28 Feb 2008

PJ BELIEVE GERRY CONTROLS KATE

Hi All, I found this article interesting going back to September confirming it is the PJ's belief, and indeed my own, that Gerry McCann controls Kate. The Examining Judge had authorised the seizure of Gerry's laptop because they were interested in emails he has exchanged with others. One can understand this, as the case has developed and we have seen the McCann campaign unfold, where Gerry appears to be using contacts to promote "sightings" of Madeleine etc. Some of this have emanated from Amsterdam where we know the McCanns have lived. Also they found it necessary, as he wrote on his blog, to visit friends there, on their European tour. What could have been so pressing that they needed to take time, whilst leaving the twins, to do this?

I was also interested to read the PJ seek letters - I have not heard mention of this before. What I do know from working with domestic violence offenders is that quite often, when they have violently assaulted their partner, and she has responded by terminating the relationship, he will then bombard her with letters, emails, texts, flowers etc. Anything in fact to try and get her back under control. Frequently in court proceedings against such men for harassment, these letters, emails etc are used in evidence against them. Of course the letters they refer to may also be to other business contacts he has e.g. the wealthy businessman friend who lives on the outskirst of Luz Geraghty who had an interest in a massive regeneration project of Leicestershire hospitals, shelved following an audit in between May and July 2007 following a massive increase of some £200M in projected costs.

The McCanns themselves add credence to the findings of forensic evidence in their hire car by stating that they wanted to carry out their own independant tests and suggesting what was found emanated from dirty nappies and rotting meat. If they knew this report was absurd, as their supporters seek to suggest....how did they move a body three weeks later under the media spotlight...then why would they bother to answer it or get independent tests done, which were worthless anyway because all the forensic evidence has already been "swept" from the hire car. I am not sure how it can be known that officers failed to wear protective clothing and this does seem extremely unlikely, even so, they could not have contaminated the hire car with DNA from Madeleine's suppurating corpse or indeed a large chunk of her hair - so this does seem a rather far fetched claim. In the case of Dando's killer it is suggested that gun residue found in his pocket could have come from police cross contamination - this is a far more understandable claim to make - not that I think this dangerous Dando and Princess Di Stalker is innocent!

I wonder if they wanted to subject Cuddle cat to further analysis to find out whether this toy was actually a new one and never even belonged to Madeleine in the first place. Kate seemed to be doing her best to wear it in and I noted when she thought the camera was not watching Amelie was actually carrying it in PDL!

I am not sure who David Hughes is but he does confirm it was the McCanns hope to set up yet another fund to get money from the public for their defence "fighting fund". Clearly the spin was intended to persuade us all how utterly corrupt and inept the PJ are so that we would dig deep and help this poor couple...Their anger and frustration at continuing to be named prime suspects is clear enough and obviously stops them from seeking to make any more money, although clearly no stone has been left unturned in looking for way to do so. As Clarence says he speaks to hundreds of them! I wonder what Vanity Fair paid the McCanns last October and why Kate McCann was unwilling to co-operate in this interview. Clearly he does not always control her quite as well as he may wish!

Finally this article confirms the inquisatorial system in Portuguese law, where at all stages, the investigation is subject to the scrutiny of a judge who authorises further searches and seizure of evidence, advises where the PJ should be concentrating their enquiries in light of what has so far been learned. The judges function is also to look at cost effectiveness. Such an enquiry is resource intensive and extremely expensive. If he believes the current focus of the enquiry is ill-fated or ill advised then he has the power to stop the enquiry altogether. The fact that he has, at every stage, ordered it to proceed, the last occasion being on 3 January confirms the McCanns are now to face trial with the actual exhibits being seised to produce at that trial.


