Hi All, I see we do have official news reports confirming Tanner and O'Brien were subjected to 10 hour grilling. Obviously not the usual case of the police simply getting their evidence, more a case of them being cross examined upon it.
Whilst I can understand the legal reasons why Karen has been promptly charged with her own child neglect and remanded in custody and Kate has not (because there is a lot more than that still being investigated) , it is clear from reading comments on the web, see the comments below the article also, and my own blog there is growing public resentment at the apparent disparity in treatment of these two women from very different social backgrounds.
There is no doubt Kate and Gerry McCann have had an awful of help in seeking to defend themselves, not available to Karen, but I would just say this, has this actually convinced the public they are innocent and perhaps, more importantly, has it convinced the Police of their innocence? Clearly not, their legal status as arguidos remain and reports emanating from Portugal clearly indicate the only way they will ever get rid of this status is after they have been tried in a court of law.
There is no doubt the McCanns will be charged and this case would not be brought if it was considered that it was likely the McCanns are going to secure an acquittal. Having said that, Portuguese and British authorities have clearly never been under any illusions as to just how much backing the McCanns have and how hard they intend to face the case against them. As Gerry himself said, "we will fight this every step of the way". That is what they are currently doing in Brussels, it is all part of his campaign.
Euro MPs would have to look at the McCanns proposals in an unbiased way, but he figures if they get approved, that will signify approval of him and Kate. Just like he figured extracting the libel settlement from the Daily Express would do. To quote him again, (he does make quite a few Freudian slips or arrogant clues) "we are conducting an aggressive and high risk strategy". It is a very high risk strategy to have taken money from the Daily Express because as he will well know, that is fraud, but he likes to play poker, the potential gains outweigh the risks.
Whether the Daily Express actually settled the claim because they could not prove the truth of their articles i.e. they killed Madeleine etc without access to the police evidence (which of course they could not have), or whether they did it in a contemptuous way, knowing the money they will eventually make, I am not certain. I certainly think the latter.
Maybe also another thing we have learned is the Daily Express also printed what appeared to be scurrilous accusations against Karen, when we did not know anything of the police case against her, but in fact they did turn out to be true.
I have been criticised (albeit by people who even criticise my parrot!) for refusing to suggest Karen was guilty based on these reports. I resent that criticism. It is not open to anyone in my view to simply accuse anyone of a serious criminal offence prior to any official details of them being either "prime police suspects" or having actually been charged.
I always suspected the McCanns but I never once wrote anything at all on the internet to that effect until October 2007 on the Daily Express, AFTER they were made police suspects and details of why, the forensic evidence, were made public.
That is a matter of behaving responsibly and lawfully and not libelling people, you simply cannot just go around pointing the finger at people when the police are not.
How many wicked people accused Mr and Mrs Cortez and were proved to be wrong? This is why I know I am right in saying, every time, until the POLICE let us know they did something, do not accuse people. It is wrong and it is unlawful.
Karen was entitled to the benefit of the doubt, before we knew, just the same as Kate and Gerry were. We may not like their campaign but they are in it to defend themselves. This blog will continue to oppose their campaign, flag up the insidious and disingenuous nature of it, and support justice for little Madeleine McCann. Once the McCanns are charged however, far greater restraint will have to be shown and it will be. I would ask for the same in Karen's case given she is charged and in custody and is entitled to a fair trial. She is already being punished, leave her alone and remember what she did, although extremely serious, pales into almost insignificance by comparison to what Kate and Gerry did who may well have motivated and inspired a family of clearly far lower intellect and means by their wicked behaviour.
Viv x
Police continue to quiz McCann friends
Portuguese detectives are still attending police interviews with friends of Kate and Gerry McCann.
The so-called Tapas Seven are the group who ate with the McCanns on the night their four-year-old daughter Madeleine went missing.
Police said that witnesses and Portuguese detectives had arrived at Leicestershire Constabulary's force headquarters in Enderby to be re-interviewed about the dissaperience of Madeliene from an apartment in the Portuguese holiday resort of Praia da Luz on May 3 last year.
It is thought 34-year-old Fiona and 41-year-old David Payne from Leicester are the latest witnesses to be questioned.
The interviews are being conducted by British officers as a three-man team of Portuguese detectives, led by Paulo Rebelo, sit in.
