2 Apr 2008

PHILOMENA MAY GET OFF PEOPLE FEEL SORRY FOR YOU..

SOME FLYING PENGUINS IN HONOUR OF ONE OF MY FAVOURITES CONTRIBUTORS LGC AND FOR ITS DEEP SYMBOLIC MEANING.


Philomena's false claims, the next day confirmed to be false by Kate's lawyer who warned her you may be charged..Kate was asked did you kill her, did you sedate her? 22 difficult questions for Kate, the next day, as an Arguida...

I recall there being reports of a syringe being found..blood spray?

No wonder the family got Philomena to just shut up!

On one of The Telegraph links going back to September it says:
Salacious reports of blood spots, intercepted phone calls and child sedation so far have been dismissed as nothing more than libellous slurs by the McCann family.

Ummmm, libellous eh?? We will see about that...(!)

Susan Healey, Kate McCann's mother:
"Anybody who knows Kate and Gerry knows it is absolutely ludicrous; I just can't describe it any other way.
"Kate and Gerry are relying on the Portuguese police but there is an uncomfortable feeling that they are not necessarily looking outwards for Madeleine but towards them.
"There are some questions which the Portuguese police are not allowed to ask unless the suspect has been charged.
"Kate and Gerry will answer any questions, it is in their own interests.

THEN WHY DONT THEY MRS HEALY? That is what we would all really like to know

WE would also like to you ask you why it took you such an agonisingly long moment to explain what Kate sounded like on the telephone to you when you appeared on Panorama, what were you afraid to tell us, Mrs Healy? Then you just told us "well she was upset obviously" UPSET??

Why do you think she was asking you to get in touch with the Priest Mrs Healy, did that make your heart run cold? What were thinking when she asked for that Mrs Healy?


"But I don't know if either of them has asked to be made a suspect." continued Mrs Healy...



In the Daily Mail there was an article Madeleine: Parents should be charged with killing daugther says Police

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=480915&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true

guess what happens when you click on the link for that story "article missing"....

I do not believe the Mail and the Express just made all these stories up, do you?

Freedom of the Press to tell it like it it? What happened to that?

Viv x







Kate McCann accused of killing MadeleineBy Caroline Gammell in Portimao and Gordon Rayner
Last Updated: 2:26am BST 12/09/2007
Kate McCann has been warned she could be charged with the "accidental" killing of her daughter Madeleine after Portuguese police directly asked her whether she was behind the toddler's disappearance.
The claims and the case for the defence
Shocked response from friends and family
Full coverage: The search for Madeleine McCann
In an extraordinary twist, Mrs McCann's family said detectives now believed she caused the four-year-old's death in their holiday apartment, then hid the body before returning a month later to dispose of it.


Video: Crowds gathered to support - and jeer - Kate McCann as she returned to the police station in Portimao today
It was claimed that police had offered Mrs McCann a "deal" of a two-year jail sentence if she confessed and told them where the body was.
The astonishing developments followed the discovery of blood in a car the McCanns hired four weeks after Madeleine's disappearance 128 days ago, which police believe proves Mrs McCann killed Madeleine.
The allegation was dismissed as "ludicrous" by Mrs McCann's husband Gerry, while her parents said the police investigation had become "a joke".
Mrs McCann was declared a formal suspect, or "arguida" by police, who spent a second day questioning her in the Algarve town of Portimao before releasing her without charge five hours later.
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Mr McCann was also questioned, but remains a witness rather than a suspect.
Mrs McCann has been warned by her lawyer Carlos Pinto de Abreu to be prepared for the fact she might now be arrested and charged.
A family spokeswoman, Justine McGuinness, revealed that Mrs McCann had been asked outright if she had killed her daughter, and was "shocked and angry" at the allegation, which she emphatically denied.
Miss McGuinness said: "They believe they have evidence to show that in some way she's involved in the death of her daughter, which of course is completely ludicrous.
Villagers back Madeleine McCann's parents
Timeline of Madeleine McCann's disappearance
Video: Kate McCann re-interviewed
"They have suggested that blood has been found in a hire car that they hired 25 days after Madeleine was taken. How on earth could you hide a body for that long? We are in a hot climate.
"When this was put to Kate she was very taken aback. It was the first time she had heard the allegation and she actually swore at police."
Mr McCann's sister, Philomena, later revealed the plea bargain offered by detectives.


Interactive graphic: The disappearance of Madeleine
She said: "They tried to get Kate to confess to having accidentally killed Madeleine by offering her a deal through her lawyer, which was 'if you say you killed Madeleine by accident and then hid her and then disposed of the body, then we can grant you a two-year jail sentence or even less. You may get off because people feel sorry for you'."
According to one report, the police asked Mrs McCann, a doctor, whether she had sedated her daughter, leading to speculation that detectives think she may have accidentally given Madeleine an overdose.
Mr McCann, 39, expressed his own frustrationin his blog on the Madeleine campaign website, saying: "We will fight this all the way."
Police had told Mrs McCann before she went for questioning that they had 22 "difficult" questions to put to her further to the information she had given them during 11 hours of questioning on Thursday.
Whistles and jeers mingled with shouts of support as she arrived at the police station today carrying Madeleine's favourite toy, cuddle cat.

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viv said...

How sincere was Gerry McCann, in August at the Edinburgh Festival when he said he wanted the media obsession to end? Trips to the Pope, The Whitehouse, Panorama, Vanity Fair, Antennae 3, Christmas Video, Clarence Mitchell, Film and Interview deals with the Americans (failed), ITV Anniversary Special (which he was dreaming of in June 2007), just a few I thought of off hand. Can we trust anything you say, Gerry McCann?



McCanns call for media obsession to end
By Chris Hastings, Arts and Media Editor, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 1:42am BST 26/08/2007



The father of Madeleine McCann yesterday appealed to the media to end its obsession with his daughter's disappearance.

Full coverage: search for Madeleine McCann


Madeleine's father Gerry McCann: 'In the last six weeks there really has been nothing to report'


Speaking at the Edinburgh International Television Festival, Gerry McCann said that, despite the family's concerted effort to publicise the hunt for the four-year-old, the continuing scrutiny had been far greater than he could ever have imagined.

Mr McCann, 39, said that, because of the need for the media campaign to continue in "a pretty low-key format", he and his wife Kate were now considering returning home to Rothley, Leics.

"I personally do not think it is necessary to bombard people with Madeleine's image on a daily basis," Mr McCann said. "Initially, without a doubt, we wanted a lot of coverage, but the coverage has been 10 times greater than we imagined."

Mr McCann said that, in an effort to provide coverage of the hunt, some journalists had been tempted into presenting harmful speculation as fact. He added that he had now stopped looking at newspaper and television coverage of the case.

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Last week, Mr McCann condemned a report in a Portuguese newspaper which claimed that he and his wife had accidentally killed Madeleine with an overdose of drugs.

The McCanns have denied any involvement in their daughter's disappearance and police have confirmed that they are not suspects.

"A huge amount of speculation is being presented as fact because people are under a huge amount of pressure to come up with stories," Mr McCann said. "In the last six weeks there really has been nothing to report. Staying in Portugal may be counterproductive because of the media attention on Kate and I which generates pressure on people to write things.

"The sticking point is the knowledge that we will be leaving Portugal as a family of four when we arrived as a family of five."

He also admitted that his feelings of guilt over Madeleine's disappearance would never leave him and his wife.

docmac said...

Morning Viv

I'm sure there are more than a few in the Portuguese police forces that are sorry that Kate was NOT arrested and formally charged at that time.

The Telegraph article mentioned in your first comment above contains yet another damning quote from Gerry.

"The sticking point is the knowledge that we will be leaving Portugal as a family of four when we arrived as a family of five."

The knowledge, Gerry? Yet another admission that he knew Madeleine would indeed never be returning home to Rothley.

Hey ho, hey ho. The floors are filthy so I'd better get busy with the mop :-). Later, Viv.

hope4truth said...

Morning Viv (Hello Doc if you are still about)...

Viv thanks for your answer last night. At least if they can see the evidence against them in black and white they will know why they were made Arguidos..

Have a good day see you later x

hope4truth said...

Oh by the way love the penguins x

Niki said...

Good morning!

Thanks for interesting articles Viv, and Docmac; The planning of the one year anniversery I find is one of the most sickening substances of this sad story...(Knowledge)...

