking forward to whatever news is comming but unless Madeleine is found I am afraid it wont intrest me at all.. The PJ can anounce they got it totally wrong and the McCanns are indeed saints but I have seen just how happy they were after Madeleine was gone not just once but over and over again and so have millions of others and to every parent who loosing thier child is the worse thing they can ever imagine those images are discusting.

viv said...

Hiya Hope darling and well said as ever. What a disingenuous new post on 3 As by "drachensachen".

In no way does this post lay the Smith evidence to rest. On the contrary it provides evidence that Gerry was missing from the table at exactly the time Smith says he saw him.

She also says it provides independant evidence of regular checks. But what she fails to mention is there is no evidence here of any checks by the women, so how come we are expected to believe that on this particular night Tanner made a check just turned nine. It is quite alarming what this waiter says, Gerry came back and Kate left to make her alarmng discovery!

I think Team McCann are very, very worried by this issue!

I think it is possible Jane did see something but much later than she says. It is claimed that she was called to go and relieve Russ because Evi was sick. If you look at all the timelines this must have been in between about 9.40 and 9.50. The first description she gave to police was a pretty accurate description of Gerry McCann. White, 5'10, med build aged 35-40 years, light beige trousers dark coat and shoes. As we know this later got morphed into a swarthy man with hideous teeth, it got Gran Coopered! It seems to me that Jane did the "abductor" and so did Mr Smith around the same time and one is convinced it was Gerry and the other one is describing him. I do not believe Jane did any check at all at 9.15 and this is why Gerry and Wilkins did not see her. Gerry has said how normally very quiet it was, Wilkins being in the area was a big problem I think!

For those who also have access to the DVD please feel free to verify for oneself and confirm or counter claim whichever you deem appropriate.

The Smith initiative laid to rest AND independent evidence of regular checks

Post by honestbroker on Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:55 am

A specious line of reasoning (in support of the notion that Mr Smith and his family saw Gerry) runs that no one outside the group of diners and the McCanns' friends vouched for Gerry's whereabouts and, well, they would say that, wouldn't they? The files say otherwise. But I'll return to that point.

First, an observation of plain common sense. I've found, from the files, an independent source that, indeed, puts the Smith sighting at 2200. Surely, if, at this time, Gerry was hotfooting it down to the beach with the body of his dead daughter, Kate would have given him a bit more leeway than to raise the alarm at precisely that moment. More than that, Gerry's absence from the restaurant for a period of time sufficient for him to have buried his daughter is something, surely, that would have been remarked upon by very many people. Yet I've been through the witness statements of the tapas staff on duty at the restaurant on that fateful night of May 3rd, and not one does.

Now take a look at this:

SVETLANA S. V.

Russian citizen - kitchen assistant:

He reports that yesterday, someone whom he believes to be the father of the missing child, left the table where he was dining with a group of friends (8 0r 9 in number) fro around 30 minutes. On his return, a woman, whom he believes to be the wife of the latter, left, in the table in her turn, and after a very short time, all the guests left the table with the exception of an older lady who told the informant's colleagues that the child had disappeared. During the whole time he was working, between 2.30 and 11pm, he didn't see anyone with blond, "Rasta," locks.

And then this:

Joaquim Jos� Moreira Baptista

Waiter
Time/Date: 18H50 2007/05/06
Portuguese National

� Is employed as a waiter in the Tapas restaurant since 12th of February, 2007;
� Works daily from 16H00 to 24H00, with the exception of Saturdays, where he begins at 11H30 and leaves at 18H00;
� The nationality of the clients who frequent the restaurant are mostly foreign nationals (mostly from the U.K.) and who stay in the Ocean Club;
� Was aware of picture of the missing child and the group of British tourists that accompanied her but was unaware of their names;
� About a week before the disappearance, the same group would dine almost exclusively at the Tapas restaurant;
� During the times he saw the group dining in the restaurant, he never saw any children with them;
� He does not remember having seen Madeleine �face to face�, and knows her from the photograph circulating at the time of her disappearance;
� It was normal for the men of the dining group, to get up and leave the restaurant and return minutes later. The witness is not aware of where the men were going to but that they would be gone for about 15 minutes;
� The witness can speak clearly to these events because many times he had to bring back the entre/dinner plate of said client(s), until they returned to the table;
� Remembers that on the night of Thursday, the 03rd of May, 2007, Madeleine�s parents dined at the Tapas restaurant, together with the normal group of people. He believes that they arrived between the hours of 20H00 and 21H00;
� He remembers that it was around nine people and remembers having taken the orders of the group;
� Later, between 22H00 and 22H30, he was in the kitchen, and was alerted, by a colleague, to the fact that a guest entered the restaurant screaming, and at this point, the entire group left in a panic;
� His colleague proceeded to tell him that the (screaming) individual indicated that a child had gone missing;
� A few minutes later, the witness noticed that there was a lot of agitation, with many people looking for the child;
� The information that followed was that the missing child, a girl, was the daughter of one of the British couples, referred to above;
� At this point, the witness states that there was no suspicious activity, that he was aware of, around the Ocean Club immediate areas;
� No one asked the witness about the habits of the group or about other groups in particular, or the children of said groups;
� Also states that on Thursday, the day Madeleine disappeared, as he arrived at work, he did not notice the presence of anyone who looked strange/out of place or of a suspicious nature;
� Witness states that towards the end of the day, the immediate restaurant area, is a quiet area with nor many people about;
� The witness notes that with regards the disappearance of Madeleine, there is nothing else he can add or comment on that would clarify the motive of the disappearance.

