21 Mar 2008

MALINKA - SECOND FIRE BOMB ATTACK AT HIS PDL FLAT


Charred wreck: Malinka's torched Audi A4 with the word fala (meaning speak) written beside it 22 year old Malinka, friend of Murata
Hi All, I know people are already linking this to the McCanns detectives but this would not seem to be reasonable given this is the second time this happened to Malinka, the first time BEFORE Maddie disappeared.
People who get their car fire bombed, twice, must be into something dodgy imo and the police always round up dodgy characters for questioning when something serious happens. Also he wiped his computer hard drive so there must have been something he did not want the police to see, but I dont think it was anything to do with Maddie. If the police had any reason to think he genuinely had anything to do with the Maddie case however, his harddrive could have been easily read, certainly there are specialist teams of police in UK who can do this and Det Super Prior would have arranged for this to take place...maybe he has! I know the police are reported to still have two computers of Murats - I wonder if actually one of them belongs to Malinka? Maybe he is just a bit of a local villain, not exactly whiter than white. Murat being connected to him, has not helped him one little bit I dont think, neither do I think Murat is "whiter than white".
That is what I think anyway, but would be very keen to learn other people's views! I may even change my mind if you are really persuasive :-)
Viv x

Friend of Murat quizzed over Madeleine wakes to find car torched Last updated at 04:07am on 21.03.08



Sergey Malinka: He was questioned about last year's disappearance of Madeleine McCannA man who was questioned by police investigating Madeleine McCann's disappearance had his car set on fire yesterday and the word "speak" scrawled beside it.
Computer expert Sergey Malinka, 22, an associate of official suspect Robert Murat, woke up to discover the smouldering Audi A4 close to his flat in Praia da Luz, the Algarve resort where Madeleine went missing last May.
Sprayed in red paint on the pavement next to it was "fala" – Portuguese for "speak".
The Russian expat said yesterday: "Who the hell has written that? What exactly do they want me to say?
"They must be talking about Robert. There's nothing to say. I'm angry that someone would do this and I want to find out who it was."




Neighbours described hearing a bang like a "gunshot" at around 5am, apparently as the arsonist struck, although Mr Malinka slept through the commotion.
He was a business associate of Murat and was designing his website when Madeleine vanished shortly before her fourth birthday.

Robert Murat: Called Sergey Malinka on the night Maddie disappeared
He was questioned as a witness after phone records showed that Murat phoned him at 11.40pm on the night she disappeared.
Police also seized computers from his apartment and discovered that he had wiped their hard disks.
He strenuously denies having anything to do with Madeleine's disappearance, and has claimed that he was beaten up by police during the interrogation to try to get him to admit involvement.
On Wednesday evening he parked his car about 40ft from his apartment. He said: "I went to bed and I switched my phone to silent. When I woke up I had 32 missed calls."
He added: "I'm not scared. It's just a car. It was a nice car, but at least I wasn't inside it.
"But I have no feelings about this. They ripped my heart out last summer when they involved me with all this."
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Kate and Gerry McCann: The couple are still hopeful their daughter will be found alive
Portuguese detectives and forensics experts spent the morning searching the remains of the car. Mr Malinka later met police to talk about the arson attack.
It is believed to be the third time a vehicle has mysteriously been set alight close to his house in the middle of the night, one of which was a van belonging to Mr Malinka.
Both the previous apparent arson attacks were before Madeleine's disappearance.

193 comments:

atardi said...

Hi everyone,

The reason why Kate and Gerald Mc Cann won't be in Portugal the 3th of may 2008 is because they just don't want to be there. There is nothing to fear if your daughter is missing.

My friends would advice me to go and stay there. And answer all the questions.



KATE TOLD TO FORGET PORTUGAL
She'll miss Maddy anniversary
By Rod Chaytor And Victoria Ward 21/03/2008

Kate and Gerry McCann have been warned not to go back to Portugal for the anniversary of daughter Madeleine's disappearance.

Lawyers have told the couple that to return on May 3 may be risky in view of the fact they are still official suspects over the missing four-year-old.

There are fears it might provoke demands for them to be quizzed by police again.

Last night a friend of the couple admitted that their continuing "arguido" status had taken away the parents' "freedom of choice".


The friend said: "The lawyers are just being ultra-cautious. But there remains a possibility they may suddenly be called in. The anniversary would then become a circus which is the last thing they want. It is sad because Portugal is where Kate feels closest to Madeleine."

There have been repeated calls in the Portugese media from some police officers for the couple to be charged with child neglect for leaving her alone in their holiday apartment.

It is likely relatives will travel to Praia da Luz for the anniversary instead.

Portugese police plan to re-interview the McCanns holiday friends in Britain during April.

2345 said...

Felicity,

Alsa's blog - no news released in Portugal of 'arson' attack or that Police are investigating it.

2345 said...

Felicity & All,

Alsa's Easter Tribute:

21-Mar-2008
Thank you

Today, on Good Friday, I dedicate this blog to the Police for all their hard work. I dedicate this blog to their families that see so little of them so that we can have a safer world.

When things go right, we hardly recognise this except fleetingly. It is after all, their obligation, we say to ourselves. When things go wrong, we do not let them forget it.

Human, they too make mistakes. But they are out there, putting themselves on the line, risking their lives in search for the truth, a truth we demand. And yet, the majority of us do not have any idea of all they face in this pursuit.

Many times stationed far from their families, which they only see on weekends, and not very well paid, we expect excellence from them, forgetting the price they pay for this. For their dream of being police officers.

To all Police, I give you here my tribute. Thank you for all the nights you are awake working, for all the days and nights that you put our safety ahead of time with your families, for standing firm in what you believe, no matter the consequences - all in the hope of finding out the Truth and maintaining the rest of us safe.

Obrigada

Posted by alsabella at 4:24:00 AM 2 comments
20-Mar-2008

Niki said...

God morgen Atardi!
Hope your daughter got to her destination safe and sound, and that her team will win all their matches!

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I'm getting sick every time I hear about the "anniversary"... I really thought that was a word used for happy events! (?!?). Anyway, just to plan this is sickening, and did Gerry not just state:

Express Newspapers, rightly acknowledge that we are innocent of all allegations that we may have been involved in Madeleine’s abduction and WE would like to reiterate that there is absolutely no evidence that Madeleine is dead or has been seriously harmed.

So, he must be looking forward to the day she is coming back or what??? Rather than to plan a anniversary...

Niki

Niki said...

From Irish Examiner
21 March 2008

Police to quiz ‘Tapas Nine’ in bid to solve Madeleine mystery
By Gerard Couzens

PORTUGUESE police are set to fly to Britain on April 7 as part of a last-gasp attempt to solve the Madeleine McCann mystery.

Algarve investigators pinning their hopes of a breakthrough on fresh interviews with the so-called Tapas Nine, have provisionally agreed the date with British police.

But public prosecutors in Portugal have rejected police requests to call Kate and Gerry McCann in for a second round of questioning, Portuguese daily Jornal de Noticias reported.

The holiday friends who were eating tapas with the McCanns when their daughter disappeared on May 3, will face fresh interrogations.

Portugal’s public prosecution service has also agreed to an application to interview the McCanns’ former spokeswoman Justine McGuinness and a psychologist who comforted Kate, 39, after Madeleine went missing, it claimed.

A source close to the case told the paper: "The Policia Judiciaria had prepared various questions it wanted Kate and Gerry to face but they were crossed off the list of priorities on the advice of public prosecutors.

"They felt it was a waste of time because the McCanns would refuse to answer the questions, a right that Portuguese law grants official suspects."

An unnamed investigator, defending the attempt to have Madeleine’s parents officially interviewed in Britain for the first time, added: "There were no guarantees they would co-operate with the Portuguese police but there are never any guarantees in a criminal investigation.

"It was necessary to test the waters."

Portuguese police indicated recently they were ready to spend more than two months in Britain to try to unravel the Madeleine McCann mystery.

They hope to wrap up the interrogations within a week but are packing their bags in anticipation of a much longer stay.

It had been reported Madeleine’s parents would be the last to face questioning after interviews with the other members of the Tapas Nine.

Portuguese police are thought to be particularly keen to re-interview David Payne, Jane Tanner and her partner Russell O’Brien.

Dr Payne, a 41-year-old cardiovascular researcher from Leicester, was the last person outside the McCann family to see Madeleine at the Ocean Club resort on May 3.

Gerry asked him to check on his wife and children while he was having a tennis lesson at about 6.30pm.

Dr O’Brien, 36, from Exeter, was away from the rest of the group for up to 45 minutes between 9.30pm until 10.15pm while he tended to his own child, who was sick in his apartment.

He told police he had changed her bed linen, but staff at the Ocean Club deny any change of sheets was requested.

Attention has also focused on Jane Tanner’s claim she saw a man carrying a girl from the McCanns’ ground floor apartment at about 9.15pm the night she disappeared — when another witness says he was outside the flat at the same time but did not see her or the mystery man.

The trio have denied previous Portuguese press reports they were intending changing their original police statements.

The McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell says the Tapas Nine are keen to help police understand their original statements.

Kate and Gerry McCann — official police suspects along with expat Robert Murat — deny any involvement in their daughter’s disappearance.

Writing on his blog after Express Newspapers had to pay out £550,000 (€700,000) in damages and apologise for more than 100 "seriously defamatory" articles following court action by the McCanns’ lawyers this week, Gerry said: "It gives us no joy that we had to take such action.

"Nevertheless we hope the events will act as a springboard to advancing the search for Madeleine."

Meanwhile, a car belonging to a key witness in the investigation was burnt out yesterday and the word "speak" sprayed on the pavement next to it.

Russian computer ace Sergey Malinka, 22, was questioned last May by police searching for the missing toddler.

Moscow-born Malinka is an associate of formal suspect Robert Murat, 33, and the pair were said to have spoken by telephone shortly after Madeleine vanished.
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Lets hope 7.April is the date!!

-

All this sad story is getting more bizarre day by day... I have this "Twin Peaks"-feeling, like everything is surrealistic...
Car-bombs! What is next!

(Viv, yesterdays post about Malinkas car was from Lindsey.)
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Have a peacefull Good Friday all..

Niki

2345 said...

atardi,

Bizarre comments from 'lawyers' who know PJ are bound by legal procedures !!!!

As implausible as FBI examining CCTV footage on prime suspects' behalf.

viv said...

