UPDATED ..WELL NOW WE SEE HOW KATE AND GERRY PERSONALLY LIKE TO ABUSE AMBER ALERTS FOR THE ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL EVENT THAT GERRY PROMISED ALL THE WAY BACK IN JUNE 2007, JUST ONE MONTH AFTER MADELEINE WENT MISSING. STRANGE HE HAD SUCH FORESIGHT..STRANGE THE PORTUGUESE JUDGE IN JANUARY ORDERED THE CASE AGAINST THEM TO CONTINUE AND, AT THE SAME TIME, THEY INVITED THE TV CAMERAS IN...NO MATTER WHO SICKENING WE MAY FIND IT, THEIR TELEVISED DEFENCE CAMPAIGN CONTINUES UNABATED.
TV SHOW MARKS MADELEINE ANNIVERSARY
ITV cameras have followed Madeleine McCann's parents since January
Thursday March 27,2008
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The parents of Madeleine McCann are taking part in an ITV documentary to mark the first anniversary of their daughter's disappearance.
Cameras have been following Kate and Gerry McCann since January for the programme, which will feature extended contributions from the couple.The one-hour ITV1 special follows Madeleine's parents as they launch a campaign to introduce a US-style Amber Alert system in Europe when a child goes missing.The couple have already been filmed at their home in Rothley, Leicestershire, and travelling to Washington in the US to pursue their campaign. Cameras will also be with the pair when they intend to highlight the issue in Brussels.The alert system would see law enforcement agencies empowered to commandeer airtime on TV and radio when a child goes missing.ITV said the McCanns hope a European-wide scheme would help other families in similar circumstances.In the documentary, the McCanns also talk about Madeleine, the night the four-year-old went missing, becoming "Arguido" suspects in Portugal and the decision to return to Britain.A statement from the broadcaster said: "ITV has commissioned Mentorn Media to make a documentary marking the first anniversary of Madeleine McCann's disappearance and focusing on the campaign to prevent others going through a similar ordeal."It said no payment has been made to Madeleine's parents for making the programme and the broadcaster will instead donate £10,000 to the Find Madeleine Fund.Madeleine went missing from her family's holiday apartment at the Ocean Club, in Praia da Luz, Portugal, on May 3.
PREVIOUS POST ABOUT HOW US PARENTS ABUSE THE AMBER ALERT SYSTEM - ONE COUPLE'S LITTLE BOY WAS FOUND DEAD AND THE GET CHARGED WITH MURDER..
wasting huge resources in the States and then getting locked up. I wonder do Gerry and Kate McCann wish to flag up this abuse of amber alerts when they appear in the alleged documentary for ITV?
Seems about as farcical to me as the DE just giving them half a million for libel, whilst they remain not just the prime, but now, the only suspects in Madeleine's disappearance..
Viv x
Filing False Reports
Why would you notify Police your child was abducted if you knew they weren’t? While parents or guardians are seeking any assistance they can to find their child, what could be going through these peoples minds?
In what seems to be happening with greater frequency parents are falsely reporting their children being abducted to police. The problem is they are treated as actual abductions requiring tremendous resources. They can diminish the reaction to future Amber Alerts as the public becomes more skeptical. Should states have harsher penalties for filing false missing child reports? Should abusers of the Amber Alerts systems pay for the cost associated with their activation? In most states filing a false report is a misdemeanor so the parents in effect suffer little consequences, but that depends on the circumstances..
“…Police said Monday’s Amber Alert in Alabama was a hoax.
It was originally reported that a 5-year-old boy, Geontae Glass, was abducted from the parking lot of a convenience store after his mother went inside. The boy was found dead early Tuesday morning, and his mother and her boyfriend were taken into police custody.
A Memphis mother is in trouble with the law, after police say she falsely reported her child was in her car when it was stolen.
That mother now facing possible charges of filing a false report. She is in police custody tonight along with two people who live at the apartment, who may have had a role in hiding the child.
ABC News video
A domestic dispute and a possible false report.
PEORIA, Ariz. — Peoria police said Friday they have found no evidence to support the story of a man who triggered an Amber Alert by claiming that his abusive wife had disappeared with their daughter.
Mike Tellef with Peoria Police said if detectives conclude that Frankie Abassi’s claims were bogus, he could be charged with false reporting.
Since 1999, Oklahoma has issued 13 Amber Alerts. However, four of those 13 alerts have been false reports.
