24 Feb 2008

As the second of the articles from the Guardian below confirm what was immediately being fed to the press in PDL at the time was contrived and controlled. We saw Gerry McCann immediately reading a prepared "script". How come he could not just talk spontaneously and his sadness at the loss of his daughter and appeal to the public for help? This control freakery he always displays has made the public, quite rightly, highly suspicious from the outset. Given all this control freakery from the outset.. how odd then, that here we have a report of Gerry McCann himself checking the children at 9.30, not Oldfield! Given that it clearly has been so contrived and controlled, why have we had so many conflicting stories about who checked the children and precisely when? These lies are quite rightly at the heart of the police case and their need to interview certain TAPAS members, yet again, prior to finally assembling the prosecution case which must surely see other TAPAS members, particularly OB and Tanner named as Arguidos. Oldfield appears to have agreed to have falsely stated he checked the children at 9.30 - I think it is highly likely that if he was prepared to admit that was a lie - which the police can prove anyway due to other witnesses, he may avoid prosecution himself by becoming a prosecution witness. This fits with Docmacs account that it is him who has gone to the police via his solicitor to change his story. Far better to do this than give up his fantastic lifestyle living in a £1M pad in Surrey. Surely, he would reason, he is not going to give that up and go to prison, for the sake of Kate and Gerry McCann once he realised the game was up. Who would!


~Viv x

Q&A: Madeleine McCann
Steven Morris in Praia da Luz, Portugal
guardian.co.uk,
Tuesday May 8 2007

This article was first published on guardian.co.uk on Tuesday May 08 2007. It was last updated at 16:41 on May 08 2007.When did Madeleine vanish?
Between 9.30pm and 10pm on Thursday. Her parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, were dining at a tapas bar in a Mark Warner resort around 100 metres from the apartment where Madeleine and her twin siblings were sleeping. The McCanns checked on the children at around half-hourly intervals. Mr McCann checked at 9.30pm, but when the couple returned at about 10pm, Madeleine had gone. A pool, hedge, wall and alleyway are between the bar and the apartment.
How could a kidnapper have got into the apartment?
There are three likely routes. The bedroom in which Madeleine was sleeping has a window with a plastic shutter and a door leading to a narrow car park and a quiet residential street. This side of the apartment cannot be seen from the tapas bar. At the back of the apartment, which can partially be seen from the bar, are French windows. These were the doors the parents were coming in through when they checked the children, and may have been left unlocked.
Were the doors or window forced?
Members of Madeleine's family said the shutter on the street window was forced, and police have fingerprinted it. However, the Mark Warner holiday company said there was no sign of a forced break-in. A kidnapper could have come through the street window and left via the street door. It is unlikely he or she would have entered or left via the French windows, because they face the tapas bar and the rest of the complex.
Do the police have any suspects?
At the weekend, they seemed to say they had a suspect in mind. However, it became clear earlier this week that this was not a named person but a man who witnesses had seen acting suspiciously. A sketch of the man has been made but not published - normal procedure for the police in Portugal - but it is not a clear image.
Why has so little information been published?
The Portuguese police claim their judicial system makes it impossible to release information for fear of prejudicing any future case. However, Madeleine's family are known to be frustrated at the way the investigation is being handled. It was their decision to make the direct appeal to any kidnapper and to release details of what Madeleine was wearing - the police had not done so.
Has the search been thorough?
Many people, including some family members, believe not. Criticism that the police did not even begin searching immediately, however, seems unfounded - officers and members of the public began a search as soon as Madeleine was reported missing.
However, there is scant evidence of an organised, exhaustive search. Neither border nor marine police were given descriptions of Madeleine for many hours after she vanished, and officers have not been seen making extensive door-to-door inquiries.
What about the police investigation?
Again, it appears unsatisfactory. The scene has not been secured as tightly as it would have been in the UK. Passers-by are allowed to go right up to the shutters of the window that Madeleine's parents say were forced. The lack of appeals for help and information has upset the family and surprised police experts.
There have been suggestions that the police are hiding behind the idea that they cannot release information because they might prejudice the case. Article 86 of the Portuguese processo penal says information must not be released, apart from in exceptional circumstances. Nevertheless, the lack of information has created a vaccuum that has been filled by speculation and theories ranging from the idea that a paedophile ring is behind the kidnapping to the claim that she may have been abducted to order.

