Adorable little Maddie feeds her baby sisterxxxxxHELP STOP CHILD ABUSE. FULL STOP. REPORT CHILD ABUSE IMMEDIATELY. YOU MAY BE SAVING A CHILD'S LIFE AND WILL DEFINITELY BE SAVING THEM FROM MISERY. ABUSIVE BEHAVIOUR BY PARENTS IS A RISK FACTOR FOR MORE SERIOUS ABUSE. PARENTS DO NOT JUST DO IT WHEN THEY ARE ON HOLIDAY. SUPPORT THE NSPCC. READ THEIR WEBPAGE. MAKE A DONATION. USE YOUR COMMON SENSE ABOUT WHAT ABUSE AND NEGLECT MEAN. ASK YOURSELF ONE SIMPLE QUESTION DOES THAT CHILD DESERVE TO BE TREATED THAT WAY? IF THE ANSWER IS NO REPORT THE ABUSER.
http://www.nspcc.org.uk/
Child homicides
Key child protection statistics (December 2007)
The statements in this section are based on Home Office statistics on the number of homicides of children aged under 16 recorded by the police in England and Wales together with some input in the first paragraphs from me.
The statistics below demonstrate just how often children are killed by the parents, more often than in any other case and children under five are at highest risk.
It is heartbreaking to think that in the UK every 10 days another tot will be killed by their parents.
As our poster Swedishmum has told us of the tragic killing of Engla, ten years, by a paedophile we remember the serious risk children are also at from such people. Whilst these cases are more rare it does not make them any less of a terrible tragedy for children.
What can we do to make children safer given the biggest risk they face is from their own parents? A terrible indictment on British Society, its morals, values and stance on the human rights of children..
The government should do far more in terms of educating the public to be better parents, encouraging friends and neighbours to report child abuse concerns as being predictive of greater risks of harm to children and track and monitor known child sex offenders, again clear in the knowledge that sexual abuse of children is a predictor of more serious abuse at some future stage as tragically shown in the killing of Engla in Sweden and Whiting and Huntley for example in the UK. We should be concentrating all our efforts to protect vulnerable little people who are our future and need to grow up without the trauma of abuse or worse still, being prevented from growing up at all. It is a national tragedy and we should all play a part to try and make childrens lives safer and happier.
The term 'homicide' covers the offences of murder, manslaughter and infanticide. Murder and manslaughter are common law offences, which have never been defined by statute, although they have been modified by statute.
Murder means where the perpertrator actually intended to kill or cause serious harm and where it can be proved that was his/her intention at the time of the killing by a careful consideration of the accused's state of mind. This will be considered by assessment of the offender himself and all other relevant evidence e.g. other witnesses, behaviour of the accused both before, since and at the relevant time. Many offenders who commit murder are found to be suffering from personality disorder (e.g. Psychopathy/Anti-Social Personality Disorder or less frequently Narcissism - The Yorkshire Ripper). This means they lack insight into their thoughts and actions and have no empathy for others.
The sentence in UK for murder is mandatory - life, although a judge can set the minimum period which must be served before the person can be consider for release on lifetime licence on parole. This is an important feature of a murder conviction, it actually stays with the person for life and they can be recalled to prison if they misbehave. A typical sentence actually served for murder is 14 years but in serious cases involving a very dangerous offender who it is considered would always pose a risk of serious harm to the public/their offence is so repugnant, an offender who killed a child or a policeman for example, the time served can be much longer and even for the rest of the offender's life in exceptionally serious cases, e.g. Paedophiles Whiting and Huntley, Brady and Hindley, Shipman, The Wests
Manslaugher means the perpretrator was reckless or negligent as to whether death may result from their actions.
Viv.
A particular category is 'Section 2' manslaughter which refers to the provisions of section 2 of the Homicide Act 1957, which allowed for the defence of diminished responsibility. The Infanticide Act of 1922 (amended 1938) created the offence of infanticide in the case of a woman who caused the death of a child under 12 months while "the balance of her mind was disturbed by reason of her not having fully recovered from the effects of giving birth to the child or by reason of the effect of lactation consequent upon the birth of the child"
The data on child homicides published by the Home Office are given for the year in which the police initially recorded the offence as homicide. This is not necessarily the year in which the incident took place, or the year in which any court decision was made. The Home Office data refer to the position as at 9 October 2006, when recording closed down for the purpose of analysis. Subsequent court hearings or other information received will change the figures given. Where the police initially recorded an offence as homicide, it remains so classified unless the police or the courts decide later that no homicide took place.
On average, every week in England and Wales one to two children are killed at the hands of another person 1 2 .
Each week at least one child dies from cruelty 3 .
On average, 67 children in England and Wales are killed at the hands of another person every year 1 2 .
In 2005/2006, 55 children were killed at the hands of another person in England and Wales 4 .
Infants aged under one are more at risk of being killed at the hands of another person than any age group of child under 18 in England and Wales 1 5 6 .
Almost two thirds of children killed at the hands of another person in England and Wales are aged under five 1 7
Every ten days in England and Wales one child is killed at the hands of their parent 8 9 .
"Killings of children by a natural parent are committed in roughly equal proportions by mothers (47%) and fathers (53%), but that where the child is killed by someone other than a parent, males strongly predominate"
"The proportion of child homicides in which the perpetrator is a parent is exceptionally high among infants". For example between 1995 and 1999 in England and Wales, 80% of homicide victims under one year old were killed by a parent
The proportion of child homicides 16 where a parent is the principal suspect falls as children get older. For homicides of children aged under five the proportion of cases where a parent was the principal suspect was over 70%; for homicides of children aged 14 or 15 it was a quarter or fewer 17 .
In half (52%) of all cases of children killed at the hands of another person, the parent is the principal suspect 10 .
In 2005/2006 in England and Wales, 24 children were killed at the hands of their parents 11 .
In a study into the relationship between child deaths and child maltreatment, 63% of the paediatricians sampled had some experience of suspicious child death. Of these, the most commonly cited alerting factor was inconsistent accounts (such as parents or carers changing their story), followed by unusual bruising, and the death of another child in the family.May-Chahal et al. (2004) The relationship between child death and child maltreatment: a research study on the attribution of cause of death in hospital settings. London: NSPCC.
In 2005/2006 in England and Wales parents were the principal suspect in 24 child homicide cases (44% of all cases).
A further 13 children (24% of all cases) were the victim of suspects known to them (i.e. other family member, friend or acquaintance).
12 children (22% of all cases) were the victim of strangers 13 .
As of October 2006, there were no suspects for 6 (11%) of the victims.Coleman, K. et al (2007)
On average, 11 children per year in England and Wales are killed at the hands of strangers 12 13 14 . This equates to an annual average of 16% of all cases of children killed at the hands of another person 14
Footnotes
1. The reference to 'killed at the hands of another person' is based on Home Office statistics on the number of homicides of children aged under 16 recorded by the police in England and Wales. Reducing homicide: a review of the possibilities. London: Home Office. p.iii).