On Tuesday, Jane Tanner, 37, and her partner, 36-year-old Russell O'Brien, were quizzed for about ten hours.
But sources said they were allowed a number of breaks and that the interviews had given them the chance to put their point of view across "strongly".
Meanwhile, Mr and Mrs McCann are preparing to travel to Brussels where they plan to lobby MEPs for the introduction of a child alert system that is used in the US in cases where children are victims of a suspected abduction.
The couple will give a presentation on the importance of greater co-ordination between European countries when a child is abducted.
Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns' spokesman, said: "For Kate and Gerry this is an important opportunity to ensure better co-ordination in Europe when a child goes missing to make sure that no other family goes through the anguish that they are continuing to endure."
The McCanns want to launch a dedicated information hotline that will be available across Europe for when police suspect a child has been taken.
Mrs McCann, 40, and 39-year-old Mr McCann, and their team, have already reserved the number - 116 000 - but it has yet to go live.
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Apr 9, 20:17
Dawn from Liverpool says:
As a working class, married mum of two, if i left my children alone on holiday, I would be in prison, and my kids in care. How is this right? Is it because i'm not classed as a professional.The person i feel sorry for is little Maddie.
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Apr 9, 19:46
onlooker from From Above says:
Never mind if this happened in Britian, it is also illegal to leave children unattened under a certain age in Portugal why has this not been pursued? We all know the reason!!
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Apr 9, 19:36
Raquel from Peterborough says:
Were the parents of Maddie responsible enough to leave their children unattended ?I think so and I sincerely hope that Maddie is still alive and well but I personally condenm the parents who were inresponsable and totally disregard the children wellbeing and their safety .You are a good parent if you spend time with your children , why be a parent when you don't want to be one and be responsible for it ?Soon you are a parent you lose some things like , spending time with your friends dinner out ,disco or even bingo , you can't leave your children alone .I don't feel sympathy for them .
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Apr 9, 18:23
bintbabe from merseyside says:
disgusting that they can still get press attention even though they put their bellies before their childrenother children get taken into care under these circumstances but obviously not if they are from middle class parents
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Apr 9, 18:22
Peter from Leicester says:
I note that Kate & Jerry are preparing to cut and run yet again!. What is the saying? When the going gets tough the tough get going. No such luxury for Karen Mathews, wrong side of the tracks I suppose.
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I'm a bit more confident now, but I'll tell you how it all came about. As a youngster I flew frequently and had no fears at all. Then at 16 I was on a plane (DC10) that lost an engine while gathering speed for takeoff from Nice to Johannesburg. At 20 I was on a 747 that burst tyres on landing at Reunion on the way to Mauritius. I wanted to swim the last couple of hundred miles! Lastly, I was on a Red Cross mercy flight in 1991 to fetch a premature newborn in distress about an hour out of Cape Town. There was no airfield available and we were to land in the veldt, aided by the headlights of police vehicles. These had lined up in the wrong spot and the pilot had to take evasive action to avoid hitting a small mountain dead ahead. The sound of the stall alarm still haunts me, as does the ashen look that the co-pilot had on his face. Bloody cops radioed to us that the N1 (main highway to Johannesburg) had been closed to allow us to land there, but the Red Cross was not covered by insurance to land on a public road. Halfway back to Cape Town we heard the baby had died.
I have flown on quite a few occasions since, both long and short haul, but always with a marked degree of trepidation.
Ultraviolet.
In England we say: 'You catch more with honey than vinegar.'
The McCanns talk of smears by the PJ. In the UK, they have had honey smeared all over them. Justice and truth take time.
'You catch more with honey than vinegar.'
Viv, do not write Tee hee. I picked that up from all of you native speakers (had never heard it before, honestly) and than 2345 told me today that I was not Portuguese because I used it! :-)
Why is it some people do not understand the purpose of the reconstruction?
I even read Mandz state it would have to be performed by actors as it would be too traumatic for the "victims" and friends.
The McCanns are backed into a corner with this, as Claudia has explained. They have always said they want to co-operate but when invited to do so, they refuse.
It is not going to be some televised soap opera as Mandz seems to think. That is what Kate and Gerry would like it to be though, no doubt with their own tame television producers.