Police briefly issued an Amber Alert Thursday afternoon after a woman said her 10-month-old son had been kidnapped by two female social workers, but the story turned out to be false, investigators said. Later, the woman told Long View police that her mother and sister had taken the child with her permission.
The parents reported two women pretending to work for the Department of Social services took their boy. Police said the two women were the boy’s grandmother and aunt, and that the mother knew the whole time.
The mother is Asian and the father Latino.
Police said that per cultural custom, the boy’s father owed his in-laws a dowry, or payment, for marrying their daughter and that dowry had not been paid.
In Midwest City, Ok.police issued an Amber Alert today for three children whose biological parents allegedly abducted them at gunpoint. Their foster mother, 26-year-old Carmen Hipshire called 911, on Thursday around 4:30 p.m. claiming Rhonda Anderson and Marcel Bonds, had taken the children. She left out one small detail, they had not.
After an Amber Alert was issued for Jesus “Lilliana” Vega, it appears she was “vacationing” in Mexico.
“…Eloy police spoke with Jesus “Lilliana” Vega on Wednesday afternoon by phone and she told them that she is in Colonia Guadalupe in Mexico with her boyfriend, Jose Garcia, said Amanda Villescaz, a spokeswoman for the department.
In the case of two children ages 7 and 8 years old in South Carolina they were returned safely by a family friend the day after being reported missing and an Amber Alert issued. Reddie Hopkins Ramey Sr., 54, of Columbia was believed to have known they were in the care of a family friend.
An Amber Alert was issued across North Carolina for a missing 2-year-old girl, Mariah Poland, who was inside a vehicle that apparently was stolen from a convenience store in eastern North Carolina. Amy Elizabeth Calvin, the mother of Mariah Poland, was arrested and charged with misdemeanor child abuse.
Yet another:
“…Early this morning, investigators found a Brunswick County teen who was last seen at a Winnabow convenience store Sunday, less than 12 hours after issuing an Amber Alert for her.
The Brunswick County Sheriff’s Office says officers found 15-year-old Alex Elizabeth Spriggs with her 17-year-old boyfriend Johnny Miller. Miller is charged with obstruction of justice, deliquency of a minor and marijuana possession.
Deputies say Spriggs could also face juvenile charges…”
David Williams, 22, of Philadelphia, was sentenced to three years in prison in 2003 for reporting that his 2-year-old child was inside his car when it was stolen in Pennsauken. Williams admitted he made up the story so police would look more urgently for his car.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 337 of 337Anon 17.05pm,
How can you call posters who have a right to air their views 'nutters' and 'sicko's'. Yet claim that two parents who systematically neglected their children and as a result one vanished, are innocent until proven guilty. That behaviour is 'nutty' and 'sick', IMO. Surely you should afford the same respect to posters with differing views from you the same respect you show for two child neglectors. You claim they are not guilty of all the rubbish that the posters you name state. How could you know this? I do not claim they are guilty of anything other than neglect, however I do find them suspicious and do not believe there was an abduction. So what happened to Madeleine? I cannot dismiss the allegations, there could be truth amongst them. I feel nothing for the McC's, they could not have children naturally therefore used IVF. They more than anyone should know how precious children are. Obviously not, if they did they would never have left them in the circumstances they did. One of the group is quoted as saying something like, we were expecting something to happen, but not this. So they were all aware of their actions,actions they are accountable for. The whole group are selfish adults only interested in themselves.IMO. Two parents used a monitor, two educated people think that is responsible! The grandmother of the child/children who had a monitor as a babysitter, thinks that is responsible parenting by her daughter! Where do these people come from, they are the ones you should be calling 'nutters' and 'sicko's', IMO.
Hello ALL
Just reading back and Alsabellas blog is no more? I am sure it will all sort its self out whatever happends...
Funny thing is Anons United are busy posting how pleased they are it's gone? Why? None of them had to post on there or for that matter even read what was being said but none the less they could not stay away.
I have to ask the question Why again ok so some not nice things are written about Gerry and Kate and some of us believe that she was not taken.
But In my own stupid and evil opinion when a 3 year old child (or any aged child) is taken from any family it needs to be investigated and looked at from all angels. When it comes out that the children were left alone not just on that night but for many nights before then that should flag up even more questions.
And when those questions are not answered by a Mother desprate for news of her child then my suspicion is raised.