6. In five out of seven years (1997/98 to 2003/04) the homicide rate for under one year olds has been the highest of any single year age band.
7. This is a five year average of 63% of all child homicides based on figures from 2001/02 to 2005/06. (Coleman, K. et al (2007) Homicides, firearms offences and intimate violence 2005/2006: supplementary volume 1 to Crime in England and Wales 2005/2006. London: Home Office. Table 1.07).
8. The reference to 'killed at the hands of their parent' is based on Home Office statistics on the number of homicides of children aged under 16 recorded by the police in England and Wales.
9. Home Office child homicide statistics record the relationship of the victim to the principal suspect. The figures quoted here are for child homicides where the principal suspect is a biological parent, step parent, adopted parent of the victim or the resident or non resident partner of the victim's parent. (Coleman, K. et al (2007) Homicides, firearms offences and intimate violence 2005/2006: supplementary volume 1 to Crime in England and Wales 2005/2006. London: Home Office) . The definition of 'parent' was established through private correspondence with David Povey at the Home Office.
10. This is a five year average of 35 child homicides per year where the parent is the principal suspect, or 52% of all child homicides based on figures from 2001/02 to 2005/06. (Coleman, K. et al (2007) Homicides, firearms offences and intimate violence 2005/2006: supplementary volume 1 to Crime in England and Wales 2005/2006. London: Home Office. Table 1.04) .
11. The reference to 'killed at the hands of their parents' is based on Home Office statistics on the number of homicides of children aged under 16 recorded by the police in England and Wales.
12. The reference to 'killed at the hands of strangers' is based on Home Office statistics on the number of homicides of children aged under 16 recorded by the police in England and Wales.
13. Home Office homicide data for 'strangers' as the principal suspect includes cases where the suspect is identified but there is insufficient information to determine the relationship to the victim.(Coleman, K. et al (2007) Homicides, firearms offences and intimate violence 2005/2006: supplementary volume 1 to Crime in England and Wales 2005/2006. London: Home Office. Table 1.04).
14. The figure quoted here is a five year average based on figures from 2001/02 to 2005/06. (Coleman, K. et al (2007) Homicides, firearms offences and intimate violence 2005/2006: supplementary volume 1 to Crime in England and Wales 2005/2006. London: Home Office. Table 1.04).
15. Apart from parents, the other groups from which most killers of children were drawn were step-parents, 'other family' and 'friends or ex friends'.
16. Home Office data on the number of homicides of children recorded by the police in England and Wales are for children aged under 16.17. These figures are based on a five year total from 1999/00 to 2003/04.
http://www.nspcc.org.uk/
Child homicides
Key child protection statistics (December 2007)
The statements in this section are based on Home Office statistics on the number of homicides of children aged under 16 recorded by the police in England and Wales together with some input in the first paragraphs from me.
The statistics below demonstrate just how often children are killed by the parents, more often than in any other case and children under five are at highest risk.
It is heartbreaking to think that in the UK every 10 days another tot will be killed by their parents.
As our poster Swedishmum has told us of the tragic killing of Engla, ten years, by a paedophile we remember the serious risk children are also at from such people. Whilst these cases are more rare it does not make them any less of a terrible tragedy for children.
What can we do to make children safer given the biggest risk they face is from their own parents? A terrible indictment on British Society, its morals, values and stance on the human rights of children..
The government should do far more in terms of educating the public to be better parents, encouraging friends and neighbours to report child abuse concerns as being predictive of greater risks of harm to children and track and monitor known child sex offenders, again clear in the knowledge that sexual abuse of children is a predictor of more serious abuse at some future stage as tragically shown in the killing of Engla in Sweden and Whiting and Huntley for example in the UK. We should be concentrating all our efforts to protect vulnerable little people who are our future and need to grow up without the trauma of abuse or worse still, being prevented from growing up at all. It is a national tragedy and we should all play a part to try and make childrens lives safer and happier.
The term 'homicide' covers the offences of murder, manslaughter and infanticide. Murder and manslaughter are common law offences, which have never been defined by statute, although they have been modified by statute.
Murder means where the perpertrator actually intended to kill or cause serious harm and where it can be proved that was his/her intention at the time of the killing by a careful consideration of the accused's state of mind. This will be considered by assessment of the offender himself and all other relevant evidence e.g. other witnesses, behaviour of the accused both before, since and at the relevant time. Many offenders who commit murder are found to be suffering from personality disorder (e.g. Psychopathy/Anti-Social Personality Disorder or less frequently Narcissism - The Yorkshire Ripper). This means they lack insight into their thoughts and actions and have no empathy for others.
The sentence in UK for murder is mandatory - life, although a judge can set the minimum period which must be served before the person can be consider for release on lifetime licence on parole. This is an important feature of a murder conviction, it actually stays with the person for life and they can be recalled to prison if they misbehave. A typical sentence actually served for murder is 14 years but in serious cases involving a very dangerous offender who it is considered would always pose a risk of serious harm to the public/their offence is so repugnant, an offender who killed a child or a policeman for example, the time served can be much longer and even for the rest of the offender's life in exceptionally serious cases, e.g. Paedophiles Whiting and Huntley, Brady and Hindley, Shipman, The Wests
Manslaugher means the perpretrator was reckless or negligent as to whether death may result from their actions.
Viv.
A particular category is 'Section 2' manslaughter which refers to the provisions of section 2 of the Homicide Act 1957, which allowed for the defence of diminished responsibility. The Infanticide Act of 1922 (amended 1938) created the offence of infanticide in the case of a woman who caused the death of a child under 12 months while "the balance of her mind was disturbed by reason of her not having fully recovered from the effects of giving birth to the child or by reason of the effect of lactation consequent upon the birth of the child"
The data on child homicides published by the Home Office are given for the year in which the police initially recorded the offence as homicide. This is not necessarily the year in which the incident took place, or the year in which any court decision was made. The Home Office data refer to the position as at 9 October 2006, when recording closed down for the purpose of analysis. Subsequent court hearings or other information received will change the figures given. Where the police initially recorded an offence as homicide, it remains so classified unless the police or the courts decide later that no homicide took place.
On average, every week in England and Wales one to two children are killed at the hands of another person 1 2 .
Each week at least one child dies from cruelty 3 .
On average, 67 children in England and Wales are killed at the hands of another person every year 1 2 .
In 2005/2006, 55 children were killed at the hands of another person in England and Wales 4 .
Infants aged under one are more at risk of being killed at the hands of another person than any age group of child under 18 in England and Wales 1 5 6 .
