28 Apr 2008

KATE AND GERRY CONTRADICT EACH OTHER - PANORAMA NOVEMBER 2007

Just before we apparently see Kate McCann shedding real tears for herself as the PJ prepare to charge her, let us recall how many tears she was shedding for Madeleine, back in PDL ..Gerry too. Does this look like a devastated couple? Where are the twins?

Thanks for the Pic Swedishmum, I have a feeling I will be using this, time and again!
Viv x


















A 120 metre walk, via a circuitous route around the pool. To check on all the sleeping children required a meandering detour that almost doubled the distance between the bar and the McCanns' apartment. From the tapas bar, only the very top of the balcony of the McCanns' ground floor apartment 70 metres away across the pool is visible. A large whitewashed wall and thick bushes obscure the view from the poolside tables. So, the McCanns could not even see their apartment, let alone see or hear their little children, from where they sat consuming vast quantities of alcohol. It was nothing like being in the back garden was it? As Kate herself says in a statement she gave to private detectives, the night before, little Madeleine and Shaun were crying their eyes up for a mum (and dad too, he is just as bad), who sat drinking and just did not care. It meant one of the party would have to walk from the bar around the pool, and out through the security gate of the Ocean Club, a distance of some 60 metres.
Once out of the complex, they would have turned left on to Rua Dr Francisco Gentil Martins, a public road, and go a further 60 metres up the hill, through a three-foot high gate which cannot be locked, up a flight of steps and then in through rear patio doors, which were not apparently locked.
The apartment is not inside the Mark Warner complex itself but sits on the corner of two roads. On the corner of two roads, and right next a large pool, but Kate McCanns says "why did I think that was safe". Well yes Kate, why?? The front door of the apartment is on the other side of the building from the tapas bar, on Rua Dr Agostinho da Silva. The rear patio doors through which the adults would enter to check on the sleeping children faces on to a walkway, again open to the public.
With two entrances - neither of which can be seen from the restaurant where the McCanns were dining on 3 May - the apartment is impossible to monitor from the tapas bar. Now they want us to feel sorry for them and understand they just made a mistake in leaving their children exposed to this night after night. I dont understand and what is more, I never will..Kate says in Panorama we all knew what we had to do..apparently meaning this so called system of regular checks on the children. I do not think that is what she was talking about at all..


I have been looking at the Panorama transcript again. Bearing in mind this was a programme put out by the McCanns, months later, where they had chance to perfectly synchronise their stories there is one thing that has always seriously baffled me, the lie that Kate McCann lives and breathes. That some predator broke into that apartment and " stole Madeleine out of her bed".

If you just look at the two extracts below Gerry says after his check he went back out through the unlocked patio doors, but Kate says just the opposite. Even when they are putting on a show to defend themselves on the most fundamental issue they just do not agree. This is the nub of this case isnt it, there was no break in, there was no predator. There were no damaged shutters or jemmied window. Mark Williams Thomas, an ex police constable and media spokesman now claims in The Times some opportunistic predator just took Madeleine, trouble is according to Kate he broke in and "they" had been lurking and spying on them, not that they would have seen of course. Thomas changes his tune almost as often as I change pants and is certainly no "criminologist" as he claims. Gerry knows what he told his relatives cannot be right so he changed his story. How could anyone take this couple and their contradictory lies, right from the off, seriously or indeed Justine McGuiness or Mark Williams Thomas? Do reports in the media just before the "anniversary" from such people change the basic facts and that even Kate and Gerry cannot agree because they know their story is like a sieve? Well no, of course they dont!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/7106086.stm
KATE: It's not about us, you know, we were bobbing back and forwards several times and I wanted to see the kids so.. you know, it's not about us. You know, I think that the problem is it's a predator basically who's been watching us, which gives you the shivers anyway, and broken into the apartment and taken Madeleine out of her bed.

Gerry McCann says he went at just after 9 to check on his children. He says that their bedroom door was more open than usual so he goes in. Gerry McCann has told Panorama he remembers looking down at Madeleine. He spent a moment thinking how beautiful she looked and how lucky he was. He says this was the last time he saw his daughter. He closes the bedroom door and leaves through these unlocked patio doors.

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Rori Hegarty said...

Rat , thank you , have just watched it again and nearly lost my breakfast !! Isnt Clarence odious?

atardi said...

Docmac/Isis,

You are right. If it wasn't for ROTB I wouldn't be able to do one of those hyperlink things like Isis said.

Maybe when this whole sad case is over RP will send ROTB a message thanking her for all the skills she learned from Rat.

Cláudia said...

If WE can't see it, neither can anybody else! And what is the point of a forum if nobody can find it :-?
--------------------------------

Hey, Rat! Exactly! I call it an answer to my prayers! :-)

I might not be around as much in the next few days. Having my furnitured changed, room painted, etc. :-)

Hope you are all well!

Gina said...

SPECIAL REQUEST FOLKS

So that I can get Supertroll off my back can I please ask those of you that are deranged to urgently seek help. Thank you

dolores said...

Claudia,
They must be ashamed in what they write or they would have no need to hide it.They are welcome to their dark cave,long may stay there.
XX D

Rori Hegarty said...

Gina, take no notice, supertrolls blog is only going to be used as a sniping platform from now on just dont go there.

docmac said...

Thanks, Rat. It seems that doesn't work either.

Gina, no problem. Wibble.

docmac said...

Hey Claudia

That's no excuse. There's a Wi-Fi hotspot just down the road from you in Huelva :-)

Gina said...