I don't think Philomena was lying. I think Kate told her on the phone that she was offered a 2 year sentence in case she was arrested. She could then continiue to claim her innocent and to blame the police as the portugeese mother had done (sorry, forgot the name, and don't have the time to look it up)

I did not know Philomena had a meeting with Brown too! :

Madeleine's aunt, Philomena McCann, of Glasgow, visited Parliament on Wednesday to lobby MPs and peers for support.



Philomena McCann appealed to MPs for their help

She said that, in a personal meeting, Mr Brown had offered support on "a practical and a personal level".


She added: "For someone to abduct Madeleine, we're aware they would want such a beautiful, caring little girl as she is, and I can totally understand them.

"But give her back, she isn't yours, we want her home and safe."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6662723.stm

Have a nice day everyone:)
Niki

lizzy said...

HI Viv,
I understand in August Gordon Brown has told Gerry to scale down the campaign, maybe he realised the danger in proving to be supporting publically a couple who were possibly guilty in his eyes. So I believe this is why Gerry made the remarks in August at Edinburgh. His behaviour and actions since making these remarks have not show this to be the case though, they seem to court publicity. Lizzy

supertroll said...

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supertroll said...

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Gina said...

"I personally do not think it is necessary to bombard people with Madeleine's image on a daily basis," Mr McCann said. "Initially, without a doubt, we wanted a lot of coverage, but the coverage has been 10 times greater than we imagined."

Mr McCann said that, in an effort to provide coverage of the hunt, some journalists had been tempted into presenting harmful speculation as fact. He added that he had now stopped looking at newspaper and television coverage of the case.

...................................
Unfortunately Gerry once you become a celebrity you are subject to the praise one minute and criticism the next. It has happened to many rich and famous and they have no control over it. I said from the beginning you were taking this too far and it would backfire on you, but you knew best didn't you. You hired Clarence who keeps throwing more fuel on the fire for you,taking every single opportunity to get your names attached to other missing children and the like and this is a man who is supposed to know about public relations and the media. If you feel so strongly about it why is Clarence allowed to continue with this, why are you still seeking book and film deals. Whether you had anything to do with Madeleine disappearance or not, you have done yourselves no favours with this high profile. You have created some sympathy, some doubt, and a lot of people who are indifferent and sick to death of seeing and hearing about YOU. Madeleine has and always will be peoples concern.

Thats got that off my chest, now off to do the chores

nancy said...

Good morning Viv et al!

The McCanns jumped on the bandwagon of publicity from day 1 and it increased in momentum at a rapid rate from then on. Once they had the whole world in their hands via the media, a fund and company started, interviews with all and sundry, travelling everywhere apart from Praia de Luz where Madeleine vanished! I think they realised that instead of the public warming to them, it was having the very opposite effect and people really began to doubt their motives. That coupled with the fact that they have acted as if they had lost their pet dog has made them unpopular with many people. Now they are trying to limit some of the damage done to their personas by being seen to be highlighting the plight of missing children via the amber alert. Why don't they introduce T shirts saying 'never leave your children alone'! That might be a more positive action.

I see the most overused word on all of the quotes by different people surrounding the McCanns is 'ludicrous' - meaning absurd or ridiculous - well it was absurdly and ridiculously neglectful of the McCanns and their friends to put their children in danger in the first place and they should have to answer for these dangerous actions - what if all the children left had been 'abducted'? I think there would have been much more of a backlash from the powers that be then! And it could have happened - i.e. a gang of paedophiles working in the area!

Back later!

Anonymous said...

Well said Gina, considering he made the comments in August that there was too much publicity, he has since then gone on and on to promote more and more. It seems all he is interested in is winning sympathy, collecting donations, and profiting from his child - and he thinks he can continue to do that without people disliking him for doing so. He rarely mentions Madeleine anymore, absolutely sickening.

marga said...

Paulo Reis is back.

www.gazetadigital.blogspot.com

Have a nice day !!

Zodiac said...

Morning all,

Claudia - Your posts last night regarding the neglect, I totally agrre with you and it is the main reason that I continue to post. Well said.

Atardi - What a difficult position you find yourself in. The truth hurts and sometimes the truth cannot be ignored, I agree with who suggested to you that you cannot solve the problem, only the girl can. Kind words and guidance from yourself will help her solve the problem. What hard task for you. You and she are in my thoughts and I send to you both good wishes for a happy resolve.

H4T - Good luck with the lemon diet, a stone in 5 days sounds brill.

Gina - Well said.

Nancy - I am fed up hearing the word, Ludicrous. It now has a new meaning for me.

LGC - Dutch Elm Disease, ROTFLMAO!

BBFN, read you all later.

BTW, what was Docmac's news?

marga said...

Zodiac,

was reading the news and found this article
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23436596/page/2/

One question: Do you know from what yoiu have read till now if the MC canns had already been to Praia da Luz before May 07?

Anonymous said...

Just read Sassy says we have no right to start a witch hunt and we do not have the facts. I totally agree with her if she is now saying that includes she also does not have the facts about what the PJ have been doing. Doubt it, but can live in hope we are all singing off the same hymn sheets at last :-(

marga said...

I'm still reading the article. It's a long one.
But this is a surprise to me:

Richard Gaisford:

It's a very warm welcoming friendly place.
And it was a place the McCanns knew well. They'd been to the resort before.

Niki said...

Sorry all, for being off topic again, on my way out and just saw this diturbing news:



Police arrest Shannon Matthews's stepfather Craig Meehan
Last Updated: 10:38am BST 02/04/2008



Police investigating the disappearance of schoolgirl Shannon Matthews have arrested her stepfather Craig Meehan, sources said.


The 22-year-old was held on suspicion of possessing indecent images of children

Full article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/02/nshannon102.xml

Zodiac said...

Marga,

Thanks for that link. I have not read it yet. I do not know if they had been there before. Did you watch the video with John McCann, Why was M left alone/unattended. What a totally lame reason he gives.

marga said...

Well, the same old things apart from the information about them being before to PDL.

Is this Clint Van Zandt Dutch?
Does anyone know?

Have to go now. Bye!

marga said...

Zodiac,

no, I haven't watched it. I'm in a hurry. Have classes in 30 minutes.
But later I'll comment on it.
Tx

Zodiac said...

Marga,

Off out myself, had a quick look at the article, no mention of JT leaving the table only GMcC @ 9pm, another male half an hour later and KM @10PM. Thanks very interesting info, read you later.

eurekamano said...

Hi, as Clarry said the Mcs are keen to help clarify anything, I'm sure they will have asked Leicestershire Police to allow them to be questioned also, while the PJ are here next week. After all what could be more helpful and convenient? Such helpful people, Hmmm...

Anonymous said...

Courts award libel damages when a company or an individual has suffered financial harm as a result of something you said or written.
For now, at least, the rules of libel are the same online as they are in any other medium. If what you say is true, it's not libel; if it's opinion, it's not libel.

However, if you state that "someone" killed their daughter and offer explanations of how that happened and also allow others to do the same on your blog, you can be charged with libel.

If it can be proved that your actions have caused unnecessary pain and suffering as a direct result of what you have written and allowed others to write, then this is construed as libellous comment.
EG
1)The material is defamatory either directly or indirectly;

2)The questionable defamatory statement is about someone identifiable to one or more persons;

3)The material is distributed to someone other than the offended party.

(As in the case of the blog owner Alsabella and her "Open Letter To Mrs Healy")

You cannot be held liable for telling the truth. But if you state a mistruth as if it were a fact, you could be liable for libel.

The posters on this blog regulary state mistruths and report speculation as if it were a fact. This is quite clearly "libellous".

There are certain posters to this blog that, 'consistently' and 'persistently' break the laws of libel.

Signed: A Passing Libel Expert.

mandz said...

Are you lot ever going to concede that Kete and Gerry are going to get away with murder lterally?
ITS NOT WHAT YOU KNOW ITS WHO YOU KNOW!!

docmac said...

Hey passing libel expert

If you want to appear to be an expert you should not copy and paste information which is derived verbatim from an article in the August 1996 edition of 'PC World' magazine. It just makes you look like the fool you obviously are.

docmac said...

'Mandz'

Who is "Kete"?

Anonymous said...