Almost two thirds of children killed at the hands of another person in England and Wales are aged under five 1 7
Every ten days in England and Wales one child is killed at the hands of their parent 8 9 .
"Killings of children by a natural parent are committed in roughly equal proportions by mothers (47%) and fathers (53%), but that where the child is killed by someone other than a parent, males strongly predominate"
"The proportion of child homicides in which the perpetrator is a parent is exceptionally high among infants". For example between 1995 and 1999 in England and Wales, 80% of homicide victims under one year old were killed by a parent
The proportion of child homicides 16 where a parent is the principal suspect falls as children get older. For homicides of children aged under five the proportion of cases where a parent was the principal suspect was over 70%; for homicides of children aged 14 or 15 it was a quarter or fewer 17 .
In half (52%) of all cases of children killed at the hands of another person, the parent is the principal suspect 10 .
In 2005/2006 in England and Wales, 24 children were killed at the hands of their parents 11 .
In a study into the relationship between child deaths and child maltreatment, 63% of the paediatricians sampled had some experience of suspicious child death. Of these, the most commonly cited alerting factor was inconsistent accounts (such as parents or carers changing their story), followed by unusual bruising, and the death of another child in the family.May-Chahal et al. (2004) The relationship between child death and child maltreatment: a research study on the attribution of cause of death in hospital settings. London: NSPCC.
In 2005/2006 in England and Wales parents were the principal suspect in 24 child homicide cases (44% of all cases).
A further 13 children (24% of all cases) were the victim of suspects known to them (i.e. other family member, friend or acquaintance).
12 children (22% of all cases) were the victim of strangers 13 .
As of October 2006, there were no suspects for 6 (11%) of the victims.Coleman, K. et al (2007)
On average, 11 children per year in England and Wales are killed at the hands of strangers 12 13 14 . This equates to an annual average of 16% of all cases of children killed at the hands of another person 14
Footnotes
1. The reference to 'killed at the hands of another person' is based on Home Office statistics on the number of homicides of children aged under 16 recorded by the police in England and Wales. Reducing homicide: a review of the possibilities. London: Home Office. p.iii).
6. In five out of seven years (1997/98 to 2003/04) the homicide rate for under one year olds has been the highest of any single year age band.
7. This is a five year average of 63% of all child homicides based on figures from 2001/02 to 2005/06. (Coleman, K. et al (2007) Homicides, firearms offences and intimate violence 2005/2006: supplementary volume 1 to Crime in England and Wales 2005/2006. London: Home Office. Table 1.07).
8. The reference to 'killed at the hands of their parent' is based on Home Office statistics on the number of homicides of children aged under 16 recorded by the police in England and Wales.
9. Home Office child homicide statistics record the relationship of the victim to the principal suspect. The figures quoted here are for child homicides where the principal suspect is a biological parent, step parent, adopted parent of the victim or the resident or non resident partner of the victim's parent. (Coleman, K. et al (2007) Homicides, firearms offences and intimate violence 2005/2006: supplementary volume 1 to Crime in England and Wales 2005/2006. London: Home Office) . The definition of 'parent' was established through private correspondence with David Povey at the Home Office.
10. This is a five year average of 35 child homicides per year where the parent is the principal suspect, or 52% of all child homicides based on figures from 2001/02 to 2005/06. (Coleman, K. et al (2007) Homicides, firearms offences and intimate violence 2005/2006: supplementary volume 1 to Crime in England and Wales 2005/2006. London: Home Office. Table 1.04) .
11. The reference to 'killed at the hands of their parents' is based on Home Office statistics on the number of homicides of children aged under 16 recorded by the police in England and Wales.
12. The reference to 'killed at the hands of strangers' is based on Home Office statistics on the number of homicides of children aged under 16 recorded by the police in England and Wales.
13. Home Office homicide data for 'strangers' as the principal suspect includes cases where the suspect is identified but there is insufficient information to determine the relationship to the victim.(Coleman, K. et al (2007) Homicides, firearms offences and intimate violence 2005/2006: supplementary volume 1 to Crime in England and Wales 2005/2006. London: Home Office. Table 1.04).
14. The figure quoted here is a five year average based on figures from 2001/02 to 2005/06. (Coleman, K. et al (2007) Homicides, firearms offences and intimate violence 2005/2006: supplementary volume 1 to Crime in England and Wales 2005/2006. London: Home Office. Table 1.04).
15. Apart from parents, the other groups from which most killers of children were drawn were step-parents, 'other family' and 'friends or ex friends'.
16. Home Office data on the number of homicides of children recorded by the police in England and Wales are for children aged under 16.17. These figures are based on a five year total from 1999/00 to 2003/04.
330 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 330 of 330Viv,
LGC and Dolores are stars.
I think you are bound to get 'rogue' members every so often.
As I said, perhaps you could have an advice section as to how you would like people to react.
Personally I have no wish to engage with Assassin or any of her incarnations ever again, I have said my piece to her and we all now know what she is really like.
Perhaps you could have a message that other members could cut and then paste to deal with these attacks.
Something along the lines of - the blog administrators would like to apologise for the content of recent posts by ? this is due to - whatever - and this persons membership will be suspended in the immediate future.
I think there are lots of things you could do to ensure the continued success of the Blog.
There are a lot of very intelligent, creative, and responsible people who want to post here, I am sure that between you, you can outwit a handful of sickos.
It really feels like an exciting new beginning, every new challenge is a new opportunity!
:-)
Hiya Doppel
Thanks very much for that.
I take it to mean they are not responsible for leaks and they are saying Clarence's comments are unhelpful. From what you say they are not actually denying that this is from their statement are they?
I still do not think the McCanns would have wanted that information disclosed on that day, but hey who knows. If this was a deliberate plan to discredit the PJ it has seriously backfired for them.
Hiya Di
What I meant was in line with Doppel's suggestion I may open the blog back up again, at least when there are administrators around to zap the sick troll.
I had a chat with Doc on the phone earlier which was nice and as he says the current arrangements could lose me posters but the response from you all so far has been absolutely fantastic!
Viv x
Dolores,
Now I'm really fine reading that you have administration rights.;)
Viv,
The leak was used to make the McCann's look like victims when it is Madeleine who is the real victim.
It also allowed CM to dominate the media at a time when other far more damaging stories might have been reported.
CM is also using the leaks to discredit the PJ and as the excuse for the McCann's not returning to Portugal if they are asked to by the PJ.
And in my opinion, CM is not trying to save the McCann's necks, he is trying to save his own.
The McCann's and CM are very clever people, I still hope/believe the PJ will get to the truth in the end but it will be a hard task.
As always, these are just my opinions.
Hi!
Thanks Viv for your time and your dedication to this cause and the opportunity to be here in your blog.
I hope I manage to post !
Test!!!
just logging in - thanks Viv.