Isis you are right of course, but this morning I saw a message for me from tinkerbell which I answered I thought fairly, then supertroll came on and started her usual tripe. Whether the posts are still there I don't know as she said she would delete my posts. So typical, remove the answers and leave people to guess what they were. She is really p.ssed off with me because she wanted my views on certain posters on here and I said no comment. To her that means I was unable to defend them, to me it was a case of not being drawn into an argument. I personally cannot see what she thinks she is achieving, she says we do not care about Madeleine but all of the posts on there just seem as you say a platform for sniping at other posters. It does nothing to stretch the mind and make you think they have something worth listening to. All beyond me see you later

Gina said...

Doc thanks for the no problem, but what was the problem??

docmac said...

Gina,

As I've finally been convinced by the pros that I'm deranged I will help to get the troll off your back by seeking help. No problem. Wibble wibble ;-)

Unknown said...

Morning all

I just thought I should point out to Nancy that actually Docmac is a red-blooded male:-)

I do think the reason they removed all their comments is because they are often very racist and to start on the Muslims also would have been a disastrous move, particularly given I have a post where Rosie did so, in the most offensive way, several months ago.

They know they are completely over the top and there is nothing they can legitimately say to defend these two who continue to make money out of their own involvement in the death and disappearance of little Madeleine.

I would also say I find it hard to believe they were content with just £10,000 for the Find Maddie Fund. As we know this is a small amount of money to them, they normally like to talk in terms of tens of thousands or even millions. Neither the TV company or the McCanns would have to disclose any payment made direct to them. Can anyone seriously believe they made this documentary out of the goodness of their hearts? Having said that drumming up sympathy for Kate seems to be very important to them! I will continue to publish the photos that so clearly demonstrated she had no sympathy for little Madeleine. She can whine as much as she likeS and should get herself back to PDL and co-operate in the police reconstruction.

Anonymous said...

Claudia I see your blog was mentioned on 3 A's, well done. I wish you every success.

Please delete below if you wish. I was having a read at your blog and saw this reply from you. LOL!.

'Anonymous, thank you. I hope you have enjoyed your wee in Portugal in spite of the not so good weather.'



28 de Abril de 2008 20:33

librarising said...

Gina I think it's great that you engage in debate other other forums, and such a pity that some posters there try to shut it down again by turning it personal.

However I am grateful for to supertroll for his/her concern and will certainly seek help if I seem to be turning into docmac again.

Unknown said...

Hiya Libra

Maybe we should all thank Supertroll for her expert advice into the mental illness every poster on this blog suffers from, after all, she clearly has a lot of personal experience and insight to aid her en masse diagnosis x

librarising said...

Viv, yes I expect before very long we'll start exhibiting symptoms of advanced paranoia, like becoming strangely obsessed with the posters on a website and writing exclusively about them and about nothing else, with descriptive terms drawn from a very limited lexicon (basically rearranging the words sick vile and creep in various combinations).

Let's hope we never get quite that deranged eh viv.

docmac said...

By the way my new avatar is dedicated to the following posters:

Dozypops, Blandz, Christabile, Thinkerbell, Chinadole, Helbel, Calbite, Bum21, Phonypony, Horse's Ass, Horse' sass, InsaneGT, Superdrol (Babelfish drol, bitch) and Anonymous 1-4.

BBFN

Cláudia said...

Hey Claudia

That's no excuse. There's a Wi-Fi hotspot just down the road from you in Huelva :-)

..................................

Doc, lololol

Zodiac, that was supposed to be WEEK! lololol Tha PJ deserve that blog!

Viv, darling, How are you? :-)
I think it is GREAT news that they cannot be read. As for the xenophobic, racist posts, too late. I have got them all! :-)

librarising said...

But Viv, we'd really know we were deranged if we started labouring under the delusion that doctors weren't really doctors at all but were secretly four other people. I mean I've had my faith in doctors shaken quite a bit recently, as some of them are clearly two people at once, but four? Even I'm not that deranged. Not even when I'm docmac.

Cláudia said...

Dolres, of course they are ashemaed. They are so ashamed that some of the posters have given up. Maybe they started reading what their friends wrote! ;-)

ratonthebeam said...

I have not read the Supertroll blog since she had a go at Swedishmum, which I thought was actually quite disgusting (as well as uncalled for and completely inaccurate). I just don't go there anymore at all, and my life is all the sweeter for it.

However, I am not expecting this Utopian state to last. She cannot help herself, and eventually will come back here, or go elsewhere, to post her rabid rubbish in the hope that somebody, somewhere, will read it. The others are the same. They will eventually give themselves away through their own vanity and stupidity, like they did last time, and it is then up to everyone else here whether they wish to engage with them or not.

Personally I have much more appealing things to be getting on with, like cleaning out the cat litter box for example.

Joe said...

If the McCanns are getting or have received £10,000 from ITV they will be satisfied with that as they get 2 hours of glorification on prime time TV, advertizing themselves. It is a bargain for them, promote their view, acting skills. real tears, books,cuddly toys, a film, Amber alert, star quality, the list is endless. I bet they would have paid ITV for such a golden opportunity.

librarising said...

Doc your spelling it getting worse. Just because you can no longer check the spelling of all those lovely names on sweet'n Sassy's kittenish fairyland of a blog. I know they can't spell your name either but that is their personal misfortune and if you were better bred you would politely draw a veil over it. Hope this isn't the first sign of derangement.

librarising said...

