22 Feb 2008

PORTUGUESE LAWYER NEXT LEGAL STEPS

I hate to confess this but I really do find him rather yummy...(!)

On a more serious note, he indicates that the McCanns could only have been held in custody if the Portuguese felt the homicide was intentional i.e. murder, non-intentional homicide i.e. manslaughter they could not be held in custody. This may explain why they were allowed to come home whilst the investigation continued. In most cases of homicide by parents on a child, the parent lost their temper and attacked the child, not intending to kill them, and so generally the charge is manslaughter.

"According to Portuguese law, we don't need to have the body to decide that it is homicide".

He gives a very clear and helpful explanation of the legal position under Portuguese law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_6980000/newsid_6988000/6988040.stm?bw=bb&mp=wm&news=1&nol_storyid=6988040&bbcws=1


Viv x

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dylan said...

Docmac, hahahaha!

Funny you should say that. I woke up on 4th May and puzzlingly found I could speak Japanese! wow!

We should ask some scientists to investigate this phenomena ;)

Dyl x

dolores said...

Di,
I hardly think 3 judges in Portugal, will be influenced with what anybody has to say on forums.The trolls are on a pointless mission.

Anonymous said...

ROGATORY LETTERS

WHERE ARE THEY?

dylan said...

Rosie,

We all quite like our deluded bubbles on this grey day. However, please try to remember that he actually does know what DNA is which makes him eversoslightly more authoratative than you on this case, doc or not. (I believe him)

PS, bodies dumped at sea, do not travel up inland waterways and get washed up on riverbanks. And the Med flows into the Atlantic. So what is YOUR field of deluded specialism then????

Anonymous said...

Read this on Joana Morais regarding the latest sighting.



http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/01/martin-brunt-reports-dna-in-boot-of-car.html

Anonymous said...

Sorry did say Di but must have hit send too quick

18.55pm

Anonymous said...

Hahahahaaa Rosiepops

Now you are getting your partner to write your posts again Psychopops. Of course you know who you really are. If you were not you would be Gascoigne'd. Why don't you just tootle off to that blog set up by the lady who claims to live in Austria and teaches all those English-literate Austrian psychologists how to speak English. Oh my, I'm a male and I almost feel like I'm going to pmsl. I hope there are no nannies about who may identify me by my shoes.

whatevernameyouwanttocallmenext

Anonymous said...

Have to say a wonderful artists impression lol

dylan said...

Ode to Dozypops....


There once was a man called Rosie,
Who's spot on the DE was cosy,
When push came to shove,
He picked on poor Dove,
And now we all know him as Dozy!

Dah.. should have been a poet;)))


Sorry, couldn't resist. Insults are not my style, usually!

dolores said...

Viv,
Just had to bring this over from 3A's
3 MILLION SWARTHY MEN SIGHTED IN PORTUGAL.
POLICE ARANGE 5 MILE IDENTIFICATION PARADE FOR MRS.COOPER.

XX D 18.58

Anonymous said...

Wow docnots littleplaythings are out in force tonight.

Those pic's need changing dot, especially the one of Croella.
That graduation pic, found where you got it from.I have put it on DE for you, under Gazza. How silly to use someone elses photo Jerk.

Anonymous said...

ROGATORY LETTERS

WHERE ARE THEY?

dylan said...

Dolores, that's brilliant!

Di - hello! I don't think I have read you here before - welcome!
I agree re tactics but I don't think they will work here. Viv knows what she is doing ;)

Anonymous said...

Dolores

Do a Michael and calm down dear.

Anyone have any further news on the arrests of Murat, Antonio and Walzcuch?

I hear from a source in Portugal that we will not hear about this for a while because the PJ are keeping the secrecy laws for a change. (Good of them even if it has taken them almost 10 months!)

Not looking good for your ridiculous killing theories is it?

Cláudia said...

Goncalo Amaral is going down and with him four others. Root out the corruption Portugal, show the world that you do not favour the bent and corrupt no matter who they are.

This man singularly responsible for the McCann's arguido status has an order in for 12 pairs of underpants per day.

Did he get a conviction for Leona and her brother by the same means he tried and failed with the McCann's? Poor Leona she didn't stand a chance and the most terrible thing is that a child abductor/killer is still free in Portugal and is sbducting children again and guess who is responsible? I hope he gets what he deserves.

You can remove this too aunty Vivvy, but it will not change the truth, the day of reckoning is near.
Someone ask Goncalo where Madeleine is, where was she when he was attempting to make her parents fit the crime, where was she when he and his men were meant to be looking for her.

Shame on you PJ you have brought shame to your country, a beautiful country and a beautiful people marred by your inefficiency and dishonesty, but it is no coming to an end. The PJ chickens are returning home to roost.

Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:16:00 AM PST

---------------------------------

lololololololololol
The idiot isn't even smart enough to disguise who she/he is! lolol Leona! lolol He/she was the only idiot who never knew how to spell it. And now he/she doesn't even have the balls to sign her/his "name". Typical of cowards who defend child neglecters, child abusers and child killers (McCanns, Cipriano, etc). lolololol The fact that they post here is a symptom of their desperation. Did all they could to ban us from DE and then, when DE shuts down its forum, they come here and post! Man, they are pathetic and stupid. lolol

Anonymous said...

Hello Dylan, thanks for the welcome, I did post occasionally on the DX site but not very often, I seemed to be attacked by the antis from the start so just kept reading mostly.

Thank goodness for people like Viv who can stand their ground and speak up for innocent children like Maddie who, if not for the likes of Viv could so easily be lost in the system of cover up!

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dolores said...

rosipotty,
Tell me about my killing theory's ,as I don't recall having made any.
Or would it be yours as you are certain Goncalo planted the blood in her (so called parents) bedroom and in the lounge, and in the tyre well of the car.Get real potty,you have lost the plot.
Nice try.

Anonymous said...

Dylan- Oh dear hear we go again I meant to say PRO MCcs having a pop at me SORRY.

One thing I cannot understand is why the other Tappas friends, who are not arguidos, have not come out in support of Kate & Gerry as they have no reason to keep quiet. If they were my friends and they knew I was innocent I would be gutted not to have their support.

Again sorry for the mishap.

lizzy said...

Hi Viv, everyone,
I think tthe best way to deal with the anon person, sad individul that he is,is to ignore him, not repond in any way ot his comments no matter what he says, as he clearly craves attention, Rosiepops did on the DE, he constantly insulted Amaral hoping for a response from the Portugese posters,personally I think if nobody responds to him it will make him look more stupid as he will in effect be talking to himself. Just a thought Lizzy 19.25

Cláudia said...

These child neglecters' lovers are really desperate! lololol This is hilarious! lololol I never knew the the DE shutting down would be this funny. Why are these child neglecters' supporters this rattled? The situation must be even darker than what I know it is...

dylan said...

Hello Di,

In that case you are a better person than me! I read the DE from around September, I think, but never dared to post as I saw how much abuse the antis were receiving from the pros who resorted to bickering and bullying.

When I found viv's site, I was really chuffed. It's a great forum and has been so very civil up until the trolls invaded. Now I find that I can stick up for what I believe, so maybe I shouldn't have been so scared!

What I believe is that the McCanns serially neglected their children and there is no doubt that that resulted in Maddie's "disappearance". I really don't understand how the pros constantly defend this.

As far as Amaral is concerned, I think if i had been interviewing a sick and twisted parent who dismembered or allowed her own child to be dismembered in order to cover up murder, I think I would probably have smacked her too.

Why is it that the pros find triumph in such sickening circumstances, such as a child's murder? - and then twist it to suit thier own arguements? Oh, and slate the entire population of another country in the process.
Bigots.

Sorry for the tirade! Dyl x

Anonymous said...

I am giving up with the Super Troll blog now. All they are doing is copy/pasting posts from here now and making pathetic jokes. Then congratulating each other on how "clever" they are. It was amusing at first but I've got bored with it now. Roll on, the Court Case! (The McCanns one, that is.)

rat 19:32 GMT

Anonymous said...

Anonymous

what's a photo jerk?

dylan said...

Hiya Rat,

What is troll's blog address? I need a good laugh!

If troll et al are clever now, must have been practising on Nintendo brain games - loooool!

Dyl x

Anonymous said...

Dolores, I hope you are right regarding the Judges.

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dylan said...

Di - don't worry about it. Lots of us are accomplished in the great typo! - me especially!

I'm glad you found us!

Dillie x

Anonymous said...

Docmac - the thickest people around are those who believe you are in fact a doctor. And you? King of the Thickies.

dylan said...

Troll - have you nothing sensible to say?

Daft question I suppose....

Anonymous said...