Now Mandz clone, that was a silly balls up.
It is an offence to clone a poster gothcha.

mandz said...

anonymous libel expert..you are full of it. ( removed the sh from the wod it) The McCanns have to prove the comments are without foundation.They have to prove that the comments have caused the suffering and grief. take the tennis lesson Gerry had hours after daughter missing, a jury would have to concede he did play tennis and then there is would a man who played tennis as he did find critism of him hurtfull. I doubt he would, he didnt give a hoot his daughter was missing so I cant imagine gossip would be hurtfull. Its not our fault he and his wife look the way they do, its theirs.

mandz said...

anonymous, I am not cloning anyone, and what offence is it exactly?Can you stipulate the law on this, or maybe the libel expert can?
Kete is a typo, Im sure there are many throughout these pages, is there a particular reason you have leapt at this one?

Gina said...

Just popped back for a quick read:
ANNON - Passing libel lawyer, hope you have not passed by completely as I would like to ask you something I would genuinely like to know. When comments are made as fact such as "The PJ have stitched the McCanns up" or "The PJ did not...and give a list of things is that libellous too

MANDZ I am assuming that comment was from an imposter as I cannot believe you said what you just did

Anonymous said...

Mandz clone,............. I hope vile knows she is responsible for your cloning of another poster...........
You only set this up a bit ago, so your not very good are you as you cannot clone her proper details...........
Well google bye vivvy..........

mandz said...

gina my darling, you are the subject of may nasty comments about you being twofaced, cant I have more faces than big ben also?

mandz said...

anonymous re vile comment, do you want to try englih sentences this time? You have to string a series of words together that make sense as a whole.

Gina said...

Docmac hope the answer to my question is in PC world too :-)

docmac said...

'Mandz'

Amanda would never have misspelt 'Kate'. You are as fake as Posh Spice, the real Mandz's idol.

mandz said...

I also post on joana morais and have done for a while thank you.

mandz said...

docmac, I am not trying to copy anyone, I have never heard of mandz, this blogger was alreadty set up on this p.c by he owner of the p.c!!

docmac said...

Afternoon Gina :-)

mandz said...

Right Im off to justiice for all the family now cya,

Anonymous said...

mandz said...
I also post on joana morais and have done for a while thank you.

Wednesday, 2 April 2008 12:03:00 o'clock BST

How did you do that you idiot, when you have only set the profile up today.................
Never mind it matters not..........

Gina said...

Mandz, yes I am subject to comments about being two faced, but they are only comments and wrong opinions. I always post as me for all to see so that is not two faced IMO. I have no time now for any on the other blog after the way they slammed into me, but I think what you are doing is below the belt and unnecessary. Why don't you go over to their site and sign in as Mandz and say what you are saying on there and see how long you last

Gina said...

Hi doc, how are you, any news worth mentioning. Have to go in a mo, women's work and all that, and I am sure you still have the loos to do

mandz said...

anonymous you are so full of it, see yesterdays and the previous days post on Jonan morais you will see my comments. I hope there is more substance to your other posts than the ones you make to me necause you are sooooo wrong!!

docmac said...

Gina I'm fine thanks, as I hope you are. I have 'news' of minor interest which I shall post much later. As you say, here I go loo-de-loo ;-)

Have a great day, Gina.

OpusThePenguin said...

WAHOO!!! PENGUINS!!!

Just look at them go...

Thanks, Viv, for posting my family and friends at the top of this thread.

(And for anyone who thought that penguins couldn't fly, I'd say we're not all dependent on Terminal 5).

Hurrah!!!

:>

mandz said...

No dia 31 Março, mandz escreveu...
Hello all, My thoughts on this are, that JW was a spanner in the works and they had to improvise. Funny Tanner cried during the sun interview..on the documentary she spoke on she looked bemused and showed no other emotion, she came over as a liar.
The way the McCanns have acted throughout is not normal, infact its callous. They said after the Daily Express libel saga that " There was no evidence madeliene had ben SERIOUSLY harmed"!! If as they say she has been taken by a paedophile, how could they imagine there was no harm being done? And do they seriously imagine there would be no harm done when Madeleine woke up with strangers, never to see her family again?
Its unlikely there will be judicial justice for Madeleine, but that pair have to live with the finger pointing and innuendo, as do the twins Sean and Amelie.
My post from yesterdays joana morais site

Gina said...

Have a great day too Doc lulu
read you later TTFN x

Anonymous said...

docmac said...
Gina I'm fine thanks, as I hope you are. I have 'news' of minor interest which I shall post much later. As you say, here I go loo-de-loo ;-)

Have a great day, Gina.

Wednesday, 2 April 2008 12:17:00 o'clock BST


FOR GOD'S SAKE NOTDOC, I CERTAINLY HOPE YOUR MINOR NEWS IS MORE FORTHCOMING THAN YOUR T1 NEWS, OR THE SICK ANNOUNCEMENT WHEN YOU PROFESSED TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO MADELEINE.

YOU ARE A JOKE, PAL.

Gina said...

Mandz, as I know b all about computers and google etc. I am giving you the benefit of the doubt (something never afforded to me) but I thought the same name could not be used on a google account.

Hey, why should I care, I doubt cuppa Mandz would be over here defending me if this happened BYE ALL have to go

Anonymous said...

OH AND MORE LIKE "HERE YOU GO LOOPY LOO" SEEING AS YOU ARE ALL CLEARLY LOOPY ON HERE.

Anonymous said...

Oh Mandz you never said you were Portuguese................
Nice try..............


Mandz
Uma pessoa: A Mandz e a Ray (naum tem como escolher)^^ 15.Uma flor: Rosa ... Um dia: Domingo 29.Um barulho: Chuva *-* 30.Um ator: Rodrigo Santoro 31

LittleGreyCell said...

Hello Everyone,

Well, if penguins can fly, so might pigs...

...love the way Gerry longs for the publicity to end. If I wanted to get rid of media interest, I'd certainly be negotiating film deals and booking Elton (a very understated celebrity) to perform at an aniversary concert.

I think Gerry should also be considering a pink suit with yellow spots for the occasion. After all, he and Mr Blobby seem to speak the same language.

Blobby Blobby Blobby.

Anonymous said...

CLONE MANDZ, OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE AS THICK AS TWO SHORT PLANKS, EVERYONE KNOWS MANDZ HAS BEEN A BLOG MEMBER FOR LONGER THAN TODAY, YOU STUPID IDIOT.

Anonymous said...

LGC GO FORTH AND MULTIPLY, YOU ARE NOT FUNNY, GIVE IT UP FOR GOODNESS SAKE, YOU ARE MAKING A COMPLETE FOOL OF YOURSELF.

docmac said...

Hey loudmouthed anon

Funny you should mention T1 and what really happened to Madeleine. I guess next week should be interesting for you and your alter egos. Unless, of course, some criminal did in fact supply Team Mc with the questions that are to be asked.

Yes, 'forthcoming' would be an accurate description.

LittleGreyCell said...

ANONYMOUS,

WASN'T AWARE YOU HAD THE POWER OF VETO.

(Just speaking to it in a language it understands, Viv).

OH, AND YOU'LL FIND THE CAPS LOCK IN THE FAST LANE OF THE M1.

(Well, I thought that was funny).

Di said...

Children...

The bell has gone you will be late for class...

Anonymous said...

LGC YOU ARE TOO PATHETIC TO CONCERN ME. I JUST ENJOY THINKING OF YOU SITTING HUNCHED OVER YOUR COMPUTER TRYING DESPERATELY TO THINK UP WITTY RETORTS AND FAILING EACH TIME.
I SEE YOU HAVE GIVEN UP GOOGLING FOR YOUR ONE LINERS, AT LEAST WE HAVE THAT TO BE THANKFUL FOR.

LittleGreyCell said...

Anonymous,

Does God speak to you in capital letters?

Since you take great exception to what this site stands for, why don't you go and find another with views you can concur with?

Be kind to your blood pressure. (See, that's an even nice way of saying 'go forth and multiply').

Anonymous said...

Hey, Viv - what happened to freedom of the press?

I don't think anything happened that shouldn't have. With freedom comes RESPONSIBILITY and that is what the presses forgot. We now know that what the less reputable papers were reporting on was not always the truth. You should maybe learn from them.

Ana/Asabella, what happened to your Blog? Did you contact the PJ's to find your blog?

Anonymous said...

Mandz clone,

URL:http://www.blogger.com/profile/18138641185954737552

silly girl,...................... a 13 year old should be in school, Does mommy know where you are or she on the other computer as herself....................

Anonymous said...

To the one who wrote Mandz clone - are you a Clawdia clone or a Clawdia wannabe.

LittleGreyCell said...

Anonymous (one of you,at any rate - haven't either of you the wit even to think up a false name?),

What about the RESPONSIBILITY of Madeleine's parents to answer all the questions put to them by the police in order to find out what happened to their little girl?