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Mechanics of the McCann campaign
Professional media management may have generated coverage of Maddy's disappearance, but it hasn't helped with public sympathy for the family
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A Media Society/Polis debate last night saw Gerry and Kate McCann's current and former spokespeople - Clarence Mitchell and Justine McGuinness - discuss the media and the McCanns with Kelvin MacKenzie, Roy Greenslade and filmmakers Roger Graef and David Mills. I should say in the interests of transparency that I chaired the event in front of a packed house at the LSE in London.
The big question set out for debate by the organisers was how well (or badly) had the press and media done in their coverage of what must surely be the most reported story of the last nine months. Consensus among the speakers was pretty negative and Clarence Mitchell was utterly scathing, accusing some journalists of peddling information they knew to be wrong or unfounded - largely for the purpose of stoking up sales. MacKenzie, ex-editor of the Sun, cautioned the audience against being too censorious on the grounds that it was their fascination with the story that led newspapers - which are, after all, commercial entities - to deal with it so prominently and frequently.
MacKenzie then went on to say two things that in my view had rather greater resonance in the meeting than any of the relatively predictable press bashing - no matter how justified. He said that the public response to his Sun column, which he said was characteristic of Sun readers (ie somewhat downmarket in demographic terms), can be huge but was overwhelmingly negative towards Kate and Gerry McCann. Having left their children alone in the apartment while going out for a good time with friends has not gone down well - with the Sun's readership at least, not to mention quite a few folk in last evening's LSE audience.
This is not to suggest that most (or even many) readers think they're guilty in any sense; more that they've been complicit in their own misfortune by being less-than-attentive parents. This more starkly than anything else, it was suggested, reveals the class-based nature of public responses not so much to the calamity of Madeleine's disappearance as to her family's efforts since. And on that front MacKenzie went on to say - even more tellingly perhaps - that in the public mind PR and truth were rarely thought to sit comfortably together.
And there's the rub. Try as they might neither Clarence Mitchell nor Justine McGuinness could quite shake off the sense that the way they've managed this case might have contributed to some negative public sentiment towards the family. In place initially as what Mitchell described as "a buffer" between the shocked and distraught parents and the world's media, hungry for news about Madeleine, it's clear that what developed was a professional media management operation. With city PR firm Bell Pottinger on hand - primarily, we can assume, to defend the interests of their clients Mark Warner Holidays - as well as Justine and, latterly, Clarence with all their experience of Westminster spin, the McCanns could not have wanted for more professional advice. But as time went on media management itself - and once you've started feeding stories to the press to get control of the agenda, you really can't stop - began generating negative reaction from other parties.
Portuguese journalists found people close to the McCanns unwilling to speak for fear of breaking an agreement that Kate and Gerry would pre-authorise anything that was to be said in public. This is standard media management in Westminster or the City but it struck some in Portugal, who thought they were simply dealing with an utterly distraught family, as so strange as to be suspicious. The Portuguese police, however slow and incompetent they might have been, found themselves on the wrong end of a very high powered media onslaught - orchestrated and facilitated in no small measure by what became the McCann campaign. They may not have been ideally equipped or experienced to deal with the case of a disappeared child but they certainly weren't prepared to find themselves up against professional media managers.
In many ways, it's hard to see what else Kate and Gerry McCann could have done; offered the same kind of assistance, how many of us would have turned it down if we thought it might help to get our missing child back? Nevertheless, it's hard to avoid at least a nagging sense of unease about aspects of the "campaign" which would appear to be reflected in what some people think about Kate and Gerry McCann.

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hope4truth said...

Atardi

I know who to look out for now and will reply to your other name (cant spell it LOL)

Anonymous said...

hope4truth,

The thing with the other name you can't spell ( you made me laugh)is that I'm using my husband's laptop. And the other name is already installed.

He has a lot of attributes from the film.

Your daughter loved the film also? The film had some educational parts in it also.

I'm from Holland.

Hope I have a whole week off!

Niki said...

When I was a child, my family used to go skiing in the norwegian mountains. On a hill, someone had painted a tree to look like a troll.
We used to have a break next to the troll, and my brother was always climbing as high as he could. My mother told my brother to get down from the tree, but he refused. She then scared him, saying the troll did not like children climbing on him.
We passed the troll, went to the top of the hill, and started the nice down-hill-skiing. My brother first, fearless as always. He came until the troll, chrashed and broke his ski!. Next day, with new ski, he did not climb the troll, but could not resist telling it:"You stupid troll, you made me fall!". On the way down the hill again, fearless and confident, he fell at exactly the same spot and broke yet another ski!

He never, ever even glanced at the troll after this...
Completly ignored it, and kept his ski and pride intact!

Goodnight everybody
Niki, 22.57 Greece

Anonymous said...

Niki,

That's a good one.

Completely Ignored.

hope4truth said...

Atardi

You lucky thing I am trying to work for a while this year and use my holidays later... Looking forward to Easter and having a long weekend...

Films certainly make you spend your money dont they.... Yes cars has educational value lots of films do these days which is good...

My daughter is really into High School Musical and has so much merchendise from the film from the cheerleading outfit to pens.