It will be a bloody cold day in hell before a bunch of deluded trolls get the better of me, or doc! Now run along and don't bother the grown-ups, there's a dear. Maybe Gerry can take you swimming at the Calder Street baths.

rat 19:46 GMT

Anonymous said...

To all of u sickening pros, how many of ur children/grandchildren ended up "missing"? Total, I mean.

Anonymous said...

dyl

its http://supertroll.blogspot.com

Make sure you spell the "blogspot" correctly and don't write "blodspot" by mistake, LOL!!!

Imagine being able to speak Japanese. It is quite clearly an anti-McCann conspiracy!

rat 19:48 GMT

Anonymous said...

Dyl, Totally agree with your post, We as a family love Portugal and spent many a happy year there with our children, from a very young age, but NEVER would we have left them on their own in either the hotels or the villas. During the evenings we went to several restaurants and found the children were more than welcome, in fact they were doted on by all staff and nothing was too much trouble for them. We all have very fond memories which is why I find it so hard that their country is being judged so badly by the pros and press.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous

What does "got the better out of you" mean? Is that the same as a "photo jerk"?

How do you expect anyone to take you seriously when your posts aren't even coherent?

rat 19:53 GMT

Anonymous said...

Goedenavond not everyone,

I just read Melissa Firing's Hyves.
Her last words were:

Ik hoorde dat de zaak van Dear Maddie al gesloten was.. Dankzij mij zijn die dag de grenzen, tolwegen en luchtverkeer afgezet, en is de zaak heropend. Deze moet ook open blijven !

Dear MAddie Moet trug waar zij hoort.
Dat is bij haar familie.
De dader zal worden gepakt..

En daar doe ik alles aan, om dit te kunnen waarmaken.
I Dont forget about MAddie...


Translated: I heard that Maddie's case was already closed.. Thanks to me the borders, toll roads and the air traffic were closed that day, and the case was opened again. This must be kept open.

Dear Maddie must be back where she belongs. That is whit her family.
The perpetrator will be caught..

And I will do any thing, to realize
this. (the caught)

I don't forget about Maddie.

Dear Maddie...

What do you think of Melissa?

Rori Hegarty said...

di, my guess is that all the articles have been withdrawn as there is movement of some sort,as for trying to stir up trouble i think its ironic that doby the house elfs last horrid xenophobic post on the forum may have been the last straw. they consider themelves too important , in the grand plan of things they are nothing.

Rori Hegarty said...

di, my guess is that all the articles have been withdrawn as there is movement of some sort,as for trying to stir up trouble i think its ironic that doby the house elfs last horrid xenophobic post on the forum may have been the last straw. they consider themelves too important , in the grand plan of things they are nothing.

dylan said...

Thanks Rat, just going to have tea and then will have a peruse - hope I'll be able to keep my food down!

Di - that's a lovely thing to say. I may be wrong but I believe the portuguese really love children as do other nations such as Italy. To them, children are their whole world and that's why they are so welcome at restaurants. I think us Brits should take a leaf out of their book! I used to teach in a school where there was a high percentage of Portuguese children. They performed really well, academically, as thier parents were wholly supportive and I NEVER had any behavioural problems with them. I wish I could have said the same for the local kids!

Dyl x

Rori Hegarty said...

hi atardi, 2 phrases spring to mind reading your post re melissa,15 minutes of fame and a few sandwiches short of the picnic !!!!!!!!

Rori Hegarty said...

dylan , dont do what i did when i tried to access that site yesterday. instead of blogspot.com i typed in blodspot.com. I can only say that im still blushing !!

Anonymous said...

Goedenavond Atardi,

(For those who don't know, Hyves is something like Facebook, and the most popular social networking site in Belgium and Holland)

I read somplace that she was a drama student!

In any case, she is at least a drama queen. "Thanks to me, " indeed! Proof, if any further proof were required, of another saddo looking for their 15 minutes. No wonder the poor man dragged his child away pronto.

Maybe she should be stiffed with the bill for all the closed borders and airports, or at least perverting the course of justice.

rat 20:01 GMT

Anonymous said...

Welcome former Anorak poster.

21.02

Anonymous said...

Someone very close to home is playing with you guys and its not who you think.
There was a very obvious clue, no not the spelling of Leona.

Anonymous said...

ROTB,

Thank you for the explanation of Hyves.

It was that sentence "Dankzij mij .."
As if she was the one who reopened the case.

Do you think she is naïve or is there something else going on.

You can read the whole story on www.hyves.nl. When you enter Hyves you just type her name.

Anonymous said...

ISIS, I did not see doby's last post, and I am sure you probably do not want to repeat it so don't worry.

Not sure what Anon means, any clues?

2345 said...

Dolores,

Trust those you know ... and, yes, you are trusting because you are a thoroughly nice person. In the twisted minds of some, your goodness makes your humanity makes you a vulnerable target.

Remember those that get slated are all good, intelligent people - from PJ down through to Forum members.
8.20 p.m.

dylan said...

Rat & Isis,

Thanks for the warning. Just going to have a butchers at the blogspot now....

Dread to think what "bloodspot" brings up! was that a freudian slip? ;)

dyl x

Anonymous said...

Atardi,

Dankzij mij... is very arrogant. It loses a bit when translated as "thanks to me", I don't know how you would get the emphasis right in English, but I know what you mean.

I think she is a silly, daft teenager looking for 15 minutes of fame, rather than with any malicious intent.

I'll go and have a look later on, after my tea.

rat 20:31 GMT

2345 said...

Lizzy,

You're right with your advice.
8.35 p.m.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Someone very close to home is playing with you guys and its not who you think.
There was a very obvious clue, no not the spelling of Leona.

You don't mean me, anon, do you? Because I mentioned Gerry and the swimming baths?

I can assure you I am not one of THAT camp. I grew up near to Gerry's family in Govanhill and vaguely know the family, through some other relatives. I'm not in contact with them.

It's not a secret, I have mentioned it many times before on the DX in passing.

Sorry if I gave anyone a scare.

rat 20:34 GMT

2345 said...

Three Cheers For PJ -

Sterling work in the Capriano case and brilliant work on Madeleine's behalf. Not forgetting Leicester Police and their invaluable, irreplaceable cadavers.

For anyone who's interested I watched a scientifically controlled study on labradors. This breed can detect the substance they're trained to detect at a ratio equivalent to one cent in a billion dollars.
8.45 p.m.

2345 said...

ROTB,

Take Lizzy's advice and ignore it.
You've earned the trust and respect of those that matter ...
the rest are worth nothing.

There's evil in behaviours in this case; it stems from the mind of one person and it commenced on 3 May. 8.50 p.m.

2345 said...

Dyl,

My advice as a 60 year old mother hen is beware visiting dark places, especially when enticed.

Won't you come into my parlour said the spider to the fly, it's the prettiest little parlour that ever you did spy. A lesson learned as a small child on my mother's knee. 8.50 p.m.

Anonymous said...

2345
I think you are right. If we ignore it, it will go away. Unlike the forensic evidence, LOL!

rat 20:54 GMT

Anonymous said...

No not Ratonthebeam he/she is one of the most genuine posters I have read.

dylan said...

Hiya,

Just returned from my foray into the dark side (troll's blog).

The level of paranoia on there is almost tangible. It even has a "vote" on the credibilty and sincerity of viv's blog!

I think we can safely say we are the grownups!

Docmac, i feel for you. I cannot understand why there is so much hatred and sarcasm against you. If it makes you feel any better, i did note one interesting thing about it and that is that the people who are slagged off on that site are the people who they feel most threatened by. Some very respected names from the DE were slated and us lesser mortals (ie me, who never posted on the DE and I assume they think I carry no weight by that) hasn't received the accolade of "slag factor" on there at all! despite having had a few choice words with troll!

I guess you should feel grateful as indeed you have reached VIP status in Troll's eyes!

Lizzie, I think you are right. Don't feed the Troll!

Ah well, such is life! Going to watch the Rugby for a bit now.

Dillie x

Anonymous said...

Good evening all
Well,England and France 13-7 at the mo.
I have not been aware of this blog until a very kind 3A poster made me aware of it,so not really sure what you feel about the timeline issue.What is your opinion on the theory that Maddie met her demise on the 2 and not the 3rd of May?
Goeienaand Rat,and Viv,I promise NOT too post that much in Afrikaans again

Rori Hegarty said...

di , anon means anonymous or without a name. Dyl..hope you dont see what i did!!! Major troll alert on alsabellas blog, allegedly some daft auld bat has cut and pasted alsabellas open letter to mrs healy and forewarded it to mmrs healy.

Anonymous said...