By the accounts of the friends of the McCanns, Gerry's absence was much shorter than that indicated by our Russian friend, but that is scarcely surprising. His duties would have been, primarily, in the kitchen and it would have been no part of his remit, or indeed, business, to keep tabs on the comings and goings of guests. I'm sure he recollected events conscientiously and to the very best of his ability. That he should be slightly awry with his times is really neither here nor there.

More than that, while the Russian kitchen worker has Gerry at the restaurant at 2200, when Kate raised the alarm, the Portuguese waiter lends credence to the notion of regular checks on the children.

http://justice4mccannfam.5forum.biz/mad ... -t1009.htm

viv said...

oh and Hope, let us not miss the source of this startling revelation, Madam Rosie's blog, what's up Rosie, is big brother really in the sh!t after all. Well you tried Hun, pity you did not try so hard for your little niece, you disgusting creature. Sorry I think I got that from you!

xx

viv said...

New titles for Rosie's blogs;


The pink one: Philomena gives Gerry's accusers a lashing

and the other one ( a forum where you can even complain about what I write, hence it is nearly empty): The disappearance of my niece, Madeleine, an entirely biased view by Philopastry (guesswho)

viv said...

Blogger Mum21 says:
Viv. many of us on the Justice for McCann family know what is going to happen next.....can we ALL be McCanns?

No dear you are just a pretentious racist Bum and Philo's bestest albeit one and only friend. You share the aggressive racist streak, a good basis for an enduring friendship!

I would say again, if you know what is going to happen next why don't you tell the police, oh you don't like the police do you or Justice for a little girl called Madeleine, you don't like children at all, do you?

Zodiac said...

Hi all,


I remember watching the interview in the thread above. I also remember the look on Philip's face when she agrressively said this:

'buy hey the gloves are off, these people are imbeciles.'


RP I accept your compliment:

'Oh dear I see thicko Zodiac has reappeared.

I think she has been looking for her brain cell, what a pity, all that time wasted, she still didn't find it. Talk about a 'fart in a trance' PMSL'

As you suggest I have only one brain cell. Could you please tell me where I have been because I was unaware I had gone away to re-appear? Well I must have posted something near to the truth in the past two days something you do not like. It must be hard for you to cope especially as you do not have any control over free speech now unlike the DE! What a shame those DVD's and Rog. Int are in the public domain for anyone to view for any one with one brain cell to educated themselves regarding the mysterious disappearance of a vulnerable then 3-year old little child left in a holiday flat whilst her parents went off for drinks, dinner and to be with their friends. Well GA's book will soon be available in English just imagine people lying round the pools throughout Europe reading this book and chatting about their views. Just imagine some people looking at someone lying on a sunbed reading the book and thinking hey I did not know there was a book about this disappearance think I'll get a copy. Well if you are thinking that the possibility of blocking publication of the book on British soil will stop the book being available it won't. The world is a big place and books can be purchased worldwide.

What a sad rant from those who claim they care about the missing child. Reminicient of the DE when April 08 was supposed be the month that the world would be shocked and Portugal's tourist trade was going to suffer because of it. Mmmm odd is it not that the hatred posts from them have started again. I saw one on Joana Morais site yesterday and will not be surprised to see many many more.

Zodiac said...

'Reminiscent'. Sorry only have one brain cell so be kind to me.

viv said...

Hiya darling

It is nice for us insane, thick, imbeciles to have this nice little place to congretate isn't it.

BTW RP, can you tell me why you fixate on this solicitor word and tell me where I have ever, ever, mentioned that word, copy please:-)))


There you go making assumptions again, that is for me to know and you to wonder really isn't it but thanks for the compliment!

xxxxxxxxxx

LittleGreyCell said...

OH BLISS, OH JOY!!! ROSIE'S BACK!!!

Good morning, Rosiepops, long time, no reading rubbish.

Rosiepops, if the McCanns are innocent of all criminal involvement concerning the disappearance of their daughter, why would they need anyone to 'run the Daily Express'???

Innocent people don't usually need a damage limitation team - especially before they become official suspects!

And you know what else is funny, Popsie? Two things from the interview Philomena gave on This Morning:-

1. Aunty Phil's sudden moral devotion to 'honesty' in revealing to the whole country on national TV that Kate was the main suspect and not her own dear brother. (I've heard of the mother-in-law from hell, but the sister-in-law from hell is a new one on me.