Oh and then when you criticise the McCanns it is only because you are jealous of them??? That is the most stupid accusation any sane person can make.
No matter what happend to their daughter she is no longer with them no one would wish that on anyone or wish to swap places with them. They are known world wide as child neglectors now they may be hard faced enough to think that people look up to them but for every person that thinks what they did was ok there are many more who think they are selfish people.
They have a fund full of money that is being spent on a fraud investigation company it is not their money to do as they wish with (and to be honest would you wish to enjoy money that was donated to help find your daughter?) My Husband and I have large life asurance policies but if he were to die I would use the money to pay off the Mortgage and put the girls through Uni but I cant see me spending what was left on a good time I would rather have my Husband than a stack of cash and I am sure the McCanns if she was taken feel the same way.
Nothing would make me happier than Madeleine turning up alive and well I would actually be delighted for Gerry and Kate.
My opinion of them would not change their selfish actions if she was taken were a large part of why the scum of the earth could take her and unless they took the world by storm telling people how lucky they wrere to have her back and advised other people of how selfish and stupid they had been I will never have any respect for them.
Let all the blogs go we all have ways of contacting each other we can chat by invite only on hotmail or yahoo.
Maybe that will be for the best and all the pros can fight amongst themselves on their site wondering what is going on...
gina,
Good for you ... you're one of the most honest upfront commentators I've met. I share your view ... it confirms panic !!
Hey Gina
I think you are great (even though you have better weather than we do)...
xxx
Hope4truth,
What's happening here?
I was so astonished. (Reading back)
Hope you had a nice day.
Hi girls,
Just to get things back into perspective, I thought I would share with you a very personal, child-centred thing that has me crying as i write.
My little baby (well, she's 8) has just left with her father to go to France on holiday. I have to put all of her motor cycle gear on and helmet and she looks like a complete alien to me with it all on. I know I am stupid but I worry about her on the bike so much & i can't bear the thought of her being so far away from me. She was in floods of tears as I put her leathers on for her as she is scared about leaving me behind but, as her dad put her helmet and gloves on, she put on a really brave face and was just such a grown-up. I am sat here stunned and numb and wondering, who out of the both of us is the more mature?
I love her to bits and will be lost for the next week and a half.
I just wanted to share this with you all just as my way of saying, does all of the bickering really matter that much at the end of the day? It doesn't hurt to remind ourselves what is important and that is Madeleine & I for one will be sorely reminded tonight of what it is like to not have your child with you, even though I know mine will be coming home again.
Dillie :( xx
Hi folks thanks for your support. contrary to common belief I am not a shit stirrer, well not until now, but now I am going to stir it big time because I am f...ing hopping mad.
Having come on here just to answer Di and then get the usual pile of poo, the sneak that I am went back onto Sass site to thank mum for her VOLUNTEERED offer of help and to explain why it was difficult to have a reasonable conversation with anybody on there anymore because (i posted one of the comments from here). Immediately I got attacked on their. Helen M accusing me of saying it was they would were attacking me on here and Sass cutting and pasting my challenge to the pro. Naturally I responded telling Helen to refer back to an earlier post where I had said I thought anon were ex DX and explaining to Sass that my challenge was to annon posters this morning on Alsa site to answer what I thought was a reasonable question. Guess what happened, they now get approval from the blog admin before posting comments so my replies were not posted and they are all now having a field day assuming whatever they want to assume.. and all because Mum 21 offerred to help me sort out my computer and I took her up on it. Now I will be accused of whining, wingeing, playing hurt etc. Well all I can say is they ain't seen nothing yet, I will be what the accuse me off a two faced shit stirrer so watch this space
Hey hope darling, How are you?
I have just spotted another of your wonderfully apt typos. It said looking at things from all angels. I am sure you meant "angles" but "angels" is a lovely mistake to make. Bless you!
Apologies for me being hopelessly emotional this evening.
x
Gina,
You really don't need to explain yourself to us. We all know and trust you and value what you say. Don't give the "others" any fuel to burn.
xx
Hey Dyl
How are you (hope you did not get your skirt trapped in your bike spokes)LOL
I have Angel on the mind obviously he is so lovely (oh ok I type faster than I think)...
Well spotted I will go a bit slower xxx
Gina
Dont worry about it you allways post as you and openly post on all sites (we can all read all sites if we want to) so you could not talk behind someones back or stir without us all knowing even if you wanted to...