They copy pasted it on the Blog From Hell as well. Clearly they can't think of anything intelligent to write by themselves, so they are reduced to plagiarising other people's work.

It's not Martin Evans moonlighting from the DX is it? Now that he is not allowed to print Clarence's press releases anymore, from the comfort of some cosy English pub in PDL.

rat 21:05 GMT

Rori Hegarty said...

rat, i know we shouldnt feed the trolls but i most be honest , despite my good catholic upbringing with the nuns i am dreaming up recipies to feed it.

hope4truth said...

Hello

My goodness it is busy on here tonight...

Rat I miss your Avatar and LGCs but it is good to see you all here...

Yesterday there was a samll debate going on here about the Death Penelty I am against it totaly but because each side of the debate wrote without any malice I actually read and digested what was being said.

Goes to show you can have a debate if Paid Keyboard Monkeys dont keep comming back with insults.

Shame they did not think to hire some people who were polite some of us may have changed our minds instead of thinking there must be something to hide if they are screaming at us...

I had a (what I thought was a debate) with China Doll at Christmas time and she made me think until she went all weired on me and made me throw up if the silly bitch had debated she may have made me think instead of comming away paranoid (LOVE IT) and realsing what nasty people there are about...

She deserves a medal for making me realise what sick people are about and deserves the sack for not helping the cause... Oh and if she is Reina her poetry was crap...

Still no news then the French sighting made me very depresed the other night I still cant get the image of Madeleine dancing out of my head (I know it wasnt her) but for a few minutes I kept thinking if she was dancing it means she is happy so very sad....

hope4truth said...

Hey Dyl

I thought I had missed you..

Your course sounds confusing but good luck to you and if you can work out a way to help the enviroment fantastic...

Your posts tonight are really good you would have been fine on the DX (but I think I would rather be here or on Alsabella's blog)....

2345 said...

di,

The Portuguese Judges are bound by substantiated evidence placed before them, no more, no less.

The McCanns ran when FSS details were presented at interview. Innocent parents would have stayed and cleared their names months' ago. 9.15 p.m.

dylan said...

Hi Southern Cross,

Really must catch up with the ruggers but saw your post.

I tend towards thinking whatever happened, happened on the 2nd.
Maybe after the Mcs got back from the restaurant, or on their way back and I think Gerry was angry that he had been called back.

I didn't believe this until I heard that Maddie had not been seen on the 3rd at all. I cannot think of a reason why it would have happened on the 3rd because if it did, it would have had to have occurred before they went to the taps bar. If it did, and they were there, what would be the reason for the cover-up? (only reason there could be is if they sedated the children and didn't want it to show up. Also can't justify the fine mist of blood. I think if Maddie had had a fatal accident on the third, theywould have called the police and ambulance straight away without a thought about the medication.

I think the 2nd is the most plausable and accounts for the dogs picking up 2hr cadaver scent. Also don't see how they had the time to clean up and set the scene for abducion on 3rd. Kate had booked a babysitter the day before then cancelled. That suggests that the unforseen accident happened somewhere between the night of the 2nd and when the sitter was cancelled on the 3rd.

All very confusing. I don't believe what some do that Maddie was murdered. It just doesn't sit well with me.

Call it women's intuition which troll thinks we don't have! ;)

Isis, poor alsabella. What has she ever done to deserve badmouthing?

dyl x

hope4truth said...

2345

Hello I tried to read Tylersmum on the 3As but could not find it (I find the site a bit confusing as it is so big)LOL that makes me sound techno phobic... Could you paste a link for me please or give me directions...

Turn left at the coffe table and right at the TV....etc

Thanks

Unknown said...

Hey guys

Please observe new house rule - I am so impressed with Rosiepops being christened Psychopops I must insist that he gets his proper title on here in future:-)

Come on gang show some respect PLEASE!


Viv x

2345 said...

isis,

IF true, then good that someone has sent Alsabella's letter to Mrs Healy. Alsabella has the same right as anyone else to respond to Mrs Healy's comments and explain her stance on Madeleine's behalf.

Everyone's been congratulation Alsa on her extremely sensitively written open letter. People have been applauding her for it all day.

The McCanns need to get it into their arrogant heads that people have the right to free thinking and speech - globally. Commenting will continue in response to unrelenting media arenas. The same applies to Mrs Healy; Alsabella wrote a well considered and sensitive explanation to her.

The McCanns should shut up or return To Portugal without any further delay and clear their names. They're living with their own choices and have been since the fatality on 3 May. 9.25 p.m.

Anonymous said...

Isis... have been on Alsabella's site and noted the comments, running scared comes to mind, or winding us up!!

Anonymous said...

Awwwwww. Can't I use Biffo the Bear anymore?

rat 21:27 GMT

Anonymous said...

2345....Well said

2345 said...

Hope4truth,

I know what you mean. If you enter 'view new posts' top RH corner - thread topics appears - several pages. Look for Do They Have The Evidence - again there may be pages. tylersmum posted the Report on Thursday, I think.
Sorry I cannot be more helpful.
If you know how to cut and paste and can let me know in layman's terms I, in future, deliver things like the Report myself. 9.30 p.m.

Anonymous said...

Sorry 2345 it was from me

Di...well said

Anonymous said...

Try going onto the Blog From Hell now if you want to see "running scared"....

rat 21:32 GMT

Anonymous said...

Someone must have done Isis, this is how you got in. I take it you weren't wafted in from paradise?

Anonymous said...

Dylan, Hope4...

Silly me to think once that you were nice people...

Shame on you both, you have proved yourselves to deserve your place in this blog.

Anonymous said...

...and the future consequences

2345 said...

dyl/isis,

It's okay - I've unscrewed Seawitch's totally misconstrued interpretation of Alsaballa's brilliantly written open letter.
Seawitch (C - witch) is as arrogant and devious as the McCanns and there's a polite post from me waiting for him on Alsa's blog. Don't get mad, get even 9.40 p.m.

hope4truth said...

2345 Thanks for that...

If you want to copy and paste (cut means move it to another place so you want to copy) you...

Put your mouse at the end of the line you want to copy

So in the above sentence you would put your mouse after the last word (copy)...

Then hold your left hand mouse button down and drage it from the end to the begining of what you wish to copy (highlight it)

Then take your finger off the left hand button (it should stay highlighted)

Then put the mouse arrow in the middle somewhere (it dosent matter where but I like the middle)

Then use the Right button on your mouse and press it (right click)

And a list of options will come up choose copy..

Then go to where you want to paste and right click again and choose paste...

Job done...

In the address bar you basically just drag the mouse in the same way and that creates a link automatically (very clever)

If I have lost you let me know and I will try again x

21.40

2345 said...

anonymous,

This really isn't the place for the anti law, order, Police & Forensics brigade. Metado 3 are your kind of guys, thugs and outlaws. Toddle off and join them -the pay's good - there's a massive Fund and lots of kind OAP's contributed too. Get yourself a slice of real action with the cowboys. 9.45 p.m.
Get yourself a slice. 9.40 p.m.

Anonymous said...

Hi Dylan
Thanks for your reply,logical arguments and I must say,at the stage echoes my thoughts.Hope you enjoyed the rugby

Anonymous said...

Prat on the Beam

You are on the blog from hell right now, why are you running scared?

as far as I can make out no one is scared of you or notdoc or vileviv, they just pity you.

Look at the posts on here, where are they? None now vile can't nick them from the DE, she will have to try and sate her obsession with her superior (Rosie) another way.

If it were not for Supertroll's blog and the posts put on here by the anon's you would have nothing to talk about. As it is vile removes posts because she is scared of people telling her exactly what they think of her and to think she accuses Clarence Mitchell of trying to prevent free speech!

Don't make me laugh, free speech on here, forget it and this post will last around five minutes.

Can hand it you cant you Vile, but you cannot take it.

Stop complaining about free speech and don't be a hypocrite there's a love.

2345 said...

hope4truth,

Many thanks - I'll try tomorrow, must go now, and will yell again if I fail. 9.45 p.m.

Anonymous said...

2345 do us all a favour, shut your mouth and give your arse a chance.

You have absolutely no idea what the hell it is you are on about, no concept at all, but that doesn't stop you giving your deranged opinions on it does it?

Anonymous said...

What the hell was that last rant all about???

rat 21:46 GMT

Anonymous said...

Well 2345,
You are right, I completely agree with you for once.
This is the place for nasty old bats, silly bored housewives, lonely angry people, fake doctors, thickos, morons, conspiracy theorists and all other weird and wonderful people with severe mental health issues.
Have a good time congratulating each other about your silly theories and laughing at your own crap jokes.

hope4truth said...

Annon


Go to hell I have not said anything here or anywhere else that I am ashamed of...