It is an investigative tool. All the main people are involved and they say exactly where they were along the timeline, where others were and what they were doing. It confronts them with their lies and flags up the clear indiscrepancies, of course they would feel very poorly at the thought of taking part. On the other hand if they were all innocent and telling the truth, they would have no problem at all, would they! After all, they all insist they want to find Madeleine..how can they do that if they refuse to co-operate with the police? Rely on Metodo 3 who claimed they would have her back for Christmas..
Cláudia,
This is what I was talking about!!!Take a look,spin is up again !
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... ddy210.xml
Hello Viv :)
Goodnight Ultraviolet.
No offence taken. Glad we can agree on justice. What you say about the futility of revenge is true, I think, but revenge is the only language some people understand, imo. They live for money, so money is how they will pay for their wrongdoing, I think. That's what I mean by revenge in this case.
Goodnight, Ultra. Rest well. See you next time. Thank you for the patience.
leigh
Viv, I was actually quite surprised to hear and read about this actor stuff. reconstructions here are done with the implicated people (be it arguidos or witnesses) and it serves the purpose to confront versions and discrepancies. And they are obviously not televised. A crime investigation isn't exactly a show. As CM would say, it's probably a cultural thing.
Hiya Claudia
tee hee is a very childish English saying. I actually use it in a satirical way because it is so loved by Mum21 (who looks about 65), Rosie, Tinkerbelle, Jane Gin and Tonic, SassyP etc.
I have to confess it is not part of my normal language. As for 2345 I do think she gets a little carried away with what she reads on 3 As..and needs to calm down a bit and stick to the facts.
Docmac,
I finally understand why you didn't pursue a career as a test pilot.
Well, you have my complete admiration for even contemplating flying after that lot.
(I go to Nice quite a bit. Think I might drive in future).
I once - very reluctantly - flew to Florida on a DC10. As we were taxi-ing to take off, a 10-year old next to me said to his father "These are the ones that keep crashing, aren't they?".
On the return flight we made a very bumpy landing at Heathrow and came to an abrupt halt on the runway. Then we saw the fire engines surround us and there we stayed, us looking at them, them looking at us, without any information for half an hour. Finally, the Captain told us the hydraulic system had gone on landing, and we were eventually towed to the terminal to the theme from the Muppet Show emanating from the sound system. Everyone burst out laughing.
But I'm afraid I'm just plain cowardly. Very earthy in my astrological chart. That's my excuse.
However, I do worry when the cabin crew look terrified. (One of them once said to me on a flight back from Nice as it happens, that they thought the pilot had been a bit enthusiastic with the French brandy. Hmm.
Well, it's still statistically the safest form of travel...
AAAAarrrrrgggghhhh!!!!!!!
Dear Ana,
Re: The Telegraph. They have received a salutary 'smack on the wrist' for that, and soon after ran the 'Madeleine' crying story online as their headline.
Publishing the weasly words of a stupid boy columnist who was in Brussels, and claims child neglect is a minor issue, undermines UK law, and custom. The Telegraph...or the Torygraph as it is called informally...had to be reminded of a few facts, not the fictional, sentimental nonsense spouted by a boy columnist.
That's excatly why I used it. To mock the old ladies from the House of Filth. :-) It's one of the things I've learnt from you native guys (my English has always been a bit more American English than British, especially the accent). :-)
Hi Claudia
They have just become very confused and are thinking of a programme on TV here, Crimewatch where they do use actors to reconstruct a crime to try and jog people's memories and actually FIND witnesses by that process who are given a police number to call (not the main suspects hotline number of course).
This does display their clear lack of intellect in not being able to understand the completely different investigative procedure that is being proposed where the police already have the suspects and witnesses but they do not believe them, or could it be they just do not want to understand, a little of both I suspect!
This time I beat you to it, Viv! :-)
HiViv and Claudia,
Re: reconstruction.
IMO, this is Clarence's attempt to distract attention from the fact that the McCanns lawyers are in some difficulty. Arguido status leaves no choice for the McCanns if the PJ request their return to Portugal, as you know.
McCanns do not want to be seen using their expensive lawyers to evade return to PJ or extradition proceedings/EAW if it comes to that.
Clarence needs to focus public opinion on the erroneous idea that a reconstruction in Portugal is invalid/out of date. Tripe!