How about the RESPONSIBILITY of parents taking care of their children for the total time they are in their charge of them (like normal parents), whether or not they want to go and have a good time with their friends and not have the children bothering them?

Any thoughts about the RESPONSIBILITY Kate and Gerry have to people who donated money to a fund supposedly dedicated to finding Madeleine, and not for the payment of their mortgage?

And don't forget, WE know that the Tapas Friends told the PJ various things that weren't the truth. Why aren't you bothered about this?

Anonymous said...

I think some people should be ashamed of themselves on this blog. You have lost sight ofn what is important her. It is about justice for Madeleine and all children. Leave Mrs Healy alone. She is a mother and grandmother. she is probably ashamed of her daughter's actions but is standing by her. We do not know what happened that fateful night yet, so do not know what she is protecting or whether she even knows what she is protecting. She must be hurting like hell. She has lost her grandaughter after all. She has defnitely played no part in this. You cannot put any blame on her just because she gave birth to Kate Mccann. I agree with that poster yesterday it is wrong for anyone, be it the Mccanns, the Tapas group or you to post pictures of these children by the way.
Fine discuss your theories and how terrible the group was to leave those children but remember who did wrong here.

Anonymous said...

LGC, are you capable of reading? I was answering to Viv's comment on the freedom of the press not the Tapas 9 that you are going about.

Of course, I have thoughts about responsibility of leaving children unattended but I do not believe in making one couple an 'escape goat'(scape goat).

You are all over the map, aren't you LGC? The money used for the mortgage payments. Here's my take on it. Did NOT matter one hoot what the Drs. did. When Gerry went back to work, people like you, LGC crucified him for going back to work; when they used the money for the mortgage they were crucified.

And how do you know what the Tapas 9 said? Were you involved in the interviews or are you just picking up on the leaks?

Anonymous said...

littlegreycell - I think your one and only brain cell has died - quick mrs. consecutive numbers, call in the doggies....

Anonymous said...

By the way LGC, I donated money to the Find Madeleine fund with the knowledge that the money could be used for living expenses (and mortgage payments were included in living expenses) and/or to pay for the private investigators. So, unless you donated, I don't think you can complain and if you did donate, then perhaps ask for your money back.

Anonymous said...

To The Poster Docmac.

Try not to make yourself out to be something you are not, did you realise that this is also considered a crime? Not saying that you are but impersonating a doctor and dispensing medical advice, is a crime, both on and off line. Something you may like to examine for your own information.

I make no bones about looking at other sites for or about libel, why should I?
People live and people learn and some of us are sensible enough to admit to this, only a few are so ignorant, so arrogant that they profess to know all about everything. (I always wonder how these people learn in the first place?)

Here is a little story about a fictitious online character:

There was a person that appeared on the net, he said he was not just a doctor but the head of a neonatal unit.
It was noted, that every time he was asked medical advice there would be a gap betwix the question and the answer, as the said person Googled frantically for the reply. Thing is because this person is arrogant, what he failed to notice was that sometimes his answers were mere opinions of 'real' doctors and not actual medical practice at the time of him writing the comment. This is a huge glaring mistake yes, but is a common mistake made by people that pretend to be doctors.
No this mistake went on to be repeated several times by this person.
Not only does he reply to medical questions incorrectly, he also named some of his patients on an internet forum. This is a huge NO NO, no doctor would do this, again another glaring mistake, but this time not one repeated so often as usually even a person impersonating a doctor would understand that this is just not done and is vehemently against medical ethics and cod of conduct. (Look up the Hippocratic oath)
Then there was a time when this person got himself into a real predicament over DNA, it was obvious to those that looked past his know all comments that this man was Googling for DNA evidence and trying to blind people with an unscientific background, using the complicated science of DNA and it worked in some cases, because let's face it, what normal person would be expected to be conversant with DNA? But because this person is arrogant and so full of his own poo poo, what he comprehensibly failed to understand was that others with real knowledge and a real scientific background on DNA, had again sussed him out, just as those with real medical knowledge had sussed something not quite right about his pretend medical knowledge.
Since this time this man has freely dispensed his advice and his opinions and appears to be an expert on everything from medicine to science to sport and now law and more importantly the laws of libel etc, is there no end to this person's talents?
Still this man posts his deliberations, he says he knows about things, yet when asked to reort on them persistently puts it off. he once said he knew all about the Tapas friends and that very soon he was going to report sensational news in "a few days", those few days grew to be a week, then 2 weeks then next month, well that was last year and apparently he is still waiting for this sensational news. Now this person also posted he knew what had happened to Madeleine and was too upset to talk about it then and was going off to bed and he would tell all when he returned. Well as this person has not reported back, we can only surmise that he is having a jolly good sleep because he hasn't told us what it is he has learned yet (perhaps he is also Rip Van Winkle?)
Now this person is today saying he has some minor news to break later. Although if this person was online then and the news was minor, why could he not break it then?
Doctor plonker went to foster
another shower of lies,
he stepped in the mire
right up to his middle
and drowned in his own porkie pies.

Now I do not say that I know everything, but one thing I do know about is libel laws and people on here are blatantly breaking them.
If the know all wants to try and ridicule me, I do not mind in the least and I do not mind because I am safe in the knowledge of what I am and what I do and I am not scared to admit I borrow things from elsewhere, but just because I do, this DOES NOT make them any the less true, does it?

Signed: A passing Libel Expert

(Who doesn't mnd in the slightest if you believe it or not, in fact I would urge you to always sow caution about who and what you believe)

LittleGreyCell said...

Anonymous,

Nobody is disputing that Mrs Healy must be having a tough time. Personally, I cannot recall anyone having a go at her on here.

You are right. It is important to find out what happened to Madeleine, and in a country where we have access to free speech - which enables you, Anonymous, to post your thoughts on this blog - it is our right to have discussion on the topic.

Kate and Gerry have been using the press for their own ends, and have hired professional operators in order to 'spin' on their behalf. (This is not the usual behaviour of parents in their position).

Since they have courted this publicity from day one - and since many of their immediate family spoke voluntarily to the media before professional PR people were engaged - it is not remotely likely that the public will forego their right to discussion on this tragic mystery just because the family don't like it.

The McCanns have sought, during the past 11 months, to keep themselves in the public eye. And the public do not respond kindly to moves to silence their right to freedom of expression by hired 'keyboard monkeys', who have been posting intimidating comments to various posters on site such as this with the aim of 'shutting them up'.

However, I'm sure that most people on this site feel for the members of the couple's family who are caught up in this nightmare.

But we reserve the right to have free discussion about what has become the biggest mystery of our time. Our aim is not to upset the McCanns family. It is to exercise our rights to free speech.

Joe said...

In reply to ANON, how about people impersonating parents and impersonating libel experts..... dream on.

Anonymous said...

Little grey cell. I agree completely. The publicity is shocking and quite frankly puzzling. I think Gerry Mccann is enjoying it personally.
The article above states
WE would also like to you ask you why it took you such an agonisingly long moment to explain what Kate sounded like on the telephone to you when you appeared on Panorama, what were you afraid to tell us, Mrs Healy? Then you just told us "well she was upset obviously" UPSET??

Why do you think she was asking you to get in touch with the Priest Mrs Healy, did that make your heart run cold? What were thinking when she asked for that Mrs Healy?

I don't really see the point in bringing Mrs Healy into all of this. I can hardly imagine what she must be feeling. Her daughter after all left her 3 young grandchildren alone while she socialised out of sight with friends and now one is missing, the other two possibly traumatised. How do you live with that? She may well be feeling compelled to support them in the hope that the twins are not taken away too.

docmac said...

I gave incorrect medical advice? What, because Professor Rosiepops the retired enrolled nurse said so? Because Mark14 said so? What a laugh. When I joined the DE forum and gave an opinion on the case guess who asked me what I did for a living? Yes, queen bee herself. I sometimes take a while to answer a poster? I work, you know. It's called Emergency Medicine. I can't plan my breaks like you.

Unfortunately for you, there are a number of people on this blog who know far more about me than you ever will and they know that I tell the truth. By the way, 'sweeping floors and cleaning toilets' has probably made me richer than the findmadeleine fund and the Mcs combined. Good job if you can find it, hey? Must be hell for you, sitting there typing away, cursing the lot that life handed you.

Lastly, greetings from Robbie, Sam and Kiara as well as their parents.

nancy said...