Could not care what you think of me as you are not someone I would ever wish to converse with in the real world...

If you could debate I would have listened but when it gets nasty I realise that my opionion is probebly right...

And as for deserving my place here I will take that as a compliment I am not paid to post and until Madeleine is found or the truth of what happend to her is revealed I will reamain intrested as 3 year old children are special as all children are and they deserve to be heard...

If she was abducted the person who took her needs to be found but with all the spin that will never happen...

The thought of her Dancing in France and realising it is probebly not her is sad beyond words because it would mean if she had been taken she was not scared and I hate to think she is scared as much as it pains me to believe she is dead...

If you dont like that tough and if I have offended you because you are Reina sorry but your poetry is pants...

Anonymous said...

LOL he he he oh poor aunty Viv, you have no idea what constitutes free speech have you.


How sad you are. Can you really afford to shut people up and remove their posts so quickly?

Where are all your posters tonight? 3 a's? Alsabella's? Supertroll's? (likely) or another? many on another I hear.

Hi notdoc how are you? Managed to get any more certificates lately?

dylan said...

Hooray, me and Hope now have VIP status too!

Hiya hope. Lovely to read you again, as usual. Don't think i will ever save the environment but it will be interesting trying!

Thank you Southerncross. Just caught the last few mins of Rugby. Seems like i missed a good match!
Re 2nd vs 3rd May, maybe will find out soon. The all quiet and removal of articles etc tells me there is a storm brewing and that the PJ are playing their cars very close to their chests.

Viv - Psychopops it is then!

Have a good night all. I'm off to bed. Must be getting old to retire at 10 in the evening!

Luv dillie x

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
LOL he he he oh poor aunty Viv, you have no idea what constitutes free speech have you.


How sad you are. Can you really afford to shut people up and remove their posts so quickly?

Where are all your posters tonight? 3 a's? Alsabella's? Supertroll's? (likely) or another? many on another I hear.

Hi notdoc how are you? Managed to get any more certificates lately?

Saturday, February 23, 2008 1:51:00 PM PST

Tee hee Anon, he's on ebay trying to buy some disney stuff.
Certificates bought from net.certs.com

Anonymous said...

Err, ST and friends, just humour me: what makes a person a child neglecter/child abuser lover? Solidarity?

Rori Hegarty said...

anon, how did i get in where im not sure i understand you? Then again not very much of what you say makes any sense and never did. Havnt you got some knitting to do or false teeth to soak, so be a good little house elf and crawl back under the rock from whence you came. Your ignorance is personified by the exuberance of your verbosity. Now do one please.

Anonymous said...

Dylan

Is it not by today that the Home Office have to respond to the Rogatory Letters. They were sent on the 3rd and the HO have 20 days in which to respond. We should hopefully hear some real news soon.

rat 22:03 GMT

Anonymous said...

Why don't you tell me?

Anonymous said...

the way that lawyer-guy speaks 'English' is not yummy at all.... and if his further knowledge of the case is in line with that.....

Anonymous said...

Now who is playing cat and mouse? Or should I say 'rat' and mouse?

(The clue is in mouse!)

Anonymous said...

Night Dyl & bye all...I am off to relax, hubby finished watching match.

Anonymous said...

Isis Oh dear have you got false teeth? Is that why you thought of them? That is quite good, I would never have thought of them, but unlike yours mine are not like stars (they don't come out at night)

I bet notdoc's false teeth don't smile at him from his glass by the bed, I bet they snarl and grimace and try to bite his Pinocchio nose off!

Anonymous said...

Well 2345,
You are right, I completely agree with you for once.
This is the place for nasty old bats, silly bored housewives, lonely angry people, fake doctors, thickos, morons, conspiracy theorists and all other weird and wonderful people with severe mental health issues.
Have a good time congratulating each other about your silly theories and laughing at your own crap jokes.

SUPERTROLL
Don't forget:
All the conspiracy theories and crap jokes are made at the expense of the disappearance of a little girl and her poor parents.

Anonymous said...

That would include all the crap jokes made by trolls, as well.

rat 22:19 GMT

Anonymous said...

Well we got the better of you, prat.

Anonymous said...

You just go right on believing that, troll, if it makes you happy....

Anonymous said...

Anyone who goes to troll's blog and checks the exchanges will believe that, prat.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
On 22 02 08 2345 posted:

To my mind, Kate has all the hallmarks of an emotionally suppressed/abused wife dragged around by her 'owner' - Gerry. Which reminds me of a vicious response from canthinkofaname on DE weeks ago when I posted this observation. It hit someone hard !!

As I have not posted or even read the DX Forum for many weeks and have always generally agreed with 2345 I doubt that I would have made a vicious response. I can only think that someone else was using my Identity.

ICantThinkOfAName the Chocolate Fireman.

Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:27:00 PM PST

My time 22.30 hours.

Anonymous said...

Alsabellas letter to Mrs Healey, self-serving, self-congratulating this poor woman does not need to be told of flaws in her family, where is everyones compassion, certainly not for a lady who has lost her grandaughter.
Dillie, Dyl, Dylan so trying to ingratiate yourself to all these antis.

Rori Hegarty said...

Dear anon, havnt you got a coven of witches that you should be cackling with, have the courage of your convictions and show yourself or i may just think you are a coward. We have all kept our identities where is yours??

Anonymous said...

notdoc they know. They know who you are not, notice none of them leaping to your defence (telling)

Oh watch this space now they will after having their little strings pulled.

Anonymous said...

Aunty Viv, don't feel hurt that more people seem to want to go on Alsabela's blog, they'll soon get fed up with it.

Anonymous said...

My identity is for you to guess but there is somebody here playing a very BIG gsame, I have sussed and I am not talking notdoc here we all no the game he is playing.
Older DE should of picked up on something earlier.
I have an excellent memory for facts and info people give, and phrases they use.

Anonymous said...

Isis, why are you so paranoid who I am? I thought you knew? You said you did.

I am me and I know who I am, queston is do you?

You think you knowm but then the doubt creeps in.

Anonymous said...

2345..you said
"You're right in that nothing will change the truth. The Capriano case is concluded and the guilty are behind bars failing lengthy jail sentences.

Meantime nothing will change the truth sitting in PJ & Leicester Police files :

"An early forensic report is alleged to have mentioned a certain blood spray ... comensurate with a certain type of borken larynx ... some DNA samples found related to cerebal fluids indicates a broken neck or fractured skull".

The truth is that British cadaver and Police detected and removed damning forensic evidence of Madeleine's death. Your loathing of PJ per se is, frankly, pathetic. Your loathing of law and order is, frankly, despicable.

Your inability to grasp the realities in the successful Capriano case shows you are incapable of reading and understanding simple sentences."

The more and more I read of your comments...the more and more I laugh. You insist anyone who does not agree with you is lieing and stating false facts.
But 2345...there are no facts in the public domain..none at all.
Which means you are constantly lieing too. You have no facts on the DNA...or on what evidence the PJ do or do not have. Because they have boxes of papers on the case..does not mean they are filled with evidence.
I think you watch to many detectives stories on the TV.

Rori Hegarty said...

anon, do tell. Im agog with indifference>

Anonymous said...

Oh dear

Ex cop J.R.Antonio who is the guy at M3 in charge of 'finding' witnesses who spot little blonde girls has been arrested and placed in custody for stealing 400 KILOGRAMS of cocaine.At a conservative wholesale price of 30 Euros per gram this would have a value of around 12 million Euros. Not to be sniffed at. Well, maybe by some. No names, no accusations this time.

docmac

Anonymous said...

Isis I do not think you are a bad person...just got carried away with the vile comments.
Come to the otherside, you will be far happier.

Cláudia said...

Dear anon, havnt you got a coven of witches that you should be cackling with, have the courage of your convictions and show yourself or i may just think you are a coward. We have all kept our identities where is yours??

---------------------------------

Isis

One of the most obvious differences between the antis and the pros on DE was exactly what you mentioned. Most of the pros have always behaved in a cowardly way. They implied, they accused without naming names, they hide because they cannot face opposition (that happens when people defend what cannot truly be defended) and they hide behind the anonymous option to defend child neglecters (I actually understand them. If I defended criminals I wouldn't want people to know who I was). My question is, why are they this desperate? Lately it has been more than obvious.

Anonymous said...

Good God 2345..you could not even compete with Sea Witch when it comes to writing an intelligent and informative comment.

That poster has you well beat..in every way. Your response just made you look more of an idiot than normal. And to be honest..I did not think that was possible until now.

Rori Hegarty said...