Slowly, slowly, catchy monkeys.
I nearly didn't watch UK TV news tonight because I thought the sight of the McCann spam in Brussels would make me physically sick - and that's a first.
Fortunately, even the shallow dimwits in UK TV news are pulling back from their McCann worship. Still not good enough, but it was good enough to keep my dinner down :-)
Leigh, I'm sure justice will be done. I'm just not sure it's the justice we expect. But as I said to a person I admire a lot, justice has many ways.
Leigh,
Hello, how are you?
Well, it is sad that some papers can not or don’t want to report the facts as like they are: facts. Instead they prefer to print all the rubbish that is told them to. They are not really concerned with Madeleine and that is bad!
Claudia,
I agree with you: '...justice has many ways.'
Life is less than ideal, often. Perhaps it is better if justice is done, whatever route it takes.
Ana, it's all about the money...
Leigh, I agree. I don't care about which way, as long as it happens.
Hiya Leigh
I was very interested to read about the conflict of legal advice that is happening with UK lawyers giving typical paranoid advice, blank it all and it will go away and the Portuguese lawyers giving more sensible advice..as arguidos you are compelled to co-operate and if you are seen to be refusing to do so, what signal does that send out to the rest of the world and indeed ultimately the court, that you are guilty. The Portuguese lawyer is of course correct. Since when did trying to bury your head in the sand (no sick pun intended) actually get you out of trouble. This is what the McCanns have been doing throughout and they could have been getting on with their prison sentence by now rather than prolonging the agony.
I was just reading on one of the other forums that perhaps this Madeline crying on the night before she disappeared is a ploy( spin in this case) to give credence to the belief that she was alive on the 2nd May? It is possible that she disappeared on or before the 3rd of May. Even if the story of the crying is true it could have been any night more than likely before the 2nd May 2007.
Ana,
Yes, it's bad, but perhaps we must accept the world the way it is, and pursue truth, even if it rides in a rickety old carriage instead of a limousine! :-)
I expect that Shannon's mum when interviewed was actually pretty co-operative with the police when interviewed and admitted her behaviour. She is remanded in custody, any sentence she receives that time on remand will be deducted from it. So she is already facing what she did and starting to serve her sentence.
Who is the smart one here, her or Kate and Gerry McCann. I think Shannon's mum is she is facing the music and getting on with her punishment before she even gets sentenced, that way she puts it behind her far quicker. What kind of life is Kate actually enjoying by delaying the agony ?
Hello ALL
I am still packing (how many skirts do you need on an activity holiday??? My eldest says 5!!!! I have talked her down to 2 now just got to hide the rest of her stuff)...
Just saw BBC news and the reporter asked Kate how it felt being an arguido and she replied they had not been acused of anything???? Why dont I belive them answeres on a post card please xxx
"Gerry and I spoke for a couple of minutes and agreed to keep a closer watch over the children."
So regardless,they cancelled the baby sitter for the night she disappeared,and left them alone again.
Cláudia,
Money more important than children?!It seems like...Sad world !!
Viv, I'm pmsl! Go check the nutter talking to herself and saying that I work for the PJ! lololol I know I shouldn't be laughing because mental disease is something serious, but I can't avoid it!
Ana, apparently so...
Hiya Viv,
I agree: the argument between the McCanns UK legal advice and their Portuguese lawyer is their problem.
Bottom line: the law is the law. No amount of UK spin and gerrymandering :-) alters the fact that the McCanns are arguidos, obliged to return to Portugal when requested, unless they want to reveal their true agenda: the reason why they pay extradition lawyers hired last year, and invoke the disdain of popular opinion which they have sought to win over ever since Maddie went 'missing' last May.
IMO: they're busted, and so are those who lied in support of them.
Hiya Joe,
If you read all the accurate reports you will find it was not the night before she was crying it was two nights before. Additionally she was seen by nursery staff at 1.30 on 3 May but was not returned in the afternoon. Suggestions she died prior to this (1.30 on 3 May) are just not feasible.
assasin, I dont care if its pros or antis who post. I would welcome someone giving me one reason to doubt the P.Js claims.