Atardi,
I don't work,and it's a pleasure to help Viv, who is doing a wonderful job here in her determination to get justice for abused children.
This is not the place for filth,and people should be able to post with the confidence they are not going to be insulted.
And I am sure it will have lots of new members as a result.
XX D
XX D
Hi Viv
Just keep letting people know how to become a member and I know everyone will return. If you are not around during the day I will, I don't tend to be on much during the evening, unless footy is on, lol.
Viv,
I think it is essential that the blog is left 'open' as much as possible.
Again, perhaps you could have a page of instructions for getting a google account then instructions on how to apply for blog membership.
I don't think it really matters if you get a few 'rogues' because you can easily bar them and you don't have to be as 'tolerant' to people who dish out abuse as the DE were!
I know foul language and sexual references are not very nice, but we are all adults and it only shows up the people making such posts, not the people who they are aimed at.
Anyway you have plenty of time to give it some thought, the McCann's arn't going anywhere in a hurry, after all they have the best extradition lawyers other peoples money can buy.
Having my evening meal now, then doing some art with my son.
See you all another time
:-)
Viv and others,
Could this be the reason why some people are getting very nervous?
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Secret McCanns Files May Be Released
Updated:14:40, Monday April 14, 2008
Portuguese police and prosecutors are set to discuss their interviews with friends of Madeleine McCann's parents - which could lead to confidential files being made public.
Kate and Gerry McCann
Kate and Gerry McCann
The officials will be debating the future direction of the probe into her disappearance from Praia da Luz in the Algarve on May 3 last year.
One of Kate and Gerry McCann's lawyers said earlier this month that police files could be made public today.
But the couple's spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, played down this possibility and predicted that the official secrecy period would be extended until the summer.
Mr and Mrs McCann, from Rothley, Leicestershire, remain "arguidos" - or formal suspects - in the case but have not been charged and deny all wrongdoing.
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Paulo Rebelo, the detective leading the inquiry, flew back to Portugal earlier than expected on Friday.
He and his team spent last week in Leicestershire sitting in on fresh interviews with the seven friends on holiday with the McCanns when Madeleine disappeared.
Mr Rebelo will meet the public prosecutor in the case, Jose Cunha de Magalhaes e Meneses, in the Algarve town of Portimao today, Mr Mitchell said.
The McCanns' spokesman added: "Rebelo will report back on the interviews that took place last week, and they will then decide on whether the police need more time.
Madeleine is still missing
Madeleine is still missing
"I assume that will come out in the next day or so.
"We are hoping that they will do the decent thing, realising that the friends told essentially the same story they told last summer, and eliminate Kate and Gerry from the case."
But Mr Mitchell said he believed there was only the "slimmest of slim chances" that this would happen today.
"(Today) is technically possible for the lifting of judicial secrecy, but it's unlikely. We think it will run through to the summer," he said.
Portuguese law normally provides for an eight-month term during which documents remain secret, and official suspects, police and lawyers are banned from discussing the case in public.
Dolores,
It was meant as a compliment. But because of my bad English it didn't come over.
I always feel comfortable when I see your pink rose on this blog.
Thank you for volunteering.
Have to go now catch you all tomorrow.
Over and out
18.45pm
Welcome Librarising, I remember you from the DE and always loved your posts.
I think I will see how it goes because it seems changing to members only may actually attract new members given they dont have to put up with reading filth!
Need to pop out for a bit but am reading you all.
Atardi pj dont need to let McCanns see files until they are actually charged so I dont think they will be seeing them just yet.
See you later Di
Viv x
Atardi,
Thank you for the compliment,I did take it as such,and your English is fine. I am sorry if it did not seem, that way. And it will be a pleasure to rid the forum of them.
I will do the best I can when I can,for everyone.
I have not forgotten the recipe you want. I will think of a way to get it to you.Mabe through Viv if she agrees to pass it on to you.
XX D
Well, I'm going to delete my post. Don't want it to say here just in case some troll comes here. Not want to give them this information.
Atardi,
nice to see you've found your way here ,too!
Viv,
hope you all have read what I posted. Don't you think it is strange he has been in charge of that investigation?
Hi Marga,
Nice to see you also managed to be here.
I noticed that. Re. your post at 18.49. You are right.
Look at the words chosen by the media.
"PJ deny". Why not state: "PJ had nothing to do with the leaks." ( but in proper English than mine)
There is also a magazine (LUX)here compared to the Spanish HOLA that has Kate on the cover and the headline is : "Exclusive interview with K Mc Cann . Her plans to return to Portugal".
I have just seen it on Tv. Don't know if other Portuguese posters have bought it. I only read it at the haidresser. :-)
But it would be interesting to know when she gave this interview!
How is Mr.Pink going to spin out of this one. Looks like an own goal. The McCanns should give the buffoon the push, then agin what would we do for entertainment? he could always join the circus.
Atardi,
did you read today's article in the Times (online)?
The article only compares Kate to celebrity mothers and not to Shannon's mother or that one whose daughter was killed in Goa.
They know how to manipulate everything.
2345, you said:
I have it in front of me ... a Portuguese TV station was approached and offered 2000 euros a week to cover the case, but NOT from PJ's perspective. They refused as a matter of honour and high regard for PJ.
Monday, 14 April 2008 16:23:00 o'clock BST
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I remember this ,too. However , it was not a Portuguese Tv station but a British one that offered Paulo Cristôvão that sum of money for a 30' programm but he refused because he would have to follow a "script" that was diffrent from the PJ line of investigation.
Marga,
I read it yesterday and was astonished. Was this a real journalist?
I think British parents must protest that this woman gets paid to write such an article.
But we all know that the spinning is getting heavier now.
http://www.joana-morais.blogspot.com/
“Caso Madeleine McCann”: Esclarecimento de falso conteúdo de notícia
2008/04/14
No final da passada semana, a estação de televisão espanhola Telecinco difundiu uma notícia dando conta de que teria tido acesso exclusivo a alegadas declarações do casal McCann aos “investigadores” do desaparecimento da menor Madeleine.
Com base nesta notícia, o porta-voz deste casal, Clarence Mitchell, exprimiu publicamente, a diversos órgãos de informação, a certeza de que a Polícia Judiciária teria sido a responsável pela sua divulgação.
A Polícia Judiciária esclarece que é inteiramente falso que o conteúdo da notícia reproduza matéria constante do inquérito e que se encontra em segredo de justiça.
Por outro lado, a Polícia Judiciária não deixa de lamentar a insustentada intervenção do porta-voz, sobretudo num momento em que se realizavam significativas diligências para a investigação.
14 de Abril de 2008
A Direcção Nacional
..........