Anon, thank you for the quasi compliment . I can assure i am my own person and will be neither pushed nor pulled by anyone. Why do all you anons not show your id, it is so cowardly to hide behind a veil of anonimity.

Rori Hegarty said...

hi claudia, its a bit obvious at this stage really, they are homeless obviously and i wont be going to the other side as i am quite happy where i am. Just waiting for the DE t publish their next madeleine article and then we will see.

Anonymous said...

2345...Don't rise...Bedtime
infants I think! Parents not knowing what kids are up to once in their bedrooms.

Bye for now

Take care

Cláudia said...

Their cowardly ways are self explanatory.

lizzy said...

Isis,
I wouldn't waste your time in responding to the anon or super troll people, they are here merely to divert attention , cause trouble and stop discussion, if you respond to them you are giving them importance they don't deserve, they would hate to be ignored. If everybody here ignored every post they made, it would be futile them coming here. Lizzy 23.30

Rori Hegarty said...

Night all, before i go have a look on sky.com at the front page of the sunday express. " I SAW MADDIE IN BRITAN" Well it was only a matter of time.

Anonymous said...

That is good advice Lizzy, if we don't feed them, they will starve!

rat 22:37 GMT

Rori Hegarty said...

Lizzy, check out the sunday express headline.. now if this is not in the on line edition then il eat opus (sorry lgc)!!!!

Anonymous said...

isis

I wonder what the SX will be putting on the front page of the online edition, then...

night night, maybe see you tomorrow

rat 23:39 GMT

Anonymous said...

The hunt for missing four-year-old Madeleine McCann switched to Britain after a man claimed he saw her with a Portuguese couple in Dorset, says the Sunday Express.
"Couple brought her to my house" says Councillor.

According to the SX. The print was too small to see any more. You will just all have to wait until the morning :(

It didn't say whether the couple were swarthy or not.

rat 23:44 GMT, and just off to bed

Anonymous said...

There is nothin more cowardly than someone that attacks others and does not even have the guts to state who they are. Oh well, cannot expect any better from people that were always complaining about Viv's blog, but cannot seem to stay away.

Keep up the good work, Viv.
Were you insignificant, they would not bother.

:-)

No news in Portugal yet.

lizzy said...

isis,
Have just seen it , unbelievable, well supose it is no surprise really. Wonder where the next one will be? Off to bed now, speak tomorrow. Lizzy 12.05

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Dolores

Do a Michael and calm down dear.

Anyone have any further news on the arrests of Murat, Antonio and Walzcuch?

I hear from a source in Portugal that we will not hear about this for a while because the PJ are keeping the secrecy laws for a change. (Good of them even if it has taken them almost 10 months!)

Not looking good for your ridiculous killing theories is it?

Anonymous said...

Oh wow, there's an echo in here!

Now that the troll is being ignored, it is just repeating itself inanely.

For anybody who is even remotely interested, it claims to have got this "information" from the Sol newspaper.

There is nothing in Sol.

rat 00:10 GMT

Anonymous said...

I also have some inside info. But it is not exactly good for the lovely doctors...

Anonymous said...

Disregards from docmac/docnot/notdoc/docrot/rotdoc/docwhat/whatdoc/docwannabe/doc holliday/plasticdocmac and all my other aliases so that were so kindly bestowed upon me by yorself and your thick cronies. What a laugh.

Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:47:00 AM PST


You forgot to mention Pinocchio!

Unknown said...

Hiya All - interesting read again tonight - great to hear from you too Alsabella. I see Psychopops just cannot resist coming hear. If the McCann child abusers actually liked me and Doc I would be very worried indeed. As it is the unbridled hatred tells me we are seriously rattling their cages for them and they are running very scared. I can guess why - same reason DE, Star, Telegraph starting pulling articles!

I really appreciated your letter to Mrs Healy which was written with your usual sensitivity and intellect. If they have brought it to her attention then that is really good news. She knows an awful lot more about what happened to her grandaughter and maybe it will help her in dealing with her conscience.

No news from Portugal just at present, is the very best of news! We always get a blackout before a major development - the calm before the storm.

Great to see that predictably now, your blog has picked up. How sad for the pro cretins they do not have a stone to crawl under anymore!



Luv to you all (almost)

Viv x

Anonymous said...

Oh dear you lot get worse.

I haven't laughed so much at you bunch of prats for ages.

You really do believe all this stuff.

Hey Pinocchio heard from the T 1 yet?

2345 your thick, thick, thick up to here.

ta ra said...

Pros? Yup. They are that, alright. They sell their souls for pittance. Poor things. 'Lost souls,' as Father Pacheco in Portugal calls them.
He wants nothing to do with them, and neither do I, nor does any kind, intelligent soul want anything to do with them.
They are the damned because they abuse and misuse other humans.
Who does that remind us of?

Unknown said...

Psycopops, You are very angry and upset - are those nasty PJs coming to take you away, or will they get Leics police to cuff you? Maybe you should demand they listen to the Retardos whose pockets you lined with other people's money - you know kind little old ladies on Income Support - did they collectively buy your nice 4 x 4 for you. Have you hit Kate again lately? I do hope not. Try not to demonstrate your rage and anger to the twins - it can be very harmful for them.

Viv x

Unknown said...

Hiya Leigh

I have certainly seen some abuse on here tonight from Psychopops but do not intend to remove it because I want people to recognise that prose and remember just what we are fighting against here - pure evil! A person that shows pure hatred to those who will bring him to justice, like the wonderful Goncalo Amaral who originally amassed all the evidence and put these two very clearly into the category of prime suspects - rightly so! Pure rage for psycho though because it stops him from all those lucrative deals he so desperately wants - remember Psychopops why not ask the Americans for £2M - they can afford it? No compunction about selling his dead little girl and no compunction about earning a good salary but robbing poor people to keep him in luxury. Sell assets to find Maddie? Hardly, the gruesome twosome increased their assets considerably, at everyone else's expense, rich, poor, they have no concern about who they rip off selling the image of their dead little girl that they killed. This will get them plenty more years jail time. Just what they deserve - then they can definitely forget the life of luxury - I hope they think it was all worth it and all their fame in the press. They will continue to get plenty of infamy on here!

Viv x

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Supertroll.
Another little post off the Gorgans site.
Poison Ivy knows a lot about Income Support as she's a benefit cheat scrounging of the state.

felicity said...
Psycopops, You are very angry and upset - are those nasty PJs coming to take you away, or will they get Leics police to cuff you? Maybe you should demand they listen to the Retardos whose pockets you lined with other people's money - you know kind little old ladies on Income Support - did they collectively buy your nice 4 x 4 for you. Have you hit Kate again lately? I do hope not. Try not to demonstrate your rage and anger to the twins - it can be very harmful for them.

Viv x

Saturday, February 23, 2008 4:33:00 PM PST

23 February 2008 16:55

ta ra said...

AnonyMOUSE.
Here's some cheese of the kind you all get fed in the McCann Machine.
Fetch!

You'll need more energy if you go on stalking docmac :-)

By the way: read any good books lately? I hear 'No Stone Unturned' is fascinating...

ta ra said...

Night night Viv, the brave.

Sometimes, I can't resist prodding the AnonyMOUSE, the 'it', the thing of someones' vile fantasy. I shouldn't. 'It' will get its comeuppence elsewhere, but mischief gets the better of me when I'm impatient :-)

Best wishes to you and yours. I hope your boy has overcome his recent illness.
See you next time. Thank you for the website.

Leigh3
xo

Unknown said...

Hiya Leigh

Well yes - just what normal parents read on holiday The Bible and No Stone Unturned - what a strange pair!

Psychopops - you are not on the Daily Express now - DO NOT KEEP REPEATING OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS AND PLEASE START A NEW PARAGRAPH WITH A CAPITAL LETTER OTHERWISE YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO YOUR HATE FILLED LITTLE MISSIVE.

Please continue to feed your hatred stalking me and Doc! We enjoy the attention:-) They are coming to take you away ha ha

The PJ are nearing the end of the process ..how terifying for you? Still gagging to read those huge files? Well tough, you will just have to wait!

Viv x

Unknown said...

Nite Nite Leigh

and thanks for your continued intelligent presence my friend. Together we are strong against the McNasties and will continue to fight for the little one.

The number of times that word vile gets used by psychopops..lot of rage going on there against my little blog. Now I wonder why!

Luv Viv x

JUSTICE FOR DEAR LITTLE MADDIE!!
PRISON FOR HER WICKED PARENTS AND ALL CHILD ABUSERS OF THEIR ILK

dolores said...

Viv,
Don't know if you have spotted this one.


A private detective linked to the agency hunting for Madeleine McCann has been arrested on suspicion of helping a gang smuggle £25million worth of cocaine.