What did Gerry give you for Christmas? How to Stitch Up Your Brother's Wife? (Available from all bad stores in Rothley).

2. Philomena touchingly seemed to be more worried about the 'perpetrator' being "out there laughing that they’ve got away with this."

Erm, shouldn't you be more worried about what he might be doing to your niece, Phil??? And whether or not your niece was still alive???

(Oh, btw, a little good news for you this morning, Philomena - have a butcher's at today's Mail:-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1118084/Dying-patients-denied-drugs-obese-425-NHS-diet.html

I take it you'll be donating your 425 quid to the fund???)

Do give my regards to Mark. Has he remembered where he left his sense of humour yet?

Zodiac said...

Hope wrote: 'Would never have put RP down as news seller "EXXXXPREEESSSSSS GEEET YER DAILY EXXXXXPREEESSSS"..'

Hope my one little lonley brain cell is making me LOL at the above!


Hope wrote: 'I still hold on to the fantasy that some sad lady took her and Madeleine is safe well and happy somewhere nothing would make me happier..'


Hope just imagine that the above was the situation that the vulnerable little child who mysteriously disappeared, whilst her parents were at the Tapas Bar eating, drinking and socialising with friends, found herself in. The child who was left in a holiday flat with her two 2-year old siblings tucked up safely in bed, when then only 3-years old herself with no adult supervision. Now the child lives with whoever has taken her and that person loves and cherishes her. She grows up and perhaps whoever is responsible for her abduction (what abduction?) happens to be very well educated and in the mountains where it is isolated he/she/they educated the child themselves. What would that grown up abducted child think of the DVD's, the Rog Int's, the photo's of her parents smiling, laughing like they have won the lottery on her 4th birthday, the staged Punch 'n' Judy pics of the happy family that have just had their daughter/sister abducted by an organised paedophile ring and all the Press/Media information from around the world regarding her disappearance? Of all the air and print time not one message to their child, plenty mentioning of money though. The 48 questions her mother did not answer the refusal to return to take part in a reconstruction etc. I wonder what that grown up child would think? I also wonder what the grown up child would think if she really was being held within an organised paedophile ring and somehow when she was older managed to escape and discover her real identity would think?

Wizard said...

Wow – WW3 has broken out. This confirms something big is about to break very soon!

Cláudia said...

Oh my, my, my.
Bad day for Poops and the rest of the gang constantly saying 'poor, innocent João and Leonor Cipriano'. Poops, know how to read Portuguese? No? Oh, tough! PMSL!

hope4truth said...

Hello ALL

They all know what is going to happen next ooooo how smug they are bless their evil little cotton socks...

Unless Madeleine is found alive and unharmed the whole bloody lot of you can go to hell she is after all the victim and I agree with Zodiac what would she make of her parents I think she would proebly hate them for allowing this to happen and then covering their own backs for a year and a half before going back to look for her...

Then there are the twins god knows what they will make of their parents behaviour when they are old enought to read the files and look at just how happy Mummy and Daddy were a few days after their big sister went missing...

This blog is in trouble??? Why is that then???

I think each of the happy tapas are scum for the situation they left their childern in night after night no better than a person like Karen Mathews they should all have thier children on the at risk register to make sure they dont do it again (because they all behaved in the bounds of reasnoble parenting) in thier opinion in mine they are child neglectors...

All those confilicting time lines and statements lie after lie about Murrat and they want us to belive that Madeleine is really missing...

Well if she is the lot of them should rot in hell because that is exactly what they allowed to happen to a 3 year old child who deserved to be protected and if really missing deserved the TRUTH not much to ask for...

We all know it was Kate and Kate alone that is to blame her inlaws told us...

Spin away you evil people what is wrong with the TRUTH??? If the TRUTH is she was taken god help anyone who did not speak it....

Oh and for the record while LGC is on Troll told me people were not who they said they were and not my friends (very choosey re friends and have plenty) well I have decided you can have on line friends and I am proud to be here with mine...

And if LGC is anything to go by she is exactly who she says she is and has become one of my very best friends over the last year and I would not have that any other way...

hope4truth said...

WW3??? have to go will read back later xxx

LittleGreyCell said...

Thank you Hopey! The sentiments are very much returned! X

(So relieved you haven't noticed I'm really Philomena McCann!!!)

Wizard said...

Rosiepop et al, well if they are family members they have lost a neice and there is a good chance that other family members could be charged. Both of these reasons are very, very sad for any family to bear. If they are paid to write the things they do shame on them because professional they are not. It is one thing to put your point across and completely another to be rude and vindictive against those who do not agree with you.

Hey guys we have seen this all before, the frantic activity by McCann supporters it’s never when something good is about to happen is it – it’s to distract from bad publicity of their employers.

Wizard said...

LGC - Hold on a minute how can you bee Philomena McCann - I am.

Wizard said...

Viv,
I’ve just been reading Bugalugs on 3A suggesting that the re-opening of the case may avert an inquest where difficult questions could be asked of the T9. When someone goes missing do you know how long is it before they are presumed dead and an inquest is held. So what I am asking is do you know if Bugalugs suggestion is feasible.

link

LittleGreyCell said...