Translation:
"Madeleine McCann case": Clarification on false contents of a news piece
2008/04/14
At the end of last week, the Spanish television station Telecinco broadcast a news piece that reported that they had enjoyed exclusive access to alleged statements from the McCann couple to the "investigators" into the disappearance of the underage child, Madeleine.
Based on this news piece, the spokesman of this couple, Clarence Mitchell, expressed publicly, to several media, the certainty that the Policia Judiciaria had been responsible for its publication.
The Policia Judiciaria clarifies that it is entirely false that the contents of the news piece reproduces matter that is part of the inquiry, which is under judicial secrecy.
On the other hand, the Policia Judiciaria cannot fail to lament the baseless intervention of the spokesman, especially at a moment when significant diligences to the investigation were being carried out.
April 14, 2008
The National Directory
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Atardi,
the style sounds familiar: Rosiepops'
especially the last two paragarphs.
The comments were also very intelligent by the ones who are with their eyes wide open.
Joe,
Sorry, I've just noticed you are here too.
Thought it was only Atardi!
Apologise!
I'm cooking dinner now and going to watch the news.
They are certainly going to comment on the clarification of the Pj.
I'm curious about Mr. pink reaction.
viv, i do not think you will lose posters. i think many more, who have been discouraged, will come back.
When are the McCanns going to face up to whatever questions that the PJ need to ask them to help resolve this case, instead of this nonsense of a supposedly leaked statement, which it appears is nothing of the kind but cobbled together rubbish. Face the music like any normal person would have to and maybe people would at least respect them for it instead of thinking that this tit for tat Pink PR is going to do it for them.Too clever by half. Its not.
Joe,
I don't know how true this is,but fingers crossed, it is,about time he was questioned.He accused the PJ without knowing if it was them.
MITCHELL IS TO BE INTERVIEWED ABOUT FALSE STATEMENTS BEING GIVEN OUT.
The Leics police are as angry as the PJ, as it suggests that they have also leaked stories to the press. THEY ARE AFTER HIM BIG TIME.
Marga
I wonder if you would clarify for me please, are you Portuguese Margarida who used to post on the DE? Perhaps you would kindly email me in Portuguese and I can show this to Claudia?
You will appreciate I need to check, and hope you will not take offence at my request. It is just that I have received sign up emails from two Margarida's with different surnames which seems a little odd.
Thanks
Viv x
Hiya Dolores
Is that a confirmed report about Mitchell being interview re false statements, sorry I am working and only keeping half an eye on the blog.
If it is, what excellant news:-)
Viv xxxxx
Viv.Remember Ironsides from DE?
I am sure he won't mind me letting you see this.
XX D
Hi all you good people ...have just walked in the door with suitcase.....have missed you all...will catch up later on the 3a's....as you know I have been in england and was staying very near Kingston Hospital ...where my mother attends....as promised I have done a little asking about Oldfield at Kingston Hospital....I am not going to name the specialist who takes care of my mother,but can tell you some interesting things that he told me....The doctor in question does not know Oldfield personally although it goes without saying..he knows who he is and his field of practice...It seems Oldfield and the mccann's are a taboo subject although there is gossip in the canteen...Oldfield has never been popular and is a cocky...SOB....
In his opinion he does not believe anyone has broken his silence..( he also said if one has ,it would certainly not be oldfield...he is full of his own importance)..he also believes that it is the mccanns who have leaked this information to the press to embarass the portuguese police while they were in england...the timing was perfect...once more the mccanns are the victims....
he also said that it is common knowledge that madeleine was left crying as their are several witnesses who have given statements to the police, so in his opinion there was no damage by letting this out....he feels they are going to use this against the police so as not to go back to portugal....as the reconstruction would be a fiasco....and prove an abduction was impossible...
He also said that he has children of his own and staff that know of him were shocked to think that doctors would have left their children....It seems Kingston Hospital is rife with gossip....about this latest stunt.....In his opinion and from what he has heard around the hospital this group are like glue ...joined at the hip....
Hello, guys! back at last! Really, really tired.
Viv, e-mail me, please. I know who the real Marga is!
Viv
I hope it is, I am doing more searching. not before time IMO,he has got away far to long with his runaway mouth.
XX D
Hi Dolores,
I hope that is the case,nuisances like Mr.pink should be taken off the street for the good of all. I was amused to hear he was angry,not " furious" that reserved for K&G, at the PJ yesterday for his belief that the leak came from them and calling for the PT Government to investigate. Thats rich is it not, pretend policeman, false sightings, and the toothed bundleman plus maligned Mr.Murat all emanated from him and many other lies IMO. It would be great if the police really did throw the book at him. Surely he will have to shut up as well in the interests of justice if charges are laid.
No problem, VIV.
No , I'm not the same. I only began to post on the DX in January also due to personal reasons and as there was there an older poster called Margarida I decided to post with Nanda that is my second name.
Ok. I'll sned you an email.
I understand you quite well. :-)
Hi Viv
Thank you for the article today. I would like to draw attention to the text that you highlighted in red regarding inconsistencies in the accounts presented by the parents (mostly) and the presence of unusual bruising in cases of infanticide or filicide.
I wholeheartedly concur with the findings of that study, but would further like to point out that there is very often a history of non-fatal 'accidents' in these cases, where careful history taking and examination may have suggested the possibility of abuse.
Unfortunately, the doctors on duty at A&E units are often juniors with little experience in
paediatric trauma, unable to readily distinguish between 'normal' bumps, scrapes and even fractures, and those of more sinister origin. This is especially true of the situation in the UK since the controversial new package for experienced doctors allowed for the influx of
foreigners to man the emergency units at night and over weekends. These guys can often not even rely on the nurses to get a proper history for them because the doc does not even understand the nurse in many cases! The clinical notes are often a big mess too. A lot of
non-accidental injuries are missed for sure but it is imperative that an experienced practitioner reviews the medical records where relevant information may be found.
I have seen no reference in this case as to whether prior medical records have been examined. Considering the occupation of her parents and their circle of friends I would be surprised if a young child like Madeleine had ever visited A&E for a minor traumatic injury. However, if such a child had indeed done so, it is quite possible that there would be
gold-plated evidence contained in those records.
Hello, Marga!!!
Thank you for telling 2345 what I had already told her (that it was Paulo Pereira Cristóvão).
Viv,
Thank you again for your explanation.
Do you think they are afraid that they will be charged this week? And that's why CM is spinning?
Viv and all,
Look at the photo of Kate and Gerry when they were in Brussells in the underneath? link and please look at the photo in full size.
They seem very worried/stressed.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUKL1426339220080414
Dolores,
Sorry, I missed your last post to me. Will wait for your recipe.
God bless you.
Marga,
It's entirely false that.... You see that's what I meant with my comment about proper English.
This is what the media should have said.
The last paragraph :On the other hand, the Policia Judiciaria cannot fail to lament the baseless intervention of the spokesman, especially at a moment when significant diligences to the investigation were being carried out.