You keep being you everyones opinion counts and if some of the Pros had not been so bloody rude and vile I may well have thought about some of the things they said.
Debate is just that debate we cant all agree (or have fantastic weather) LOL xxx
Gina has been two-faced for too long. At the beginning of the other blog she was welcomed then went back to Alsabella's to run them all down. This happened a few times. How much patience do you expect SassyP to have with you?
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Sass said...
Genuine accident - I rejected a post from Gina instead of accepting it. Apparently she was referring to the anon pros.
Gina, i just don't think you can help yourself and you are lapping this up.Causing trouble and then playing the injured party, you have done it to often and been caught out with lies on numerous occassions.
You say you like some posters but haven't the guts to name them your hysterical.tee hee he.
Dillie,
That was a sweet post, I know how you feel, I feel that too when my kids have go for a few days with their grandparents.
Maybe as you are thinking about how it feels not to have your kid around you will give the McCann's a break and not post in a blog dedicated to persecuting them.
Gina, you can come and complain in my blog about everyone if you like, though that may make you...
'three-faced'
Dillie, may I email you one day?
I won't do it without your permission, but there is something I would like you to know.
ST
Hope4truth; the pros are vile? Did they accuse people who didnt agree with them of being supporters of paedophilia, call them tarts, etc?
If you dont call that vile then I can only hope your DNA hasnt been passed on in the form of children.
Hope, lol,
I am not with her dad and, although my leg hairs are long, they don't quite stretch to Paris....yet!! Not wearing my hippy skirt today. I have my trusty flared jeans on with Cliff Richard patches and Bay City Rollers turn-ups. I would have got my ankle swingers stuck on an escalator today had it not been for the fact that they a 5" from the sole of my platforms!!!
Feeling cheered a little now. :) But missing my little angel. I am sure your angel is not "little" at all!!
xx
Dylan/Hope just how stupid these people are, all sites are open for everybody to read so how can anyone talk behind peoples back. The only problem they have with me is I will not go along with them picking the PJ to pieces, if the McCanns are innocent until proven guilty so are the PJ. Just because they saw two police officer sitting in a car smoking, they accuse them of doing nothing. Maybe the poor sods were just having a break while their 300 other colleagues were still working.
They accuse the PJ of fitting up the McCanns and I asked them to give me a reasonable explanation as to why the would want to do that. Bearing in mind they think the PJ are lazy and incompetent surely the easiest and cheapest way out would have to gone along with the abduction, said they are search, say they think Madeleine is over the Border and over to Interpol, end of.
If they think they will shut me up on that one, no chance. Off now to cook dinner catch you all tomorrow, and hopefully by then we will know what Alsa is doing BYE ALL
lil,
It's a well known troll tactic, to confuse and confound. At the end of the day, it will not alter the evidence in the case will it ?
gina/dyl,
Don't you find it odd that PJ are continually slated despite the fact the most damning evidence was found by British Police - thanks to Eddie & Keela ?????
Why are these people stuck in the same irrelevant groove ??
The TRUTH is PJ were 100 times smarter that Gerry envisaged.
2345
I am no troll and no it won't change any evidence. Shame there isn't any, isn't it.
Anonymous said...
Gina, i just don't think you can help yourself and you are lapping this up.Causing trouble and then playing the injured party, you have done it to often and been caught out with lies on numerous occassions.
You say you like some posters but haven't the guts to name them your hysterical.tee hee he.
Thursday, 27 March 2008 18:21:00 o'clock GMT
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Anon it is you that is making me stand out from the crowd, and belief me I am far from injured in fact fighting fit now. Who do you want me to name, Rosiepops, Mum, Melbel, Dianeh all decent enough people as long as we stay off the subject of the McCanns, As for my alledged lying. I don't need to lie cost I have the guts to say it the way it is and whatsmore no need to prove anything to anyone, especially you. Go back and talk about me, it makes me feel important, you silly sod
2345,
What will you do when you find that lil is correct and there isn't any evidence.
I would suggest you take a long vacation.
I hear they have some very nice rooms at The Maudsley...