I have to say thar Dr. Rogério Alves, their most proeminent Portuguese lawyer (not the one who was with K&G when they were considered arguidos) is a very intelligent and balanced man. Everytime we hear him talk on TV he is always very sensible, calm and balanced. And he knows perfectly well how people react when they see that the parents of a missing little girl don't want to cooperate with the authorities.
Hi Dolores of the pink rose.
Yes: all the 'inconsistencies' and 'contradictions' in statements made by the McCanns and their holiday friends are becoming more obvious to the public, every time they open their mouths or evade legitimate questions.
I hope your points find their way on to public forms elsewhere as well.
Claudia
It is all my fault darling, I did wind her up months ago, I told her yes Alsabella is top lady PJ and you are her underling, only trouble is she actually believes it!
All this started with Rosie - she is very paranoid and I sometimes wonder if one of Supertrolls voices..
A very haunted mind...(!)
Thanks Viv,
I did read somewhere on many of the forums that there is no reliable sightings of her on the 3rd and the creche attendance cannot be categorically verified so I think that its the 2/3 May is still open as to the disappearance, I of course could be wrong.
Well, Viv, I have to confess, it's true! ;-)
Damn, I forgot about the other news regarding Mr Paulo Pereira Cristóvão.
Apart from having sold the rights of his book "The star of Madeleine" to a Portuguese TV station which will produce a TV series, there is also a negotiation under way with a publisher for the book to be sold in the american market. But that is not all. The rights of his book have also been sold and an international co-production will result in a film.
Ooops...
Claudia
Is George going to play Clarence i the film??
The facial expressions of Kate McCann at the Euro parliament. The one in the middle on the right side is very interesting. I would love to hear your interpretations as to what brought about this intriguing exchange of glances, but must sink into a deep slumber. Look soon, as the photos are updated regularly during the day. The site is an excellent source for all photos of these two.
http://www.daylife.com/search/photos/all/1?q=mccann
Good news, Claudia maybe this is the better way to alert the world concerning neglect at least...
Ta ra, Darlings.
But may I suggest that a post by lc002f5834 made on here at 14.52 today is worth a closer look.
The subject of that post - a Polish businessman who distributed leaflets defending Madeleine in Brussels before the McCanns staged appearance - was the trigger for the boy columnist's misguided waffle in The Telegraph online today, and what followed.
Personally, I hope people print off that post, and circulate it among anyone they know and their MPs, MEPs, newspapers etc., as a useful synopsis of what is wrong with this gerrymandering in the case of one 'missing' English girl.
Just a thought. 'The pen is mightier than the sword.'
xo
leigh
Hey Choccy!
Just leaving, and saw your name. I think Clarence Mitchell would make a very poor firefighter because he couldn't spot an arsonist if his life depended on it, much less the life of a defenceless child, imo. He'll just pour oil on any old flame.
Leigh,
I’ve read that post and thought: how wonderful man he is, this a perfect example of what people over the world must do when they think that something is not right and this was not right at all ...
ICTOAN
Actually, I think that CM is going to be portrayed by a brick wall.
Ana, there are a lot of people who are willing to risk a lot so the world knows the truth. And people have no idea what follows...
Bye, Leigh! Boa noite!
Can anyone shed a little more light on this, is Kate now actually admitting she knew her children were crying when left alone, but went and done it again! I am sure that would be used against her!! Evidence someone tried to get in or evidence she leaves her kids alone to cry!
ROSIE ON THE DARK SIDE SAYS:
Just watched BBC 10 pm news re McCanns. Apparently Kate told the police about Madeleine's comment about her and her little brother's crying as evidence that someone had tried to get into the apartment the night before and that 'now this had been turned against them'.
Ana,
Then do please copy it, and send to your Member of the European Parliament. Maybe send to your local politicians too? Maybe point it out to Marga on this forum when you see her next? She's very motivated to alert us all to action, not just words.
x
leigh
Oh Viv, when they believe it, what else can I say? lolol
Claudia, chica.
With risk comes reward; the reward of doing the right thing for the right reasons, gratis.
Boa noite Portugal, our oldest ally. May it ever be so.
Hi Vov / Leigh,
I see Pinky is at the demand again,
will nothing shut this buffoon up?
It is very curious that this is being released now, having been sitting in the police files for 11 months. The timing of this is frankly suspicious."