Hi Atardi

As usually happens in criminal cases like this one can expect the McCanns lawyers to be in touch with Police and prosecutors in Portugal. I would imagine their lawyers have communicated they will not co-operate in further police interviews and will exercise their right to silence. I feel this must be the case for the Prosecutor to so confidently proclaim there is no point in interviewing them further. Lawyers only offer such advice to suspects to remain silent when there is a lot of damning evidence against them. If the police have little or no evidence and the client is genuinely innocent then the solicitors would advise them to co-operate and thereby assist in the search for Madeleine. I am afraid these announcements can only confirm beyond doubt the McCanns guilt and their refusal to do so.

The friend trying to make light of their decision to not return to Portugal is less than impressive. The legal advice received would be under no circumstances return because you may be placed under arrest and remanded. In short if they go there now they will not be coming back. As you say innocent parents would say well be damned with them, I did not do anything wrong, and I am going back for the anniversary.

2345

I am sure the above pic of Malinka's burnt out car is just a hoax LOL.

It is nice that Alsabella has paid respect to the police and all their hard work - they deserve it. Without them their would be no justice for abused little children and are always eternally grateful for their dedication to fighting the cause of justice for victims and against serious criminals who need to be dealt with. I know that it will have been an extremely difficult task to try and bring the McCanns to justice, no couple could have fought against this any harder than these two miscreants with all their backing from various disreputable sources funded by decent members of the public who were seriously duped and defrauded.

2345 said...

niki,

I agree ... it seems the need to confuse and confound the gullible has no bounds !!

I only ever focus on direct Police source. IF Malinka's car attack is true, it's a matter for the police. No news of it released in Portugal and he was apparently in London at the time.

Truth will out .. it always does from the mouths of the Police.

2345 said...

Felicity,

Alsa's message is a heartfelt, timely reminder of why we continue to support the Police in their quest for TRUTH.

I wish you and your loved ones a very happy Easter; thanks for your hard work and information which is greatly appreciated.

viv said...

Hiya NIki

How weird Gerry says "we have not been involved in her abduction".

Do the police have two alternative charges against them I wonder:

1. Together with Murat / Malinka Madeleine's abduction was arranged

2. The McCanns killed Madeleine and disposed of her body

It is weird the way they always used to stress both options were open and yet somehow, the McCanns are involved..Scenario 1 seems highly implausible but, at present, Murat is still an arguido. I think it is more likely he was an arguido when they were looking at the possibility of abduction but never could find satisfactory evidence other than there is something shady about Murat and Malinka which there certainly is from reading about them, I think. Once they seriously started to look at the McCanns and tbe British Police/dogs uncovered all the forensic evidence Murat went out the picture but to release him would have damaged the investigation.

Is Gerry trying to tell us something! or it just the usual ..it was an abduction, it was an abduction, it was an abduction, on the basis if he tells us enough times we start to believe it! Sometimes there are cryptic messages in his blogging but I think he has learned to be far more careful, less cocky, of late.

I remember the police insisting the McCanns were witnesses, not suspects, so further arguidos would come as no great shock, I guess. In fact we have been told for months that Tanner and OB and possibly Payne/Oldfield were looking at being made arguidos.

2345

It was Murat that was in London at the time, not Malinka - are you seriously suggesting the picture of Malinka's burnt out car and the writing on the pavement is just a hoax!!!

dolores said...

Viv,
I hope you are well :)

Looks like CM was being untruthful then,by saying the Mc's would co-operate with the PJ.
xx D


http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/columnists/article3594176.ece

March 21, 2008

Disgust may express itself in sales figures
Amanda Andrews: City Diary
Members of staff at Express Newspapers have been receiving hate mail after the front-page apology to the McCanns on Wednesday. It appears that some members of staff working for Richard Desmond’s newspapers, guilty or not, are being penalised for the defamatory remarks.
I hear that unsavoury e-mails were sent by members of the public to staff working in departments outside of home news, the department responsible for the offending articles.
The newspapers, which include the Daily Express, the Sunday Express, the Daily Star and the Daily Star Sunday had to apologise for more than 100 articles alleging that the McCanns were responsible for the disappearance of their eldest daughter, engaged in orgies and sold her to child traffickers. If such as backlash gathers strength, could this dent circulation figures further? The Daily Star recorded a 7.08 per cent year-on-year fall last month, while the Daily Express fell 3.28 per cent.

docmac said...

Hi Viv

This Malinka is a very interesting fellow. I have read reports of him being quite wealthy and he's only 22. I have read nothing of him inheriting that kind of money, though it is a possibility of course. Many Russian expats here are well known for being involved in shady activities, especially organised crime syndicates. Just recently one of their number, a crime kingpin, was assassinated just down the road from me when exiting a restaurant with his family. It would not surprise me if Malinka was involved in the underworld and that the torching of his car and the 'message' is related to this. His mate Murat also seems to have more vehicles than one would expect of an estate agent who is down on his luck.

As an aside, it's quite amusing to see how much this case is beginning to revolve so much around cars! Scenics, blue Jeeps, a torched Audi [shame, that :-(], blonde kids getting bundled into various cars, GPS found on cars, a certain 4X4 etc. It would make for a good spy novel, wouldn't it? Only it's a real life tragedy.

A happy and peaceful Easter to you and all other bloggers.

viv said...

Hello Dolores darling

How lovely to hear from you again and I hope you are OK!

I can imagine who the author of some of that hate mail was:

Rosiepops said...
Morning people as a few of you may already know the DX angered me so much yesterday that I decided to let them and a couple of others have it with both barrels. Six months of suppressed anger I think.

Yesterday in the High Court the DX were made to pay the McCann's £550.000 in libel damages and were forced to print an unprecedented front page public apology to them.

Yet last night unbelievably they decided to allow a HYS forum, open to all the usual suspects to hurl and throw libellous abuse at them, I thought this was despicable and have told them so.

To anyone who thinks I have lost my mind, I haven't, I took this opportunity to try and deflect comments away from the McCann's and towards me.
I knew this would lead to my account being suspended, but what the heck, I did it anyway and then wrote to the DX told them exactly what I thought of them and asked them to suspend my account.

Here is a copy of the email I sent the DX;

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I am writing to ask you to remove my account from the Daily Express HYS.

I have never been more disgusted in my life at the way your paper and to be fair other papers too have treated the McCann's, I no longer wish to be a part of this system of abuse.

Not content with being in the High Court yesterday, you felt you had to offer another HYS forum up for these people to be abused and I think this is disgusting.

Also over the past 6 months you know I was personally abused attacked and called the most filthiest of names on your forum and you let those posts stand and yet threatened me with taking my account away if I defended myself.

You gagged me and allowed others to abuse me and I think that is despicable.

I note that you did this to certain other people to, strange that it was always the people that stood up for the McCann's that received this kind of abuse.

Thanks but I do not like being called a prostitute, tart, highway whore, paedophile or all the rest of it on your HYS forum and not be able to defend myself because you threatened to take my account away if I did.

I do not know what your game was on there but it felt like you were using and abusing those decent regular posters on all sides for your own end game and that was disgusting.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I think it is past time that we as decent people accepted this kind of behaviour. I think we were deliberately manipulated and pitted against each other in this HYS arena/forum.

Were we part of their plan to abuse the McCann's?

I do not know but it seems like it, why else did they allow that disgusting HYS forum yesterday?

20 March 2008 09:53

WHAT A STINKER!

Wizard said...

Good Morning all,

The DE's fall in readership, like the Daily Telegraph, is due to having an older readership. As their readership die off they are not being replaced in significant numbers. Younger people given a choice between the Express or the Mail, will choose the Mail. The Mail has an advantage over the Express of an almost bottomless barrel of money to promote itself with the Express has not.

viv said...

Hello to you Doc and again how lovely to hear from you:-)

Very interesting viewpoint about Malinka. I have to confess, having worked a lot in the world of crime, as you know, as soon as I saw that and read this is the second or even third time it happened it makes you realise he is messing with some seriously bad people and getting a little warning. I am sure you are right, the talk is related to some deal and nothing to do with the McCann case.

In the early stages of the investigation 6 PJs swooped on his flat and came out with hard drives and computers, they clearly checked him out pretty thoroughly! Also grilled him all night..maybe they have other officers, not involved in the McCann case, keeping an eye on this wealthy young chap who keeps getting arson attacks!

I also read Murat owns several properties, now I dont know whether that is true but if it is, it hardly sounds like someone seriously down on their luck!

viv said...

Hiya Wizard

Interesting viewpoint about the fall in readership of the Express and the Telegraph.

To be honest I have never much cared for either the Mail or the Express because they both pander far too much to prejudiced people who very much like to state they are middle class, rather than just being pleasant people.

It had certainly not ocurred to me the Mail was considered trendier or it managed to promote itself better. I guess I dont know that much about the newspaper business!

dolores said...

Viv,
I am fine thanks,down to 10 a day now,from 25.I have another ultra sound next week,for my leg.
Have yo seen your doc., yet?

XX D

What a stinker of a letter you are correct,and what a hypocryte he is.
Most of the abuse and taunting and racial abuse,came from him and his chain gang.I am sure the DE only has to look back and see it in their archives.
There is something not quite right with it's thinking,when it sees nothing wrong in the hatred it spewed.There are to many witnesses to refute her lies.

hope4truth said...

Good Morning All

Well this just becomes more strange by the day. Why would the McCanns not return to Portugal if they are inocent and there is no evidence against them then they know without a shadow of doubt they will not be arested.

For goodeness sake after them and the other neglectful parents who went on that tragic holiday and after all of them admitting they were useless parents they could all have been thrown in jail and charged with neglect. The fact this was not done at the time to me proves the PJ had a great deal of sympathy for the McCanns nd were not looking to frame them.

If the PJ had wanted an easy way out they could have looked for Madeleine and as many 1000s of children go missthey wing every year and are not found said they would leave the investigation open and keep looking. No one would have said they failed and were useless many children are never found (sadly)...

If they had wanted to fit someone up well no one was defending Murat they could have easily planted evidence or just let it be known they thik it was him and let the witch hunt continue.

If the McCanns do not return to Portugal then I hope none of their family do either what would be the point? The parents stayed until they fled after being made suspects (and that is what they did fled) I do not know how long I would have stayed if my daughter was missing but as from the begining when we were told she was in Morocco they would have been no nearer to her if they were in England or Portugal.

Non direct non direct quotes follow as I cant remeber word for word (and as this is not an insane site I am not going to have people yelling LINK PLEASE) Gerry was encouraged she may be in the hands of a peadophile ring? Kate waving hands toung clicking she was gone just like that? Gerry find the body prove we killed her? These are some of the bizare things said by two grieveing parents. The list goes on but I give up?