Retired police officer Antonio Jimenez, 53, was remanded in custody on Thursday by a judge investigating the loss of half a ton of cocaine from a container docked in Barcelona in 2005.

Jimenez was a business partner of Maria Fernandez Lado, 57, founder of Metodo 3, the agency charging £50,000 a month to search for Madeleine.

Spanish police had the container under surveillance following a tip-off.

But Jimenez, then a chief inspector with the Drugs and Organised Crime Unit of the National Police, is suspected of providing vital information to the gang.

He retired from the police shortly afterwards.

The cocaine was smuggled into Spain in 974 packets on the ship Hispanota, which was transporting frozen prawns from Venezuela. It docked in Barcelona in November 2004 and the drugs were taken on January 24, 2005.

Five officers from the Civil Guard have also been arrested and remanded in custody.

A serving police officer has been arrested and released on bail.

Unknown said...

Hiya Dolores

I had seen that report. I have no doubt the Retardos are into some big crime. Really people say they moved to those expensive offices following the conract with the McCanns but would it have been enough?

How interesting they are fraud specialists - when they smuggle drugs and launder money!

I also note that Dutch girl who "saw Maddie" had come from Barcelona- things all kind of link together dont they!

Good to hear from you darling


love viv x

dolores said...

Viv,
Hope you are well cara,there is another sighting in Dorset now,a councillor,has said he saw Maddie with a portuguese couple. Itall gets sillier by the day.The press or the pink blob are treating the public like idiots.

xxx D

Unknown said...

Hiya Dolores

Maybe the Pink Shirted One is having a nervous breakdown - was it you who reported he appeared on GMTV harassed and unshaven!

Serves him bloody right!

Dont tell me they said the couple looked "swarthy" or "creepy" - I might blow a fuse!

Viv x

Anonymous said...

Hey Viv,

Do you happen to have the links to the Supertroll and blog from hell blogs?

Anonymous said...

Dolores,
I did not say Anorak had closed down, I said it had died.
Yesterday afternoon when there would normally have been at least 500 postings there were 67. Of the 7 posters - 6 were well known Pro Mccannites.
I have been there for long enough to know that the posters who count are no longer there, some like Hideki, Tony Bennett, were kicked off for libelous comment and the others just stopped posting. It became a chat club with the occasional Madeleine word spoken.
I find it very sad, it was a great forum.
I wish they had remained with an american server then perhaps they would not be as concerned with libel.

Anonymous said...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=517858&in_page_id=1770
"World Reknowned Detcetives", I think SuperTroll aka Mandz described them as, once....

...they can't even launder money properly!

Something odd going on at the Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/dmsearch/overture.html?in_page_id=711&in_start_number=0&in_query=mccann&in_restriction=&in_pub=0&in_order_by=date

I think a lot of McCann articles are one from there too, but I can't be sure.

I know it's early but my wee boy is not well, I had to get up for him and now I can't get back to sleep. Maybe I should just leave him and bugger off down the pub, as this is apparently the "responsible" thing to do. After I have changed my trousers of course.

I see we had a visit from the Old Hyppocrite tonight too, as well as Doby the House Troll, who still has not heard of a dictionary (what on earth is a "gorgan?")

They are still copy pasting your blog onto theirs Viv, oviously because they hate it so much :( Last I looked they were still arguing with somebody else over what does and doesn't show up on a feedjit (or maybe that should be eedjit) map. I could have jumped in (from London, although I am actually in Scotland) but I honestly couldn't be bothered. Their childish antics are just getting boring now.

rat 07:00 GMT

Anonymous said...

Hey Viv, can you put hyperlink in comments on here?

Anonymous said...

Looks like you can!

Why wasn't Clarence Mitchell of the Foreign Office helping this guy then?

Anonymous said...

Trawling back over old stuff. Somebody metnioned earlier the theory that the body was taken back to England in the sports bag. I personally believe (what is left of) it is still in Portugal.

>>The McCanns, of course, see things differently. "I am not sure I will ever be able to return to our Rothley home," Kate admits. "I feel to leave Luz would be to abandon Madeleine. I can never, ever do that. "<<

This was from the Telegraph in August, just before they were named arguida (and subsequently left Luz on the first EasyJet flight they could get out of Faro).

I think there might be other stuff missing from the Telegraph too. I can't find the thing I wanted, and that I know was there before. There isn't even any new articles or anything in Gerry's Favourite Comic, the Mail on Sunday.

Something is definitely up, and I don't think it's Pinko's doing. Even he isn't that powerful.

rat 07:36 GMT

Anonymous said...

A Wee Song

You talk like Marlene Dietrich,
And you look like Biffo the Bear,
Your clothes are all made by George Davis,
And they've found DNA and loose hair, yes they did....

You live in a fancy apartment,
With a big half a million price tag,
Where you keep your tennis equipment,
But you've lost your little blue bag, yes you did.....

I remember the back streets of Glasgow,
Two children, begging in rags,
All touched with their burning ambitions,
To shake off their lowly-born tags,

Now look into my face, Gerry McCann,
And remember, just who you are,
You're going to prison for ever,
Won't be driving your fancy new car, for a while...

I know where you go to, dear Gerry,
When you're alone in your bed,
I know the thoughts that surround you,
And thank God I'm not in your head.

2345 said...

Viv & Everyone,

Just glanced last night's activty.
The game plan's exactly as I envisaged; it's as transparent as the McCanns guilt.

the public are driven off DE under false pretences. People cannot comment on non-existent/deleted articles which is just one of the reasons for these tactics.

In lieu, the troll is despatched to this site and others to cause as much disruption as possible.

Yet again, the need for such bizarre behaviour confirms not only the parents guilt - underpinned by their failure to stay and clear their names months ago - it confirms that Clarences PR fools no-one.

Someone's shouting at the trolls who in turn are trying to shout us down. Liars and losers ... the lot of them .... they hate the Police and forensics. 8.55 p.m.
8.50 p.m.

hope4truth said...

Morning

Just been reading back and I cant belive that CM would allow or want these idiots to keep posting their stupid insults...

When people spout hate filled crap and try to make people out as idiots it just makes people think that the people they are so say defending are guilty. Like a child who has been caught doing wrong they talk and then shout and then rage because they dont want to be found out...

Yet these people keep shouting the insults and the more they do the more I think I am right... Oh dear Poor CM should really have found some inteligent people to post for him a few kind words agree to disagree maybe some of us would now believe all the pink shirted one says???

So now Madeleine has been seen in England well I guess it is not far from France customs must be really crap though as you would think they would have spoted her?

Actually if Gery and Kate are guilty of no more than neglect they really screwed up when they hired CM as he makes them look as guilty as hell...

Still wish she was dancing she deserves to dance and smile laugh and play such a beautiful child it really breaks my heart...

lizzy said...

Hi Viv,
Have just found this link to Portugese press cuttings on the 3 arguidos site. Thought it might be of interest.http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53176
Lizzy 9.50am

2345 said...

Hope4truth,

Tactics are the McCanns' only means of defence. If you cast your mind back the lame 'excuse' given for DM Forum was because posts were too insulting, or words to that effectc.

Don't feed the trolls - why waste time with losers?

Can you remember the name of the Portuguese man who's making a documentary on the case from PJ's and the Portuguese standpoint? The reason I ask is because after the case is finally done and dusted, and secrecy laws no longer apply, all the information in PJ's hands will be available, won't it?

I'm sure those with the money and their eye to the main chance are envisaging a blockbuster movie. All the ingredients are there - the death of a child, Government involvement, corruption and a cover up involving threat and menace. I can't recall the name of the American film about a missing child; out of courtesy it wasn't aired here. I wonder how much money this lost the film makers ? They may consider a film of this sordid case to be a sure fire money maker.

IMO the ramifications of this case will last a lifetime. 10.15 a.m.

hope4truth said...

Morning 2345

Yes you are right this will last a life time all so very sad (the film was called Gone Baby Gone I think it is out on DVD now)...

Any luck with your copy and paste???

I am off to a wildlife park for a few hours with my youngest (older daugter got a better offer and is going to pictures oh to be ditched LOL)...

Speak to you later x

dylan said...

Good morning 2345, Hope, Lizzy & Viv,

Well - surprise, surprise, the England "sighting" is NOT in the e - edition of the DX! All very fishy - opus must be having a field day LGC!

Anon - the song lyrics, is that you docmac? V good but can't get that tune out of my head now & showing my age!

Just nipping out to the shop to see if I can have a furtive read of the DX front page - very naughty I know!