Mr Mitchell demanded an internal police inquiry in Portugal into how the leak occurred: "We would be very interested to know what the Portuguese justice minister would say about how this has emerged from the police files on the day that it has, in the way that it has.
"Kate and Gerry have been nothing but honest and open and they have been the victims of leaks and smears."
So sue them Pinky........
Night night Viv.
Re: the dark side.
Criminals always assume the position of victims, don't they? Precedent tells us this is so.
I despise liars and their collaborators. Give them enough rope, and...
xo
leigh
Ok will this work?
Leigh, soon you will see what people risk in order to do the right thing. When it happens, you will remember what I told you, I hope. :-)
Boa noite!
xxxx
It has taken me about two hours how to realise how to get back on here once I had registered. My email....doh!
Anyway I just wanted to say thanks Claudia and Doc for your warm welcome. Now lets see if this one gets there!
Lmcg x
Dolores.
Quite so. The Pink One should file the writ or 'feck off'.
Personally, I think it's not his call, and he knows it. The McCanns will appear in a libel court, imo.
It's only a matter of time. Libel court is a nasty place for nasty people, but it is useful in unmasking manipulators. A rough old game. A game the McCanns chose to play. As Gerry said: they are pursuing an 'aggressive, high risk strategy'.
Tsk. Such amateurs.
Well, can’t wait for that, we Portuguese were and are great fighters and you defends ours believes without Blinking the eyes!
LMCG
Hi, you made it ,your patience paid off...:)
XX D
LMCG
How lovely to see you back and so sorry I locked you out!
Welcome home:-)
Luv viv x
Lmcg, it did! You're back! :-)
Ana, I think it will be worth the wait. As someone who knows told me recently, é preciso saber esperar, which translates as you have to know how to wait. :-)
Dear Claudia,
I always remember what you tell me. No surrender. This takes as long as it takes, by whatever means necessary.
But this: no honest soul should be sacrificed for the sake of insignificant child neglectors. Take care.
xo, chica
Hiya Leigh
Criminals always assume the role of victims, yes re the commemnts on the reconstruction and Kate leaving her children to cry they always have an alternative view point, a criminal one!
I would like to see Clarence Mithcell hanged up ooops I mean banged up for perverting the course of justice too.. after all he has a pretty good idea where Madeleine is..
Cláudia,
Have you been talking with Cristovao lately? LOLOL
Leigh, in this case a lot of innocent people have already been sacrificed as a diversion tactic. But there are others who will sacrifice themselves in order for the world to know.
xxxx
Hi all yes it has been very fustrating to get back on here but I am back at last am looking forward to contributing more... lots more happening and it's getting interesting ;0)
Lmcg x
Ana, who knows? :-)
Now, I stupidly ticked the box to get all comments sent to my email. How do I get rid of this? Arrghh!!! I get one thing sorted and then mess another one up!
Lmcg x
Leigh
Have you seen the video of K, speaking about what the European Commission said on abduction?
It is in The Telegraph
www.telegraph.co.uk
Ignore that have just worked it out for myself :0)
Cláudia,
I hope you are, he is a great man ...LOLOLOL
Oh, and Cláudia with Paolo to?
Claudia,
My final words for tonight: remember Father Pacheco. Take care now.
The world is old and weary. 'Discretion is the better part of valour.'
Let time and perseverance do its job, chica. Careful now. Have faith.
Goodnight, brave heart. Remember your brave mind also, and advise others to do the same.
xo from your nagging Grandmother leigh :-)
Ana, you mean Paulo Reis?
As for the other part of your post, ;-)
Grandmother, Leigh? Jesus! My grandmother (on my father's side) was born on the 1st of January of 1900. Is that a great date or what?
Sleep tight!
xxxx
Clàudia,
Yes , that Paolo and not the Rabelo one, :)
Claudia,
Ya cheeky minx :-)
Dolores: The Telegraph got its 'smack on the wrist' today for publishing the boy columnist's minimising the child neglect issue. They'll tread more carefully in future, imo.
Night all. Am old and weary !!!, but not dead yet :-)
xo
leigh
It's been a while now since one of the british papers has published an article critising the McCanns. Do you think that at last, following the latest interviews, the wheels are finally turning? Most papers are now covering the story of the crying Madeleine the night before she disappeared. Unbelievable that it has taken so long for them to report what most of is alreay knew. Poor little girl :(
Lmcg x
Nite Leigh :)
Beijinhos
Night, Leigh!