This blog, unfortunately, seems to get more like a 'tit for tat' contest every day - some of these anons are so boring - it's not as if they can string a few intelligent words together to get their fatuous points over. It's a shame there is no way they can be deleted before they get on here but then we would be deleting the anons who have something worthy to debate. So let's encourage those who have something relevant to say to at least type their names at the end so we can get to know them.

Anonymous said...

LGC - please feel free to discuss but please make sure that what you are discussing is true and you can back it up.

Joe said...

Really what the Anons are afraid of is the truth.....

LittleGreyCell said...

One or Both of the Nonymouses,

You've sussed it - I can't read!

For the record, I didn't "crucify" Gerry for going back to work.

Nor did I donate to the Madeleine Fund, but due to this Freedom of Speech thing we have in the UK, I think you'll find I can complain about what I like.

And no, I'm not a member of the PJ (my inability to read was a bit of a stumbling block there), but if the Tapas Friends had all given the same story, why would the PJ be coming to re-interview them?

Are YOU capable of thinking?

Petra said...

Oh Docmac you are such an embarrassment. If you are that rich though that would explain why you are married.

LittleGreyCell said...

Petra,

Was wondering where the Blue Peter dog had got to.

Petra said...

Nancy

You obviously haven't read the rubbish you lot are spewing.

"some of these anons are so boring - it's not as if they can string a few intelligent words together to get their fatuous points over"

nancy said...

Reading the McCann files this morning:

A Gerry quote:

"Madeleine is as close to the perfect child as you could get, you know, for someone so young, less than 4 when she was taken. She really is amazing. Nothing like this has ever happened....and I mean going with anyone she didn't know for example"...

I thought Gerry and Kate were convinced that Madeleine was abducted, not that she went with someone! Also I wouldn't imagine that Madeleine chose to go with whoever 'took' her - I suspect that if it's true she was taken, that she would have put up a good fight; she has been described as a very high spirited child, unless of course she was so tired from all that exercise at the Kid's Club, she and the twins slept through the whole terrible scene of abduction.

Petra said...

LGC

A guide dog for Docmac's wife? She must be blind to marry that.

LittleGreyCell said...

Anonymous,

Thanks, but I already feel free to discuss!

This is a discussion forum, not a court of law where I have taken an oath; I don't have to make sure everything is true before I enter into discussion about it (within the bounds of the law).

I'm sorry you feel so strongly about this case, but so do I (probably for very different reasons).

LittleGreyCell said...

Petra,

And this is helping Madeleine how?

mandz said...

anon where did i stte i was portuguese? where did I state anything other than my opinion?

Anonymous said...

LGc, sensitive aren't you? I donated money I earned to the Find Madeleine Fund before and AFTER the mortgage fiasco. They are and were free to use my donations for their mortgage payments.

You can read? No doubt but can you comprehend?

nancy said...

Petra -

Well, you confirmed what we all know because apart from your comments about our 'spews', all you did was repeat what I'd said.

By all means come on here all of you so called anons and named pros and give us some good arguments on what you believe and debate properly, and not just show yourselves up as bimbos with your gratuitous comments. Also have the gumption to put a name to your blogs as we do on here. You wont get far on your preferred site blogging in as anons will you, so why do it here!

JUSTICE FOR MADELEINE - STILL MISSING - 11 MONTHS TODAY!!

Petra said...

LGC

Is any of this helping Madeleine? Is running down her parents on a daily basis helping? Is bitching about people on the other blog helping? Are Claudia's constant foul insults helping? Is Docmac boasting about his "life" helping? Is you talking about a non-existent penguin helping?

LittleGreyCell said...

Anonymous,

Sorry - can you read me your last post?

nancy said...

LGC - Docmac

and whoever else is being insulted and not debated with properly. Just ignore their comments and they will slink away eventually with their tails between their legs. It is not helping Madeleine but just feeding their inflated egos! We can't stop them blogging, but if they can't put their name then just ignore them.

Zodiac said...

Petra,

How is your input helping?
Please tell us all how the abduction theory is possible and what evidence there is to back it up?

Nancy,

The McCann Files an excellent read.

Petra said...

Nancy

You call me Petra and tell me not to post anonymously. That says it all, doesn't it.

Debating here doesn't work unless you run down the McCanns non-stop.

I certainly did not repeat what you said and and am most definitely no bimbo. Is calling me names your idea of debating? Isnt that what you said we shouldnt be doing.

OpusThePenguin said...

I think you'll find, 'Petra' (down girl!) that if I didn't exist, I wouldn't have a google account.

Fetch!

:>~

mandz said...

nancy is an arsehole.well actually not an rsehole but the useless bit between the arsehole and the bolox.

LittleGreyCell said...
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LittleGreyCell said...

"Is you talking about a non-existent penguin helping?"

Opus says:-

Is it because I is black and white?

mandz said...

No its cos he a twat.

Anonymous said...

fuck off arrepamandz

Zodiac said...

Anon,
Is it a quiet day on the other blog, fed up talking to yourself, guess it must be boring when you know the reply to your posts before you send them. Is that why you are here? Are you feeling nervous about next week, that would explain the disgraceful posts.

marga said...

Zodiac,

Hi again. Have just returned from school and found people here bullying... and no debate on what really matters. My pupils have some respect when it comes to discuss serious issues. Sth I don't see here at the moment.

I'm going to watch that video.

Cheers

Anonymous said...

Muldoon, Areepa, Doubting Thomas, Meya, Mandz clone, probably all the same poster trying to stir on both blogs.

marga said...

Anonymous said...
fuck off arrepamandz

Wednesday, 2 April 2008 14:35:00 o'clock BST

Please show some respect to a child and people who care about her faith. Go somewhere else if you don't have decent things to comment on.

LittleGreyCell said...

10 Reasons for believing the McCanns:-

1. They're middle class.

2. They're doctors.

3. They drink wine instead of Special Brew.

4. They live in a detached house.

5. They pay a professional PR person with influential media and political contacts to spin for them.

6. They fled Portugal as soon as they were made arguidos.

7. They sue newspapers for writing about them.

8. They say things like: "Don't say anything before the mic's switched off"

9. They've met the Pope and been to the White House, and have been planning an anniversary concert since last June.

(9a. They're clairvoyant).

10. They have such a lovely bunch of people rallying around them who relentlessly threaten those who dare to discuss them on the internet.

Well, don't know about you, but I'm convinced...

marga said...

anon,

go back to your group and stop your sick posts!!
Shame on you!

dylan said...

Hello good folks (well those of you who post nicely here)

I quick glance tells me there are some nasty sorts here today. I will read back properly later.

I had a thought this morning, viv, as well as pets' corner, could we have kids' corner too?

My littlest sends me poems when she is with her father. I keep them all in a folder and email her poems back. It is sooo sweet! Here is one she sent me a couple of weeks ago (please bear in mind she is only eight!):


i cant get u on msn. oooooo i made this up


see a ten penny

dont give it away

wrap it up tight and keep it till night and sleep sweet dreames till its light



miss u xxxxxxxxxxxx
_________________________________________________________________


I just thought it might be a nice thing for us to have a place to post lovely stuff about our children and to remind ourselves that we are here for a child that may never get to express herself again. :(

Bye for now. Wish I wasn't so busy.

Dillie xxx

marga said...

marga...do one!!

dylan said...

Just a quickie -

"Mandz", Big Ben does not have any faces at all as Big Ben is actually a bell!

marga said...

ViV,
esta alguém a clonar-me.
Não fui eu a postar as 14.55!

marga said...

marga..who rattled your cage? who asked or said anything to you./? creeping bastard...dylan..you are a limp shrivelled cock!!

marga said...

marga can google translate then...woo woo multi lingual.

Anonymous said...

lgc - and they have one missing child and would give everything up in a sec to get her back.

marga said...

everything except their time to look, or time from jogging and blogging eh?

marga said...

would give everything except the roof over their heads or ANSWERS TO PJ!!!

Anonymous said...

Joe who is impersonating parents and who is impersonating a legal expert?

Head contans a brain, presumably you have one? Then try using it.

Anonymous said...

Viv,
these last posts are not mine!!!

You: THE CLONE

What a miserable creature!

melbel said...

This is outrageous, I demand you all stop this now!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Viv,
these last posts are not mine!!!

You: THE CLONE

What a miserable creature!

Wednesday, 2 April 2008 15:11:00 o'clock BST
MARGA the real one!

marga said...

anonymous you better stop this now
I am the real spartacus I mean marga!!

lizzy said...