ST,
I am not here because I am vindictive and want to persecute anybody. I am here for my beliefs alone and whilst I am angry that Madeleine was left alone (very angry, in fact) I have always, always said that i would not wish the loss of a child on ANYBODY. I couldn't bear it myself & if it were my only child, i know i couldn't face life anymore. I have had many a time when I have felt near to despair to the point of wanting to just go but I couldn't ever do that to my children. Things are never that bad. Whatever happened to Maddie, & i do have thoughts on this, I still feel for the McCanns. I just want them to stop this whole circus, climb off of the ride and own up to the fact that they were negligent so that others do not hold them up to be a parragon of virtue of British parenting skills and so that this never, ever happens again to another child.
I do get upset at the degree of so called "debate". It doesn't hurt for us all to remember what the debate is about, though. I stay on this site because I believe that viv is doing this for the right reasons & not to vilify or wallow in somebody else's misfortune.
If you can at least see why I am here and understand that I am not just out for a witch hunt, then I am happy for you to email me. It is the child that I care about and nothing else. I also think that viv, hope, gina, irina, doc,lizzy, atari and all of the others are here for these reasons too and are genuinely good people.
Dyl xx
Anon
My DNA is alive and kicking in my two beautiful daughters who I love more than life itself...
Run along dear you will only make yourself look stupid if you stay xxx
Thank you Dyl,
I will reserve my opinions of the others you mention though. Lets agree to disagree on that one.
I will email you at some time in the future.
ST
Dyl
LOL
Cliff Richard you are soooooooo cool I am jealous in my taty dressing gown xxx
Hope4truth
Then bring them up with values which you are sadly lacking.
BTW,
Hope is an exception in the ones I mention.
You both are, as much as you annoy me at times...
ST
2345,
I find it very odd! My father was once a part of the police before his job got civilianised (is that a word?) me & my brother went on many an occassion to the police social club. They were all drinking, chatting and smoking. All this and behind closed doors, on duty and during one of the biggest drink driving projects of the last 20 years!!
Us brits fail to remember that many of the med countries have a siesta. I think this is a brilliant notion and i wish we could introduce it here. It would get rid of a lot of the stresses of the working day and make us all that little bit more tolerant....
;)
x
Have just re read alsabellas article reflection, if you read between the lines i think that she has shut the blog down to let the dust settle from the carryon yesterday.
I am off now.
Sorry Viv, I can see this going the same way as Alsabella's site yesterday.
I thought this forum and Alsabellas was all about.....
JUSTICE FOR MADELEINE.
Please everyone ignore the anons, can't you all see what they are doing!!!! also ignore the named trouble makers, but if not it is our loss.
FREEDOM OF SPEACH.
NEVER FORGET.....
Hope - just sew on a tartan hemline and you will be up there with the godesses of the catwalk ;)
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Di,
You just gave a good advice.
Read you later.
Anon
My children have been brought up open minded respectful polite to have an opinion and most of all with lots of love.
Now stop worrying about me you sad pathetic coward and go back on your site and praise parents who let their daughter down so badly that she is missing and instead of answering questions that may help find her have refused.
If you think your opinion bothers me you are very wrong and vile is the right way to describe many of those posters.
As I am an inteligent woman I choose not to go there and read what they are saying I sugest you do the same you are hidding behind anon and idiots like you keep me posing.
I enjoy chatting to some people here and a lot of the time Madeleine is not the subject. Nearly a year has gone by sadly and still no sign of her 1.5 million pounds reward is a lot of money for the scum of the earth peadophile rings not to give information but still nothing?
Kate and Gerry really think an Amber Alert system would have saved her? Maybe it would have but she would never have been taken (if that is what happend) if they had just stayed in or paid for a baby sitter is a 3 year old little girl not worth that small amount of care?
Maybe you dont think so and as I have said many times If I am wrong and she turns up alive and well I will be very pleased to be wrong. I will still think her parents let her down (and god forbid she has been with a peadophile for a year) she may grow up never forgiving her parents for putting her in such terrible danger.
Now stop worrying about my wonderful family and take a look at yours and make sure they are all safe and happy....
ST - no worries. Look forward to hearing what you have to tell me. Just please promise not to slag anybody off as I won't entertain it.
I am calling for an amnesty today for my own, very selfish sake & I do have some remorse and pity left in me for the McCanns. It is funny how things become clearer when your mind is the most clouded. Bitching has gone on for far too long. "agree to disagree" is what should have happened a long time ago and i feel ashamed that I have fallen foul of this on many occasions. Surely, we all have to admit, that whatever side of the fence we fall on, we would all be the happiest people in the world, if Maddie came back alive and well tomorrow.