Joe -

You think they'll be promoting cuddly toys? Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

Gina said...

Libra my big mistake has been to try and engage in debates on both sides. I thought it would be possible considering I am on the fence, but alas no. To be honest although I do not care what people think of me I am getting tired on constantly being accused of stirring and being two faced and being told that I am not really wanted on any site. I have therefore made the decision not to bother anymore posting anywhere. All I want to see is justice done, and am going to leave those that have the powers to sort this mess out to do so.

Best wishes to you all

librarising said...

- as to the shutting down of blogs, there can be number of reasons for this. There are such things as terms of use agreements which usually forbid personal abuse, 'stalking' and 'outing', and there are complaints procedures to service providers which can be used if those terms seem to have been breached.

ratonthebeam said...

Gina, who told you that you were not wanted on any site? You must know that that is not true :-(

Rori Hegarty said...

Kate and Gerry exclusive in this weeks hello.

Cláudia said...

Gina, get yout butt back in here. I do not care if you are on the fence. If you leave you will do exactly what the people who have insulted you wanted all along. And moreover, I think you have always been welcomed here. Now stop being silly and get beack here right now, neighbour, before I lose my patience, walk two blocks and drag you here. :-)

Rori Hegarty said...

Gina, get back here now please !!

librarising said...

Gina, you made the right decision. If the public ever looked at their page it would be worth keeping up the effort to represent what the vast majority of people think and resisting the spin, but they could spin like dervishes forever on that page and no-one would notice. But let me say again how I admire your efforts to keep open a proper debate.

SwedishMum said...

Hi Rat, Gina and all!

"Gina, who told you that you were not wanted on any site? You must know that that is not true :-("

"The Others" have been saying that for a long time now.

Gina,
don't go! You know I'll miss you!!!

Gina said...

Ratty, nobody did but I do feel out of place anywhere.

librarising said...

Isis - you are having a giraffe surely?

librarising said...

(I meant about Hello magazine, obviously...)

Gina said...

Hi Swedish just lets leave it like it is because the next thing will be I only said I am going to get attention for myself. I have just had enough, and it looks like another three months of this to go.
I cannot comment on the case for that long, and I cannot mess the blog up with jokes and cleaning tips. Take care all

librarising said...

"but I do feel out of place anywhere." (Gina)

That's because you're larger of mind than anyone else.

ratonthebeam said...

Gina, why not just "lurk" for a bit and only post if you feel you really need to? Sometimes I think we all get a bit McCanned Out and have to have a break!

Gina said...

Ratty you are so right, I am McCanned out

librarising said...

Gina the purpose you serve is to open minds. Unsurprisingly that's hard to do over on you-know-where, but the fact is that it's necessary over here sometimes too.

I imagine some of us could do with a cleaning tip or too as well...

Gina said...

Libra I know docmac needs the cleaning tips to further his career in the mop and bucket profession :-)

librarising said...

Well being well over 35 I am not given to the use of the phrase Oh My God, but Isis...

Oh My God!

SwedishMum said...

"McCanned Out" :-) - love that expression!
But seriously Gina,
are you really going to leave me all by myself up there on the bl***y fence (see now you got me swearing as well, and I can tell you I never swear!)?

librarising said...
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LittleGreyCell said...

Hello,

What's "Oh My god?". Has Clarrie changed his shirt or something?

Cláudia said...

Guys, bloody is considered swearing? Oh my... :-)

SwedishMum said...

Claudia,

There you see how innocent I am :-)

librarising said...

And Gina, the Spin Penguin leaves a trail of herring scales wherever he goes.

[Sorry, typos getting out of hand due to onset of derangement no doubt]

LGC - K&G are in Hello! Perhaps we will get a peek through the keyhole of their lovely home. Perhaps Kate will give us all some cleaning tips? (somehow I think I'd prefer Gina's)

Cláudia said...

SM, lololol
I rarely swear, but when I swear, I really swear. So, Gina, I don't care if you're on the f****ing fence. We need your sense of humour here!

Rori Hegarty said...

Libra i jest you not....http://www.hellomagazine.com/

Gina said...

Swedish I am doing you no good at all teaching you cockney slang and now you swear to. oh my oh my- I just wish they would get on and resolve all this so we do not need to sit on fences, by bum has splinters

LittleGreyCell said...

Gina,

Just been reading back - you can't go; where else are Opus and I going to learn how not to speak Spanish?

:) :>

Rori Hegarty said...

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2008/04/29/madeleine-mccann-s-grandparents-ask-why-did-they-leave-her-alone-100252-20835627/......hyperlinky please..

librarising said...

Isis -

Oh!
My!
GOD!!

(Shall I stop now?)

ratonthebeam said...

No Gina, don't go - Kates cleaning tips are too boring, she just tells you to dump all your rubbish in the tyre well of the car :-(

Gina said...

Claudia, I often get on my friends nerves with my crackpot ideas of things we should do and such like, but they wind me up to act the fool because they like my humour. Often I am not actually joking, but they think I am. Seriously though, I just cannot comment on this case and the McCanns anymore it is doing my head in. Check it out with Viv, if she has no problem with me arseing about on here they I am happy to keep posting but I do not think it fair to do so otherwise

SwedishMum said...

Gina,

I agree, those splinters really hurt ...

But the cockney slang is lovely and necessary, now I can defend myself properly when someone is rude to me in London. I don't know how I've survived this long.

Rori Hegarty said...

Libra, might be best before you give yourself a condition !! Claudia i assume the portuguese version of hello wont run this exclusive ??

atardi said...