Room enough for the both of us to be Philomena, Wizard...you scratch my back... :)))

LittleGreyCell said...

Oh and btw, Wizard, thanks for that link.

Good point about Gerry flying to Faro instead of Lisbon.

Perhaps he just wanted to visit his old haunts (this could explain why he looked like a ghost of his old self on that interview).

Wizard said...

Your right LGC - pound for pound lol

Zodiac said...

(So relieved you haven't noticed I'm really Philomena McCann!!!)

LGC,

LOL! Stop with the wit you guys my lonely little brain cell cannot take much more of LOL!

Thanks for the Bugalugs link Wizard off to have a read.

Niki said...

Good evening all:-)

Sorry, haven't read back so hope I dont duplicate;;


Leonor Cipriano changes her statement and says that her daughter was killed by the uncle, 16 January 2009

Leonor Cipriano changes her statement and says that her daughter was killed by the uncle Lusa

16 January 2009, 13:05
Thanks to Astro for translation

Leonor Cipriano changed her testimony concerning the disappearance of her daughter, in Portimão on the 12th of September 2004. In a witness statement that she signed at the prison of Odemira yesterday, Leonor Cipriano accuses her brother, João Manuel Domingos Cipriano, of being the author of the child’s death.

Beforehand, they intended to simulate an abduction and to send the child to Spain, in exchange for money. This process did not work according to plan and ended up being transformed into a homicide that was carried out by the child’s uncle.

The Public Ministry accuses the child's mother and uncle of being the authors of Joana's death and of entertaining an incestuous relationship and that Joana's body, which remains missing, was dismembered.

Leonor Cipriano's lawyer will make a statement this afternoon, after the testimony, which is eight pages long, is delivered at the Court of Faro.

This revelation is made on the day of the trial of alleged aggressions against Leonor Cipriano by Polícia Judiciária inspectors.

Joana's mother, Leonor Cipriano, and her uncle, João Cipriano, have been condemned by the Supreme Court of Justice to 16 years in prison each, over the crimes of homicide and concealment of the child's cadaver.

hope4truth said...

Niki

Leonor said her brother murdered her daughter???

That cant be right RP and her band of munchkins say the PJ have set Leonor and Joao up... Joana was abducted just like Madeleine was her Mother had nothing to do with it....

When is the world going to get back to normal when children are seen as wonderful gifts to be loved adored and respected and above all cared for???

Not murdered by the people they trust most in the world and then have their memory trashed by people defending the indefensible, spinning and lying the poor childs life into the gutter and turning the abusers and killers into the victims....

Poor little Joana she deserved so much more from the world...

viv said...

Niki et al

Thanks for the interesting revelations on the Joana case, so they wanted to have her abducted that went awry and they murdered her! Well the McCanns certainly picked another good case to fixate on there as part of their, ahem, defence, much like the case of Zapata!

I do remember Philopastry or whatever her name is insisting in among her countless thousands of posts this was a terrible miscarriage of justice and the poor innocent creature, her mother, was badly beaten and wrongly put in jail by the wicked Goncalo. Well in UK law and I am sure Portuguese is not much different here, on the basis of what she now chooses to admit to, she is every bit as guilt as the one who did the foul deed and very rightly deserves 16 years in jail. You can try and change your tune now Philo but you did say she was going to be freed and you are an idiot! You are a supporter of murderers and child abusers, not an accolade I would personally enjoy.

When people have been caught red handed,those with a criminal intent, do you know what they often do, start making threats! Suddenly rather than hating the police you know them all, oh really! You are a failure and struggle to fit on your chair:-)) Struggling with the spelling of Rothley is not going to convince anyone is it you "stupid creature" ROFL!!

Wizard

Has Tony come up with a new user name in his continuing attempts for self glorification? I just wonder because parts of that post are quite well written. An inquest in Portugal for a child they have never managed to find was never an option and could have no bearing on this case, IMO!

I have seen TB publish "emails from concerned journalists", I think he wrote that too! Sad really but this case will be resolved at a far higher level than either myself or Tony Bennett! He needs to remember that I think.

viv said...

LGC, thanks for doing the decent thing and fessin up to being the real Philo, you know how confused I get, silly me, I should have realised she was right here on this blog all the time. Cannot look further than the end of me nose:-)))

I must say though you did a brilliant job in hiding all those aggressive thoughts, hatred of the police, need to support child abusers and murderers, you even sounded quite nice! Well done you!

xxxxxxxxx

Wizard said...

Hi Viv,
Thought it too good to be true.

Cláudia said...

Viv, Leonor is lying. Joana died inside the house, it was proved in a court of law and she has been convicted for it. Joana did not die outside the house and far away from her eyes as she is saying now. But she finally admitted that Joana is dead, which we all knew, of course, except Poops and her mad gang (they also knew it, but it suited their agendas. As for Poops' opinion:

Rosiepops said...