If they are inocent then they have nothing to fear and could wait forever to sue he press after all if they are inocent and the DNA and Phone evidence is false the PJ have nothing.

Not many people out there are as obsesed by this case as we are but the people I speak to all think they were wrong to have left them alone some think all were involved some thinkg some where involved and some think just the parents. Others think Accident, sedation, violence and a few think she may have been taken.

After the appology people were talking again and this time the comments were not at all friendly remarks like how can they worry about what the press think when their daughter is missing, I am glad it is nearly April as a limited company the books should be checked for the fund, arrogant people who left their children alone and they want an appology?

Do they think people dont have a free will to think about what they want to?

If they are inocent let them go and answer all questions they wont know the answer to some and they can say I dont know then they can prove they are inocent once and for all and can move on as best they can without their daughter and retain a glimmer of hope that one day they will get her back.

Sorry have gone on a bit again but the more they silence the papers (especaily when they printed positive things for them as well) the more I dont believe them...

hope4truth said...

Viv

Well that just about sums the stupid thing up dosent like the nasty comments but likes to post as Anon here and on Alsabellas to stir up trouble whoever it is it is a nasty piece of work...

Never mind it is bound to come back with a new ID it will not be able to stay quiet shame really if these nutters had not been so bloody nasty I may have believed there was nothing to hide but they pushed me to belive the worse and did nothing to change my mind (bullies never win)...

x

viv said...

Dolores

Excellant news with the fags darling - FLIPPING WELL DONE! Are you getting your breath back a bit and treating yourself with the cash you saving?

I had to go to hosp this am - ear infection. Sometimes I think I need shooting! My parents did take me for the blood test and I do not know what I was so frightened about because I never even felt her put the needle in, only when she took it out again. She was lovely. Some are just better than others! I have not been back yet for the results but will do after the break next week.

I had to laugh when reading your comments about Psychopops - just like me you never know whether to call it a he or a she - so I reverted to it. I do think it is a he, as stated on its profile so utterly crude!

This person seems to really lack insight and has a very distorted thinking style. It has always staggered me that whilst abusing someone it says it is only defending itself etc, simply does not seem to occur how incredibly abusive it it...seriously hypocritical. I found the constant complaint made about me ..well you really asked for it now Viv with your vile snidy remarks etc. but when people challenged it ..well what did Viv say then.. no answer..all in its imagination, very unbalanced. I dont know whether this is Gerry but people could forgive me for thinking so!

Bianca said...

"All this sad story is getting more bizarre day by day... I have this "Twin Peaks"-feeling, like everything is surrealistic...
Car-bombs! What is next!"

[quoting Niki]

====================================


Hi Niki, couldn't agree more!

Robert Murat; Metodo 3; The Tapas Bar; The luggage in the middle of the road; The strange, conflicting accounts of the night of May 3 ..

Hate to say it .. but it'd make a great mystery novel! One of the Tapas group once stated that the press were turning this case into an "Agatha Christie novel". Perhaps so, but look at what they've got to work with!

Anyway, take care, and justice for Maddy.

viv said...

Dolores

I hope the ultrasound on your leg does not reveal anything too serious and will be thinking of you. Keep trying to do a little walking and keep it moving one way or another. Just pumping your feet up and down whilst sitting is a good one the physio gave me as you lift your foot up you can really feel it stretching the muscle and getting the blood moving.

Take care darling x



Luv Viv x

dolores said...

Viv,
I am so pleased to hear you finally saw to your blood test,I could have told you their was nothing to fear,I have had countless over the last 6 yrs.,

My mama is going to be 90 next Saturday and their is a huge surprise party arranged for her in London,and on Sunday, 28 of us are taking her for tea at the Ritz Hotel.We hope the shock won't be to much for her.

No one would ever blame you for thinking that way of The Mad Hatter'you were not alone in that.

LittleGreyCell said...

WOW! IT'S CATCHING! (Or perhaps genetic)...

Rosiepops INVITES the DE to ban her!

Eagle-eyed posters will notice that this is similar to Kate and Gerry INVITING the PJ to re-interrogate their friends, Sergei Malinka INVITING a thug to torch his car, and Aunt Philomena inviting SlimFast to send her a year's supply of shakes. (Sorry about that last one, must be the medication I'm on).

Well, let me state here and now that I'm INVITING Jeff Bridges to deliver his Easter treat to me in person. Second bedroom on the right, just push the door.

T*ss*rs.

:)

dolores said...

LGC,
I hope you are feeling better now,:)sounds like it. XX D

I reckon it got furious and humiliated at having it's posts removed, plus she got as good as she gave and did'nt like it,hence the 'poor me'petted lip rant.

Bianca said...

"Well, let me state here and now that I'm INVITING Jeff Bridges to deliver his Easter treat to me in person. Second bedroom on the right, just push the door." - LGC


LOL, I like your logic LGC! And I may just extend the same "invitation" to Matt Dillon ;) (hope hubby isn't reading this, LOL!)

Oh and also, congrats to Dolores mum .. 90 years .. well done :-)

docmac said...

Viv
Did you get my Easter Bunny e-mail?

Dolores
From what you posted before, 10 a day is still 11 too many if you get my drift!

hope4truth said...

LGC

Glad to see your illness has not infected your LOL making skills...

How are you feeling???

xxx

viv said...

Morning Hope darling and Bianca too HOW LOVELY some of my top favourites are here today:-)

Well Hope as you say innocent parents would rush back trying to help - they are as guilty as hell and really do not want the PJ to know where Madeleine is. I have always had this overwhelming feeling she is in deep water, most probably the sea, where it would indeed be impossible to find the little darling, God Bless Her. How truly wicked they are to save their own rotten necks in every conceivable way they can think of, even having the cheek to start a libel action.

I agree the PJ tried very hard to think the best of the McCanns but as we know they were under a lot of pressure from our interfering government. They should have just left them to get on with it and kept them in Portugal last September. No matter which way you look at it, this couple have not been treated like ordinary criminals - their status has bought them handling with kid gloves and it has seriously slowed and hampered the investigation of them.

I notice we are not getting those silly comments, that I noticed anyway, from the McCanns and their family now, that PJ are trying to frame them. Kate's mum was very vocal on that one, I recall. Presumably because it would look so silly to say this, given senior British Police involved from the very outset. No one could seriously believe they would assist the PJ in framing these two. How absurd to suggest they just anted to protect the tourist industry. One single child abduction would not have had any serious impact it happens all over the world - as you say, they would have just put it down to that, if that were the case. They would not waste millions on an investigation they just cannot win. Framing is such a barmy suggestion. To convince a court you have to have cogent evidence!

I recall Gerry saying something about these evil predators must have just been watching and waiting for that 8 minutes window of opportunity and the thought of that makes me sick to the core of my stomach (a Rosie phrase!). Kate so matter of fact on Panorama I recoiled in horror, re advertising her eye defect - well we just did what we thought was best, and the infamous WHOOSH and then that horrible mouth clicking - she was gone..I remember thinking her demeanour when describing these supposedly terrible events of her daughter being abducted by paedophiles, it was like she as chatting to her mate in a coffee shop, smirking and smiling.. what can you say, they just repulse. How on earth did they think it was a good idea to do all these programmes, Panorama, Antenna, Christmas Special.. bloody hell!

If you were innocent and someone offered to do a lie detector test you would jump at the chance. Says it all really!

Sorry I have gone on a bit., too!

Will have a look at Bianca's now!

dolores' mama said...
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viv said...

Doc

I got your easter choccy bunnies and wrote back saying what a shame you let rosie bite bits of them off:-)

viv said...

Bianca

If they uncover the international offending in this case I reckon it would be a bit like Lethal Weapon 1, 2 , 3 4 - now way they could fit it all into one film, but seriously producer and film writers will clamour for this one!

Kate Winslett for Kate?

No way I am allowing my George to play Gerry and anyway they would need to find an ugly actor!

dolores said...

Docmac
So nice to hear from you,hope you are well. XX D
I do get your drift,:)I have been on a course of Champix for 3 weeks now.And I am hoping to stop completely in a few days.

hope4truth said...

My name is hope and I am a chocoholic I am sat eating the 4th bag of mini terrys choc orange eggs I bought for my daughter (£1.15 a bag or 2 for £1.80) over the last 3 days I have eaten and replaced them and now have to go and replace them again...

Might buy 4 bags this time and she will get some on Sunday with all the other eggs she has theya re so cheap this year....

Oh as I am confessing I have eaten two bags of Mini Eggs the other daughter has but have put the replacements out of temptations way...

Phew I feel better for confessing will have another one to celebrate x

viv said...

but who is the lethal weapon, Kate, Gerry or both of them?

viv said...

Dolores


Congratulations to your dear old mum! My mom is only a baby at 81!

I think there is hope for us mate:-=)

dolores said...

To the nameless one,
My mama does not own a computer.

Bianca said...

Hi Viv. Your blog is great and you are one of my top faves also *hugs*

Did you read my other post (in the thread about the DE and the DM) about the night I got banned from DE? LisaJ went hysterical, simply because I said (rather stridently) that "all parents have a duty of care to their children". She said I was the sort of person who would defend a pedophile in a court of law, and blame the parents, simply because they, for eg, "let their child go to the park on their own"! (As if letting a child go to a public park ON THEIR OWN is the acceptable norm! How berserk are these people??)

Anyway, she made this horrible accusation about me being "the sort of person who would defend a pedophile" and then had me instantly banned! I couldn't even defend myself!

But what's really weird - all the usual suspects, including Mandz, pounced on the opportunity of my not being able to reply, and couldn't wait to tell LisaJ how much they agreed with her comments to me, yet Rosiepops, of all people, stayed completely out of it! ??

docmac said...

Viv I did not receive your reply, can you resend?

Dolores :-). You'll save your health and loads of cash. Did you know that one can buy a pack of 20 here for as little as 55p? The usual Marlborough, Rothmans, Dunhill types are around GBP 1.20. As you can imagine, there are lots of smokers about at that price!

LGC
Where have you gone?

Hope
Don't tempt Viv, she needs to shed some pounds ;-)

viv said...

Whoaa Hello LGC darling, I hope you are feeling better... I never kept up very well on the DE either did I:

Love your humorous post as ever, what a cracker I am going to say it again (in Honour of Psychopops, oh and Maudlin 7, I keep copies of all posts in my file and let to quote them to them because they are all ROTTEN LIARS THOSE ANTIS, I do not have anything intelligent to say, but you are LIARS LIARS LIARS NOW TAKE THAT OH AND HERE IS MY EMAIL ADDRESS ROSIE CAN YOU CONTACT ME URGENTLY...emailing yourself can make you feel more popular..) What the hell happened to her anyway... did Psycho do a Frankinstein job there???