LGC,

Sometimes I wish I could write to you in my own language. Your post at 13.08 made me LOL again.

Rori Hegarty said...

Could anyone who has a problem with Gina arseing around please vote now, thank you........

Cláudia said...

Gina, I can't speak for Viv, But I certainly wouldn't mind. We often get off topic and I don't see a problem with that.

docmac said...

Hello cover

Gina said...

Swedish you will never guess what has just happened. I just got a call from a friend who runs an estate agency saying some staff are sick can I go down in an hour and help out and show some clients around some properties. The Joke is the clients are spanish and if you read back and see the cock-up I make when I speak spanish this is going to be a memorable day. Better go and dress as if I know what I am doing even if I don't

Joe said...

Gina,
I hope you do not mind my offering you a few words of advice. Your contribution is valuable IMO as you put things in perspective from what I have read of your posts. You are a check and balance to posters who sometimes let emotions run ahead of fact. I read that ST blog and she is twisted, bitter and plain nasty.Do not let her bother you, hiding behind her computer like the coward she is. You are better than her. Keep posting. Regards Joe.

atardi said...

Gina,

I think you are McCanned out like ROTB said. I had it also the last days.

But you can't leave right now because I have a question about cleaning tips.

SwedishMum said...

Gina, I'll read back and hope you have a lovely day out there in the real world.
THEN
I hope you'll be back here! xxx

Gina said...

Thanks Joe for your kind words but have to go now whether I like it or not as am about to destroy the reputation of a local estate agency :-)

librarising said...

Isis, Liverpool is a very partisan place, and 'look after your own' is a kind of motto there. It's admirable in a way... but the writer seems blind to the fact that if the police make public their suspicions of people, and those people then go to all kinds of expensive lengths to counter those suspicions, then people are going to be just alittle bit cynical of those efforts. Because they look like efforts to wriggle out of it. And you'd have to be a real die-hard blinkered scouse loyalist to take the side of two police suspects who refuse to take part in a police reconstruction in case they get arrested.

Gina said...

Atardi ask me your question whenever you like and I will try to answer

SwedishMum said...
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LittleGreyCell said...

Actually, never mind Hello, Opus and I have been working on Goodbye! magazine for a while now...

...want a peek at the first edition?

GOODBYE! To Gerry and Kate, as they vacate their comfortable home in the beautiful town of Rothely for an extended stay in sunny Portugal;

GOODBYE! To Clarence Mitchell, who tours the country in a second-hand camper van searching for the true meaning of life after donating all his wordly goods to the Portuguese police;

GOODBYE! To Auntie Phil, who is so heartbroken at the loss of her celebrity status, she seems to be wasting away;

GOODBYE! To those rotting meat nightmares, as we show you how to store your groceries in the wheel arch of your Renault;

PLUS FREE WITH FIRST EDITION: Creche tokens for all your children, 12 hours every day until they're married!

GOODBYE!

Rori Hegarty said...

Libra, it must be the irish element in Liverpool ! i take your point but what interested me was the mention of the internet forums, kate and gerry dont read them but family and friends do... what you make of that ?? Do family and friends lurk or post?

LittleGreyCell said...

Atardi,

Thank you!

Of course you can write to me in your own language - I just won't be able to understand it!

X

SwedishMum said...
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LittleGreyCell said...

Gina,

There is obviously no room on this blog for anything whatsoever that is off topic.

Any self-respecting penguin with a red bow tie knows this. ("Kate and Gerry who? Fancy a herring?")

X

docmac said...

Isis

Try it again. It's pretty simple. Type it carefully as follows:

(a href = copy the full link in here but make sure you enclose it in inverted commas)type here what you want us to see(/a).

Replace all ( and ) brackets with < and >.

SwedishMum said...

Rat please help!!!!

I'm trying to post the html-link (the one you so kindly supplied us with the other day) to Isis but I always manage to get the blue link here. And that does her no good at all, I believe.

LittleGreyCell said...

Docmac!

Is that me? (I seem to be the only one you're not).

Fine bit of satire you posted yesterday - in return, can I do something with a stethoscope today? (There's a long list of people I can think of to practice on...)

X Little Doc Grey Mac Cell

SwedishMum said...

Thanks Doc,

you just solved my problem. I forgot to replace the < and >. Stupid me! (I'm obviously not a doctor, wonder why "they" haven't thought about that I may be "Notdoc")

nancy said...

Isis -

What part of Ireland are you from -I've been to Dublin and I love it! So green!! I'm 25% Irish - my Dad's Mum was Irish (name of Lowrie) but his Dad was English. I remember her well, very clever lady who always wore white gloves when going out. She had red hair and the bluest eyes and was headmistress at our local school in East London. Long gone now of course, but nice memories!

Not much more to comment on today -as Gina says, we've said it all, but I'm sure we'll have plenty to say after watching the ITV programme with the two celebrities tomorrow evening!


Nx

Rori Hegarty said...

Swedish/Doc, thank you both,but i am computer illiterate and copy/pasting is the extent of my prowess, my other talents are endless !!!

LittleGreyCell said...

Swedish Mum,

We're either all not doctors, or we are all doctors.

There's just no pleasing some people...

Gina said...

LGC Just looked at supertrolls and I am really annoyed now, I have given them something to talk about, two posters predictably accusing me of boo hooing again. It is not that that is annoying it is the fact it is increasing their posts. They had nothing to talk about before.

SwedishMum said...

