I have to say this forum is the most boring I have ever come across, apart from the clear suggestion here that Claudia is leading the pro McCanns! No wonder we stopped getting on...lol! How irritating of me to keep pointing out the McCanns would want this because it would demonstrate their innocence, it is the British Police they have to fear. Then there is "Zodiac" who always insists the Portuguese retain "primacy". It did not escape my notice Clarence Mitchell likes that word. Well they can just shut up now because I have been proved to be correct British Police are in charge of these British criminals and they are investigating them and always have been. I sometimes wonder if I could count on one hand the number of genuine forums who are actually against the McCanns.
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So what is it Claudia, are the McCanns and Goncalo in cahoots to see how many books they can sell?
You have gone very quiet on Missing Madeleine, things not suiting you dear?
PS I have still got all the lovely emails you sent me xxx
and I have got some lovely ones from Bren and Ambersewer too xxx
What a corrupt world some people inhabit, still it will all come out in the wash, London Met style!
How to spot a pro pretending to be an anti, if they say they want the case re-opening in Portugal, as Gerry himself does, they are most definitely pros.
Then they set up another forum to rip into each other, what sick stuff.
"child neglect" "accidental death" I really do not think so!
This is exactly what the McCanns complain about, no further investigation was done in Portugal, Claudia says that is why Goncalo Amaral was taken off the case. I am sure that was not the reason at all!
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Claudia79 on Mon 08 Feb 2010, 6:12 pm
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Surely the final dispatch of the PP, which by the way, he did not sign, is his opinion based on the investigation and is no more valid than the report made by Tavares de Almeida or the book by GA. Another PP could have arrived at a completely different conclusion. So, it all comes down to opinions! The report of the PP is in no way the final word on the case and the only way that can be done is by reopening it.
It should be pointed out that after GA was taken off of the case, nothing was really done in investigating the case and surely it is obvious that no new evidence was uncovered to change the course of the investigation and the conclusions arrived at in September 2007. Nothing was uncovered to exonerate the McCanns and the lifting their arguido status was a purely a political decision and not a result of the investigation.
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There was no investigation after GA was taken from the case. Which was why he was taken off the case. So no more investigation was done.
Who is Claudia's best pal, Docmac.
After No 9 there are no more, pretty pathetic all these campaigns and petitions and email the Prime Minister and whatever.
Go London Met and mop up all the sick people who just want to cashin on a little girl.
JUSTICE FOR MADDIE
The main threads for comments are of course the News of the World ones, but I think Claudia deserves this, I have kept quiet for long enough and am heartily sick of all these rotten people at the top and the bottom of society.
I would say it is not just very difficult to re-open the case in Portugal, it is downright impossible really because there was no stranger abductor, it was Gerry McCann, that makes it a UK job.
"There is no political will to reopen the case" 24horas/SOSMaddie
Gonçalo Amaral says that the authorities wanted to abandon the Maddie case
Duarte Levy
25 February 2009
Translation by Nigel Moore
The former PJ inspector, who led the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, is strongly critical of the Portuguese and English authorities (so are Kate and Gerry McCann, they also think there is no political will to do what they say, strange that)
In an interview recorded in Vigo, Spain in October last year, but only now revealed, the former coordinator of the PJ, Gonçalo Amaral, accuses the Portuguese authorities of not having the political will to reopen the case and the investigation to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
"The political will does not exist; there is no political will to reopen," accused the man formerly responsible for the investigation and added that "when a process of this type is archived, with so many diligences to take care of, with so many facts that needed clarification, that's because there was no will to continue the investigation and that was clear when we left the investigation on the 2nd of October."
To Gonçalo Amaral, there was a clear intention of the Portuguese authorities to abandon the investigation and "it will be very difficult for the process to be reopened."
In the interview, available on video on the internet (http://joana-morais.blogspot.com), Gonçalo Amaral reports the existence of "situations in the process which in our opinion have not been taken into account, which have not even been read or became known to those who had the duty to know it," stressing that the declaration of the couple of British doctors, that refer to a holiday in Majorca, where they saw the "gestures and words indicating the existence of a child molester within that group of people who were on vacation", were not taken into account before the process was archived.
To Gonçalo Amaral, those responsible in the public ministry should have read the details of the process, adding that he "cannot believe that they read such statements and passed over them."