I like to think of both sides, raising a glass (orange juice for rosie) in the same room and feeling mutual joy for a child saved. Ask viv - i am sure she would not disagree. Wouldn't that be just so great?
x
Di
Stop being right (I will ignore all now) x
Hi Viv/all
The reason Alsabella ha closed her blog down we don't know for sure, but what we do know is that there was bickering between posters, I said a while back and still think the best way to keep the blog trouble free is to ignore the Anons who come to cause trouble , give them no attention, the supertrolls ,the anons that what they crave attention if they don't get it they will eventaully get bored and leave.We here are feeding them by even engaging with them, they are not here to ddiscuss or debate but to argue divide and if they are lucky get the blog closed down. This is my opinion for what its worth...Lizzy
Dyl
I will go and find some tartan and get sewing x
Hi
I apolgise for my bad typing.
Previous post is full of typing errors. Lizzy
Hope,
Don't worry about defending yourself. You are clearly a dedicated, loving mother and if you lived near me, I wouldn't hesitate at having you babysit my children. I would only worry about the stick my teengage daughter would give you and fear that would get expensive for me as I'd have to pay you to babysit her much more than the going rate!!!
Dillie xxx
Ahhh Thanks Dyl
I am sure she would be mortified when I turned up in my dressing gown and refused to share my chocolate LOL
Evening All,
Getting back to subject I was reading earlier Kaxlux on 3a’s and s/he gives a translation of parts of Cristovao’s book which although fiction is nearer the truth imo. It’s rather long but worth the read I think if you haven't seen it already.
Snippets of the book 'A Estrela de Madeleine' by Paulo Pereira Cristóvão
As summarized/translated by Astro.
From the introduction:
Due to legal issues, it cannot be me, the author, to tell you what the truth, the truth of the case, is; but I can assure you that you can find it here, among the lines of this book.
From the first 7 chapters: what the fictional detectives noticed:
The furniture is impeccably aligned against the walls, as if someone had tried to make as much room as possible, in the centre of the living room. In the bedroom, the bed where the child was sleeping is on the opposite side of the window. Under the window, there is another bed that had not been in use. Whoever entered through the window, would have left foot marks on the bed, which in that position resembled a trap. But that had not happened.
Throughout the entire scene, the twins slept undisturbed. They were eventually carried away into another apartment, and never woke up.
(...) discovers that the child's parents have already phoned to England, asking for the intervention of friends, both within the government and the media. Guilhermino had been informed of the situation by the National Director, who had been called by the British ambassador in Portugal.
In the meantime, the inspector had been at the Tapas Bar; he had been sitting at the table where the group had also been, and he had talked to the waiters. They had told him that the group usually drank significant amounts of alcohol. On the night that Madeleine disappeared, they had consumed twelve bottles of wine, and some appetizers.
The investigators have gathered informal statements, and they start to compare them. They soon realise that something is wrong. The couple's friends stated that they got up several times to check on the children, while the waiters from the Tapas bar say they did not get up that often at all. But even within the group of friends, there are contradictions.
Two English people, one of them Jane Tanner, say that they saw a man carrying a child that could be the missing infant. The description given by Jane is very vague and carries a factor of doubt, as Gerry and a friend whom he was talking to, standing on the same location as Jane when she passed, saw nobody. The friend confirmed this
(...) telling him that a Dutch newspaper has received a map that supposedly shows the location of the child's body, and the lead is being taken seriously.
Francisco meets his chief, and two Dutch journalists, who have been in Portugal for three days, trying to find out the location of the place that is marked on the map. They even hired sniffer dogs. Francisco and João Tavares feel like arresting them on the spot, for endangering the investigation.
But the lead has to be verified. The journalists take an envelope out of their bag, and they produce a document that they say had been received together with the map. It's a spermogram, a document that is issued when someone has his sperm analysed in a lab.
João Tavares notices that there is no identification of the subject on the document, but he also notices a sequence of numbers on the lower right hand corner. He contacts a doctor who informs him that the sequence identifies the lab, the number of the test and the individual that was subject to the analysis.
Therefore, while other colleagues go to Odiaxere, followed by a trail of journalists, João Tavares and Francisco Meireles go to Lisbon, where they identify the individual, who turns out to be a public servant, divorced and with evident problems of self-assurance and self-regulation. The man confesses that all he wanted to do was to help keep the case in the media spotlight, and that he will seek psychiatric help.