LGC,

:-)

Rori Hegarty said...

Nancy, im a dub (dublin) through and through!! Have family spread all over though, my dads mam was from dorset and was disowned by her family when she married my irish grandad.

SwedishMum said...

Nooooo Gina,

now you've given them more to write about (and they accuse us of never writing about Madeleine, which incidently is quite right at the moment. Hmmmm ...)

Rori Hegarty said...

Gina, just dont bother going there, did you expect anything else? I told you earlier that all it is going to be now is a sniping point as their blog has gone. Really dont bother, go and show that house and come back refreshed.

LittleGreyCell said...

Gina,

There's nothing you can say to make them happy...just remember it's their JOB to lay into us.

You're flavour of the month at the moment (although, Gina, I'm afraid you're still not Creep of the Week - that's still me! Creep of the Fortnight doesn't quite sound right, somehow, does it ST?) because you engage with them.

As I said the other day, you'll never have a rational conversation with them, it's not what they're there for...

Margarida Cruz e Silva said...
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Rori Hegarty said...

Off to get my small boy from school,andd to buy HELLO !!

Gina said...

Isis I have to be serious for a minute and say this. I have never liked anybody referrring to anybody else or other blogs as things like the house of filth or Vile etc. and have been against people referring to others and insane, sick etc. I never really understood why Viv kept on about Supertroll because I had not looked at her blog until recently but now I have looked at it and seen how she twists things but at the same time accuses others of twisting things and spends all her time having a go at someone, I now realise what Viv has been on about. IMO ST needs help and is in no position to give advice to anyone. I will be late for work if I do not go now, but I am taking your advice and not looking there again so they can say what they like I am not interested. They have done nothing to make me see their point of view at all and they certainly do not care about Madeleine otherwise they would be talking about her instead of me

librarising said...

Isis -

"Do family and friends lurk or post?"

I think so. I think Mrs Healy might be Rosiepops. I can't see where else Rosie's blinkered energy might come from other than family loyalty.

But the I think Supertroll is Clarence and I must be docmac because he says so and the papers all believe everything he says... so you'd best ignore me with all the other poor deranged souls.

Anonymous said...

Gina,

Get a cushion to protect your bum from splinters and do not stop posting here, even if it is just to say 'hello' and give us some cleaning tips. They only attack because they do not like what you have to say, dumplings the lot of them, IMHO.

Margarida Cruz e Silva said...

Gina,

don't dare trying to leave us.
We'll hire Mthree to find you! :-)

Stella said...

Well done Jon Gaunt....

If you are reading this, thank you for speaking out.

This morning on Sky news, Jon Gaunt was reviewing the papers with Eeamon Holmes, and the subject of the McCann's came up. Instead of the usual drivvel, Jon actually said he had no sympathy for Kate and Gerry, especially as they left their children on their own every night of that holiday. He went on to speak about them being ambassadors for Amber alert, and just laughed.

I can tell you, the Sky news presenter did not know what to say next, it was hillarious.

Well done Jon. You are the only person on TV who either seems to get away with criticizing the McCann's, or has the tennis balls to actually say what so many people really think.

Somebody out there, please give this guy his own chat show.....

Margarida Cruz e Silva said...

Libra,
agree with you. Rosabosta must be someone close to them.

docmac said...

Hello LGC!

Long time no see! Did you see my post on Austria on this thread yesterday at 14.59? I want to write a book and I need advice.

Do you have any contacts in Hollywood?

Will my advance be more or less than £1,223,629.31?

Should I set up my own online merchandise shop or would it be better to let the moguls handle this?

Would I be allowed to host my own private 'casting couch' interviews?

If anybody wishes to associate themselves with my book or movie for self-aggrandisement or any other reason, what is the formula for calculating compensation due to me?

Would I get to meet the Pope?

atardi said...

Marga,

About Madeleine's age.
I noticed that when they speak about her they mention the age of 4. This happens all the time. Why? She was 3 when she disappeared.

SwedishMum said...
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docmac said...

Oh, I see you did! I missed it. Maybe you can help with the other stuff anyway.

SM, Isis you're welcome.

librarising said...

"ould I get to meet the Pope?"

If you do, ask him whether he's a Catholic or not; Rosiepops has got me doubting it.

SwedishMum said...

Claudia,

delete my post if it's inappropriate. It just hit me that it might be when I had posted it. Sorry!

SwedishMum said...

Claudia, no need,
I'll do it myself.

Margarida Cruz e Silva said...

Atardi,
it's obvious. Paedos don't abduct babies. It is convenient to believe she was older. IMO.

nancy said...

Gina -

As a near neighbour, I think you should keep up the Spanish side of this blog! If not you will get so bored sitting on that fence drinking sangria all day!

Justicia para Madeleine!!

Don't forget we all need to continue fighting for that little girl and if blogging on here helps at all then we must carry on.

Anyway, we will miss you and your words of wisdom hun!!

hasta luego

Nancy x

docmac said...

Docmac,

I think that Pope was a cardboard cut-out, just like the 3 abductors.

Notdoc

SwedishMum said...

Atardi/Marga,

sorry to butt in but I think they're describing her as 4 since that's her age if she's still alive today. I may be wrong, but I don't believe there's anything more sinister to it.

Margarida Cruz e Silva said...

SM,
have to go to work now. You might be right but they keep saying she is /was 4 and it can also be understood as a strategy.

Read you all later.

bye!

SwedishMum said...

Bye Marga,

Have a nice day!

J J said...