The older one stuck with the Lion King as she had Simba brought back from Disneyland by my husbands parents when she was two and although his head has been sewn back on many times at 14 she still sleeps with him and takes him on holiday... Her room has loads of Lion King toys in it and we went to see the musical a couple of years ago it was amazing...

My best friend went to Holland on an exchange when she was at college she still see's the family and the girl she stayed with is God Mother to her Daughter (I am godmother to her son)and the family allways refer to them as the Dutch it is nice they reamain close after all these years...

Have you any other plans for your holiday?

Unknown said...

Hi All

Thought you may want to see the latest report from Correio de Manha a reputable newspaper in Portugal - pleased to note the latest barmy sighting about a Portuguese couple going to an English garden centre who also happen to have Maddie, came from Clarence Mitchell...I think he is just having a laugh these days or, he has completely lost the plot.

Also they point out how odd we dont want to talk about one of the Retardos being arrested for major drug smuggling - now I wonder why UK press are leaving that one alone!

Viv x


2008-02-25 - 00:54:00

New runway investigated
Maddie seen in England
















D.r.


A former employee of the English Civil Protection ensures Madeleine McCann have seen in the company of a Portuguese couple in the village of Stratton. The authorities are investigating the complaint. Clarence Mitchell, spokesman for McCann, says that "there is much about this sighting that suggests, at worst, that this is a case of abduction."







Alan Cameron, of 66 years, spotted the girl - sitting in a car in the company of a couple - and became convinced that it was Maddie. And the newspaper 'Sunday Express' said: "She came to my house with a couple Portuguese." They were there because you wanted to buy the furniture out of the garden that are for sale. The woman told him that it was Italian but Alan says that "speaking Portuguese fluently." Also according Cameron, the girl spoke in English "perfect and clear." He was blonde and had four years, "he says, stressing that the girl had a neglected appearance and seemed unhappy.

The English press reports even if a researcher who worked for the Spanish Agency of detectives Method 3 - hired by McCann - was arrested in Barcelona for suspected involvement in drug trafficking network,

Antonio Jimenez has 53 years and was Chief Inspector of the Office of Drugs and Organized Crime Police in Barcelona. Clarence Mitchell, spokesman for McCann, says Jimenez worked with the Method 3, but "for more than two years."

dolores said...

Detective Informing McCann arrested for theft of 400 kg of cocaine

He was the one who "discovered" witnesses who claimed to have Maddie apperçu

A private detectives serving McCann, belonging to the agency Metodo 3, has been arrested for involvement in the theft of 400 kg of cocaine in the port of Barcelona.

Detective Antonio J.R. 53 year old - who works for Metodo 3 on the file of investigation in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann - held the position of Chief Inspector of the Unit for Drugs and Organized Crime (Udyco) by the police in Barcelona when of the facts. He had left the police to go directly to the agency Metodo 3, the precise time when the internal investigation had begun about the disappearance of 400 kg of cocaine in a total of one and a half tonnes , arrested on a boat from Venezuela. The Court of First Instance of Martorell (Barcelona), which has now dictated preventive prison, without recourse, Antonio JR, accused of malfeasance, corruption, bribery of public officials and criminal association illegal.

Serving Metodo 3 since 2005, the detective was responsible for special operations in the framework of investigations in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, he had in recent months travelled to Morocco and Portugal, announcing several witnesses , who said seeing Madeleine.

Enfants Kidnappes 16th Feb.,

Anonymous said...

Here is a link for the petition for anyone who is interested.

BTW the signature on it RATTY is not me! Obviously there are two of us! (Mine is further down.)

rat 21:26 GMT

PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!

hope4truth said...

Rat

How do you post a hyperlink on your posts and also make things bold???

Unknown said...

Dolores of the Pink Rose _ I think this deserves a new thread!

The McCanns employed detectives who are every bit as corrupt as they are and we need to have a look at this!

Cheers darling
Viv x

Anonymous said...

Hope

Blogger lets you use basic HTML tags, like this =

(b)bold text here(/b)
(i)italic text here(/i)
(a href = "http://www.whateveryouwant.com")hyperlink here(/a)

Except when you are doing it, use the angle < brackets not round ( ones.

rat 21:38 GMT

PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS!

dolores said...

Hi Viv
You are welcome,would have posted yesterday ,but thought it would get lost as so much going on here,at the time.
Trying to help anyway I can, to expose them.
luv D xx

hope4truth said...

Thanks Rat

Will give it a go later ( I will practice first or may just print odd words) LOL

dolores said...

Viv,
The cocaine was said to be 25 million pounds.

Unknown said...

Hiya dolores

Cheers darling - new thread on now - as you say we are about exposing their corruption. The McCanns appointed this bunch of cowboys in September and their spokesman has told us how good they are! At what?