LittleGreyCell said...
WOW! IT'S CATCHING! (Or perhaps genetic)...

Rosiepops INVITES the DE to ban her!

Eagle-eyed posters will notice that this is similar to Kate and Gerry INVITING the PJ to re-interrogate their friends, Sergei Malinka INVITING a thug to torch his car, and Aunt Philomena inviting SlimFast to send her a year's supply of shakes. (Sorry about that last one, must be the medication I'm on).

Well, let me state here and now that I'm INVITING Jeff Bridges to deliver his Easter treat to me in person. Second bedroom on the right, just push the door.

T*ss*rs.

:)
------------

hmmmmm LGC well that is what they call getting the aggression in first..something Psycho is particularly skilled at, I reckon, nuh nuh cant ban me for a penny cup a tea...cuz I am so outrageous I banned meself so take that you TO88ERS

viv said...

Dolores

I gonna send the nameless one into orbit, how dare it interrupt our happy little blog.

I read them saying that last night - they had just been ripping into us and crying over their dead parents etc for about two hours ummmm happy little chaps..

Bianca said...

"No way I am allowing my George to play Gerry and anyway they would need to find an ugly actor!" - Viv
===================================

Oh God no .. George Clooney couldn't play Gerry! You'd need someone like Larry Linville, who played the sniveling "Frank Burns" on M*A*S*H. Actually quite a suave man by all accounts, but excellent at playing a weasel!

:-)

hope4truth said...

Hello Doc

Viv needs to shed some pounds!!! So do I but have declared an Amnesty on diets until next Tuesday.... All the eggs on Sunday plus going out for Lunch with Husbands family then over to my family for tea I will be the shape of an easter egg by Monday and on Monday will have to finsih them off before the Diet Amnesty ends...

Have a good Easter x

docmac said...

Thanks, Hope. It certainly sounds like you will!

No, Viv!!! (and Dolores). It was only a joke!!! My first deleted post on this blog. Oh dear, sorry!

It did have a serious message, though. You never know who's watching. I think there's about 6 of them right now, fingers hovering and the mouse pointer positioned on the 'Anonymous' radio button.

dolores said...

Oh Docmac,
You naughty boy...:) all is forgiven in that case, oh well, there is always a first time for everything..ie deleted post...lool.
XX D

viv said...

Bianca

****Hugs******* to you as well darling!

Sorry darling no I think I missed your post I will have a look back - I am getting a bit of a slow old codger -

By the way Docmac stop going on about I need to lose weight - you know Psycho does not believe you are in South Africa...you are letting the cat out now and feeding its paranoia(!)

That LisaJ was a weird one..I wondererd if she got cloned by the Pro-cretins becase she got so nasty I remember reading her and think OMG what chewed her tonight..Moby Dick? All parents do have a duty of care towards their children, that is fundamental thing the McCanns forgot..definitely got abducted by them because always liked to forget parents are actually supposed to look after their kids and they also have an unnatural obsession with paedophiles, dont they?

Did you ever wonder if Pscyho and Mandz also came out the same head? That is a bit of a give away really isnt it, because Pscyho does not like to miss a chance to get the knife in does it, maybe it already was?

Defend a paedophile - that definitely sounds like Psychopops to me!

Bianca said...

Far out! I was wondering what that was .. wasn't sure if it was just a "friendly" having some fun, or someone truly nasty??

Now I see it was the latter! (this is regarding the anon post about Dolores's mother).

What a bum!

viv said...

Doc sorry *****hugs******* did I send YOU into orbit?

The PRO-CRETINS are gonna love that:-)

Nah , they just wont bloody believe it!

viv said...

Bianca

If they can find an actor who can snivel to play Gerry that would be good, because occasionally, even he does that, like that time he walked out of Portmao Police Station. Our pain, our suffering, these nasty PJs, oh yea and Madeleine too...

docmac said...

Viv

It was that video of you and George you posted on youtube. I could hardly see the poor bugger. By the 'sound' of it, he did seem to be enloying himself, though. lolololol!

I wonder what the pros will make of it? I do think they are more into the Richard Bucket type. Someone they can ridicule and boss around a lot.

Hello BIANCA, sorry I hardly noticed you! You have been making headlines on the dark side since you arrived here. Well done!

Bianca said...

Hi again Viv,

No probs! Running a blog is a lot of work, so take your time :-)

Yes, LisaJ is definitely odd! One minute she's very easy-going and quite friendly, and the next, you can practically hear her screaming at you through the monitor! Actually, I always thought she leaned more toward the "anti's", which is why I found her comments and her hysteria the other night so oddball!

As for Rosiepops' potential aliases, well, I don't actually think she is "Mandz". You see, even though she stayed out of the argument, she DID actually keep on talking to other posters, so her and Mandz seem to be talking at the same time, rather than taking turns to speak. As for "LisaJ", I would say the same thing, i.e., that her and Rosiepops' posts seem to take place concurrently.

viv said...

It was that video of you and George you posted on youtube. I could hardly see the poor bugger. By the 'sound' of it, he did seem to be enloying himself, though. lolololol!

ROFLMAO - QUITE LITERALLY, and poor George has lost weight, Viv ate all the pies and made him work soooo hard:-)

LittleGreyCell said...

Dolores, Hope and Bianca,

Many thanks for your kind thoughts. Feeling a bit tired and headachy, but think that's mostly down to caffeine restriction. :( No chocolate for me, either. :(( Hey ho, worse things happen at sea, so it's a good job I'm in Surrey, eh?

Dolores: Rosiepops hasn't quite got the hang of this little old freedom of speech thing, has she? The penny hasn't dropped that it's the very same freedom of speech that gives her the right to defend to the last tapas dish the reputations of those prime suspects, Kate and Gerry.

As Voltaire famously said: "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to express yourself on the Daily Express Have Your Say page". Or something.

viv said...

Doc

Maybe Psychopops would prefer a drag queen, in stocking and suspenders?

Bianca said...

Hey there Docmac, nice to see you again :-)

So, I'm making headlines? Good God! What are they??

LOL!

LittleGreyCell said...

Docmac,

Sorry, just noticed your message around 40 minutes ago - went to boil some white fish. (!) As Rolf Harris might say of my ailment (presume you know of him?): "Can you guess what it is yet?" ;)

viv said...

Hiya Bianca

Running this blog is so worthwhile for the serious work and comments and for the light side too:-)

I definitely used to think she was an anti but then in the end, she seemed to completely change sides. Like some dark monster crawled in her head and took over, very weird. I guess if you are feeling manic a good way to feed that is to join their little coven.

On balance, if you will forgive the pun, Doc told me the same, Mandz and Rosie are two separate beings. Mandz is childish and seriously lacking in grey matter, when Psycho has the odd lucid moment, it can sound reasonably bright..on that we wondered whether Psycho's previously much cossetted title on the DE was in fact shared out, sometimes with the Pink S~'tted one sorry I meant shirted having a little go.. he does like to sound off a little and does seem to get a little stressed and angry. I could see him and Gerry hatching a few good plots together, but boy if they fell out, the walls would shake!

viv said...

LGC

I hope you are completely recovered soon and OPUS did not nab the fish of the worktop before you got chance to feed your cell!

..defend to the last TAPAS dish LOL

OH and did Voltaire really defend the right to HYvileS on the DE..blimey..what foresight that chap must have had!

viv said...

Doc - can you tell us about the headlines Bianca has been making then. They dont leave a stone unturned do they!

Bianca said...

No probs Little Grey Cell. Oh, and was very amused by your re-writing of Voltaire .. LOL!

viv said...

Anyway Ludicrous, The Retardos and that slimy little solicitor who works for the DG man make a great team for the McCanns, don't you think? Gerry must be really pleased with them, maybe they did blow Malinka's car up ? or was it Christabel?

hope4truth said...

Hey Bianca

Sorry to hear of your ban from the DX but you are better off out of it IMHO...

They are a strange bunch defeinding everything and becoming hysterical and cruel if you dare to say the wrong thing...


On here and Alsabellas site the only thing missing is the debate as we all agree something is wrong (in varying degrees) and the Pros have their own site but cant help themselves by comming over as Anon to try and stir up trouble (and just make themselves look pathetic and stupid)...

I only read their blog a couple of times once RP was telling Tinkerbell that when she came on here to make sure she posted anon so they did not know it was her and how RP was sure she would forget to post anon herself one day. And the other time Mum21 had Alsabellas Avitar up and had written shite across it and was very pleased with herself. SO I decided to not visit again as there are many things in the world to get annoyed about (neglect poverty child labour abuse the war in Iraq etc) so decided to save my time for things that really matter.

It is a shame as it is probebly to late for Madeleine but people must be made aware that there is never an excuse to neglect children and children should allways come first...

Take care good to see you here x

docmac said...

Panic in the ranks:

This is hilarious, yet sinister! I read the pro blog article for the day earlier this morning, as I do. It is a piece from one of their new favourite papers, The Sun (the other being The People, of course). The intriguing thing was Posieflops had put in a link to a policy guideline article from what is alleged to be Rat's place of employment and which was used as part of a rather frightening and threatening post to Rat a couple of days ago (I have not seen her post anywhere since, and I hope she has taken steps to identify and have the culprit arrested and charged).

It must have been there all morning, as I looked in just now (waves to Posie, Mummy, Stinks et al, as they are so fond of saying) and there was some degree of panic as e-mails and blog posts were flying in an attempt to direct Posie to the 'problem', all the while couching their posts in terms that would not be in any way revealing to a reader. Well, I saw it and there is nowhere to hide. If you are reading, Go for the throat, Rat. The original threatening post was from Supertroll.

Bianca said...

Actually, that's a very accurate take on LisaJ, Viv! It WAS like something weird and dark overtook her mind! Maybe it's like in Star Wars, when the Jedi's go over to the Dark Side .. you know .. like when Anakin Skywalker became Darth Vader??

By the way, who do you mean by "the Pink S~'tted one"? Sorry if I'm a bit slow on the uptake!

LittleGreyCell said...

HELLO, HELLO, HELLO

EXCLUSIVE! Gerry McCann shows us around his minimalist new home!

With his high-profile court case behind him, Gerry McCann invited us to visit his new downsized dwelling where he plans to spend the next few years living the simple life. He kindly took the time to show us around...