Gina
I don't post very often but I am an avid reader and your comments are always interesting.
I don't always agree with what you say but they are a good read.
I like to see you agreeing wholeheartedly with someone one day and having a pop at them the next.
(In the nicest possible way).
Please carry on keeping everyone on their toes. Me included.
You will be sadly missed if you disappear.
We all get fed up with this never ending saga but please keep the faith, for Madeleine.

Unknown said...

Hi All

Gina shame on you for thinking you need my permission to "arse about" sometimes. Have I been the one who is always completely serious?

I bloody hope not!

Having said that the source of much hilarity has removed itself and that of course leaves us all quite desolate, now dont you go doing the same!

Please do as we all do and treat Supertroll's blog with the contempt it deserves. You are never going to get a sensible conversation there are you?

SwedishMum said...

Hi Viv,

Nice to see you, if only for a short while, I'm off now to prepare dinner so

Bye Viv and all!

atardi said...

Swedishmum,

I was refering to what Kate's mother said in the article.

But you are right. If she is alive she is 4 now.

Unknown said...

Hey Notdoc I love your new avatar and am pleased you are developing insight and self-awareness.

I would like to associate myself with your proposed book and movie and intend to do so, for my own self ahh ahhh ahh I cannot even spell it, but you just try getting any compensation out of me:-)

I think the on-line shop idea to get yourself loads of extra cash is suitably tacky, but doing all those couch thingies might out you prematurely and catch you in your portering outfit. Suggest you demand a huge advance so you can get yourself a suitable doctor kit and snazzier gear, the right car, instead of your old banger etc. remember, image is everything:-)

Best tips I can think of from a fellow egotist and wannabe:-)

Unknown said...

Hi Swedish and Atardi and good to see you both again.

Can someone send me another link to the Royal article for the McCanns in Hello.

Notdoc sent me a great pic of Princess Kate, joyously shaking hands with the massing crowds of worshippers for the Pope, whoops I mean her and Gerry God and I do feel a new thread coming on..

atardi said...

Hi Viv,

Nice to see you too.

Can you or anyone else please explain to me what Kate means by saying::"The chances of her being alive are as good now, if not better"

Will we have another sighting?

...if not better

LittleGreyCell said...

Docmac,

"Do you have any contacts in Hollywood?"

Yes, of course I have a contact in Hollywood! On the corner of Rodeo Drive and Wilshire there's a guy who sells the most delicious ices I have ever eaten. Just say "Do you have a large Magnum, buddy?" and see what he gives you.

"Will my advance be more or less than £1,223,629.31?"

Yes.

"Should I set up my own online merchandise shop or would it be better to let the moguls handle this?"

Try Mitchell Merchadising, Retailer to the Arguidos.

"Would I be allowed to host my own private 'casting couch' interviews?"

Only in consultation with Philomena Escorts - International Re-inforced Couches Inc.

"If anybody wishes to associate themselves with my book or movie for self-aggrandisement or any other reason, what is the formula for calculating compensation due to me?"

75% x first £1m, divided by number of months you manage to stay out of jail, [ - the number of journalists who write about you] + number of minutes somebody else is looking after your kids. To the power of 12.

"Would I get to meet the Pope?"

In Hollywood, boychick, it'd have to be the Chief Rabbi.

ADVICE COURTESY OF OPUSODO3 Reg. Office Large Ballroom, Buckingham Palace, SW1

nancy said...

Hello Viv -

It looks as though I have caught you on here! I just wanted to say thanks for putting me right about Docmac!! What made me think he was of the female gender!! Can you tell me if there are any more of those lurking on here - men I mean! I know Joe's is a red blooded male, but I'm not certain about everyone - but I know will put me wise!

I'm sure once you see the McCanns posing for their latest photo in the Hello - 'Hola' in Spanish where the magazine originated I might add - you will be able to think up your next super interesting header!

I must go and apologise for Docmac again!!! What a plonker I am!!


Nancy x

atardi said...

Viv,

hello

Unknown said...

Hiya Nancy

Yes you did catch me on here:-)

Apart from Doc, Joe there is also Libra and Bath. If I missed any others out SORRY GUYS

There is no discrimination on here, we even allow blokes to have their say, but of course me and Claudia are the bossesses:-)

nancy said...

Docmac-

So sorry for getting your name wrong in the first place and your gender in the second place! I'm going to have to stay of the Rioja!!

These McConns must be making a fortune out of their magazine, television, radio, soon to be a book, appearances! I'll have to think up some scheme to shock the world into putting me up there in the spotlight and make myself a fortune - any ideas!!!

I had a really naughty thought that maybe, and this is only a maybe, the McConns actually sold Madeleine, bearing in mind what Kate said about the chances of her being alive are good now if not better!

Can you actually believe that a mother and a doctor to boot, actually said those inane words!! It makes you wonder how she managed to get her doctorate in the first place!

Nancy x

nancy said...

Thanks Viv -


I know that Libra is librarising, but is he also Docmac?

Nx

nancy said...

Viv -

Did Bath Theory go to Bath university? I just wondered where the name came from. Or has he got a theory about a bath being involved in Maddie's disappearance?

It's nice to know that the female of the species are in control - you and Claudia make a magic team!

Nx

nancy said...

LGC -

Your last blog is so clever! Why don't you apply for CM's job when he gets the boot! You could take Opus with you - the McConns wouldn't mind I' sure - they can afford his herrings, soused or otherwise!

nancy said...