On the last day of July, the intuition of the investigators and the results from Krugel find two powerful allies that confirmed the scenario that had begun to form: the death of Madeleine McCann, on the evening of May 3.
Eddie's handler opens the door to apartment 5A, and lets the dog in, to walk freely as usual. The dog sniffs around, followed by his handler, the policemen, experts from the scientific police, and a video technician, who registers the procedure on tape. At a given moment, in the living room, Eddie signals the presence of a cadaver to his handler. According to the laws of forensics, it's a cadaver that has been in that condition for at least two hours.
On the next day, it is Keela who is put into action. After several minutes sniffing around the house, she detains herself next to a sofa in the living room. The investigators move the sofa aside, and Keela shows them two tiny spots of dry blood: one on the floor, the other one on the wall. The material is collected, and a decision is made, against the opinion of Francisco, and João Tavares. The samples are sent into a lab in Birmingham.
On the next day, early in the morning, Eddie is called back to service, to investigate the surroundings of the apartment. The dog stops here and there, marking a path that is referenced by apartment 5A and the beach of Luz. Without knowing, Eddie has just confirmed Krugel's findings.
These two canines, without knowing it, were at the core of a volcano, when in three separate moments, they "accused" Madeleine's parents of, at least, not saying the whole truth about what happened to their daughter.
First, when they were given plenty of time and space to sniff through Robert Murat's house and all of his belongings, and did not discover anything that could minimally incriminate him.
Second, when they detected the odour of death on the key of the car that they used, which was rented more than twenty days after the little girl went missing. In the same car where they found traces of blood and hair under the spare tire.
Third, when, already in the new house where the couple was staying, Eddie once again smelled the characteristic odour of death on a pair of jeans and on a blouse that belong to Kate. The soft toy that the mother carried with her every time they went out, also presented a smell of death that was detected by the same dog. What the heck do we have here, then? - he thought, intrigued. - Did the parents stage this entire circus to hide the truth?
Hope - i will look out for you in this week's glossies!!
Will you be teaming your tartan swingers with this season's pale green tees and croc skin accessories?
xx
Lizzy arepa was not an anon and she still caused a war
Hope4Truth
I am not on any other blog.
I was below the belt though and I apologise.
Hi Wizard.
I guess there is no escaping the forensics. Things have taken so long that the evidence gets buried in the so-called news. I wonder if we will ever find out the significance of eddy and keela's finds? We know what we think but it will all be rendered as supposition if the PJs case goes no further than here and that would be a shame.
Have to go now.
Take care all.
Dyl xx
Wizard,do you know the book is copyright and should not be copied.
Hello, (almost) everybody.
Don't worry about Alsabella. I've had a few e-mails today of concerned people and just wanted to tell you everything's ok. You'll probably have news soon.
I see Wizard has found some extracts of Mr Paulo Pereira Cristóvão's book, "The Star of Madeleine". It is a very interesting book and it is particularly interesting because it makes readers feel part of the investigation process (not just this one). It makes very good reading!
Anon
Well thanks for that...
I am not an evil person and normaly feel very sorry for people in situations like this (as with Shannons Mum god knows what is going on but it must be hard for her not to hold her daughter) but the child must allways come first.
If I had done the same thing I would never forgive myself and the spin that has been put on this has made me feel as I do.
It dosent make me unfeeling when Kate was first made an arguido I actually cried for her as I could not imagine her being seperated from her twins. Whatever happend and I include if she had an accident or someone snapped I would feel for her how would you go on? If she was killed I dont even think Prison is the answer living with what you have done would be the worse punishment same with neglect I dont like it but they have to live with what they did.
But one victim Madeleine and when there is spin on every negative then I wondere why it is needed. Maybe I am gullable but if they had been in floods of tears and shouting how could we do this to her I would have belived that she was taken. I dont want them to suffer any more than they are but if Madeleine is still alive she must be in hell.
Claudia,
Yes that book does look very interesting, have seen excerpts on 3 Arguidos, have you read it?
Please pass my best wishes to Alsabella and hope to hear from her soon, she is a really genuine, nice person and doesn't deserve hassle and stress. Lizzy
Hope, bye for now hunny!
Good luck with the tartan, you know it's worth it, girl!!
Back later on xxx
Cláudia said...
Hello, (almost) everybody.
Don't worry about Alsabella. I've had a few e-mails today of concerned people and just wanted to tell you everything's ok. You'll probably have news soon.