With its on-trend grey walls with matching fashionably-utilitarian furniture, Gerry demonstrates that he desires nothing more than being alone with his thoughts for the next decade - along with room mate Mad Clarrie Mitchell, "The Fleet Street Axe-Man", as ever, notable for his sartorially interesting pink stripy jumpsuit.

Having decided to dispense with a life of foreign holidays, detached houses and four-wheel-drives - not to mention spicy foreign foods and an extensive wine cellar - Gerry is experiencing the simple life, where he has newly discovered the delights of a bowl of porridge.

"I never believed I'd find myself in this position", he smiles. But being here has made me realize what I'd been missing in life. And very nearly managed to miss altogether. (HE SHUDDERS). To this end, I acknowledge my present circumstances are entirely down to the tireless hard work of those who work in the judicial system, and I want them to know that I will never forget them for it".

NEXT WEEK: Rosiepops shares with us her campaign for legislation requiring newspapers to print only lovely things about people from Leicestershire...

viv said...

Bianca darling

Clarence Mitchell who

A) Has a wardrobe full of pink shirts, or

B) Smells something rotten

docmac said...

LGC I know Rolf Harris quite well. He performed in Cape Town a couple of times when I was a sapling. I always thought his huge sketches/paintings were the best part of the show. Are you asking me to guess the ailment? Is the boiled white fish my clue?

viv said...

OK Chaps behave now the Moderator has arrived.

I just went down to make a cup of tea and Nanday jumped on me shoulder and is keeping a beady eye on you:-)

hope4truth said...

LGC

LOL thre is obviously nothing wrong with you, IMHO you were looking for sympathy when taken to the only open A&E department last week either that or your words just get funnier when you are feeling unwell LOL

Regards to Opus hope he is sharing his fish???

xxx

hope4truth said...

Hello Nanday

Hope you get a nice easter egg on sunday xxx

docmac said...

Bianca, Viv

They were just reminiscing about how aggressive and nasty they all thought Bianca was and sniggering about her ban from the DE. Helenm tried to assure them that Bianca is in no way representative of the way that most Australians feel about the McCann cup rattlers.

viv said...

LGC

Your 12.30 post SIMPLY BRILLIANT

I am going to frame it - can we have next week's instalment already PLEASE??

viv said...

Hope

Nanday says he prefers a nice fruit salad, as, unlike his mummy, he is watching his weight:-)

I will try and keep my hands off the grand-daughter's delicious looking pile of choccy eggs, George is getting concerned and threatened to send me to some sort of farm..

viv said...

Doc

Ah I see - they pick on a really nice person and project all their nastiness on to her.

Projection, psychologists could write a dissertation if they read the Dark Side, what a dearth of research material..

BIANCA WE LOVE YOU:-)

Can you believe they keep calling me Vile?

hope4truth said...

Viv

They call you vile as you think you are in a better position to get George than the rest of us...

We all want George so this must be why they call you vile??? Cant think of another reason xxx

Bianca said...

Hi hope4truth - great to see another friendly face :-)

Yes I agree. Being banned from the DE is no big deal. It bugged me at first, only because it seemed so unceremonious, and so in favour of the pro's. I think the REAL reason I was banned (it was a thread on Shannon Matthews) was because I was speaking out about the McCanns and the DE are scared of more libel. The DE claimed I was banned because I was "determined to be "off-topic", but as I said before, plenty of pro's were "off-topic" and it didn't seem to bother the DE (in fact, the pro's actually STARTED the comparisons between the McCann and Matthews cases, to which I was only responding). I guess it's okay to go "off-topic" in a thread at the DE, just as long as if the McCanns are brought up, you are saying nice things about them!

I actually think it's quite funny that the pro's come into this blog as "anon". Like you say, it only highlights how ridiculous they all are! I went into THEIR blog last night to comment on a disgusting comment by Melbel (She had written: "No, the McCanns did NOT lose a child - they had one TAKEN from them!") I went in as "Bianca", bold as brass, and told her how sick her apologetic attitude for this couple made me! Of course, my comment was removed, but I kept commenting if for no other reason, to force them to have to delete me! LOL

You are so right - too late for Madeleine (it seems, anyway) but NEVER to late to spread the message about responsible, loving parenting, and the vulnerability of innocent children!

All the best to you Hope :-)

viv said...

Oh I see Hope, they are just a bit miffed because I got George, and there was me thinking they were being nasty and spiteful, as if!

hope4truth said...

Hi Bianca

You said what you had to say but as yourself they are to sly and nasty to do the same...

I would have been annoyed to have been banned as well but it is no bad thing...

Someone posted here (I cant remeber who) that maybe they dont delete the Pro's as they want to keep all the posts so if this does go to court and if any of the people posting are pretending to be concerned memberes of the public but are in fact paid to do so or involved in this case it will not look good for them???

I dont know if that is true but if people really are being paid to change public opinion it is a very strange thing to do when a 3 year old child is missing?

I used to get shot down in flames for mentioning the neglect issue but as I said then and still maintain it is the one thing about all of this that is 100% true 3 children (plus others from the group) left alone in a (lockd or unlocked room) that is not a rumour it is a fact but they did not like it at all...

What a mess xxx

viv said...

Hiya Bianca

They already banned most of us, even that cute little Felicity. They just dont know a good thing when they see it.

It was reported in The Guardian that paying the McCanns half a million may increase their sales, so by pissing the McCanns off we were really helping them. Ungrateful that is what I call it.

Funny though, from reading Psychopops email to them above, she oh I mean it, actually felt a bit persecuted, it was told it was not allowed to defend itself. Do you see where I am coming from here, thinking this must be Gerry. I mean, why would some poster on the DE, where the article is about Kate and Gerry killing Madeleine and disposing of her body, feel the need to defend itself? Gerry we are going to fight this all the way we will defend ourselves (or something like that)

It always became so personal and nasty and then there was suddenly a load of kisses for Madeleine, just hang on Sweetheart, go to that place in your head, oh and kisses for Mari Luz too.

For someone who repeatedly insisted Madeleine was being held by evil paedophiles that go to that place in your head darling remark really did get to me..just hang on sweetheart. I thought that was just so intensely sick.

hope4truth said...

Viv

They are not nasty and spiteful they are just miss understood and jealous of George...

In fact so am I (well jealous about George) x

LittleGreyCell said...

Viv,

Ta once again! See, satire is really so simple, it just writes itself...

(The author sends her thanks to G. McCann and C. Mitchell, without whose efforts this piece would have been impossible)

hope4truth said...

I am off out for a while (we had snow earlier and had left my back door open to let the kitchen floor dry and had a pile of snow in the doorway)...

Now it is really sunny so going out with the dog...

See you all later xxx

Bianca said...

Thanks for filling us in Docmac. Actually, it's what I would have expected! I just couldn't IMAGINE them not bitching about me and having a laugh about my ban! LOL

By the way, HelenM is completely off the mark! Most Aussies I speak to can't STAND the McCanns, and many are still highly suspicious of their involvement with Madeleine's disappearance! I speak to, I like to think, a pretty broad cross-section of people, and certainly the overwhelming consensus seems to be that the McCanns are guilty of serious child neglect and quite possibly, even more!

To Viv - thank you so much darling! You were always so outspoken, articulate, and fiery on the DE, and considering the nobility of your cause (far from "vile"), I take my hat off to you! This blog is a credit to you, and I'm so glad I'm on THIS side and not the dark side!

To LGC - But where will the tennis courts go in this new minimalist accommodation? Will there be a golf course?

;)

dolores said...

Viv/Docmac,

Last night on 3 arguidos, aposter by the name Nicolass who was very pro and defensive,arguing with all and sundry,and who has only recently become a member.Ironsides and Celticarla kept asking if he was RP. It certainly did, and with the same bolshy attitude.


LGC,
Nice to hear you back to normal:)

ROTB,I am sure will have copied everything said against her.


Docmac,so really irrelevant if the dark side erase now,it's to late, the damage is done.They just cannot go around threatening people and get away with it.They are not a law unto themselves,that kind of bully boy behaviour won't be tolerated,and is illegal.
I would not like to be in their shoes right now.

LittleGreyCell said...

Docmac,

Yes, be my guest: no caffeine, no chocolate, no fatty foods or spices, no peppers or foods with small seeds, small meals to be eaten only...more tests to be done, but you'll probably get the idea from the above.

Am really p*ssed off, since I've always taken care of my body and eat lots of vegetables and organic stuff. But, as The Doctor told me, I "do" chilli...

Perhaps I should have taken up drugs and smoking instead? :)

I love Rolf's artwork - it always fascinated me how he could make such beautiful pictures with a decorator's brush!

viv said...

Hiya Hope

Yes that is true, what we can be 100% certain of is the McCanns neglected their children and exposed them to risk of serious harm by repeatedly leaving them alone for hours, every single night. After it was pointed out by Mark Warner staff there was no damage to the shutters, as they had suggested to imply a break-in we then got "oh well we left the door open".

I do not actually believe that such a money grabbing and materially minded couple would leave the door open, but if they did, there can be no doubt they exposed their children, in every conceivable way to risk of very serious harm, and that actually happened. With a swimming pool almost outside the door, what parent in their right mind would have left Madeleine alone like that, for a start off? It really does beggar belief!

It is hard to exactly fathom the DE's motives. Clearly, they knew they were running the risk of a libel action. I read it is OK to report what the Portuguese Police thought but to so clearly imply that it is correct, was libel, papers just cannot go that far. It was noticeable with Psycho in particular that so many of its disgusting posts never got removed and neither did it, well only for a week. What with it printing a Clarence Mitchell jackanory every other day and leaving all those posts on it did look very contrived. Psycho says itself now it just got used in the above email, which caused me some wry humour! Yes, I think they did, it, and its little cohort, were so outrageous they were sinking the McCanns far faster than anything the DE could ever write. I reckon that Geff used to sit there laughing "go on Rosie, got for it". Defending the McCanns, or showing them up for what they are, just like the DE wanted them to!

OpusThePenguin said...

Hope,

Please can I come and help you play in the snow??

LGC's a bit of a nightmare at the moment and it would be great to get out of her way for a whilte. We could share some herring crispy cakes later (I've jut made a new batch)...

:>

docmac said...

LGC I hope it's just reflux oesophagitis and not an ulcer!

docmac said...

Bianca, that's why I said Helenm "tried" to assure ;-).

Dolores, which article was that on 3A please? I'll read it just now, as I need to prepare myself a snack.

LittleGreyCell said...

Bianca,

Well, admittedly one has to make a few sacrifices for this quality of life, but he can still jog - takes 3.4 seconds to do the whole circuit...

:)

Bianca said...