Atardi -

I don't know quite what Kate meant by her words - but then who does understand what Kate says these days? I think someone could write a book about her badly thought out off the cuff declarations! But, if we are to take her words literally, then she obviously knows something we don't!


Nx

Unknown said...

Hiya Nancy If I remember correctly Bath has the theory, which is a good one, that bathtimes for three children can be a bit of a stressful time for a mum with an errant husband, perhaps getting his third tennis lesson of the day. This is likely to be when Madeleine was harmed. I am sure he will correct me if I got that wrong.

Libra and Doc are in fact two separate male doctors who live on distant continents.. Sometimes, I know, it can be difficult to sus when people are being satirical or factual:-)

Viv x

Joe said...

Nancy and all the other ladies on here,

Us men would not dare disagree with you ladies as we know better at least the older ones amongst us. Women have always been the boss at least us men let the ladies believe that. Diplomacy and wisdom come with age.

LittleGreyCell said...

Nancy,

Is Docmac Docmac???

LittleGreyCell said...

Nancy,

Many thanks for your kind comments! As it happens, I look quite nice in pink...

As for taking Opus with me, well, he's carving out quite a nice career in Spin Peguining, so perhaps he'll be taking me.

(Only trouble is, there are only so many herring donations a person can cope with - for various reasons).

:)

Unknown said...

Hiya Joe

I am delighted that you four men have decided among yourselves it would seem that you will at least allow Claudia and I to think we are in control here:-)

Actually, I like to think that with the new and better format of the blog, we are all in control and would like to remind you guys you dont need to wait for me to put a new post on.

The McCanns are making a great deal of money out this one year anniversary event that Gerry was dreaming of last June.

I am not sure I actually want to go and buy Hello Magazine to see what it says, I think I really do get the gist (Kate is now starting to cry) and would not want to add further to their wealth or indeed any entity that considers it appropriate to pay this couple for an interview.

Unknown said...

but LGC can you tell me please, am I really Viv, or am I just being paranoid?

I really need to know>.

dolores said...

Is anyone really surprised by this news?

Truth and Lies
April 29, 2008

The police denied the information published by Sky News.
The PJ said to be unaware of an attempted abduction of a minor Dutch in the Algarve as publishes Sky News. The case involve a suspect whose description is similar to that given in the disappearance of Madeleine. An official of the Judicial Department of Portimao reported to the Portuguese press that the PJ was unaware of any situation of this kind and there was no ongoing investigation on this matter. According to Sky News, the young Dutch 15 years returned home, to 18.00 on 11 March, after going into a supermarket nearby. It was followed by a man in black jeep, tinted windows that would open the door of his car to prevent the teenager to continue his path. It would have then tried to force the girl to climb on board. The Dutch will be discussed and reportedly managed to escape the clutches of her attacker.The young man described about 40 years, long hair, gold ring fingers. According to Sky News, the description coincides with that of the man that Kate and Gerry McCann believe they have abducted their daughter. For the record, the man was wearing robot prepared in case McCann was identified in his time and absolved of all suspicion in this case.The father of the young Dutch wished to remain anonymous.
Elements disturbing

It is noteworthy that the Netherlands are frequently since the beginning of the disappearance of Madeleine. In fact, Gerry has worked in the Netherlands and many relations.The woman who saw Madeleine in a gas station in Morocco lives or has lived in the....The woman who claims to have seen Madeleine in Belgium is ...Dutch.The girl who reported seeing Madeleine dancing in a restaurant in France is ...Dutch. The girl's article Sky News is ... Dutch. Simple coïncidence ?In all cases, these elements are disturbing. " Some people, convinced of the first hour, "against winds and tides" of the innocence of parents have come to wonder: "If the parents are innocent, why the machine communications Clarence Mitchell seeks, sometimes quite awkward , To doubt the public? "

LittleGreyCell said...

Viv (or Not Viv),

Yes, no, or perhaps not.

I do so hope this helps.

X LGC (or is it?)

Joe said...

Hello Viv,

Yourself and Claudia are doing a great job, I was only joking and I apologize for speaking for the other gentlemen on here.


Its the anniversary they are not a bit embarrassed about exploiting the situation. Enjoy it while they can.

Unknown said...

Ah Dolores the recurring Dutch theme behind all this McScamming.

Marga and I were talking on here yesterday about how Kate and Gerry worked in the Netherlands for 12 months and on their European tour, just had to fit in a visit to some Dutch friends of theirs, to speak them in person as it were, rather than on any intercepted phone or email communication. Of course Gerry had to keep popping back to UK, and on one occasion sadly lost his wallet, some may even dare to suggest he was again Gerrymandering. That would be wicked, cruel and harsh x

LittleGreyCell said...

Dolores,

The father of the (Dutch) girl said this morning that the description she gave did NOT match that of Barry Gibb.

But this latest man does appear to have fingers, I read, so perhaps it could indeed be the same person.

Unless, of course, this report is an example of double-Dutch...

Unknown said...

Ah thanks for trying so hard to help me LGC. I think I am just going to have to try to accept that all of us on this blog are now what we seem and may indeed be in at least two minds, and I do stress AT LEAST..I can see a lot of plain water, it has not been a clear day and I think it best I do indeed take a good rest.

Felicitations x

LittleGreyCell said...

Viv,

I posted a longish post on here the other day taken from the 3As explaining where a possible Dutch connection might emanate from...all to do with a legal firm which is apparently involved with all the media manipulation and opinion-shaping...

LittleGreyCell said...

Viv,

When you said LGC, did you mean me or Docmac??