(...)
I believe that Leonor Cipriano will have an appeal in portugal and will win that appeal, I believe that this poor woman is innocent and this means her daughter is still out there and her abductors are still free and are probably carrying out their acts today unchallenged.

(...)

01 April 2008 22:36

viv said...

Hi Wiz

The admissions of Leonor are a crippling blow to Team McCann I think because discrediting Goncalo was a major plank of their campaign. Clearly he has just been seriously vindicated in putting this creature behind bars!

Now it seems to be trying to link him with silly Tony Bennett. I am sure Goncalo will avoid that because it is not at all difficult to discredit Mr Bennett, he did that all by himself!

xx

viv said...

Sorry Claudia, I was not aware of the detail, merely her admissions that she was party to a serious plot to dispose of her little girl.

But thank you very much for that quote, I will either make a new post for that or put it on the side of this blog, she is not going to live that one down. Can you email me!!

Luv ya hun my favourite justice seeker!

xxx

viv said...

In fact darling that quote has an eery similarity to what Philomena said above, does it not!

I think we should do a comparison!

Rumbled Philalorryload xxxxxxxxxxx

Supporter of child abusers and murderers !

bath theory said...

Someone has got itchy knickers and it is not you Viv. The cage is rattled and the lady is salivating with sheer spite again.

viv said...

BT I think the lady hath an unnatural love for her little brother!

xx

bath theory said...

As you know Viv my tea leaves hath be saying that for many a full moon !!

viv said...

How clever of Philo to flag it up, what a formidable lady! Does she tremble or does she cause it in others? I think very much the former!

Di said...

Oh Viv


Rumbled Philalorryload ..LOL

That has made me laugh..

viv said...

Di, I never did lose that naughty sense of humour did I, thank goodness!

They are still on the side of anti police/let's hope they get a good kicking etc:

Criminal thugs!

Anonymous said...

Read all about it, Read all about it,
Amarals trial restarted today!
Oh blobby I do hope you get your kicking, you deserve it.
16 January 2009 17:24

Cláudia said...

Viv, PMSL!
As for the quote, I also put it on my blog. Just a little something for Poops, 'cause I've been neglecting her (I'm sure she's used to the neglect) a bit lately. :-)

Di said...

Hi Viv

Would tht be the pink Mr Blobby!!

viv said...

Hiya Claudia

Well I do not think we should neglect this creature, but she has now reverted to inane rubbish with a
Scottish accent, so we only have to give her a few home truths to sink her back down into that massive chair. As for Gerry, I think she put that look on his face again. He gets done up in his best suit and goes and sees his top criminal lawyer and she starts spouting the filth and upsetting us again, not helpful Philo! We do not need to neutralise you, I suspect your brother will!

Di, I think we will have to put the Pink One in a blobby suit, he is so full of hot air. Leave the lawyers to defend the McCanns, there's a good blobby, you just convinced people they are every bit as bad as the Wests you silly little man xxxx

viv said...

Mum21 said...

Cláudia said...
Viv, PMSL!
As for the quote, I also put it on my blog. Just a little something for Poops, 'cause I've been neglecting her (I'm sure she's used to the neglect) a bit lately. :-)

Friday, 16 January 2009 21:26:00 o'clock GMT

I would not gloat yet Clawd...I have it from a Portuguese insider that there is more to come. In fact I have been told far more than you have quoted.
16 January 2009 21:46


Claudia darling be very afraid, Bum has established a direct link with a Portuguese "insider" that must be Leonor PMSL. We know you love child abusing murderers Bum, you really do not need to spell it out! xxxxxxxxx

Cláudia said...

Viv, I suspect Bum and I share one source. ;-) But I'm sure she would love to share the 'other' one. Don't you think? ;-)

Leonor and João Cipriano send their love and appreciation for Poops and Bum. :-)

hope4truth said...

Hello

Blimey Mum and co all know what is comming next I have heard that before over and over and over again (yawn)...

What the evil sods dont seem to understand is nothing matters except Madeleine and if she was really taken by a Peadophile a year and a half ago the poor little girl will have been through hell and may well now be in heaven because Peadophiles are sick evil bastards who wont see her as a human being but an obgect to abuse how they wish...

All these smug bitches talk about what they know and saint kate and gerry this and that and it makes me sick...

I cant imagine how anyone would feel knowing thier child was truly missing it is imposible to imagine the grief and pain...

To have people doubting your story and blogging against you is evil who would wish to kick a parent when they are down?

Gerry and Kate after the first couple of days were not down though were they I have seen the joy on their faces over and over in pictures and that is not right?

But the pros have seen the same happy snaps of their heros they know that Kate refused to answer a single question for Madeleine and also know Gerry said he would not either?

They never searched once for Madeleine which is just not normal??? I was in Asda earlier and a little girl was missing her Mother was running around shouting her name assistants were calling for her and everyone was looking for a brown haired 4 year old. She cant have been gone for more than 4 minutes yet everyone was searching and then she was found round the corner crying for her Mum who was by this time in tears hugging her and telling her not to let go of her hand again...