Hi hope4truth,

Yes, I know what it was like! The pro's wanted to brush off the whole "neglect" issue as "been there, done that" when in fact, it is of central importance, not just to this case, but to children in general! If you mentioned the child neglect, they would say "oh why are you bringing THAT up again" blah, blah .. I even had that charmer "Melbel" tell me she was "tired of hearing about it" so not to bother replying to her posts, while "Mum21" simply told me to "shut up"!

Unbelievable!

Oh, and I agree. If people ARE being paid to say nice things about the McCanns at DE, it is a pretty suspicious state of affairs!

Enjoy your walk :-)

hope4truth said...

Opus

You are welcome to join me and the dog especialy if you bring the herring crispie cakes (eating them in the open will cut down on stench)...

I think the lake is frozen over obviously I will not be able to join you ice skating as I am far to heavey after eating all my chidlrens small eggs but I can watch (and guard the cakes)...

I am off to get the dog sorted and will see you in a minute xxx

Tell LGC to cheer up (at least she has a GSOH) hope she does not nick all your fish xxx

LittleGreyCell said...

Docmac,

Actually, it's more likely to be C. Difficile Mitchellitis - I just can't stomach the man!

viv said...

You know when you think about it I reckon the DE are going to finish up wiping the floor with the McCanns.

They had reporters out there and I am convinced they know for a fact the McCanns are guilty.

I think this will be satire like we have never seen before - the McCanns really should not have taken the press on - they are greedy, gullible fools..

They have kept all those posts as you say Hope, and all those articles, and when the McCanns are convicted, they will be paying the price again. Then, the Daily Express will seriously boost its sales, including book sales, I reckon. They will serialise it in the paper and it will last another ten months.

docmac said...

Haha LGC!!

Actually, I think CM is more like a gallstone, which was my next choice. Of course the problem could have been further down too which would be just as apt :-).

LittleGreyCell said...

Docmac,

Well, the man's certainly got gall - even if he is a cant (oops, typo!)

Bianca said...

Viv - yes, when you look at it that way, we DID in fact do the DE a favour .. quite right!

Well, anything is possible. I accused Rosiepops of being a McCann from very early days, as did others! There is something awfully strident, not to mention comprehensive, in her defense of this couple that she supposedly does not know from a bar of soap! She may well be Gerry - even Kate. This is the internet after all, and anyone could be anyone! I have actually seen a .. dare I say it .. "nice" side to Rosiepops .. she CAN be quite reasonable, even friendly. However, this does not mean that she is not Kate or Gerry!

Couldn't agree more, the "go to a nice place" thing seemed incredibly tasteless, considering that they all supposedly thought Madeleine was in the arms of some child rapist!

viv said...

What do you all think about the report the PJ want to interview the psychologist that worked with Kate and Justine McGuinness?

Very sinister IMO

I just got the feeling with Justine she was quietly horrified and it was very pointed the way she immediately stepped down in Septemgber when they were made arguidos and Ludicrous took over..

A bit pointed the way those two fund directors stepped down as well! Maybe ladies just cannot stomach it..Esther McVey has a law degree, she could figure things out and how precarious she was making her own political future, I am sure..

Bianca said...

Nighty Night guys. It's after midnight here in Oz, so better get ready for family visits tomorrow.

Viv, thanks again for an excellent blog, and thanks to all the great posters who come here and remind me that sanity is still alive and well in the online community!

Take care all, and wish you all a fabulous Easter! xx

viv said...

Hiya again Bianca

If any of them seemed just like Kate, to me, it has to be Chinadoll.

Kate presents as one with some pretty extreme mood swings. One minute retiring and pleasant and the next out of control and shouting. I recall Alsabella pointing out she was screaming with rage when she returned from being interviewed by the PJ. Sweet Philomena even confirmed this!

Chinadoll appeared on the DE and was the most incredibly rude and abusive of all of them for some weeks. Then, all of a sudden, we started to see an intelligent side, sometimes even quite pleasant. We see an extreme hatred of those that criticise the McCanns and many, many remarks that again, seem so personalised. She came on here a few weeks ago and had a late night discussion with me. Although she was being extremely unpleasant, I chatted with her because to me this person does seem quite mad and likes to talk in riddles and rhymes. She was slating my parrot. One of her comments was

better my insanity
than your insanitary

Glad I kept her talking to get that one..

LittleGreyCell said...

Viv,

My thoughts too!

VERY risky strategy for the McCanns, 'cos if they ARE charged and found guilty, there'll be no let up from the press until the end of time. (Plus, they'll have to pay the money back, which they might find a little difficult by that time).

I did a course at uni on Political Corruption (have written about this before), and it is the case over and over again that the public are forgiving of 'mistakes' and 'errors of judgement', but have no mercy when it comes to people lying and covering up their misdeeds. This is actually what brings most transgressors to a sticky end. They'd be far better off getting found out, owning up to it and taking the consequences there and then.

And as we discussed the other day, the McCanns have made people even more suspicious of them by getting the DE to publish something SO unbelievable that it becomes laughable. No evidence whatsoever? Should they be the PJ instead of the DE?

I love Docmac's quote from Bonaparte, was it? "Never interrupt someone when they're making mistakes". It's my new favourite saying!

viv said...

Bye Bianca darling

It was such a shock then when I saw you say nighty nite! Middle of the day here.

Sanity is very much alive and well, and it is most odd, that those who represent the McCanns demonstrate such insanity!

Look forward to seeing you again all the way from Oz

luve viv x

LittleGreyCell said...

Viv,

Surely the psychologists won't be able to help the police with their enquiries due to confidentiality?

viv said...

Hiya LGC

I guess the DE will just have to let them off with paying the money back because it will have gone WHOOSH and any assets they have, which I suspect would be pretty miniscule would be held on trust for the twins benefit. The DE would know it would not be a populist move to do anything to deprive them.

I think that half a million was a little investment, really not much to them. You obviously know far more about this, but I bet newspapers do sometimes have to plan some pretty long-term strategies.

After all multi-million pound earners like Princess Di and the McCanns do not turn up every couple of months do they?

I think you are so correct about what you learned on your course. Certainly in my own thoughts about the McCanns I have always said, why all this defensive behaviour and cover up. What terrible PR. That is what has made me so angry. So if they left the children alone and just said yes we did, it was rotten and selfish of us and it has cost us our little Madeleine. I want to stress to the public that was a terrible thing we did and I want to work to make sure other people realise this, and that you should never, ever do what we did. I would have admired them for that.

If Kate is mentally ill and she lost it with Madeleine and killed her but they just admitted it - again I would have admired them and looked upon it as a terrible tragedy and that she should be dealt with sympathetically. Now I am afraid I feel just the opposite because I take the view, even if she is mentally ill, she could still have told the truth and faced up to it, even if Gerry did not want her to, all she had to do was ring the police.

The public will always revile this couple because every chance they had to try and make amends they blew it. They are obsessed, quite literally with saving their own skin, and no hair brained scheme seems too perverse to them, in their pathetic and desperate quest for self-preservation. They manipulated, they conned and they lied. They laughed and released baloons on her birthday to make a stash of cash and launch their massive con. They even ridiculed the Pope. They denied little Madeleine a decent burial. Absolutely unforgiveable.

eurekamano said...

On this Good Friday an Easter card sent to me quotes the line:

"He is not here;
for He is risen,
As He has said."
Matthew 28:6

I thought of Madeleine, and the words "Suffer little children to come unto me." and the terrible falsehoods we have heard.

dolores said...

Docmac,
I will try and find that for you,as I had a phonecall.

xxD

LittleGreyCell said...

Viv, Docmac and others,

Going off now for luncheon of braised carpet underlay (no sauce) and a large mug of Ovaltine.

Happy Easter.

See you later!

X

docmac said...

LGC, use secateurs for the underlay, works brilliantly.


Dolores thanks, have looked around but not found it yet.

viv said...

Steady on LGC, you will have me thinking you are batting for the other side:-)

But, if you do insist on having some braised carpet, make sure you roast it nice and slowly.

Ovaltine, absolutely hate the stuff! but a know a few who seem to thrive on it, maybe they should add a little more real sugar, they already have plenty of saccharin..

Have a Super Easter Darling and catch you later. It has been lovely to have you on board!

Luv Viv xxxxxx

dolores said...

Decent caring parents around the UK incensed by remarks made by Clarence Mitchell on Irish TV

United Kingdom of Great Britain & N. Ireland (Press Release) October 28, 2007

Thousands of decent law-abiding caring parents around the United Kingdom are debating and voting in online forums for a withdrawal of the remarks made on Irish Television by Team McCann spokesperson Clarence Mitchell. Mr Mitchell incensed parents throughout the country when he suggested that neglecting children was a way of life in the UK. One angry parent wrote: "I would like the world to know that the British people are NOT a nation of McCanns. We do NOT leave our kids home alone. The NSPCC and others would soon be reporting us to the appropriate authorities and children would be put on the "at risk register". Just a thought are the McCanns still leaving their remaining children home alone whilst they have dinner in the garden?" Now these parents are demanding nothing less than an unconditional withdrawal of the scurrilous, defamatory remarks along with a public apology. (Did we, caring and law abiding parents ever get a public apology from Clarence Mitchell for these defamatory remarks suggesting that neglecting children was way of life for British parents in the UK??)

viv said...

Hiya Eureka

Suffer little children..wonderful words, they are all so beautiful x

docmac said...

DEMENTIA OR DRINK? OR BOTH?



JANEGT said...
MUM21

I have had that thought too. often.....

SASS

Yes indeed. To reverse the situation to the McCanns publishing with scarcely altered names would have meant a lynch mob and government bias and goodness knows what. I can see the screeching headlines now.

Odd no reports on Malinka's car on anti's sites I have been told? Someone emailed me on it. Very odd. Eye patch vision....again....

TINKS

bye for now. see you are 'flying off'. catch you again I trust.

21 March 2008 14:10


WTF is Viv's article I have been commenting on then, you stupid putz!

viv said...

Hiya again Dolores

That has to be one of the most crass remarks he ever uttered on behalf of the gruesome twosome.

Did it not even cross his addled brain that trying to brand the British public with the same parenting style as Kate and Gerry McCann would make us simply furious. Was this the best this prat could come out with in the "battle for public opinion". By telling us we are just as bad!

What an outrageous insult..can any of us imagine going on a week's holiday and coming home minus one of our kids. Well no, actually, Ludicrous, because we truly love them and know how to keep them safe, fundamental difference between the average British parents and Kate and Gerry McCann -we care!

2345 said...

eurekamano,

I agree, Easter's a timely reminder ... I Am The Way, The TRUTH And The Life.

viv said...