;)

Unknown said...

LGC I meant you, Docmac, and your twelve other personas, you cannot kid me mate xxxxxxx You are just talking to yourself on this blog, now arnt you and trying to wind me up..

LittleGreyCell said...

Viv,

:)))

Unknown said...

Hiya LGC Just gone back into one of my more lucid moments..going out to eat, that always helps, then I will look at this Dutch connection a bit more, but I am concerned about the old paranoia:-)

See you all later x

Luv Viv (or whatever)

Unknown said...

Actually LGC

Coupled with the article Dolores just posted is there any chance you or someone could start a new thread on this because I do think it is really worth looking at in some depth:-)

Viv

Laters x

dolores said...

LGC'
Were the twins not born in Holland?

Or am I losing it?

XX D

LittleGreyCell said...

Viv,

Aaargggghhhh!!!! It's got an on and an off switch!!

Will have a look...(whoever you are).

Enjoy your time out!

X LGComputerWiz(Not)

dylan said...

Hi all.

For SM: The McCanns should cut the pony and get on the dog to the PJ confess all!! (let me know if you need help with working it out!)

Docmac, I have my pencils ready but haven't perfected my "wibble yet" should I practise a bit before I present myself as deranged to my nearest psychologist? I can also talk to the walls but I can't translate replies yet. Working on that too....

Viv, hair is cut & it is so short! It will take me a while to get used to it & I'm sure I look like a boy now!

Gina, very glad you are not going to leave us. don't let the barstewards get you down. Nobody here dislikes you and, believe me, you fit in so well that if this were my home, you would be my trusty, comfy sofa! God, sounds like I am saying you are a piece of furniture. Good job I am not an aspiring poet!

Hope, if you are back tonight, I sent you mail. Hope you are feeling better. :)

Dyl xx

dylan said...

Docmac,

Just seen your avatar. I hope it will appeal to my subconcious & I will wake up a non-smoker in the morning - lol! x

librarising said...

Hello Nancy. I am male, not docmac, not notdoc, and in fact (NB Viv) not a doctor either. By that I mean to say that I'm neither docmac nor a doctor, and certainly not to say that docmac isn't a doctor and neither am I. Docmac is in fact a doctor; I am not.

Clear now?

My mum was always known as Nancy as it happens.

ratonthebeam said...

Sorry Viv, the fairy story has already been done....

see you all later xx

librarising said...

Bye everyone. Off to seek help.

LittleGreyCell said...

Somewhat amazingly, new thread now up - publish and be Edamned!

Got to go for a while...see you later.

:)

nancy said...

Viv, LGC and Docmac -

Now you really are doing my head in! Who is the 4th male?

It's certainly not me! My spouse will vouch for that. I keep my moustache well and truly shaved these days!

' Confused of Alicante '

nancy said...

Librarising -

Then you must be my long lost son!!! I left you indoors just for a few short hours while I popped in to the King's Head in Magaluf (where I met my other half) and when got home you had been abducted by a predator - never could find you, but in those days there wasn't the media presence unfortunately and it was a well known fact that all the Brits used to leave their kids indoors sleeping!

At least now I know who the 4th man is!!! That's if you are for real of course!

If you put your photo on the avatar I can see if you really are my long lost son!!

Nancy


PS My mum's name was Nancy too -

Nancy, Blanche, Violet, to be precise - what a handle eh!!

nancy said...

LGC -

Cooking dinner now but will look at your thread later - I know it will be a knock-out!!

See you later

Nx

ta ra said...

Tsk. The point of no one 'finding them' is that they foolishly believe libel lawyers will not find what they wrote.

Tsk. Madame R, and her girl gang of amateurs. Same goes for you, Pink One.

dolores said...

BBC News 2/8/08




The parents of missing Madeleine McCann have appealed to anyone who gave information to Portuguese police about her disappearance to contact them.

In one of several appearances to mark a year since the search began, Kate and Gerry McCann said they had a right to know what details were out there.

"We are a year down the line and seemingly no closer to finding Madeleine," said Mr McCann, 39.

The Leicestershire couple have set up a dedicated phone line - 0845 838 4699.

They urged people with any potential leads to call the number.

'Bits of the jigsaw'

"This is the last chance to capture a lot of information which has maybe gone into the investigation and we are not privy to," Mr McCann said.

"Clearly we need to know that everything has been done. What we are asking people to do is if you have given information to police, Crimestoppers, the Portuguese police, we are asking you to give it to us as well."

Surely we can find her if everyone pulls together

Gerry McCann

He said they have "little bits of the jigsaw" but there were still "huge gaps".

Madeleine disappeared shortly before her fourth birthday from a holiday resort in Praia da Luz, Portugal, on 3 May last year.

Her parents had been eating with friends at a nearby tapas restaurant and were later named as suspects by Portuguese police.

They have always denied any wrongdoing and have campaigned hard for people to help in their search for Madeleine.

But because of Portuguese secrecy laws, the police have not shared the information they have collected with the couple.

CAMPAIGN HOTLINE
From UK: 0845 8384699
From outside UK: 00 44 845 8384699

The phone line will be formally launched on Friday with pre-recorded interviews from a London hotel.

Mr McCann told reporters: "Today is about Madeleine and today is about us stating our absolute categoric belief that there's no evidence Madeleine has been seriously harmed. Surely we can find her if everyone pulls together."

Mrs McCann, 40, explained why she felt Madeleine was still alive.

"It's a sense. Madeleine just feels very close," she said.

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