Yet Kate went back to the Tapas Bar leaving the twins alone in an unlocked room told her tale went back to the apartment with her tapas pals and not one of them thought enough for Madeleine to go and look for her or enough of their own children to check they were still home alone...

I could not give a stuff if Gerry and Kate are cleared of all charges Gerry has gone back a year and a half too late to work with the police?

So whatever you have heard unless Madeleine is a happy 5 year old child who has been on a fun adventure I could not care as this neglected child is all that matters...

dylan said...

Ew! Guys - please don't talk about Philo's knickers! I've eaten rather too much chocolate tonight and I'm feeling distinctly sick now!

So, so glad that evil Cipriano monster has fessed up. IMO, 16 years is not long enough. In this instance, life should mean life. What a revolting pair.

So it would seem that Bum and Psycho want it both ways. Very, very quick to dispel that they are friends or relllies of the Gruesome Twosome and just as quick to say that they, somehow, know what is going to happen next!! What a bunch of morons! I think that Poops got her crystal ball all twisted up in her very spacoius undies!

Hope, you carry on just as you are, you have always been heartfelt and say just how you think and feel. There is nothing 'Hapless' about that.

Zodiac, you are one of the most intelligent, calm and collected people that I have had the pleasure to read.

Viv, clearly you have struck a chord with the anti-children gang. What a pity they are tone deaf!

Poops and Bum, Laura is doing very well now - thank you for caring. She has blossomed into a lovely young lady and is so happy and contented. I have no worries about her safety or people posing a threat to her, other than Troll, yourself or Bum, who made it very well clear that you were out to get her. Sick.

Catch you all in the morning.

Goodnight and sleep well. xx

viv said...

Well you know Claudinha I think Bum is doing her Jane Tanner impression, I know what I know I know what I saw, yes yes Jane you were walking up the hill and you saw Gerry carrying Maddie and Gerry was in a position where he could look straight at himself doing that, you know he had his back to you. Dear oh dear, I think the police had a right laugh with her and her oh so suggestible little batch of memory cells. Bum is that you are Mum21 to? tee hee!

I will tell Claudia that she writes much better English than you could ever pretend to do, but there again, she is not a liar and a fantasist, that helps:-)))

Mum21 said...

Viv said..
Claudia darling be very afraid, Bum has established a direct link with a Portuguese "insider" that must be Leonor PMSL. We know you love child abusing murderers Bum, you really do not need to spell it out! xxxxxxxxx

Friday, 16 January 2009 22:16:00 o'clock GMT

Spiv...you are even thicker than I thought. But if it keeps yours and Clawd's tiny minds happy...then carry on.

I know what I know...trouble is, you don't know what I know.

Oh, and tell Clawd it is source....not surce
16 January 2009 22:37

Cláudia said...

Hi, Viv!
I have a little message for Bum. She can have it translated by her SOURCE (I don't know how my English would be if it wasn't for her. Her linguistic abilities in several languages are a matter of envy to anyone) :-)

Querida peidolas, não passas de uma velha feia, muito feia e muito triste, que não sabe o que é uma boa cambalhota desde o terramoto de 1755. Vai levar onde o sol não brilha, que isso passa. Ou talvez não.

Have a great day, everybody!
xxxx

viv said...

Well as best as I could translate Hun, ROFL. A suitable message for one who likes to interfere in the course of justice and is both smooth and well serviced:-)))

dylan said...

Hi all,

Hope you are all having a fab Saturday.

Poor old Bum eh? I'm not sure I want to now what she knows. Ie., the dark and nasty machinations that go in in her head. Anyway, whatever it is that she thinks she knows is likely to be bugg*r-all. Either that or she think she is being very clever, when in fact she is so transparent.

Bum, FYO, as Docmac has tried to educate you all before with, to no avail; Claudia's spelling mistake was a typo and is entirely separate from that of a poor grasp of the English language. We all do it and it is usually a sign of intelligence, in that our minds are thinking ahead, rather than on the task of menial things such as keyboard skills. No wonder you never make typos ;-)

Viv, I dreamed of Resumay last night. I think I have been single for too long!!!

xx

Zodiac said...

'I know what I know...trouble is, you don't know what I know.'

Hi all,

Glad I popped in for a read PMSL @ above tosh! Wonder if Bum has kept her good friend RB who lives up the road from her in the loop and discussed her info over cream tea with him at their local posh cafe 'One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest' where all the important people in the know hang out together!

Dylan,

Thanks for you kind words. My lonely little one brain cell is so grateful to you also when I was reading your kind words I was so inspired I produced another brain cell and now it has a little mate!

Wizard said...

Hi Zodiac,

Wow you now have two brain cells lol. Steady on - people will be calling you Duocell not to be confused of course with Duracell. 'One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest' well I agree with you there great description.

Di said...

Hi all

The gales have just hit here in Wales, it is extremely scary. It went from a breeze to full force in just a few minutes. I have never seen the sea so wild.