Dyl x - or just to pre-empt you, Troll, how about Dyldo? Good job I can laugh at myself )))

Rori Hegarty said...

morning all, i must apologise for giving into my fun side last night and feeding the trolls, there are several of them i believe, but when the suggestion is made that i am swayed by anyones opinion i get annoyed and have always been my own person,ask my long suffering husband !! I even got an invitation to come to the other side with the promise that i would be happier. The positive thing was that i am not a bad person!! Anyway my troll feeding is over....for now. I just dont know why they have to hide behind anonimity.

dylan said...

Hi all,

I bought the DX in the end. Most of the story was on page 4 and i couldn't bring myself to flick through and not pay!

It has the usual xenphobic comments plus descriptions such as "filthy clothes", "unshaven" etc. Strangely, creepy wasn't mentioned but the parish councellor said as much as he could to make the couple out to be "dodgy".

1) How did the couple manage to get the child through customs, if it WAS Maddie?

2)IF she was abducted and IF she is still alive, to take her out in public, AND in the UK, would be a very stupid thing to do & I don't believe anyone is THAT stupid. (cruely is entirely different from stupidity)

What a waste of money.

What are your thoughts, people?

Dyl x

dylan said...

Top of the morning to you Isis!!

It is a temptation that is very hard to resist, isn't it?

It's like when a child has a tantrum. I always used to let them get on with it and they would soon learn it wasn't going to get them anywhere and stop.

I find it hard to believe that these poor little hungry trolls are actually adults. Did you dream up a recipe? I have one:

Take one pinch of sincerity,
Add a spoonful of sense,
Carefully weigh out 4oz of anti-venom
and leave in a warm place to rise...

Aunty Viv's site is a good comfortable 36.5 degrees C!

Ps how are you today?

Dyl x

Rori Hegarty said...

morning dylan, this case has become a farce and someone needs to put a stop to it. If this is clarences latest offering it is desperate,we know that he or comeone in team mc cann has exerted pressure on the DE and if this story has been allowed to run with their say so it is sad. MOreover i have always wondered why there are no pics of the mc canns in any papers,if this were an ordinary couple every paparazzo in the known world would be trying to photograph them ans imagine the price a paper would pay for those pics,so where are they ,why the high level of protection. As for the latest alleged sighting, this child is the most known face in the world so who in their right mind would papade her openly.

dylan said...

Viv,

May I be so bold to ask for a new topic?

This one has so many posts now. Your popularity is huge!

Luv Dyl (you know - the one who is trying to ingratiate herself!;) x

Anonymous said...

Hi Viv

First time posting on your site. I was posting on Alsabella's but for some reason I cannot access it anymore. Maybe someone can advise why. When I try to post the box that gives you letters to copy just has a x in it and the letters will not come up. So can you please tell Alsabella I have not abandoned them all, just can't get on to site.

I saw on her site some arse copied and sent her letter to Mrs Healy. I would have had some respect if at least they had had the guts to put their name on the posting, but no chance, they posted as anonymous.
I do too because I could not work it out but I then type my name on with is GINA M. Best wishes to you all

dylan said...

Hi Isis,

Yes, a farce it is.

It is all yet another attempt to bring discredit to the case and shameful in the way that anyone with a child who looks nothing like the parents, if they are slightly grubby and foreign, they must have stolen the child. All very disgusting.

Who will they pick on next I wonder? My youngest daughter has olive skin. (I don't & neither does her father). She also speaks fluent French and I do not but I know she's mine as I gave birth to her! I must make a mental note never to go out in "grubby" clothes. Maybe I should wear my Sunday best to do the gardening from now on!

Hi GinaM - always a fan of yours on DE, great to see you here.

What do you think about this latest "sighting" ?

Dyl x

Rori Hegarty said...

dyl, i fear that its coming to the stage where all children bearing more than a passing resemblence to madeleine will be wearing a t shirt saying "i am not madeleine". My eldest son who is 13 des noy look irish , then again most of my mothers people are from the west coast of ireland where it is said the spanish armada ran aground!! This latest sighting is just bizzare really, no date ??

2345 said...

Dyl,

Good morning. As Madeleine would not have survived the profoundly traumatic injuries indicated in Jane Hills report for BBC news, she was never going to be seen alive by anyone ever again.

The McCanns chose not to stay, or prove their innocence for removal of arguido's status.

The cold, calculated cover up planning which commenced 2 or 3 May continues by those on their payroll. Irrespective of forensics/all other evidence on PJ's files, their behaviour simply supports their guilt.

Dr Shipman's arrest, trial and imprisonment was initial due to a questioning, young fairly new female recruit in the local undertakers. She raised concerns about how many patients of his died, compared to those of other G P's. She was treated with contempt by her superiors for voicing her concerns about "nice Dr Shipman".

Her persistence (akin to people in Forums) was the sole reason others took steps and looked into what he was up to. This young girl's instinct and intelligence was right. She refused to be shouted down or blinkered by Shipman's status as a GP. She exercised her public duty; she wasn't a trained detective, but a person with good observational skills and the courage of her convictions.

PJ were wise in their deployment of cadavers, Leicester Police and the best forensic laboratories in this case. The damning forensics on file are the result of instinct, intelligence and years of PJ's experience of dealing with both the innocent and the guilty.

The McCanns are actors on a world stage with a supporting cast of amateurs. They took £1.3 m of public donations to Fund their amateur dramatics.

They were at liberty to stay and prove their innocence ... they ran and this supports guilt - 100%.
1.30 p.m.

dylan said...

Hi Isis,

I did hear somewhere that there are many Irish whos origin is Iberian. From my two forays into deep Southern Ireland, there are lots of local folk with dark hair. Also, I think that there are links between Gaelic (can't remember the proper name - is it Erse?) Welsh and Cornish bear similarities to Breton French. For example, "Pont" in Cornish, meaning bridge, is "Bont" in Welsh and "Ponte" in French. I find the movements of Europeans in terms of language fascinating. Also, I am told I come from "gypsy" stock and that the origins of the original gypsies was Egyptian and not Romanian as some say. I wish I had more time to study this and in another life, i would have loved to study anthropology. I'm rubbish at languages but like to see where the similarities are and all in favour of preserving old languages such as Cornish.

2345 - alas I sadly think too that a real sighting of Maddie is not possible. The PJ gave up ages ago searching for her. There is too much riding on this case and international realtions to give up the search for her alive if they were not absolutely certain that she is no longer with us.

Lizzy said, how nice it was to fleetingly think of her dancing. That brought a tear to my eye. I hope she is dancing wherever she is and suffering no more. I wish I could believe in a heaven.

Dyl x

Anonymous said...

Hi Dylan, you asked what I thought of the latest sighting, well sighted by another brain dead person it seems apparently had the child in his house but not the brain power to check it out properly and do something about it. Bet he didn't even take the reg No of the car. Comments like I have just made is probably the reason this story is not online with the DE, they do not want us ripping holes in yet another sighting and perhaps stopping the gullible continuing to send donations etc. Catch you later got to do loads of things today, and it is bl..dy pouring down here on the Costa Blanca GINA M

2345 said...

Dyl,

I found your post to isis very interesting - I'm of Cornish origin from both sets of grandparents but know nothing about their language or it's roots. It's fascinating, I've never heard of the word 'pont' before - thanks. 2.20 p.m.

2345 said...

GinaM,

Hello, nice to see your name again.
Isn't the latest story ludicrous?
What morons !!

Are you still on DE Forum or have you been culled along with the rest? 2.30 p.m.

dylan said...

Hi 2345,

I bought a Cornish dictionary when I went to see the solar eclipse back in '99.

Check out this site:
http://www.cornwall-calling.co.uk/cornish-language/language.htm

Cornish is a celtic language called Brythonic and has roots related to Breton, Irish and Manx (Isle of Mann).

It dates back to 2000BC. According to my family tree, I have Manx, Scottish, Egyptian, Irish and Saxon roots. No wonder I am confused about my identity!

It's amazing to think that these languages crossed such a large area, all this without planes, trains and automobiles!

I'm also fascinated in accents and local dialect. Us Norfolk folk have a few "rumn's" ;)

Dyl x

Anonymous said...

Hi all, 370 comments so far, wow is that a record, shows this is the home of common sense.

The latest sighting, yeah well ...
So the abductor is daft enough to knock on a door with Maddy in plain view, when the world's police are checking, and there's a million reward for her. Yeah right. Oh, and the abductor's priority is to buy garden furniture. I expect he brought Maddy along to see if she liked it, how considerate of him!
Has this councillor lost the plot or is this Alice in Wonderland. Clarence pleeease!
eureka

dylan said...

Eureka,

LOL, very succinct, very funny!

I've no doubt, some poor, lonely, misguided folks believe this racist c**p!