LGC/DOCMAC/ZODIAK/DYLAN
I think the Anons, the Pro;s whose aim is to disrupt this blog are succeeding, unless people ignore them completely ,they are taking over and stopping decent discussion. Lizzy

marga said...

who are you calling a pro fuck face? aka lizzy, me charging a pkt of crisps dont make me a pro!!

Daisy said...

Lizzy

They also have a clone problem over there so don't blame them for it.

marga said...

daisy, so they say but surely they would cover themselves by doing it to themselves also.

dylan said...

What on earth is going on here today?
Marga - if i were a shrivelled, limp phallus, a) I would be male and b) My impotency would not lend itself to ejaculating any live comments, would it??

Anons and ons and ons,

Leave LGC alone and Docmac for that matter. Picking on people is a sign of cowardice and it is not as though you have any grounds to be afraid of them have you? Or are you afraid that they may be true, just and caring people? Unlike yourself? Maybe you are feeling very guilty because you have been neglectful.
Never mind, LGC and Docmac's intelligence leaves you floundering for any sensible and apt comment. Try a class in "self esteem" coupled with an injection of compassion. That should do the trick.

Hello LGC and Docmac. Sorry you have had to hold the fort!

Dillie x

marga said...
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Holly said...

Docmac's intelligence??? LGC's intelligence???? That was a good one.

marga said...

stop cloning me marga mk 2

Daisy said...

Marga

You could be doing the same couldn't you?

dylan said...

Hi Lizzy.

Quite right. I don't why I bother as i've better things to do with my life!!

Nice to read you. Glad you are here too admidst this, quite frankly, depravity!!
I was going to get on with the stuff i had to do but after reading back, felt i needed to say something. I will resist as from now...

How are you?

x

mandz said...

Loathe to posthere but just to let you know, this is my new aviator

dolores said...

This was posted on 3 Arguido's byCelticcarla.

ExCerpts from willo the wisp and Daily Mail

Gerry McCann said He knew what the pj have and why theyre considered suspects. Listed below are some of the main reasons that the Mcs were made suspects and the people who wittingly or unwittingly helped them find themselves in the arguido position they still have to bear.


GERRY MCCANN ON ACCEPTING THE ARGUIDO STATUS
Gerry 'KNOWS that, amazingly, under local laws they may have cobbled together enough to charge them'. (Local laws and cobbled, eh? - can the NOTW be much more condescending or dismissive? ) A case worth prosecuting will normally not rely too much on either forensic, circumstantial or witness evidence, but would need to have sufficient evidence in each of these areas. Gerry is quoted as saying:

"Now I've seen what they've got I'm actually clearer in my mind why they've shifted and treated us so differently.

"I'm still concerned with their perception of the evidence, but that's for us to sort out with legal support."

So what have they got, what has Gerry seen? He's not allowed to discuss it, as an arguido, so we just have to wonder.
"It is common practice for those closest to a missing person to be watched closely and the McCanns are now no different.

"They, like all suspects, are being closely monitored as no stone is left unturned."

...body language experts from Bramshill Police College in Basingstoke, Hants, put together a report on the McCanns' behaviour after studying hours of TV footage.
The specialists scrutinised every interview - live and recorded - given by the couple since May 3.
A secret dossier of the findings has been handed to detectives leading the investigation. So I would love to know what this dossier contains and surely it is on hand for the questioning.

Kate is suspected of ‘homicide by negligence and hiding the body” ( the latter constitutes a sentence of up to two years in prison). A circumstance confirmed in principle by the spokesperson Justine McGuinness who said “ the portuguese police suspect Kate of having accidently killed her child”. However, sources connected to the inquiry have revealed that Gerry has admitted to the investigators he had administed a sedative to the children on the night of May 3rd. And one of the investigation lines followed at this moment is precisely, as the DN has gathered, the hypotheis that the child was sedated with an overdose of medication

According to sources connected with the enquiry, the PJ suspect that Madeleines mother is mentally unstable, and the crime could have occured in the apartment from which the child disappeared, as a result of an “aggression” by Kate. Another suspicion put forth by the sources is linked to the fact that Maddie had died before dinner. The same sources admit that the situation got complicated and the parents got disoriented which led them to hide the body which is yet to be found.

The witnesses that shake the friends’ group version

The contradictions that were found in the versions of the group of friends of the McCann couple have mainly been evidenced by depositions from Pamela Fenn, a neighbor of Gerry [and] Kate in the Ocean Club apartment, and from Dianne Webster, 63, the mother of Fiona Payne, who was present at the dinner of May 3 with her husband.
Pamela Fenn was heard by PJ on Monday for 4 hours, and her deposition shows some important details. The most relevant one is in the difference of 40 minutes between the moment when she offered to call the police for Kate McCann, who then said she had already done so, and the registered time of the call to GNR, informing of Madeleine’s disappearance. This witness, who was counseled by PJ not to make any statements to the media, also said she heard the child crying for her father, on the eve of her disappearance.

Dianne Webster is also a witness of some importance. The version that was presented by Maddie’s parents and by other members of the group, that there was a kind of rotation in the checks on all of their children, who had stayed each in their apartment, was not confirmed by Dianne Webster. In the version that she told the investigators, Dianne Webster, the grandmother of two of the children that were at the Ocean Club, did not confirm that organization of the couples to check their children in the apartments, and said each was responsible for ‘watching’ their own children. There are also mismatching versions about who got up during dinner to go to the bedrooms.

Russel Obrien and David Payne Pact of Silence

“I have nothing further to tell you. I am not going to dishonor the compromise I assumed with Kate and Gerry. They want to control all information that is disclosed”. Russell O Brien

“We have a pact. This is our matter only. It is nobody else’s business”, says David Payne

Wizard said...

Very desperate measures by the pro McCann lobby today makes me wonder if charges are likely to be brought sooner rather than later.

If as a McCann supporter you had heard through the family/pr grapevine of arrests it would indeed be a very difficult time, therefore, to cause maximum disruption to sites like this would in my view make complete sense.

Perhaps today’s disruptive posts can be seen as confirmation for the regular posters on this site’s beliefs. Although it is nice to know we were right it is also sad to see this level of desperation.

Regards to All.

dylan said...

Holly,

No it wasn't a "good one". It's not difficult to speak the truth and so i can't take any credit for it being "a good one". Sorry deary, but you'll have to keep the oscar for someone that deserves it!

Lizzie, lol, resistance didn't last long did it?!

x

Daisy said...

This blog is awful

Anonymous said...

VIV,
the post below was my genuine post here. All the others taht came with my avatar ARE NOT MINE.

Please email Claudia. I told her about this.

TX,
Marga
_________________
marga said...
anon,

go back to your group and stop your sick posts!!
Shame on you!

Wednesday, 2 April 2008 14:52:00 o'clock BST

Anonymous said...

To late Mandz clone,
seems you removed your profile now.......................
When your 14 you might be a bit better on PC.
Tell your mommmy and aunty they have not taught you very well............
Arepa is pratontheprowl by the way but bet you already know that on here...............................

marga said...

Anonymous said...
VIV,
the post below was MY LAST genuine post here. All the others taht came with my avatar ARE NOT MINE.

Please email Claudia. I told her about this.

TX,
Marga
_________________
marga said...
anon,

go back to your group and stop your sick posts!!
Shame on you!

Wednesday, 2 April 2008 14:52:00 o'clock BST

Wednesday, 2 April 2008 15:35:00 o'clock BST

Honesty said...

Dylan. You said "Picking on people is a sign of cowardice and it is not as though you have any grounds to be afraid of them have you?"

That works both ways I believe. Think of the many loyal posters to this blog who constantly call the pro's names. Think back to the names Rosiepops has been called over and over again. Think about the constant insults that come out of Claudia's mouth. I could go on and on. As for docmac, Leigh, Viv and several others, they constantly insult the pro's and call them evil names.
This blog is supposed to be about justice for Madeleine, not shit stirring, insulting other people.
So before you go on the attack towards the pro's try putting your own house in order.

mandz said...

anonymous didnt your mommy teach you mommy has double m not triple? perhaps you are focusing on your own shortcomings and projecting them to me

hope4truth said...

Oh Dear who left the door open Gate Crashers are so Crass...

Who was it that said that maybe Shannons family were involved with her abduction to make money like the McCanns (I know a lot of people thought it) and was jumped on by the Anon Idiots for being soooooo insensitive and evil???? I see her Stepfather has been arested today for having child pornography on his computer yet the Pros stood up for this fine pervert and told us this site was sick for sugesting something was not right.