Viv x



By Amol Rajan in Praia da Luz and Ian HerbertThursday, 13 September 2007
The parents of Madeleine McCann are considering commissioning independent forensic tests on the hire car they used in Portugal which appears to be the main source of the Portuguese police force's evidence against them.
A friend of the family said the silver Renault Scenic was being kept in a "safe place" – believed to be a pound at Faro airport – and the Budget rental car company confirmed earlier this week that the McCanns had not returned it, contrary to the firm's expectations.
Police sources in Portugal have been briefing local newspapers that "bodily fluids" – substance created during the decomposition of body tissue – with an 88 per cent match to Madeleine have been found in the vehicle, hired 25 days after Madeleine vanished.
A forensic examination of the car was undertaken by Portugal's Policia Judicaria, but they did not seize the vehicle. An independent forensic examination would give the McCanns an invaluable opportunity to demonstrate that the Portuguese forensic examination was inadequate.
It is known that some of the officers who undertook an examination of the McCanns' apartment did not wear protective clothing, which means there is a risk that they passed on DNA to the vehicle and "cross-contaminated" it.
The McCanns emerged from their home in Rothley, Leicestershire, yesterday to spend an hour walking with their twins in a local park, in an attempt to demonstrate a return to normality. But within hours of that, Portuguese prosecutors served notice of their intent to pursue the McCanns when they disclosed that the judge considering the case had written to Leicestershire police asking the force to secure and pass on a white laptop used by the McCanns in Portugal, Kate McCann's diary and a number of letters.
"Gerry's computer is the main thing police want to analyse," a Portugese police source said last night. "They want to know what kind of emails Gerry exchanged with certain people. The police think Gerry controls Kate and they want the computer and lots of things including letters and personal items."
Police also intend to seize some of Madeleine's toys for analysis, a Portugese newspaper reported yesterday. Among them will be Madeleine's favourite stuffed animal, Cuddle Cat, which Mrs McCann has been seen clutching almost continuously since her daughter went missing, the Diario de Noticias said. A family spokesman, David Hughes, could not confirm either of these claims, but said he believed "Cuddle Cat" had already undergone forensic testing. Mr Hughes said the McCanns will not seek to use any of the £1m raised by the fund to find Madeleine to pay for their legal defence. But they may seek to set up a separate fighting fund to pay mounting legal costs from defending themselves against accusations they were involved in her death.
"Gerry and Kate's view is that if they take money from the fund, it might be that 90 per cent of people who made donations aren't bothered about it. But if 10 per cent of people are bothered about it, they don't want to upset them. They want to take the controversy out of the situation," said Mr Hughes.
Family sources suggest that an alternative fund is "one of the options they may look at" to pay for the lawyers they have appointed both in Portugal and the UK.
Portuguese law
Criminal investigations in Portugal, as in most European countries, are part of an inquisitorial system rather than the UK's adversarial one. The public prosecutor decides if there is sufficient evidence but this must then be placed before an examining magistrate or judge responsible for formal charging. The judge will either agree with the prosecutor or throw out the case. Where powers are sought to gather more evidence the prosecutor must ask the examining magistrate. Should the case go to court the magistrate determines issues of both fact and law deciding the defendant's guilt or innocence.

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Viv,

You already have 335 comments.
I think we saw the same picture of the taxi driver.

I saw it on: http://madeleinemccann.blogspot.com/

I think most people in Algarve must recognize him.

dolores said...

Viv,
I wonder if the UK police did seize the laptop,or if it is still in G's possession.If he still has it surely knowing, that PJ have made no secret of seeing this,he could easily change the hard drive,or even say the computer got lost like everything else he lost.

Luv D xx

dolores said...

Viv,
This is D.H. he also wrote an article in Reuters back in May the usual sugary tripe about them.
XX DD




We are not seeking support from the fund," spokesman David Hughes told reporters outside the McCanns' family home in Rothley, Leicestershire.

Unknown said...

Hiya Atardi

Once that many comments are on a post I tend to put a new one up. People were asking me for pic of the taxi driver so I put him up!

Dolores

If Gerry does not hand over the original harddrive the police are going to know! That would be very suspicious behaviour. Plus I think it likely Brit Police seized it long time ago as the Portuguese Judge made this order back in September. In Uk we have brilliant people working in the police who can analyse harddrive and of course recover deleted information but this is a time consuming task and I would imagine has been ongoing. I think it will now be a question of handing over the actual computer/hardrive and the results of the analysis to the PJ for use in the forthcoming trial. I see even on the Pro McCann site today they publish an article from The Times where it is acknowledged the McCanns do have a case to answer and will stand trial. They also seem to have got personality transplants. Their change in tack from the usual abusiveness is interesting but I think they are a little late to try being more open and pleasant.


Viv x

Anonymous said...

No body seems to be wanting to comment on this nasty blog anymore.

Where have they all gone to? La La Land?

(Where notdoc lives?)

2345 said...

Viv,

Thanks for the articles. The suggestion that Leicester Police did not wear protective clothing through procedures with cadavers is absolutely ludicrous. According to reports this part of the investigation was videod and presented to the McCanns at interview. 10.15 a.m.

2345 said...

Viv,

Has Ironside contacted you privately recently - something very odd is going on - well worth checking IMO. 2.00 p.m.

Anonymous said...

2345,

What's going on?

2345 said...

atardi,

I think Viv should check Ironside's name is not being used or taken in vain.

Just returned from 3 A's site - cloning's increasing dramatically.
Trolls are increasingly desperate.
2.45 p.m.

2345 said...

Viv,

Private messages - 3 A's site also being cloned. 3.42 p.m.

Anonymous said...

2345,

I'll take a look at the 3A's site.

Ironside is posting on Alabella's site and did mention having trouble logging in.

Unknown said...

Hiya I am not in private contact with Ironside and have not seen any attempt to clone him on here. I am not able to do anything about what may be happening on other sites. He is a knowledgeable and popular poster like Docmac etc and so unfortunately does get the attention of the trolls.

Viv x