CM might be in trouble.
Librarising,
So nice to see you here. I always loved to read your comments on the DE. Hope you will post today again.
I only saw it today and don't know what you issue was about but I know perfectly well what Alsa has said because I was in the debate by that time when cristovão and Paulo Reis were in Júlia.
My last post was to you Cláudia Typos: sorry!)
On canal 1 they showed the PJ's clarification and said the PJ are still waiting for them to confirm if they come to the reconstruction.
Hi, Marga. I know that. But when I corrected 2345, I was told I was a clone and was somehow being disloyal towards Alsabella (if she only knew...). I was just glad that another Portuguese poster could confirm that what I said is true. In fact, I went to check on Paulo Pereira Cristóvão's "The Star of Madeleine". Page 121! :-)
Claudia
I am so glad you are here - I think I have been upsetting our two Portuguese Margaridas!! and I am very tired - please help!!
I really do not want to upset anyone sorry!!
Viv x
Hi Dolores
I am so pleased to hear Ironside is OK. I wondered what had become of him.
I personally do not accept that arrogance makes one less likely to talk. On the contrary I would expect them to be much more likely to do so. There is also the matter of alcohol to consider ;-). In the case of the Oldfields there was a powerful motivating factor that may have led one of them to spill a few beans in exchange for some degree of immunity. It is something that has not been mentioned much.
They left one defenceless 2 year old child to fend for itself in an apartment not visible at all from the Tapas restaurant. That rates 15 out of 10 even on the McCann scale of neglect.
Atardi,
This photograph looks like they know the game is over.
xx D
Dolores,
Amen.
Hi everyone -
I've been out most of the day so it's taken me ages to read through all the blogs, but I like to see what everyone has to say!
A lot of it is about CM and his arrogance. Quite honestly I think he is going to get his come uppance before long - if you remember the pictures of him with K&G going to and in Brussels, he was certainly in the background walking so many steps behind! I should be at all surprised if the 3amigos fall out big time before too long!
Viv, minha amiga, e-mail me and I'll tell you which one is the real Marga (Sorry, real Marga!) :-)
Hey, Doc!!! :-))))
Guys, do you think Clarrie is nervous? ;-)
Docmac,
Does he have an on going need?
I am watching a fascinating document at the moment.
Covenant of the lost Ark.
xx D
gerry has his politician face on. kate wishes to be anywhere else but there!
Ultraviolet -
I wondered why when I clicked on one of my earlier messages that your profile appeared! I wondered what the heck was going on! You said something about we share the same profile. It's good to know that we can come on here now without disgusting comments and foul language! Viv did the right thing in acting quickly like she did! No wonder she is knackered though with all that has been going on!
Viv, if you are here can I try something new on the blog? I want to try and post something to see how it works.
Dolores - ongoing need?
Sorry - HEY, CLAUDIA :-)))
Docmac,
Oldfield and alchohol.
Dolores -
Thanks for the post from Ironside -I always enjoyed his input on the DX! Was he actually banned by them as I was?
What he said about the Tapas 9 being joined at the hip is very plain! Otherwise someone would have spilled the beans by now I'm sure.
It's no wonder Kate doesn't want to go back to her job at the hospital if there is an obvious undercurrent of feeling and gossip behind their backs, but what else can she expect when this case has been given such worldwide publicity from the outset.
I see Kate is still doing magazine articles - I think she is trying to feather their nest before the s..t hits the fan!!
Hey, doc! :-)
So, taking this press release by the PJ into account, I think we can pretty safely rule out the pathetic news that Alípio Ribeiro (who hasn't even been in the UK which means the idiotic journalist didn't even get the name right)interrupted the interrogations, kneeled down and asked for the tapas' forgiveness.. lololol
Nancy,
Hi,I was banned also,as Viv says only the ones who hit a nerve get this honour.
Ironsides is a great guy.He always posts on 3 A's now.Ialways enjoy his posts.
XX D
Doc
If you want to write tomorrow's blog I would be absolutely delighted and give you a whole card of gold stars. Please do you know how snowed under I am right now. I am just so thrilled the blog is up and running again, I really thought Ass might have won earlier on when I just had to pull the plug.
Luv you all loads and sorry you are not getting much intelligent out of me but I no you manage without! It is great to read you!
THANK YOU ALL FOR MAKING THIS SUCH A GREAT PLACE FOR JUSTICE FOR MADDIE, MY DREAM, AND FOR ALL LITTLE CHILDREN!
Viv x
Dolores
I understand so.
Dolores
Nasty old DE banned Viv and really sweet Felicity, just how could they, and Doc even thought of that cute name for me too xxx
Claudia, you know I don't need to answer that :-)
Viv, give me a few minutes to try something. I don't know how it works, but I'll try and figure it out.
Viv - and everyone!
I'm clocking off now - look forward to seeing you all tomorrow and I hope all of our team find their way back on here by and by!
JUSTICE FOR MADELEINE!
Good Evening All just testing the link.
NEW POST UP!!!!!!!
Viv, you've got mail! :-)
Well, here I am! Finally managed to change the settings of my google account. No more german today :P
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It seems to me that CM this time really did it! To see how far team McCann have gone with this circus is simply ludicrous. Can't imagine what more can they come up with, but nothing would surprise me anymore.
Hello everyone, thank you Viv for invitation.
I do not post here often due to personal circumstances, but I do read all of your posts and appreciate everybody’s effort in fighting for Madeleine and other children.
Thank you Portuguese posters, and if any of PJs ever reading this, I bow my head in admiration.
Margarida
Hello and welcome. I am sorry about your trials and tribulations to get hear but what is important, now you are.
Doc
I just looked at your lovely post but it made me cry. What a wonderful tribute to precious little children, on your first post. May it be the first of many, maybe we could run it like a co-operative now guys and you all just put posts up when you want to? WE would get more variety and interest then, than just me doing it. People have so many different perspectives, and perspective taking is a good thing to do:-)
Oh and Hello Wizard how great you are here too, and slap my wrists for missing your emails!
Viv xx
An earlier post from Stella said a road was being dug up in PDL with police in attendance. Putting 2 and 2 together and no doubt making five I’ve just been reading a discussion on 3A’s about whether Tanner and O’Brien know where Madeleine is buried. It was suggested that perhaps a member of the PJ beat a hasty retreat on Friday because during an interview someone disclosed the location. Er……..well perhaps.
Irina too, it is like a meeting again of long lost friends. Whatever your personal circumstances we are always lucky to have you when you do arrive with your lovely calm words of wisdom.
Welcome to you too!
Viv xx
Wizard
That is a very interesting theory, after all, we do think they know where Madeleine and that would be more than enough to make the boss, Dr Rebelo, go rushing back.