Batten down the hatches, the forecasters have got it right this time.Take care everyone.

hope4truth said...

Hi ALL

Thanks for the warning Di it is getting breezy here will go and bring the bunnies in early today I dont want the wind to catch their ears and watch them flying into space...

Mum and her Mrs Branson LOL silly cow Richard has not been banging a drum for them since he offered help at the begining in fact he is a real family guy and you can see how much his children mean to him. He may still belive the abduction story but IMHO he felt for two parents who were in the worse place they could be in and offered to help as he is a nice guy...

But anyone who has read the statements and seen all those pictures of them laughing in it up must wonder if they have a heart?

One of the things that really gets me is why they have not pushed the reward money every chance they had? If Madeline is in the hell they say she is she will be deep underground but the constant reminder of Millions of pounds would convince the most evil bastard if not involved in the snatch to call and hand her over???

At least Gerry can afford 4* hotels out of the fund heaven forbid he had to stay in a dump like the MW place in PDL their apartment looked bloody awful...

xxx

Zodiac said...

''their apartment looked bloody awful...'

Hope,

My thoughts also. It also looked a dangerous place for 3 little children then aged 3 and under with adult supervision never mind leaving them unattented whilst they fill their faces with wine and grub and of course be with friends at the Tapas Bar. Oh and she had a shower whilst the little ones were also left without adult supervision and could not remember if the door was locked or unlocked when DP called to check she was OK.
Very responsible parenting, not!

Di said...

Hope/Zodiac

Exactly, the first thing anyone would do is push the reward money have they, no.

Would any parent leave the door unlocked with a swimming pool outside, I don't think so, but I have never believed the doors to be unlocked anyway.

Hope flying bunnies LOL.

Zodiac said...

Wizard,

It feels good from having one brain cell to now being duo-cell. Although when I only had one little braincell it could even understand that leaving 3 little children aged 3 and under alone in a flat to go and eat and drink at a Tapas Bar with friends was dangerous and not what some would like to pass off responsible parenting.

Zodiac said...

BBFN

hope4truth said...

Di

It is getting very stormey here now the bunnies are safe in their cage in the Conservatory and send their thanks as they know their big ears are like glider wings...

Zodiac hey at least you have a brain cell those horrible stone steps and a swimming pool near by is no place to be leaving the kids in an unlocked apartment while you have a shower let alone sod off to the bar now Kate and Gerry may be really clever but they have no common sense what so ever...

xxx

viv said...

Hello guys

have you seen Bum's latest message, she knows some good news about Madeleine and we are not going to like it.

Well the most fantastic piece of news is that the McCanns did not kill Maddie they took part in her abduction and now Gerry feels the need to be a little more co-operative and explain why he KNOWS she is alive. That is actually news that we would really rejoice in Bum.

The other piece of news about Madeleine is that actually she is dead and rest assured we would not rejoice in that, although we would be very happy about her killers being brought to Justice. The Portuguese police were only investigating the McCanns as being involved in either her homicide or kidnapping, so come what may it cannot be good news for you, because you have never been on Maddie's side have you? You have taken part in writing the most appalling filth about people on a blog that purports to be about little Maddie and you are quite disgusting.

xx

Cláudia said...

Well, Viv, the ONLY good news about Madeleine would be that she is alive (however you look at it she cannot be alive AND well, obviously. If she was alive (although I don't believe it) that would be the best news ever and it would make many, many millions of people incredibly happy, especially those who have spent the last almost two years fighting for her (instead of her parents). Unless Bum is going to produce Madeleine alive, her news cannot be good.
However, if she knows something about Madeleine, I would suggest she contacts the Police. And I am so generous, I can help her in the contact and make sure she gets the message across quickly and to the right people. A phone call away! ;-)

viv said...

Hiya Claudia

Well it just shows what a perverted idiot she is, if she had good news about Madeleine, i.e. she is alive, I think we would have heard about that rather than an annoucement on some obscure little blog, quite possibly run by the sister of the man who knows exactly where his child is and exactly what happened to her. Is he going to come clean Bum, that is the only good news there could be about Madeleine! If you know that you should immediately go to the police! Why would you be so secretative about the recovery of little Maddie? You are just stupid!

viv said...

oh lol secretative, it is a new word specially brought into the English Dictionary to describe the Gerry McCann phenomena or philomena go away and shut up you are gross or whatever!

Actually Philomena has gone quiet, did some close family member arrange her abduction. I mean Gerry can get the UK government to do him big favours, you know get MI5 to drive a large skip to remove the offending item and crush it:-))))

hope4truth said...

Hi

The only news that would be good news is that Madeleine is alive and better still alive and well...

If this is the news Mum has then I am delighted but if this is the news and they know where she is why are they still collecting money for the fund?

If it is Gerry and Kate are sueing someone else the PJ another paper or me I could not give a damn because I think Madeleine is dead and the fact she was not given a decent burial and has been tipped out of the picture so the people who neglected her and have never searched for her, lied or refused to answer questions could become the victims which no decent parent would allow to happen as any decent parent would not want or allow this to happen because the only thing that would matter would be finding your child and helping every person who asked a question by telling the truth not refusing to answer a single one...