Vivx

hope4truth said...

Viv

Just posted this on Alsabellas site and thought you should be aware as well...

Alsabella

Could not resist and just spent 10 minutes of my life I will never get back reading RPs blog...

Apart from each of them patting each other on the head and congratulating each other about how many posts they have on the blog there is nothing there..

Read Mum21s post here saying it was not them posing the discusting Annon post and then saw on RPs site that she has changed your old avatar and put the word SHITE accross it...

This lovely old lady who thinks child neglect is a good thing along with her salon buddies is a nasty piece of work but you had probebley worked this out...

Oh and this was Rps advise to Tikerbell when she visits Viv's blog...

Rosiepops said...
Tnks if you post, please remember to check and post as anonymous i you forget because you have a google account your name will come up with your post!
(I am waiting to forget to do mine one day lol)

24 February 2008 22:39

Take care xxx

ta ra said...

S'troll/Psychopops/Gerry's servile girl gang... you wrote as follows:

"Anonymous said...
May God fogive you and cleanse your evil minds

Monday, February 25, 2008 4:21:00 AM PST"

My God loves me, and will forgive you, and the evil minds you serve.

Sadly, lil children suffer because of people like you.Fortunately, there are smart dogs in Jersey unearthing the truth, just aws they did in Portugal.

Got that? You will. Wait and see.
Justice for Madeleine, and every missing or abused child.

United we stand, 2345 xo

Unknown said...

Hiya Hope4 and Leigh - great to hear from you both>

I already read Psychopops admitting on that "blog" that it posts on here anonymously - very sick person indeed and well worthy of the title Gerry McCann. Foul mouthed, sick and disgusting.


I am going to have a nice drive around the lanes and see if I can see some of my favourite badgers, owls,foxes and muntjac deer. That always chills me out.

Also I need to go get some fags and i failed to give them up!

Back laters

Luv Viv x

ta ra said...

Hooray for smart dogs in Jersey, and Portugal.
One 'Anonymouse' on this forum disingenuously pleads:"May your God forgive you and your evil minds."

Here is the news, S'troll, Psychopops, and Gerry's servile girl gang:-

God loves me, and will forgive you.
Bet on it. You are the 'betting' sort; chancing your luck; schmoosing and losing the public; playing your cynical game over the body of one poor lil dead girl.

God will forgive you. I won't.
The Courts will give you justice, but not the leniancy you so clearly expect.
See you sometime :-)

Anonymous said...

hope4truth,

I have no influence on my holidays. My holidays are planned for me. I think I'll have a long weekend also at Easter.

I thought I was the only one to pay for the merchandising after a film.

Great you are somehowe related to Holland. And that you have to cope also with 14 years old children.

We must stay in Holland because I have a daughter who plays football. She had a match last saturday, next wednesday and saturday.

hope4truth said...

Atardi

Yes films cost a fortune and I guess Cars for a boy would cost even more...

Yes 14 is a funny age not an adult and no longer a child she is lovely though and it is lovely watching her growing up. My other daughter is 12 so I have it all to come again in a couple of years (cant wait)...

Your daughter is busy with her football she must be very fit it is good girls get a chance to play football do you go and watch often?

I am off to bed I so tiered tonight... Hope to catch you tomorrow x

ta ra said...

Hooray for smart dogs in Portugal, and now Jersey. They unearth the truth.

DO NOT FEED TROLLS, as 2345, Rat, Isis, Wizard et al advise.

Best wishes all. Justice for Maddie is on the way, and may it be so for other missing and abused child if we insist, persist and refuse to desist :-)
xo
Leigh3

2345 said...

Viv,

I was absolutely delighted to flag up Eddie & Keela's great worth and well deserved publicity. It made my day to see a photo of the chap I've defended tooth and nail for months, for which I was finally banned on DE. The most hilarious post I read was Mandz claim that she knew how useless these dogs were because she trained them !!!
What a dipstick.

PJ are right, patience is the name of the game in this case; slowly, but surely truth continues to emerge ... it's unstoppable.

I agree with you that Scotland Yard is not needed in this case insofar as the expertize of Leicester Police are concerned. However, they are responsible for investigating illegal activities of Government ministers, i.e. hindering Police procedures, aiding and abetting criminal suspects and/or perverting the course of justice. Civil servants are bound by the same laws as the rest of the public.
The Police have investigated two corrupt ministers in the recent past. 10.05 a.m.

Anonymous said...

HiViv,
Cann you not ban some of the posters on this site who find it impossible to remain courteous?
Wizard 26.02.08 – 10:36am

Unknown said...

Hiya Wizard - sorry I only just spotted your post. Unfortunately I cannot ban posters but I can delete their posts and this I generally do when I spot them:-)

27.2 1.35 am

Viv x

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