I might ask the DX for a refund. I thought newspapers were supposed to supply news?

Dyl x

Anonymous said...

Dyl
I quote "Hi Ginam always a fan of yours on DE" for christsakes get a grip woman, this is a forum not okay or hello magazine.
I N G R A T I A T I N G

2345 said...

anonymous (Re: Dyl/Ginam)

If you don't like normal human behaviour, then this is not the place for you. Try tele-sales instead. 3.40 p.m

2345 said...

Dyl,

Thanks so much, I'll get a copy. Dialects fascinate me. My cousin is married to a Norfolk guy - they pronounce vase - vaize, whereas we call it varze phonentically. My husband adores history and I think he said the true British are the Welsh. You have a wonderful mix of blood, the best of all worlds.
The intelligence of the Egyptians and their achievements is a subject of it's own. 3.20 p.m.

Anonymous said...

Oh, has the House Troll woken up?

Just a quick look in. We are off to the swimming baths (not Calder Street). Manx is very like Scots Gaelic. I was taught at school that when the Romans arrived, they colonised the middle of the country (Midlands, Yorkshire etc) and all the native people fled to the "corners" - Cornwall, Wales, Scotland, Mann, and some to Breton. That's why the languages are all similar. I don't know if this is really true but it might be. (Just to disprove it, the Scots Gaelic for a bridge is drochaid, almost the same as Irish droichead).

Must remember not to put "grubby" clothes on before going to the swimming pool with my children, neither of which look anything like me....

The scarey thing here is that people have actually elected this Clown Councillor.....he doesn't live in Brighton and Hove, by any chance?

rat 15:59 GMT

Rori Hegarty said...

2345,if you want dialets come to ireland !! nwe have irish or "gaeilge" as we call it ,in irelamd there are 4 provinces: connacht,ulster leinster and munster(best rugby played here) and each of these provinces has its own dialect. Its quite confusing when you have a teacher teaching you irish when shes from connacht and your from munster because they are so different.As for the ancient egyptians , dont get me started,i love all things egyptian hence my name. I have been there twice,pre 9/11 and it is just magical.

dolores said...

ROTB,
I wonder if this councelor knows Justine Mc Guiness, she lives in Dorset.

16.27

Anonymous said...

I copied the article from 3 A's regarding the most recent sighting onto alsabella's site. What the biggest load of rubbish. I take it the bathroom and areas these people came in contact with in this mans house have all had DNA and forensic testing and the results will be published in the Media, just like the Belgium sighting.
Zodiac

I CHOOSE NOT TO FEED TROLLS.

dylan said...

Anon,

I don't read OK or Hello, I would never chose to read OK or Hello because I'm not interested in vacuous gossip.

Obviously you are, otherwise you wouldn't know anything about the content of such mind-numbing trash.

Good day to you.

Anonymous said...

Silly Dilly
You'd be better off reading Hello or OK rather than spending every day here reading the sick mind numbing trash that is printed here and trying to ingratiate yourself to some other idiot poster.

You are dumb, pedantic,attention seeking and rather up yourself aren't you?

Your posts are boring and your poems are crap.

I cannot believe you are in university.

Please let me know which university it is so that I never send my kids there.

Do you actually have any friends there? No?

Thought so.

dylan said...

Hi Isis,

I'm really jealous you have been to Egypt & that you are lucky enough to live in the fair, Emerald Isle! I can't wait to go back to Kerry and Valentia, for the peace and quiet and lovely food. Sorry to be sooo ingratiating! )))

Zodiac - didn't think of that. One would think that Mr Councillor would have had the dogs and forensics around straight away? Or maybe he invited the whole world and his dog over first?! - shame!

Dyl x

Anonymous said...

Please let me know which university it is so that I never send my kids there.

That is assuming you will have any left by the time they are old enough to go to university. You don't share your friends' parenting philosophy, do you?

Anonymous said...

Dylan,
The Councillor maybe had a team meeting first at his home for the Pro McSpinners and had to do a major clean up before allowing the forensics team in as I believe the team all suffer from terrible diarrohea, must be due the bad diet they have.

I CHOOSE NOT TO FEED TROLLS.

dylan said...

Anon:

That is assuming you will have any left by the time they are old enough to go to university. You don't share your friends' parenting philosophy, do you?
-----------------------------------

That's an utterly disgusting thing to say.

Viv - I'm really upset. In everything that I have said in defence of my beliefs, I have never wished anyone the loss of their children.

This has got out of hand now. Is there anything you can do?
I don't like to admit when people make me cry, but this person has.

Rori Hegarty said...

dyl,dont be upset its easy to be nasty from behind a no name. You know in your heart and soul that you are a good parent so stuff the troll. Do not let them get to you as this is obviously their motive.You just keep posting your coherent posts and never mind the buzzards,they are more or less homeless now so they are looking for a place to roost ,dirupt and cackle.xxx

Anonymous said...

Silly Dilly
Two anons here,
One saying you are silly...

Other picking on first anon cos thinks its a McCann supporter and wishing it the loss of its children, not your.

Why are you still in this blog.
After all it pours scorn and bile on people who have lost a child.

Why?

lizzy said...

Hi Dyl,
Take no notice of the trolls,they are Team Mccann, nasty pieces of work, you are worth far more than them, ignore them. I do, if you don't respond they just look the sad desperate people they are. They are trying to upset you so don't let them.At the end of the day anybody who supports the Mccanns in the way they have behaved since day one, is not somebody you would have anything in common with...Lizzy 18.05

dolores said...

To the 2 trolls,
I wonder why you are here, if you do not like what you read,go to a trolls cave, where you will be more at home,with your venemous frinds,you will never change anyone's opinion, and your being here is futile.

LittleGreyCell said...

18.15

Hi Everyone,

Interesting news about the Metodo3 guy being arrested - do you reckon he's been dishing out drugs to all the people who have subsequently 'seen' Madeleine?

Come to think of it, although I don't partake myself, I was shopping earlier and thought I saw someone black and white with a big orange beak eating some fish. I'm now 100% certain this was a little English blond girl with a defect in her right eye. Do you think I should contact Metodo3 (those of them left who aren't in jail) and claim my prize?

ISIS: I've tried to explain that your threatening to eat Opus was a joke, but he won't come out from the freezer. Well, he says until the next Iceland ad's on, so I suppose all is not lost.

X LGC

Anonymous said...

You have upset each other antis,
So its wrong to wish the loss of a child on an anti, but OK to wish it on a pro?

That second anon note was directed to me, wishing ME the loss of my children. Maybe anon seeing how it has upset Dilly it may apologise to both of us.

dylan said...

Thanks Isis.

I know what you say is true. I'm way too sensitive.

Anon, nobody here pours scorn on parents who have lost a child. I feel very, very sorry for Kate, whatever happened. & yes, I am silly, much of the time but my heart is in the right place and I stand up for what I believe in, in as much as parents shouldn't leave their children. If that earns me the nastiness that has been spewed at me this evening, then I can only say that my poor, misguided, silly self, is indeed delusional to believe that there is any human decency left in this broken world of ours.

We stand on the backs of those that make decisions for us all of the time. Sometimes these decisions do wrong by the world. Sometimes they do good. In the free world, all we have is our little voices, and our parents' parents have fought and died for that. We are lucky that they did and should remember that this is why we have a democracy.

I would not like to live in an Orwellian state where thought and speech is a crime. If we did, who knows which of us would be put to death for "thinking" things. Can you imagine that?

George Orwell - how much insight you had. Animal Farm? Which of the animals are you anon?

PS National Geographic tonight - climate change. Please watch and try to tell me you don't care.

dolores said...

Dyl
Try to take no notice,this thing has a sick mind,and has probably not taken it's medicine today.
You know it's rubbish,it feels inferior because it cannot converse or debate with any form of intelligence.

luv D xx

Anonymous said...

Dylan,
The Troll lost the plot big time on alsabella's site. Something definitely wrong with it. Poor M having that representing her.
Zodiac

I CHOOSE NOT TO FEED TROLLS.

Anonymous said...

Well, well,

one of you antis wishes me the loss of my children and all you do is defend each other.

Apparently I have a sick mind because I tell Dilly that she is silly posting in the vilest blog in the internet.

But the other anon who says I might lose my children gets off scot free.

Dilly I came out to defend you, I do believe you are silly posting here and should know better, but I definitely did not wish you the loss of your child or would do so to anyone else.

You lot should put the house in order.

dylan said...

Zodiac,

I now chose not to either!
Not even a crumb! :)

Anonymous said...

Dylan,
Best thing to do is ignore. Good advice from Lizzy. Bye for now.
Zodiac

I CHOOSE NOT TO FEED TROLLS.

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