I pray for Shannons sake her Mother was not involved and may now wake up and realise that your children are a more important part of your life than any freind or partner.

Rather be here than on a site that supports child neglect x

marga said...

I changed my avatar but doubt if they are not going to clone it again.

What a life do they have. Nothing more interesting than playing in a blog. What respect do they show to a child that is missing. What a scum!

mandz said...

fun and games here isnt it.

dylan said...

"Honesty" is that what you stand for?

My house is very much in order, thank you very much & I don't need to bother with trying to defend myself.
Thank you for your kind concern.

hope4truth said...

Hi Dyl

How are you today it is busy isnt it???

LGC are you still about?

dylan said...

Mandz, without wanting to stick up for the anonymouse, have you a pilot for an avatar? If so I apologise. If not, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!!

Anonymous said...

Just read rosis blog the nutters are also cloning avators how can they do this?

hope4truth said...

Anon

It is very easy you just have to copy it and save it in your photos you do not need any brain cells to do it :o)

Anonymous said...

Sorry to post this here, but this thing called Mandz needs psychiatric treatment!

Mandz said...
Sass,

Here I am the real me!! New avatar!

02 April 2008 15:40

What a sick person you are!
You camer here to disrupt the forum and now have the guts to use an image of a baby as your avatar.
SILLY FOOL!

Marga

dylan said...

Hello Hope, my friend!

Thank goodness you are here! I was just going as I've loads to do but will always stick around for you. (must go in a bit though)

Yes it is "busy" here isn't it? I would say it's as busy as hornets' nest - loool! Yukk, I really hate waspy things.

Eldest daughter has come home today, nicked my clothes (i should be flattered really) including a pair of eighties braces which are apparently in at the moment and demanded that I pluck her wyebrows tonight and dye her hair. I said, just as she was going out of the door; "sure, no problem, I had nothing planned for tonight anyway......" The cheeky monkey.

What do you think of my suggestion to kids' corner? I don't want to put too much on viv.

Dyl xxx

Anonymous said...

This is marga, from now on I will say so at start, I have not posted untill now without an aviator the person signing as me is not me.

Anonymous said...

This is childish, its happening on both sides, soon we wont know who to trust and who is who. Please lets call a truce, I notice the people being cloned are out spoken sometimes aggresive ones, the ones who mind their business dont get cloned, is there a clue in there?

hope4truth said...

Dyl

Hello oh kids are great they dont think we have lives of our own LOL

I missed the Kids Corner thing will have another scroll back..

Have the Anons really got anything to say or are they just really stupid if they dont like the site why bother reading it???

I am off in a minute I have a meeting may catch you later xxx

dylan said...

To the REAL Marga,

I apologise to you if I have mistaken you for saying what your filthy clone said.

Dyl x

Anonymous said...

CLONE AGAIN
Anonymous said...
This is marga, from now on I will say so at start, I have not posted untill now without an aviator the person signing as me is not me.

Wednesday, 2 April 2008 15:57:00 o'clock BST

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This was not mine!

Rosieposta de merda is giving them instructions how to behave by e-mail!!

Marga

Anonymous said...

From marga Marga you are in big trouble if you do not stop this now, I am reporting you.

mandz said...

Thanks dylxx from marga

lizzy said...

Dyl,
Hi nice to see you to be honest am not posting at the moment as site is full of people trying to stir trouble, will come back later when hopefully it will eb the normal posters. Nothing much gets discussed when they arrive en masse with their unpleasant crazy comments, which is probably the reason for them doing it...lol See you later Dyl take care Lizzy.

dylan said...

Marga, I know!!

The anon has given itself away with saying "aviator" instead of "avatar" AGAIN. I think you will find it is the stupid person that is calling itself "Mandz". Scroll back and you will see what I mean. Kettle, pot, black, calling, the... rearrange & see for yourself!!

Dyl x

Anonymous said...

dylan said...
To the REAL Marga,

I apologise to you if I have mistaken you for saying what your filthy clone said.

Dyl x

Wednesday, 2 April 2008 16:02:00 o'clock BST

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Dylan,
no need to apologise.

only they have to do is to copy the image and to all the dirty paste.
It speaks volumes. They are desperate and afraid of losing their job.

God forgive their little souls!


Marga

ICantThinkOfAName said...

Can I bring a little sanity back to this forum and post a report from the (Brighton) Argus about a person who has been mentioned many times on Madeleine forums but not directly or indirectly involved in the "mystery".

"Sarah Payne's mother visits Sussex court
By Alison Cridland

The mother of murdered schoolgirl Sarah Payne has made a return visit to the court where her daughter's killer was jailed for life.

Sara Payne was speaking at Lewes Crown Court to volunteers working for the witness service, which provides support for victims and witnesses giving evidence in court proceedings.

Her eight-year-old daughter was murdered in July 2000 after disappearing while playing in a cornfield near the home of her grandparents in Kingston Gorse, near Littlehampton.

Her body was found 17 days later by a farm labourer in a field near Pulborough, 15 miles away.

Mechanic Roy Whiting, 49, who was renting a flat in Littlehampton, was convicted of her abduction and murder after a trial at Lewes Crown Court in the autumn of 2001.

Whiting, who denied the charges but already had a conviction for abduction and sexually assaulting a child, was sentenced to life imprisonment with a recommendation that he is never released from jail.

Since her death the little girl's mother has campaigned tirelessly for Sarah's Law, which aims to allow access to the sex offenders register so parents with young children can know if a child sex offender is living in their area.

Sara has also been giving talks to people working within the justice system to help them understand the difficulties facing victims of crimes and their families who are called to give evidence at trials."

This I think shows how she is working for the common good.

dylan said...

Thanks Lizzie.

I wish I had your restraint. You were right before & I know you are right again.
I will be back tonight also when I have finished daughter's pampering session and hopefully, when this blog is back to humanitarian kindness again.

Have a good afternoon.

xxx

Gina said...

Was just reading back and seen what is going on. Someone said this is also going on on the other site (don't know haven't looked and not going too). All I can say for what it is worth is I do not think it fair for them to blame this site or us to blame them for this stupidity. IMO for what it is worth it is just people trying to cause trouble on all blogs and stop debate on both sides. I do not understand how someone can take another persons blog name, but nothing new there because as you all know my computer skills are zero. What I do know is that these clones should have done more research before acting this way as it is obvious they do not write in the same style as those they are cloning. Nevertheless it is working to some extent in disrupting the blogs. Personally it does not effect me because I have said the way I feel, have been on the fence with regards to who did what, but have been critical of the McCanns marketing their daughter and of course leaving the kids in the first place. Soon hopefully the truth will out, (although sadly somehow I doubt that the real truth will ever be known).

It is good to share views, but sometimes it does get out of hand on both sides and sometimes I am sure we do not agree with others on the blog we are posting on (Well maybe we agree but would not put the view quite so strongly or something like that). I think, as today seems to be a completely crazy day, I will not comment further and go take the dogs for a walk instead. Let's hope this sad saga ends soon before more people loose their sanity over it.

dylan said...

ICTOAN,

Sarah Payne's murder really upset me and it still brings a lump to my throat today. It came at a time when my own baby was only 14 months old and i was especially sensitive, given my hormones. The same thing happened when my first born was a baby and Jamie Bulger was murdered by two infants themselves.

My youngest is now eight years old, the same age as Sarah was when she was taken. This is certainly a reality check and I have always said that the bitchiness and gossipmongering is so inappropriate in Madeleine's name. I tried to steer things back earlier towards the cause, which is the missing child, but I got called a shrivelled c**k for my efforts.

Thank you for trying to get things back on track here & I hope you succeed as all this is just unutterably foul.

I wonder what Docmac's news could be? It is promising that we have some movement towards answers.

Dyl xx

dolores said...

Exeter Express & Echo
1st April 2008

Portuguese police are to visit next week to re-interview the friends of Kate and Gerry McCann.
Jane Tanner and her partner Russell O'brien, who works at the Royal Devon and Exeter Hospital, are close friends of the McCanns.

They were part of the so called "Tapas Nine" who were having dinner together on the night that Madeleine McCann disappeared.
The group of friends are being re-interviewed about the case by police. The pair declined to comment on the development of the high profile case yesterday.
Speaking on the doorstep of their city home, Mr O'Brien said neither he or Ms Tanner wanted to speak about the interviews and added that he was unhappy with the attention that he and his family had received from the media over the past year.
Officers are expected to arrive in Britain on April 7th. They will not be interviewing the McCanns, whose four-year-old daughter Madeleine disappeared from the Portuguese resort of Praia Da Luz on May 3 last year.