Could we just dare to hope this is the breakthrough and little Maddie will finally get a beautiful resting place, like she deserves?
I will try and not raise my hopes too much though, there have been many disappointments, perhaps the greatest just having to accept she is not alive.
Viv x
Irina, thank you for your words.
And be sure that the PJ know how many people all around the world (from different countries, different cultures, diiferent races and and different languages)appreciate what their efforts for the past year.
Viv,
The postman has been.
XX D
Viv,
Did you see the post about Ironsides view on recent developments?
Seems Ironsides analysis is the same as the one I gave in my posts earlier today.
Obviously that doesn't mean it's correct, but if it is true that Leicestershire police want to talk to CM then the McCann's just might be digging themselves a bigger and bigger hole.
Regarding the blog, I think once you get your head round things you will realise that Assassin has actually done you a big favour.
You just need to think creatively about how to give people access to the blog, if you can handle so many members that is.
Odd rogue members will still get through occasionally but they can easily be 'banned'.
People just need to set up a dummy hotmail account which takes 5 minutes, get a blogger ID and they're away.
Then if an undesirable gets their e-mail address no harm is done.
But I would advise people not to use their regular E-mail accounts, particularly if they have used their own names in the address, or used real personal details to set up the account.
The people trying to stop you are idiots, you can beat them, infact you have already.
:-)
Viv, Thanks for the invitation to join the blog. I missed Gina’s much earlier posts regarding the cloning etc that was going on last night – she said even I was cloned, they must be desperate. When CM said “The gloves are off” - apparently this doesn’t go as far as the glove puppets.
I thought I might sum up what I know of the past week:
1. The order of interrogations is tanner, O'Brian, Paynes, Oldfields.(very wise!!!)
This is telling:
Tanner - easy to prove the lie (witnesses and CCTV) - she was cracked easy;
O'Brian - based up on Tanner story, doubtfully the child was sick (as she never bothered to go) - cracked to some extend...
Paynes - considered less involved and more responsible = easier to make them to cooperate - said what they knew...
Webster- ??? Was she questioned or they already had her testimony???
Oldfields - the tough to crack as they do not have conscience or direct involvement... Think they told they were drunk and do not remember, but possible that McCanns lied...
PJ: They are deciding now how to play next card: to secure the arrest.
Would think that the game will go on for a while: discrediting Clary, building towards reconstruction..., trying to get McCanns finances from them, deceiving their lawyers...
Margarida,
The more desperate they get, the more hopeful I am that the PJ are getting closer to cracking the case.
I think Jane Tanner could be the key to breaking the pact of silence, IF she has said what has been reported in the interview then I think she will soon have to decide if she is prepared to sacrifice herself to save the McCann's.
This is why the PJ didn't want to reinterview Kate and Gerry and why this rattled the McCann's so much.
I think the McCann's would much rather the PJ had talked to them than JT, they know JT is the weak link in the chain.
IMHO.
Just here to say good bye to you all.
Margarida,
Nice you are here too.
Boa noite !
Hi and Bye, folks - just a quick visit. I have been reading over the past few days but not posting!
PLEEEEEEZZZZEEEEEE let it be true that the Pink Tosser is about to get his comeuppance! I'll hold off on the celebs until I really see it, though.
Looks like everybody is well and happy again after yesterday's fun and games! That Assassin is a bl**dy psycho, better off locking her out Viv, except now she'll have no place to go - the Pro's have banned her as well!!!
Right, I need an early night as I hae an early start, try and look in tomorrow sometime. Keep up the good work, a'body!
Hi and bye, Rat!
Dorme bem, Marga!
Beijinhos!
To everyone who can understand Vlaams/Dutch or German.
It's interesting to look sometimes at
www.hln.be.
Just scroll down untill you reach at the left Verdwijning Maddie.
I am more interested in the comments.It's just like in England. Some "paid posters" (my opinion) and the others who don't trust the abduction theory.
I have also asked a Dutch blogger(where I have been posting also) if he wouldn't mind if I publicised his link on Viv's blog 2 months ago. I got permission. It was ok but he said won't respond in English.
Will go now and look for his link.
Viv /Claudia
That's both of you zapped, now bring on the bad guys, I am waiting.
LOL
XX D
ROTB,
Fantastic to see you around again, I was very concerned after what happened a few weeks ago.
Hope you are ok
:-)
Dolores,
'I've got a delete button and I'm not afraid to use it!!!!!!'
I will really have to be on my best behaviour now ;-)
Hya everyone,
Today I was able to see a little of the “As Tardes da Júlia” Progamam but only the final part.
She ( Júlia Pinheiro ) had 3 guest on the studio and one guest on the phone.
The guests on the studio were, Paulo Ribeiro Critovão,Hernâni Carvalho and Paulo Sargento, on the phone she had Duarte Levy.
Hernâni said that Mr. O’Brian went to the apartment 5A at 7.00pm and haven’t told that to the police and didn’t explain what he was doing there long time before the alarm were raised.
He said that Paulo Reis was followed several times and one day he had to run away fast with his car and he is now debilitate and can not work properly …
Paulo Pereira Cristovão told that our prosecutor should open a file against
Clarence Mitchell because he is the one that is speaking too much.
Hernâni told that the couple said that they were able to see the apartment from Tapas bar and that they had forgotten to say that there was a wall with 2,50 meters of high between the restaurant and the apartment ,and when he told that on the TV he had had serious problems…
Duarte Levy is a journalist, he is half Portuguese and half British and lives in Belgium .
He has several contacts with some cops in Leicester and had had access to parts of the files concerning the rogatory letters and he knows that the tapas crew had had access too before the re-interviews. Then he spokes about Clarence Mitchell and the trip to the EU, politics, bla bla bla …
And that is all I could see!
Atardi, hi again, I was struck by -
Wat een perfecte ouders toch allemaal!Wat is het toch makkelijk om een ander te veroordelen,dan voelen we ons alweer een beetje beter en kunnen onszelf wijsmaken dan het ons nooit kan overkomen.
Which roughly translates as -
What a perfect parents you all are! It is so easy to condemn others, just to make yourselves feel better and fool yourselves that this will never happen to you.
This was written by one Nadia Nadia, who seems to be the Gang Leader, followed by a lesser posse of hangers-on, lapping up every word. Needless to say, Nadia Nadia is responsible for over half the posts on the board.
Sound familiar? At all?
Right. Really need to get to bed now, have a good debate all!!!!
Viv,
You have mail.
xx D
Thanks, Ana! That was a great summary! :-) I wasn't able to watch it but my mother told me that it was 'hot' and that CM could add some names to his suing list! :-)
Doppel, I am fine. I was in Turkey. I have lined up Clarence's next job for him, in a wee bar in Mahmutlar. All he has to do is spin a lot and wear pink, it's a belly-dancing bar!!!!