Hiya Doc


What a dozy bunch..I may need glasses for reading a book but I can see what is at the top of this blog.

I wonder, who sent her such an informative email, Supertroll!

Engage brain before mouth..

irina said...

Happy Easter everyone!
Here is a thought. After T7 will be quizzes and 2 of them confess, those 2 will voluntarily return to Portugal (while McCanns will be fighting extradition). Those 2 will be charged for assisting in crime, all details will come out.
If they are convicted - McCanns are convicted by this mare fact.

Then they can visit their daughter grave and show it to everyone!!!

supertroll said...

To Docmac and those accusing me of threatening RAT and posting her name,

I didn't do it. I don't care enough to go and do something like that. I am only a writer exposing facts.

Blog disputes should go no further than the blogs themselves.

Posting her name was wrong and illegal, I dont feel sorry for her because I find the woman unpleasant, but whoever did this has gone too far.

I think you should look among yourselves to find out who the cat among the pigeons is.

If you don't believe me, read at some of the anonymous posts that I have received.

I won't be posting again here today.

viv said...

Hiya Irina

Given the level of denial we have seen from this couple I do not believe, even when convicted they will have anything to say about Madeleine's grave, they will be saying they are innocent and they have been framed and their human rights abused.

I fear Madeleine has a deep watery grave anyway, no grave, as such to ever be found. Gerry McCann was very assured of that:

Well find the body and prove we killed her

out of the mouths of babes and innocents..

viv said...

Hiya Irina

Given the level of denial we have seen from this couple I do not believe, even when convicted they will have anything to say about Madeleine's grave, they will be saying they are innocent and they have been framed and their human rights abused.

I fear Madeleine has a deep watery grave anyway, no grave, as such to ever be found. Gerry McCann was very assured of that:

Well find the body and prove we killed her

out of the mouths of babes and innocents..

viv said...

Strange Troll

How you always have to come on here and deny it..very guilty behaviour.

We know what a sick perverted stalker you are, always pointing out who you are going to expose and write emails about.

You talk about blog wars and your own is dedicated to stalking my blog because persecuting others is how you get your kicks. You are very sick indeed.

viv said...

Now do one - this is for normal decent people, not the likes of you - go and have a chat with Psychopops and protest your innocence.

You are sick and vile

Goodbye x

supertroll said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
viv said...

Dont you even understand no one likes you and no one wants to talk to you?

Dont you even understand your obsessive blog about me, is stalking?

Get some help and please dont come back.

supertroll said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
dolores said...

Viv,
Some people never take the hint,what do we have to do to get rid of these pests.Back to the garden centre for reppellent or out with the crucifix and garlic,and the wooden stake again?
Wonder what action ROTB will take against these predators.
xx D


After six months the McCann have no right to attack the Portuguese media.In Portugal, six months after the publication of an article, McCann can no longer submit a complaint in criminal proceedings against the author or the newspaper. The assertion is the lawyer Miguel Reis, an expert in the media, statements in SOL. After that, if the couple had not asked to exercise his right of reply to a complaint filed criminal lawyers Kate and Gerry McCann are limited to action in the civil, or they must produce evidence of that newspapers and journalists have acted with failing to obtain the release of apology, financial compensation ever.
According to the lawyer, "if McCann had not presented a criminal complaint within six months or have exercised their right of reply within the time limits of the law Portuguese (30 days to 60 daily newspapers and other publications for ) any decision in this direction is not sustainable. "

viv said...

Hello Dolores darling

I was just reading all the "investigations" she has been making about posters on here, repeated vile comments about "Prat" as she calls her a "computer science lecturer" ..she says WE are all mad. I know she posts on here anon because I always recognise her peculiar word "defamating" which she uses in a signed post her own stalker site. She kept coming on here last night threatening to report me to Carter Ruck, for "defamating" them so I told her to go ahead whilst having a really good laugh. She is obsessed with investigating people and reporting them, it must be all she lives for because she lives such an empty and insane existence with no friends or life of her own. Typical behaviour above, "I wont be posting again" but then she does again and again, sick, obsessed and demented. Like some odious and persistent leak from a sewer. Even the pros decided it is best to just try and humour her.

I remember the stake and the garlic and the cross worked before, so if just telling her she is not wanted obviously does not work we better get them out again:-)

Only really sick people stalk others and they never care to admit it. I remember one obsessive email stalker who had really terrifed a girl and her boyrfriend over several months say to me on the phone... after I was kind enought to save him from custodial sentence, well I can see I have to do the community service but what have I got to come and see you again for every week. I just said fine, if you do not see any reason to come and see me every week, I will explain that to the court and they can re-sentence you. Suddenly he decided he could find time to come and see me! A combination of complete denial because they cannot face what horrible people they are and lack of insight as to just how offensive and sick their behaviour is. And yes Troll, I know you will be reading this. Think about it and what your blog says about you and your obsession with me and others. We do not have to answer you or explain why we are here - what makes you think you got the right to interfere in the lives of others and what they choose to do. Just like that man I mentioned above, you do not have the right. Stalking is a CRIMINAL OFFENCE - PROTECTION FROM HARASSMENT ACT 1997 maybe you should research that!

I read that paper they wanted to sue for daring to suggest the PJ thoughht they killed Madeleine went bust. Another victim of the McCanns!

Sorry about the rant:-)

Stalkers are such incredibly nasty control freaks always try to force themselves on people who really do not want them and just keep coming back, like a bad bad smell..

lizzy said...

Docmac,
I think the dearanged posts from the Pro's above show that they are clearly a loaf short of a picnic,
or as my kids would say nutters.
I'm just glad that the DE did shut down as this reminds me how bad it was on there, seeing their ridiculous comments. Lizzy

lizzy said...

Docmac,
I think the dearanged posts from the Pro's above show that they are clearly a loaf short of a picnic,
or as my kids would say nutters.
I'm just glad that the DE did shut down as this reminds me how bad it was on there, seeing their ridiculous comments. Lizzy

dolores said...

Viv,
This troll is a very sick, sad person,I don't really understand why it does not get help.As medication daily would help her/his problem,it is very bitter about a lot deeper stuff than just a couple of blogs, surely?
Do you think it has the 2 blogs or just one?

XX D

I have my ammunition ready.

hope4truth said...

Hello ALL

Dolores I hope your Mum has a lovely birthday and you enjoy the day as well...

Back from waliking the dog he is knackered and I dont think he will move from the fireplace for at least 4 hours...

southerncross said...

Hallo Viv,lizzy,dolores,hope

Just wanting to wish you all a lovely Easter.
Viv, the stalking that you mentioned is quite disturbing, unfortunately prognosis in such cases is effectively zero. Have a lovely weekend all:)

dolores said...

Hi Hope,
Thanks, I am sure she will,we have family coming from NewYork,Florida California and Scotland,quite a big affair.She is going to be thrilled.
That's good you enjoyed your walk,your dog is wise not to move now.

xx D

hope4truth said...

Dolores

That sounds wonderful it is lovely to get everyone together you will have a lovely day (dont forget to take a camera) When we did a surprise 70th fot my Father in law we put throw away cameras out for people to take photos with we had some lovely pictures and we were all in them as so many people used them... xxx

Cláudia said...

Hello, all! Happy Easter to you!
Hi, Viv. How are you, hun? Just sent you an e-mail.
Just wanted to tell you that the malinka car thing wasn't given much attention here in Portugal. I've seen most newspapers' covers and from what I could see, only 24 Horas mentioned it. I also heard it on one of our tv channels, but only a couple of seconds to say what had happened and to confirm that the PJ had been at the scene to gather evidence and send it for analysis.
xxxxx

dolores said...

Hope,
That is a really terrific idea,to use throwaway cameras,Iwill get some.Iknow it's not the first time I've forgotten to take mine.
xx D

hope4truth said...

Dolores

Been to Asda... They are a good idea and really cheap these days...

Have Fun x

2345 said...

claudia,

Malinka's car - thanks for news confirmation.

hope4truth said...

2345

Hello not seen you for a while hope you have a nice Easter x

2345 said...

hope4truth,

Thank you ... you too, enjoy !
Catch up with you soon.

2345 said...

Felicity,

Just read your post to me A.M.
I wasn't suggesting the explosion was a hoax; someone on 3 A's said Malinski knew nothing about it because he was in London. Apparently not the case, it was Murat. Your comments about this are very interesting. Someone said earlier is getting like "Twin Peaks" and I'm inclined to agree !!

docmac said...

VIV!!

I have just posted this at Alsa's and it may be the answer to the Malinka car torching. What do you think?


Alsabella, I believe you are often in the Luz area. I have just read something very, very interesting about what was written on the pavement beside Malinka's burned out car. 'FALA' has been interpreted as meaning 'speak' in English.

F.A.L.A. is also an acronym for Frente Anarquica e Libertária do Algarve (Anarchist Liberation Front for the Algarve), which is apparently active in Portimao and all over Portugal and beyond. Have you heard of them? Their blog is at

http://fala-portimao.blogspot.com/

Considering that Malinka had 2 cars previously destroyed in similar fashion BEFORE the McCanns arrived in Luz, do you think that this may be signicant?

If you want to see a good picture, click on the second photo at

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=540909&in_page_id=1770

dolores said...

Docmac,
I have looked everywhere for that link,and Ireall think the 3A'S have withdrawn it.Sorry
XX D

irina said...

Hello Docmac.
Interesting theory. There is apparently not all clear about Malinka's business. But I think it is irrelevant to Madeleine's case.

FALA are sort of anarchists... Why Malinka is not in favor with them? I would think mafia more relevant...

docmac said...

No problems Dolores, thank you very much for trying :-)

Hi Irina

Even before I read that I thought it may have links to organised crime and I posted earlier today on the same topic.

I'm on and off here at the moment as I am reading all my football forums at the moment!

atardi said...

Fijne Pasen Niki,

Yes she arrived safe and sound 2 hours ago. It's an international tournament so it would be great if they win. At least some matches;).

As for the anniversary most people use this word for happy events. Can you imagine your child is missing.
You want to convince people she is abducted. But you are planning all kinds of events like the 1st anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance. So weird.

Conclusion: you know too much about your daughter's "disappearance". That's why you don't make time to search for her. But you make time to write blogs and ask innocent people to send money to the fund so you can keep living like you used to!

A very good morning to you.

atardi said...

Hello everyone,

Happy Easter. I hope everyone is enjoying their day off.

I'm reading all the posts and watching a resume of "Keeping up appearances".

hope4truth said...