The officers plan to sit in while others from Leicestershire Constabulary interview their friends.

A spokeswoman for the British force said "We will be co-ordinating the execution of the request for mutual legal assistance made by the Portuguese authorities.
"the Portuguese authorities have asked that the contents of the request and the way it is being executed be kept confidential so as not to prejudice the investigation."

dylan said...

Gina, entirely agree.

Got stuck here when i shouldn't have. I will take leaf out of your book and take Dylan for a walk! (for those of you who don't know, he is my dog!)

xx

docmac said...

Just a news flash

Zimbabwe's combined opposition has won a majority in parliament, defeating President Robert Mugabe's Zanu-PF party, the electoral commission said on Wednesday.

Zodiac said...

Dylan,

Lovely poem from your little one, thanks for sharing.

Dolores,

Thank you for your articles.

Wizard 15.32pm,

I think you have hit a nail on the head.

isis said...

docmac and a win for the pool tonight please !! Not going to watch.

dolores said...

Zodiac,
I hope you are well.:)
I had to find the longest article,to try and disrupt the cyberbullies.As responding to them in any way just gives them satisfaction.And they will not get that from me.

xx D

docmac said...

Isis :-)

Anonymous said...

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/04/mccanns-secrecy-of-justice-up-to-august.html


Marga

isis said...

Doc.... :))) or :((((( !!!

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viv said...

Hi All

I have been busy today and not able to moderate this blog and am disgusted by some of the posts from so called McCanns supporters anons etc.

I am turning on google accounts holders only so that any further abuse can be traced back to the writer of it.

I would ask my regular posters to please NOT RESPOND to abuse then it is a simpler matter for me to delete offensive posts.

Viv x

Anonymous said...

well said viv.

hope4truth said...

Hey Viv

Will try to show some restraint...

Have you had a nice day xxx

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dolores said...

We all know who was hired to disrupt the investigations,it was no secret.I hope they find out who is responsible for this,and they get severely punished.And who knows the arguido status on K &G could be extended due to this.
D


Enfants Kidnappes
2 02 2008

The secret was not respected!

It SOS Madeleine who demonstrates, the hearings would be seriously compromised after disclosure of the contents of the letters rogatory and part of the British version of the file!It is a source within the Leicestershire Constabulary, which advance information. A copy of said document being even arrived in possession of SOS Madeleine.The content of the letters rogatory, as well as part of the dossier, was copied and sent to a former police officer, now in the private sector, close to a witness and interested in the progress of investigations.In recent months of waiting have been exploited by witnesses to prepare for the upcoming hearings.Certain among them, and not least according to the same source, received via lawyers and former members of the British police, instructions and information on how to respond to questions prepared by Paulo Rebelo and team.

The secret of Justice lifted in a fortnight?

Kate and Gerry could see the secret of justice, that affects the case since the beginning, lifted in a fortnight. Le secret de justice sur l'enquête mené par la PJ portugaise sur la disparition de Madeleine devrait se terminer pour le 14 avril. The secret of Justice on the investigation conducted by the Portuguese GP on the disappearance of Madeleine expected to be completed by 14 April. Thus, if there is no specific charges against parents or McCann decision to close the case without further action, Kate and Gerry could consult the record.

The spokesperson for the parents said: "We hope that the police will do what it takes. Let me add that once they have completed interviews with friends holiday Kate and Gerry, they should return to Portugal and evaluate the evidence and Kate and Gerry eliminate from the list of "arguidos." To enable everyone, once again, to focus on the search for Madeleine. "

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marga said...

Viv,

I've got the feeling that they only can clone us when we have signed up to post. Or is it not so?

I've noticed this blog does not allow anonymous posters. Do you think it avoids cloning? I doubt.

dylan said...

Docmac,

Have been following the "elections" with interest. Mugabe's attempts to twist the results thankfully appear to have failed. Papers report that he is "in talks" and that his advisors have told him quit, rather than be humiliated in the face of such strong opposition [as voted] in Tsvangirai.

I sincerely hope so. His previous rigging of votes had rendered the so-called democracy a dictatorship.

How do you think things will change for Zimbabwe now? Apart from the obvious, of course?

Viv - I will try my best not to feed them. Sorry.

x

hope4truth said...

Dolores

Did you have a good time on Sunday??? xxx

Di said...

Hope

15.41 post

Well said.

Gina

I looked in earlier and did exactly the same as you, took my dog for a walk and cleared my head.

I agree with you, I think some of these anons are purely out to cause trouble. Hopefully when the Easter Hols are over and the children go back to school things will calm down.

I am sorry for the way this forum has gone today, clones don't surprise me, as it happened to me on DX hys. How they do it I do not know, and quite honestly I don't care, the regular posters know who the imposters are.

I agree with an earlier poster, I think it was Nancy, sorry if wrong, I have not got time at the moment to look back, this is not what we are here for and I for one do not like the bad language it is so pointless, and in my mind fails to get the point across.

As regards Kate's mother, I do feel for her, it must be devastating to lose a grandchild, under any circumstances, let alone dubious ones. I am sure if I was in her position, I would be extremely angry at the neglect but also want to protect my daughter as well. A no win situation.

On and off as very busy but will try and keep looking in.

isis said...

Viv, looks like you are going to have a busy evening, Have just finished a stint of night duty in an acute psychiatric unit and think some may have followed me home!

hope4truth said...

DI

It was a good post but it wasnt me???

I dont mind taking credit for it though but dont want to cheat :o) xxx

marga said...

Isis,

yes. They are trying to inpersonate clan McCann LOL!

Gerry. said...
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marga said...

Well,

I'll leave you now. However, I'll come back later to see if anyone here was pretending to be me again.


CU later!

marga said...

BTW

On the other blog they are allowing sick gerry to post.
Smell a rat?

Bye!

Phil said...
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isis said...

marga, i got more sense out of someone in a catatonic state last night. Its very sick.

dolores said...

Hope 4 Truth,
We has a marvelous 2 days,of surprises for my Mama she was so overwhelmed,at how we kept it a secret.She will be talking about it for months, bless her.

XX D

hope4truth said...

Dolores

Oh that is wonderful... Did you take lots of pictures???

You will be talking about it for years, I was thinking of you on Sunday I am so pleased you kept it a secret xxx

dolores said...

Hope 4 truth,
We all took pictures,but the Ritz would only let us take them on their staircase not in the Palm Court, they are are super nonetheless.They had a resident pianist there and they played
'HAPPY BIRTHDAY' as the waiter brought out a little birthday cake for her with a candle,and happy birthday written in chocolate on the plate,they even gave her a gift,all of the diners clapped and cheered her, then she burst into tears.And we all did after that. LOL.


XX D

XX D

marga said...

This is a copy of a post to Paulo Reis. He is back and was already questioned by a pro Mc Cann.

helenm said...
Good morning,

Glad to hear that you are relatively fit and well. I am what you may have heard others refer to as a 'pro Mccann'. Are you able to disclose on this site whether you have checked your facts with regard to the following quote:

'the fact that the Tapas Group had access to the content of the rogatory letters and part of the police files about the investigation of Madeleine’s disappearance – I must say that this shouldn’t be a surprise, for those who have been following this case.'

02 April 2008 11:08
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hope4truth said...

Dolores

I would have been in tears as well what a lovely day...

I have to go and collect my daugter may see you later xxx

marga said...

Well...

I can't wait for another member of the clan.

marga said...

Sorry Viv,

but what a collection for the family album!

Daisy said...
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marga said...

Indeed after my comment. But why does it not come there as deleted post?

You kiss both MC Cann's backside.

Alsabella doesn't need anyone to stand by her. She is strong and intelligent enough to speak for herself unlike many people who don't have their own brain.

Cheers!

dylan said...

Delores,

What a lovely story you have returned with. I am so pleased that it all went so well. I hope she has decades to go to carry her lovely memories from Sunday. I bet she has a new-found flush in her cheeks!

Dylan xx

Gina said...

Hello to the sane on any blog. Does anybody actually know if this as posted above is true or not

'the fact that the Tapas Group had access to the content of the rogatory letters and part of the police files

If it is, then it should concern all, not matter what side of the fence you are on, this is hampering a police investigation and if this sort of thing is allowed to happen, one day it might apply to a case which you have strong views about and the guilty person may get away with it because they have prepared in advance. Forget the McCanns for a minute and think about it

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