UK accused of blocking
The author of "Maddie: The Truth of Lie," a successful book that continues without an edition in England - on the objective of cooperation with the British authorities - also accused those at the "top of the English police hierarchy" of having blocked the progress of investigations.
According to the former PJ man, on the ground, collaboration with the British officers "was very tight, very intense," but things have not progressed when it came to the hierarchy.
The Case is confidential in England
During the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, the British police were "invited" to sign a document of confidentiality that prevents them today from talking about what happened in Portugal or in England, a procedure that is not normal for police in England. "It is normal in cases with the secret services, and that document is signed right at the beginning. Now with normal police, undertaking a criminal investigation, that doesn't happen," said Amaral.
The former coordinator of the Judicial Police of CID in Portimão goes further and notes that it was Stuart Prior, one of the most important officers of the British police sent to Portugal, who said, regarding the evidence collected against the parents of Madeleine, that "he had arrested people in England with much less."
Oh, but it is normal for British Police to be bound by the Official Secrets Act, that is the way police should operate, confidentially. Otherwise they help the suspects, but I am thinking that is what the demands are for, what strange places they come from!
Hi Viv
Yes, I am sure many people have been arrested here in the UK with much less evidence, maybe they even got to court just for the whole case to collapse.
None of us surely want that, we want a watertight case that has those responsible for Madeleine's demise brought to justice.
Hiya Di
Well I am sure that in spite all of the manipulative behaviour in relation to this case, which is beyond bizarre, London Met can cut right through that and just focus on the vital and relevant evidence, getting these people into court to answer the main case against them, they got rid of Madeleine and have been fraudulently cashing in ever since.
xxx
I would like to see a video of Gerry when he is asked, why did you take two sets of photos of Madeleine on holiday with you, photographs where she is obviously at different ages and looks entirely different, what was your rationale for that? Did Madeleine actually support Everton? Well I could go on but you get the gist...!
The final online edition of the News of the World is as boring as ever.
Not one word, one mention of the McCanns or Madeleine. The massive reward they drummed up has just been airbrushed away and left as just a memory of this terrible media circus concerning Madeleine, with her vile parents at the helm. Gloomier times ahead for them now.
Their "Campaigns" page features Sarah Payne and her mum.
I suppose they know when it is time to steer clear.
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/notw/public/pub_campaigns/
Hi Viv and Di,
A slight change of direction but I was just looking at an artist’s impression of a Japanese courtroom where the killer of Lindsay Hawker throws himself before her parents. Déjà vu – it reminded me of a scene from Amaral’s TV film where the Mcs were on the bed, as if praying to Allah, and wailing.
In the Japanese scene today’s Mail comments, ‘In a Japanese courtroom, the killer of Lindsay Hawker throws himself before her revolted parents. Why? In a cynical bid to avoid the ultimate penalty for his unspeakable crime…’
Hmm…
Hiya Wiz, It is curious to know why Gerry threw himself on the floor and wailed as he approached the GNR who had just arrived. Then the bedroom scene sounds pretty similar.
I cannot imagine having to act out when I had just got rid of my child, but I suppose one would feel the need to just wholeheartedly get into theatrical mode. I think psychologists have commented, the more involved they became in other matters (i.e. engrossing themselves in admin to find Maddie) the better they would feel.
These days I do think they have toned the theatricality down a little, but do recall that in 2008 when Kate was doing a really good one (in the nice white top with the American style masses of makeup look) he just sat there literally smirking, he really cannot help himself, it is all one big game to him and conning others clearly gives him a kick. Wow, I am not in my little tenement block in Glasgow now, look at me, on the telly, people lapping us up! What a sicko!!
WE will be lapping him up on the telly as they cart him off with his silver bracelets on. Roll on!
I read some bloggers saying they were wailing on the bed because there was something unpleasant in the wardrobe they wanted to keep from the police. Words simply fail me sometimes!
That is a pretty subtle way of calling the Portuguese Police complete plonkers actually.
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isar Today at 1:12 am
Claudia79 wrote:
Isar, I have been discussing this case for almost four years. I will not repeat my views, which I expressed hundreds of times, for you. Get it now? Now an important question? Do you like being a part of this 'joint'?
straight question - straight answer ..yep-- it's a good joint..some colourful characters/new perspectives..
but folks with KNOWLEDGE about the case should go to the authorities - non ?
one question that seems to be being dodged at every turn
Well said Isar!