Hey Atardi

Hope you are well???

Your daughter is playing away I hope she wins...

Keeping up Appearances is it dubbed in dutch or in English??? I love Mrs Bucket she is such a snob...

xxx

atardi said...

2345,

Yes the PJ is bounded by legal procedures. We must not forget that!

We must wait and hope that Justice will be done to Madeleine.

2345 said...

atardi,

PJ's main hurdle has been political interference. I admire their diligence and commitment with the unnecessary hindrance they've been caused.

Have a happy Easter.

atardi said...

Hey Hope4truth,

Have a cold again. It's always during my day's off.

Daugther is in Paris. We found it very hard because of her age. In september 2007 she visited London for a week with her class/school it felt different.

I sent you a mail last tuesday.Did you receive it?

Keeping up appearances is in English but we have subtitles.

Bucket or Bouquet?

atardi said...

2345,

Yesterday I posted that it is time that a politician, a writer, a footballer or a celebrity in England stands up and say that it's time that the Tapas 9 or 10 must go to Portugal and answer all the questions.
I told my children about J.K Rowling and David Beckham supporting the Mc Canns.

They find it very difficult and they didn't buy JK's last novel.

But still like the movie "Bent it like Beckham". Only the movie!

I for one have all the time to wait and see untill justice is done to Madeleine.

leigh3 said...

Dear Rosiepops,

It is ironic that I write to you from here, but here goes:-

We disagreed many times, yet I always said the McCanns were entitled to a fair, open, honest defence in our democracy. Often, I thought you provided that. Often, you did not. 'Agree to disagree' is a good option, I think.

I understand you have asked to be removed from the DE forum.

Early one morning, you spoke about the 'game'. I agreed with you, and said it was rougher than you could ever imagine. It's a very long game, Rosie, and the Press play this game 24/7.

You had every opportunity to defend yourself, and your clan. You used the media. You still do, but it will use you for its own profit, just as you use it for your own aims.

The 'game' is competitive. Accepting a front page apology, and a relatively small sum of money, was very unwise.

Round 1: you won. Round 2: you lost. Round 3 is anybody's guess.

Eyes wide open, Rosiepops et al. Question your advisors more closely before you pay their bills.

Live, and learn. That's how it goes.

Happy Easter, Rosiepops et al. The McCanns deserve an open, honest defence in our democracy. So does Madeleine.

leigh3 said...

Hi Viv,

I hope you are ok with my post to Rosie. It had to be said.

I agree with docmac's reminder of Bonaparte: 'Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.'

However, I believe in other things too. Tis right to be magnanimous; right to defend democratic ideals, like free speech, tolerance, mercy, and forgiveness.

These ideas are more important than individual circumstances, I think.

Happy Easter, Viv and all. God loves all his children, whatever their age, whatever their rights or wrongs, in my humble opinion.

alsabella said...

Leigh

Beautifully put! :-)


Hi Viv,

Hope all is well with you. I may be totally off but I think this Sergei thing has nothing to do with the case in itself...

leigh3 said...

Dear Alsabella,

Happy Easter, chica. I enjoyed your tribute to the police, and the sacrifice they make, so that we can all have our say, live our lives, whatever our differences.

xo

hope4truth said...

HI Atardi

Oh that is hard my daughter wants to go to Germeny with the School in October she will be 15 by then and it will be her first time away. I dont want her to go but she is mature enough and really wants to go so we are going to let her (I will be sad when she is gone) but cant be selfish it is only for 4 days it will feel like 4 months...

I am having problems with MSN will have a look again in a minute...

Poor you with a cold again and over Easter do you have today and Monday off???

xxx

alsabella said...

Happy Easter, Leigh! :-)

hope4truth said...

Atardi

Bucket or Bouquet definatly Bucket but I love the way she trys to change the sound LOL x

atardi said...

Hope4truth,

My daughter was also 15 in september.But it felt more comfortable because it was a school exchange and also because of the fact that we have friends in London.

It's very hard to let them go! Germany is a nice country.

I would prefer Bucket too but it's funny to see how some people will do anything to belong to the high class.

alsabella said...

lool Atardi and Hope, are you talking about that comic series with Mrs Bucket??

hope4truth said...

Hi Alsabella

Happy Easter...

Do you get Keeping up Apearences in Portugal???

I love it and watch the repeats it allways makes me laugh but is years old now like me LOL xxx

alsabella said...

Hope

I don't know if its still on, but it was a few years back... It was soooo funny.... the way she use to try to act all "upity" and then her family use to show up... particularly her sister and brother-in-law.... lollllllllllllllllllllllll

hope4truth said...

Alsabella

Yes very funny with Daisy Rose and Onslow showing up it repeats on UK Gold here and I allways watch it when I am chanel hopping...

Is the weather good there it snowed here this morning all gone now but cold xxx

atardi said...

Yes Alsabella and Hope,

It reminds me of a couple that's trying to convince the lowest,middle and the upperclass that they had nothing to do with the disappearance of their daughter.

hope4truth said...

Atardi

I have just e mailed you managed to get back into MSN xxx

hope4truth said...

Atardi

That was really funny LOL x

alsabella said...

Its been a bit cold here, Hope...but cold to us is a bit different from your idea of cold...lool

hope4truth said...

Alsabella

In other words it is flaming hot and us Brits are wandering around in shorts saying how hot we are LOL x

alsabella said...

lool Hope

hope4truth said...

Alsabella

You know it is true and I bet there are a few men with rolled up trousers and a knotted hankerchief on their head LOL

atardi said...

Hope4truth,

Just sent you a mail.

Who is that nice looking gentleman? I'm still in the "Cars" period because of my son.

atardi said...

Hope/Alsabella,

Please don't forget the sandals and the socks.

hope4truth said...

Atardi

I have replied...

That is David Boreanz he was in Buffy The Vampire Slayer and is in a spin off show called Angel (he is a vampire with a soul) it is a strange program but I could watch him all day.. He is in a show now called Bones...

I think he is lovely (and as Viv has claimed George I am claiming David)....

hope4truth said...

Atardi

I forgot the Sandals and socks you know your British fashion for Men very well LOL x

atardi said...

Leigh3,

I wish i could post like you do.

Please keep representing my voice.

I'm still reading back.

Good post to Rosiepops.

hope4truth said...

Goodnight all

I am off to bed see you tomorrow xxx

atardi said...

Hope4truth,

You are right to claim David.
Sleep well.

atardi said...

Dolores,

Congratulations with your mother's 80th's birthday. Hope she will have a nice day.

atardi said...

Read you all tomorrow.

Sleep tight everyone.

dolores said...

Atardi,

Thank you so much (90th) and she is a wonderful mother. She is going to have a woderful 2 days,she is worth it.

Happy Easter to you and your family.

xx D

dolores said...

Viv,

Have you seen this photo?
2 Cuddle Cats !! How many were there?

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/05_02/mccannDM2505_228x529.jpg

dylan said...

A very Happy Easter to everyone!

I have been reading but busy & off to bed now.

I went over to the Rosie - must - have - a pop (at anyone who deigns to disagree) site to see fathom what is going on with poor Rat. I hope you are ok Rat & please come back - we miss you.

I also saw something that almost leaves me, lost for words: Rosie & Jane are boycotting all things from Portugal!!!! What kind of zenophobic bigotry is that??? Oh well, I suppose the Portuguese economy will be quaking in its poor, impoverished, 3rd world boots (the poor wee misguided people) at losing precisely 2 future retail opportunities. Surely that means that Portugal will collapse??!! Oh my word!

Hope & Atardi, I let my son go on a rugby tour to Holland a couple of years ago. I knew it would be full of the ususal rugby pranks & worried loads about it, but he came back fine, in one piece and loved every moment. Somehow he came back a little bit more grown- up. It's hard but I know your daughters will fine in Germany and Paris respectively.

Dolores - hope your party celebrations go perfectly. Have a lovely day.

Docmac, my step sons are in South Africa at the moment for a holiday with their grandfather. Not sure where but will find out!

Hi Viv - a special happy easter to you. Take care hunny & I hope your grandchildren enjoy thier eggs (unless you have a done a "hope" on them!) ;)

Nite, xx

dolores said...

Dylan,
Hope all is well with you,and thanks for your kind wishes.
I hope you and your family will have A Happy Easter
xx D

They are all so childish over there,I am sure they have lost the plot.It is really affecting them badly.

lizzy said...

Hi Viv/all posters
Hope you all have a very happy easter and your families too.
Lizzy x

viv said...

Back now you have all gone. Thanks for all your lovely posts and happy Easter!

Claudia and Alsabella

Lovely to hear from you both.

I agree Malinka unconnected incident, but as there were assumptions McCanns may have "arranged" this, in fairness thought I should point out it happened to him twice before.

Leigh - great post for ~Rosiepops, judging by how angry and aggressive they have been, maybe they see the folly of this already even though they dont have a lot of insight...the DE allowed people to tell them what they thought!

Viv x

atardi said...

Hey Dolores,

It's 90 years and not 80. Hope she will enjoy today and sunday in Ritz.

Give her the best you can. It's nice to read about others family life.

viv said...

Hi Atardi darling

are you OK?

Hope everything goes great for your daughter and you all have a FANTASTIC EASTER BREAK

LUV VIV X

atardi said...

Dylan,

Nice to read you again.Woke up at 2.30 and couldn't sleep again.

Missing daughter, because I have the cold and because I was very early awake in the morning and slept in the afternoon.

I know she will return ok but it's just my mother's instinct bothering me. And also my husband and the other kids.

You've experienced this also? With you son.
I know that we have to let her go but it's so hard.

As for Rosiepops and Jane, don't pay attention to their boycot. They still find it hard that the PJ have evidence that hasn't been sent to them.

Anonymous said...

Supertroll has a new poll: Should court action be taken against the vile blogs for libel and defamation against the McCanns?

atardi said...

Hi Viv,

I'm OK. Slept during the afternoon so my eyes are wide open now. Hope daughter will have a great time in Paris. She is so young and is playing in a team with adult women. But they promised me they would take care of her.

atardi said...

Viv,

Just sent you a mail.

viv said...

Anon

I know I just went and had a read of all the sad ravings and paranoia from Psychopops and Co about me..tee hee

Pleased to know I am still bothering them.

Oh and by the way whilst there I voted for myself:-) Sorry I have to continue to treat your site with the contempt it deserves and not bother to post there much as I can see you are fascinated with me:-)

viv said...

Hiya Atardi

Your daughter must be a very courageous and able young lady, just like her mom:-) I am sure she will be just fine.

Going to find your email:-)


Viv x