So here is to Mums news because it can only be the dogs got it wrong and she is alive with a lonely woman who has treated her like all small children deserve to be treated she should not have taken her but in her mixed up mind she thought it was the best thing to do as her parents were not there to care for her as they should have been...

Nothing else that evil child hater has to say could upset me because the way Madeleine has been treated by them all there is nothing else left to upset me. Although to be fair Gerry spending money that was supposed to find Madeleine on 4* Hotels is pretty discusting is her news he has bought a villa in PDL with a pool and 7 en suite rooms so he can retire and write blogs all day about how wonderful life is post Madeleine...

Cláudia said...

Viv, I could even help Bum get in contact with the right people. It would be so easy and perfect. And I wouldn't want any credit for it. I can already see the headlines: Bum crack(s) it! :-)

viv said...

Oh so after all your silly lies and bravado, you don't have any good news about Maddie at all, do you. You are on all the family's side, well tell us something we don't know.

"try to remember they are a family unit" - how utterly perverted is that? The police believe she is more than likely dead, her father claimed she was in the hands of a "bunch of Portuguese Paedophiles" but you want me to remember they are still a family unit, with this poor child who has just disappeared without a trace.

How much of a family unit were they in PDL? Well I will tell you shall I? Her parents wanted to jog and play tennis all day. They could not even be bothered to take part in friendly breakfast, lunch, beach parties with their children and the rest of the group. From first thing in the morning they dumped their children in the creche. On sufferance they had them for an hour or so whilst the creche was closed and then dumped them back in there, every single day. Kate asks Maddie on her last day oh are you sad you didn't get taken to the beach like all the other children? On sufferance they manage to have their children for a few hours in between creche closing and when they could dump them in bed, oh and then just like a happily family unit they claim they left them to cry every single night and never even bothered to lock the door.

Now don't you dare tell me again about this happy little family unit!

Do you honestly believe all the disgusting filth you and Madeleine's aunt have written about people who are genuinely concerned about what happened to Madeleine would endear her to you? What a sick, bitter, twisted old woman you are! Children do not feel hate but if they do, I would suggest it would towards a mother who just shrugs off a little girl saying "mummy we were crying where were you", by just going and doing the same thing again, resulting in, according to Kate and Gerry, Maddie getting abducted. Now that could well be the source of considerable hate, particularly if she got to see the pictures of her "parents" having such a great laugh a few days later on her 4th birthday. Her mother who just refused to answer police questions that would help in finding out what happened to her. Children do feel hatred when they grow up towards parents, like that!

Who are you Mum21 to and how come you never mention your own child? I could hazard a guess!


Mum21 said...

Oh, and Spiv....I am on all the McCann family's side...including Madeleine and the twins.
The difference between you and me is I do not split the family down the middle...with Madeleine on one side and her parents on the other.
Try to remember they are a family unit...no matter what.
Do you honestly believe that printing terrible things about Madeleine's mother and Aunt on your blog would endear you to Madeleine. To be perfectly frank...she must hate your guts. And so will the twins when they are old enough to read the things you have written.

And you have the nerve to accuse us of writing terrible things...talk about pot, kettle

Cláudia said...

A family unit? Bum must be talking about Madeleine and her baby twin brother and sister. They were certainly a family unit. Left to fend for themselves while mummy and daddy laughed, ate, drank and relaxed without a worry. After all, what was there to worry about? Two and three year olds are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves. At least in the minds of the child neglect supporters.

hope4truth said...

ALL I can say is when the twins read all the statements in years to come and see just how happy their parents were a few days after their sister had been taken by a monster they may hate their parents...

Why would they hate me it is clear to anyone Kate and Gerry let their children down even after Madeleine had told her that she and Sean had cried and no one came. Sean will learn Mummy loved him so much she dumped him again...

I wonder what other memories they will have of their childhood if they ever have cause to speak out against their parents will Mum insult them and try and shout them down until they worship their parents?

viv said...

Hiya Both

Well Bum is just the right age to have a son around the 40-45 mark, I wonder if he is on the sex offenders register?

She has become a bit of a one woman crusade on there I notice!

xxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Hope. Just to let you know that in fact, D. Pedro Palace, the hotel where Gerry McCann stayed is a five star Hotel.

On a lighter note, today I had the best cappuccino ever. Something they call Frappe Cappuccino. Absolutely delicious. And I'll find out how they do it. Oh, and one of the kids lost two baby teeth, the poor thing.

hope4truth said...

Hi Claudia

Just been out to collect my daughter....

5* all those children who sent in their money for Madeleine will be pleased her Dad did not have to sleep anywhere unsavory...

xxx

Cláudia said...

Hi, Hope.
Just finished translating a few very depressing pages of an article.
Yes, it has certainly been a long way from that very affordable week and rather common apartment in Praia da Luz.
xxxx