Oooh I am so upset, poor Maddie is not coming home, what a load of %*(()^% these two tricksters come up with. And they think they are clever with computers too :-)))
Pity Isar did not say dogged at every turn, that would have been even more amusing. But I fear that is another good poster who simply will not talk the required talk. Adios!
One thing I will say for those lovely dogs, they sell books xxx
You would think with a name like Missing Madeleine, this was a pleasant site where all shades of opinion are welcome and Madeleine's legal status as a missing person would be respected.
But no, if you do not agree with the board Mafia that she is dead Madeleine, the dogs say so, you get the bully team on your case, and then, as with all of the really good posters, they get thrown off the place.
The display recorded above by Claudia tonight with her trusty lieutenant joining in the mauling was just sickening.
I think they should get one thing straight and call that site Dead Madeleine, The Dogs Say So, and if you don't agree DO ONE.
Still at least they did one from here when they were informed the dogs was but one theory to be discussed on here, it was not going to take over as, ahem, fact.
I admire Isar and many others who are prepared to put up with this downright nastiness where there should not be any, to expose them for what they are and remember we do not know what happened to little Maddie, and maybe, just maybe, she is still alive. Those who put their own self interests ahead of a defenceless little girl, by running a site full of socks and bullying those who are not, are vermin in my opinion.
I have always found it interesting that with all these big sites, you can talk about Madeleine's apparent dead body and what they apparently did with it, in the goriest sickest detail that you can think of. Not that there is any evidence to base all this gore upon.
But do you ever get Claudia or Bren or any of them on the subject of the Gaspar statements and the possibility of Madeleine being sexually abused and kidnapped. No, that subject is taboo.
One theory could be they want you to keep talking about the dogs and how dead she is so that you do not talk about the reality. That is what PR campaigns are for after all, to completely change the subject. And then of course, Goncalo Amaral and Kate McCann both wrote best selling books, and the dogs certainly loom large in them.
It has to be corrupt people who would just take a couple of working police dogs and weave them into a best seller for greedy criminals.
I am sure that was not what they were trained for.
Brilliant! For open and honest opinion like this however, they hiss at you "Pro". What a bunch of perverts! Still they are popping out rather less frequently these days and will almost certainly be proved to be wrong by British Police. I think Isar believes the last one is the answer, as I certainly do myself, and so does the Portuguese Prosecutor, Mr Menezes, not this his view suits their agenda but he is the most qualified person of the lot of them to tell us the facts.
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The dogs alerted to what was put in front of them in Luz
Grime did his little dance and got paid by the British police for it
Levy got the rights for the fillum and flogged it to the Sun for 100K
A little while later Grime and his wonder dogs went ashore Jersey
they found a coconut shell
And trousered 97K for their efforts
NO DOG-LED RESULTS IN EITHER LUZ OR JERSEY
facts-nasty/upsetting facts
but facts nevertheless
give me a list of 150000 questions - please argue with the above first
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isar Today at 3:46 am
[quote="Antoinette"]Ill ask one other question Isar and will leave you to figure it out. Why did Kate Mccann refuse to answer the questions put to her by the Guardia when she was made Arguido. Just incase you dont know what these questions are here they are for you. Im off to my bed so will see your answers tomorrow
In fact, I know these unanswered questions by heart
Madeleine might have woke and wandered-plenty of building work round the church at the time - the sea a 2 minute stroll away-even for a bairn
Stranger abduction - from an unlocked 5a - possible
Non-stranger abduction - from an unlocked 5a - a doddle...especially if Madeleine had known her 'spiriters away'----check WoC/Justice Hogg
Good night-nice to have done battle with you guys..it's all in a good cause I hope
Antoinette apparently believes that refusing to answer police questions means you killed your daughter. God help anyone who got her for a judge!
Many serious criminals do refuse to answer police questions but the police usually know what the crime is they are questioning them about. To an honest observer it was always clear that both abduction and murder were being considered as ways in which they were involved in the disappearance of their little girl. The only offence they were actually cleared of was abandonment, i.e. they did not believe that something happened to Madeleine as a result of her being left alone. Neither do I, it has always seemed that was the McCanns way of insisting a stranger took her whilst they dined.
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