Well, Ana, Paulo Reis is a nice man. And he does provide his e-mail address. :-)
Everybody, the Mccann adorers on the House of Filth are climbing walls, as pissed off as it gets. That has to be a good sign. You always know things are going well when that happens. It's better if they read about the other news regarding Mr Paulo Pereira Cristóvão another day. :-)
LMCG,
Is it not amusing,that Pinky said on the news tonight,that the leak today was a blatent smear intending to undermine K & G's work in Brussels today.
Considering the way they have undermined an investigation,they have a blatent cheek !!
xx D
Oh yes Dolores, Pinkies responses to all this are very amusing. They are digging at holes are they not? It is all so ridiculous, were it not such a serious subject it would be farcical ( I can't spell that!) wouldn't it?
Anyway going to bed now. Glad to be back on touch with you all here. Til tommorrow.... Goodnight.
Lmcg c
Sleep well, Lmcg.
Thanks Claudia. I will, you sleep well too. Til tommorrow x
Cláudia,
Well, the House of Filth is saying that now PJ have to pay for the leak, I don’t believe that the leak was provide by Pj but if that is the case , then they should be happy , they always said they wanted to see the files open for all to see.
Now they don’t like it ?
Have to go now.
Boa noite a todos :)
Beijinhos
Ana xxxx
Ana, just wait for August when files will be public! lolol I hope there won't be any suicides!
I'll be off too soon, Ana. Just have an essay to correct and then sleep! :-)
Dorme bem.
Beijinhos.
If the McCanns are going to go around painting themselves as saints then it was only a matter of time as to when some of the case file would be leaked. What do they expect if the leak is true a clap on the back? Only weeks ago they were demanding that the file be made public. Are they really prepared for that? Do not throw stones in a glasshouse.
Well, Joe, if they wanted the file made public, maybe someone's humouring them. Bit, by bit, by bit! :-)
Yes Claudia, but I am not sure the significance of the leak if its true or whether its just to distract. I do not think the PJ would do it, to serve what purpose but give the Mccann team more reason to say the PJ have no integrity?
Claudia,
The other side say PJ should pay for the leak,would that be a Portuguese or UK plumber they were thinking of? :)Are they for real !!
They give human beings a bad name.
xxD
Hey Mark and all those pros who hung on your every word about DNA and said I did not know anything about DNA:
The review ordered by the government following the Omagh case has found the use of low template DNA testing, including LCN analysis, to be fundamentally sound.
Hahahahaha! Digest that one, Rosieflops. You can play with the big children when you grow up, promise.
Dolores, lolololol
You made me laugh after finishing correcting a very boring esay! :-)
Joe, i also don't know if it is true. But I like the fact that it pissed them all off. :-)
Doc, lolol. You're a blast! :-)
Good night, all.
Sleep well.
xxxx
Claudia,
Sleep well xx D :)
If anyne's still awake (just logged in now, forgive me if this has already been pointed out), but v clever headine in today's (friday's) Sun.
The headline "Amber Alert" cut over a picture of Kate and Gerry.
Red alert more like!
The tabloids are getting their revenge. The Brussels trip was a bridge too far. Obviously something has happened that teh papers feel ready to let loose on the McCanns
Mr Mitchell described Madeleine's words as a "short aside".
He said: "Madeleine came out and said, 'Why didn't you come to me and Sean [Madeleine's younger brother] when we were crying last night?'
"Now, Kate and Gerry were puzzled by that because they'd been checking her every half an hour and they had seen no evidence and heard no evidence that she was crying.
"Nor was she disturbed when she was checked each time.
"Equally, one of the friends, Rachael Oldfield, was in the apartment next door in a bedroom adjacent to the wall where Madeleine was in her bedroom and she heard no crying at all all night."
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Just before I go, this new low. What are they implying? That Madeleine was lying? These people make me sick.
Oh, and they call it a smear. Doens't have to be a lie to be considered a smear? Because CM confirmed it...
Here's the link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7341793.stm
The loony pros are still in denial...they are not having it!! says its lies cos the Muccas dont call her maddie...you gotta laugh, they will never accept they are wrong!!
There is none so blind as he who willnot see.