Doppel,
I would never zap the Lion King.
:)
XX D
Rat, it does ring a bell... ;-)
Boa noite!
Dolores, if you have any deleting questions, please feel free. I've done hundreds, probably! ;-)
Hello Viv and Everyone,
(Doppel - let's have a joint celebration in June after these blessed GCSEs!)
Viv, sent you an email around 10.30 this evening. Been out for most of the day and have just been reading back.
Too tired now to answer the posts addressed to me earlier I'm afraid, but will get to them tomorrow. Hope you understand, folks.
See you all tomorrow.
X
Ana,
That was a very interesting report thanks so much.
I have certainly never heard that before that O'Brien went to the McCanns apartment at 7, long before the alarm was raised and then Gerry say he put them to sleep at 7.15..No doubt the Pros will say well maybe he just went around for a drink.. I dont think so somehow and Gerry does not mention him being there does he? In that statement that has smeared him ha!
I am really hoping PJ do get really tough with Clarence Mitchell, as they say he talks too much at a crucial stage in the enquiry. Now wouldn't it be nice if they issued a European Arrest Warrant.
You would have to duck your way into this blog to avoid the flying champagne corks and then tee hees x
Hi Cláudia darling,
For what I was able to see, was hot indeed. I just didn’t knew that O’Brian was in the apartment at 7.00Pm in the same day that Madeleine disappear. Well and that is very suspicious imo !
Claudia,
Thank you, I think I have it now,and am ready for them.:)
XX D
Ana
That was very interesting, Thanks for the information.
XX D
Little Grey Cell,
You sound tired,I hope all went well with you at the hospital.
Take care
XX D
Little Grey Cell,
You sound tired,I hope all went well with you at the hospital.
Take care
XX D
I also didn't know that, Ana. Interesting. Did you read PJ's press release? Even more interesting. Do you think Clarrie is nervous? ;-)
Dolores, you rule! :-)
Hi Viv Hun,
You are Welcome; we do what a woman got to do :)
When I heard that I Stopped and thought, wait a minute, I have never listen that and then bells starting to ring ...This is something very suspicious, and I don’t go further...
Viv,
If O'B 'helped' to put the children to sleep,this could be the hold G & K have on them.
Iforget at the moment what position he holds at the hospital,I am sure its related to ......Iwill search for that.
xx D
Dolores,
I really don't pay you compliments to get them in return, I just think you are all genuinely nice people.
Much nicer than me actually because sometimes I use nasty tactics when I am confronted by nasty people which is not exactly very morally defensible.
However, having said that, I do appreciate your kind words.
I will leave you all to it now, as I am neglecting my imaginary wife and I am imagining she will be getting grumy with me!
Nite, nite everyone.
Cláudia,
Yes I did see PJ´s press realise!!! It was great and something rare for them to do.
If I was Clarence I would be very nervous indeed,thanks God I am not him and I am much much more pretty :)
Sleep tight, Doppel.
Doppelganger,
Good Night.
Ana, lololololol
Ana, the bottom of my shoe is better looking than Clarrie. And much more intelligent too! :-)
LGC,
A kindred spirit.
Let me assure you I know exactly what you are going through.
My son who is doing his GCSE's now was born with the chord wrapped around his neck and did not speak a word until he was five.
But sfter 10 years of hard work he is now set to get 10 good GCSE's.
That is why I get so angry when people go on about neurotic parents. Being a parent is a 24hr a day job. Children don't ask to be born, we decide to bring them into the world so it is our responsibility to put them first and our own temporary pleasures second.
IMHO
Good luck with yours by the way.
:-)
Claudia
I love you, as soon as I walk back in the room you make me laugh:-)
Viv x
ROTB,
Really pleased to hear you are fine.
Nite, nite again! etc,etc,etc
Cláudia,
The "esfregona" here at home too.Lol
Viv, I don’t know how to say esfregona in English, maybe Claudia does... :)
In the new spirit of we are all the authors I just found a really good email 2345 sent me a few days ago which is notes of the press conferene Pink and the Gruesome twosome bravely undertook. They get a nice grilling off the press, especially the Daily Express I thought:-)
Thanks 2345. I put a nice pic of them up too, although they dont exactly look confident and inspired, cant think why not, international Mother Teresa.. and Santa Claus x
Viv, always a pleasure, hun! :-)
Ana, I think "esfregona" is a mop. Or is this american english? Or maybe 'mop' doesn't even exist? lolol
Claudia,
And what you sometimes have stuck to the bottom of your shoe is what CM has between his ears.
And I don't mean chewing gum!
Just ignore me, I'm not supposed to be here now. ;-)
Doppel, ;-)
Ratonthebeam
If I did not already say it because I have been run a bit ragged tonight HOW FAB TO SEE YOU
AND TO ALL you other lovely GUYS AND GALS
NITE NITE
BOA NOITE
AND UP YOURS DAILY EXPRESS
COM AMOR
VIV XXXXXXXXX
TEE HEE
PJ,
You are doing a sterling job in bringing justice for Maddie. The days and hours of your perseverence and dedication is to be applauded.
Bless you all
One final thought isnt absolutely lovely without the nutcase chiming in every 30 seconds, read it and weep Ass
No right to replyxxxxxxx
Viv,
Loooooooool You are priceless
xx D
yea i knoooowwww
Boa Noite querida Viv, dorme bem :)
I was reading 3As and read that Clarence and others Child neglecter’s supporters are or were on a TV program called "James Whale Show" and they were saying the worst about Portugal and the PJ.
Some of the things:
JW- Portuguese police: they can't organise a p** in a brewery
CM -'I don't take back what I said. It was said out of my knowledge and suspicion...'
JW - people boycotting holidays to Portugal.
-"the police in Portugal are disgusting.............
The McCanns have been treated appallingly"
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Oh dear, looks like they are a little desperate to me...why is not Clarence on Sky Knews saying all oh this?
Viv,
I bet ass...is doing somersaults,
Look at the army of supporters on the right for justice.
xx D
To all my dear friends, I wish you a good night.
Viv, querida amiga, thank you for everything you have done.
Sleep tight, darling.
Have to get up at 7! Ouch! :-)
Beijinhos!
xxxx
Ana,
Everyone knows J. Whales is a buffoon,anything he says is for attention and not worth bothering about. Another Mc lover.
XX D
Cláudia,
Boa noite, dorme bem.
Beijinhos :)
Dolores,
I don´t know who is He and I see that is better to don´t know him at all,another child neglecter fan...Urrrr!!!
I am off Now,nite everyone !
Beijinhos
Ana /Claudia,
Sleep well
xx D
Nite, all.
Beijinhos, Ana and Dolores.
Viv, you got mail. Sleep tight, darling.
xxxx
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