Even if you havent the guts to post on my blog I will be updating it several times a day so at least have a read please.
Hiya Claudia
Needless to say that is tomorrow's article which I am working on
"Mummy we were crying where were you?"
Admitted to be true! They are finished!
Viv x
viv do you really think so? I hyope you are right, Initially I prayed for Madeleine's return but for a long time I have prayed for justice for her....perhaps there is a god after all!!
Claudia,
Rachael Oldfield in apartment next to theirs? I thought the O'Briens were in that one.
XX D
Nice one Doc, barky Marky never could play with the big boys:-) Is he going to crawl out from under his stone, I dont think so!
Luv Viv x
docmac said...
Hey Mark and all those pros who hung on your every word about DNA and said I did not know anything about DNA:
The review ordered by the government following the Omagh case has found the use of low template DNA testing, including LCN analysis, to be fundamentally sound.
Hahahahaha! Digest that one, Rosieflops. You can play with the big children when you grow up, promise.
Friday, 11 April 2008 01:05:00 o'clock BST
Speakyourmind
Oh yes they most certainly are finished, I always promised my posters they were going to get prosecuted and the PJ were far too clever for them.
One big game of chess with the McCanns and their mates from the very outset. Now they move in for the kill - check mate!
Dolores, I have no idea about that. The sad part is CM confirming it. I have to confess that this has brought tears to my eyes. Whatever happens legally, I hope those two will be forever haunted by a little voice inside their heads asking the same question Madeleine asked them.
Well, guess Mrs Fenn was right after all, uh? These pros are really thick and blind. I would never dream that it was Madeleine who would confirm what Mrs Fenn knew all along.
Viv,
They were so sure they were going to get away with their behaviour,as no retalliation was coming from police on either side,this made them more brazen in their demands and actions.Ican see them squirming and twitching and seething tonight.About time they felt the wrath of the world.
XX D
I always knew Mrs Fenn was telling the truth, just the way the Daily Express reported it...(!)
Dolores and Viv, amen!
Have to go now.
Sleep tight.
xxxx
viv you and Claudia have been my heroes for some time, I am bouyed by your words and feel sure you are right. Perhaps now we can all speak more freely about what we think. My glog is devoid of posters but I find it quite liberating to say what I feel about it withoutgetting you and blogs like this in trouble.
Thanks for rounding up info without you I would not have found.
Dx has pulled its fron page...click on front page its changed!! only mention of Kate and gerry leaving kids is in the old front page!! Clarence struck again?
507 comments so far - WOW!!!
Does lightning strike twice:
What is the probability of two really bad events by different perpetrators taking place in the life of little Madeleine on the nights of 2nd and 3rd May last year?
1. Her parents left her alone on numerous occasions while seeking 'into each other pleasure' with their tapas friends and at the same time saddling her with the responsibility of her twin siblings. They must all have, unless drugged, cried themselves to sleep waiting for their neglectful parents to return. Indeed, according to K&G they didn't return in time on the 3rd May!
2. An abductor managed to get into the apartment between allegedly regular checks, enabling him or her to take Madeleine away from her family into an unknown hell without leaving any trace of his or her DNA, or an untidy bed.
This poor mite must have thought the whole world had deserted her and it was probably all her fault, which is something that children who are neglected often think.
I think the probability that more than one party was involved is nil personally.
Speak your Mind -
I honestly think the DX just like to weigh up public opinion and then hastily pull the offending item! I don't bother blogging on there any more - not worth the hassle!
Just heard on Sky News that Gerry and Kate are adamant that the leak has led to a smear campaign against them. I think it's a bit late for that - there's been one since they high tailed it back to the UK in my opinion!
Sky News right now - CM talking as usual - shamless, brazen and backhanded that's what he says about the PJ's!
The parents are demanding a full investigation into the leaks aimed at discrediting them. They are fighting back hard. They are incensed apparently!
This trio and their pals are a disgrace to Britain and their profession.
The McCanns are coming up smelling of roses again according to Sky News - talk about bias!! Unbelievable! Why don't Sky News ask questions like why dont the McCanns just answer the 40 questions outstanding before going on about the PJ's?
Methinks that Rosiepops and her followers will be delighted by this reaction to the Madeleine 'crying all night' story!
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