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We weren't worried. Just over the moon.
Hope4Truth
Sorry again and bye
Good article
I really look forward to seeing Kate and Gerry.
Thank you for being on their side, great news that money to the fund is now increasing again.
Wizard,
Thanks for posting that on here.
"Under the window, there is another bed that had not been in use. Whoever entered through the window, would have left foot marks on the bed, which in that position resembled a trap. But that had not happened."
Very interesting.
Anon
If you are not positng on another blog (and there is no reason you should not be) find a nick name so we know it is you.
Because most of us agree there is not much debate and debate is a good thing as no one is ever 100% right (except me when I tell my husband what to do)
Hope4Truth
Got one!
Anon,
Please read my previous post. You are not nice & not welcome if you continue to be inflammatory. I will be back and hope that you will have seen the error of your ways. Bitchyness is the very thing i have tried to avoid and hence gone back to school, so to speak, to get away from. Go and be a dear and put on your nice head, wurzel. x
Hope4truth,
I don't think you have seen my earlier post to you.
Am still reading back.
Did you enjoy your day off with your husband?
Nick
Lol at least you have a sense of humor all is not lost x
Hey Atardi
How far back was it I have had a look but cant find it??
How are you? xxx
Hi, Lizzy.
yes, I have bought it and read it. And I found it very, very interesting. Many times people tend to look at police officers and other people who deal with the worst this society produces (murderers, sexual abusers, rapists, dangerous drug dealers, etc) as people who have seen such terrible things that they can't afford having emotions. Well, they certainly do. It's nice to see things from the perspective of someone who knows how these things work.
I'll certainly pass your regards on to Alsabella, but she is fine. A bit busy, though. :-)
Thanks, lizzy!
hope4truth,
I'm doing fine.
Was waiting for a "calm" moment to give my support to Dylan about her daughter going on vacation to France.
My earlier post was at 18.02
Claudia -
I've been trying to get on Alsabella's forum but it appears to have shut up shop! Can you tell me what's happened. Has she been closed down?
Thanks - Nancy
Atardi
It has been busy tonight I will go and have a look x
No, she hasn't, Nancy.
Nancy, alsa is not a she well he had it coming, bracelets?
Atardi
Found it...
I had a lovely day we have been to look at furniture and paint (blimey I am turning into my Mum) and then went out to a country pub for lunch.
It was nice not having to rush anywhere and the best bit is we can do it all again tomorrow (may swap paint shopping for the pictures or something though)...
It has been strange again tonight but what dosent kill you makes you stronger...
How are you is your daughter playing at all this week xxxx
Hello Claudia
Nice to see you x
Claudia,
Thank you, the book certainly does sound interesting, wish I could read it myself, maybe it will come out in English soon, I should imagine there will be a big demand for it if so.
Lizzy
Hello Lizzy
Hope you are well x
Hello, Hope! :-)
Lizzy, maybe it will. You never know! :-) I can't speak for the English market, of couse, but it is doing very well here. Mr Paulo Pereira Cristóvão's first book sold around 90 000 copies.
Claudia,
Please pass my regards to A;sabella, I did not think her site had been closed down.
Lizzy,
Your advice regarding troublemakers was the advice I followed when I first started posting on Viv and Alsabella's site's. It is good advice.
I CHOOSE NOT TO FEED TROLLS.
Zodiac
BBFN
Hi Hope
Nice to see you,hope your daughters are both well, my son is off now still for the Easter holiday and costing me a fortune....lol
Will be glad when he's back at school, he is doing his GCSE'S in a couple of months ..but has not done a lot of revision so far....Lizzy
I will, Zodiac. Thanks! :-)
Zodiac,
I really do think its best to ignore people who are not wanting to genuinely dscuss things, they are here for one reason only if not, to divide and cause trouble. You are right in saying its the best option.There are plenty of nice decent people on this site who do want to discuss and debate normally.I'm going to follow my own advice and completely ignore any Anons's or troublesome posters. Lizzy
Where is Alsabella?
She could be posting here...
I think someone is running scared.
Something BIG has happened.
Dream on Claudia...
Where is Viv?
Also running scared?
I'd be talking to a good solicitor if I were them.
Lizzy
Oh you poor thing I have two years before my eldest takes her GCSEs and her Sats were bad enought...
They dont have Easter Holidays until the 7th April (f the 7th is a Friday)...
LGCs son is revising for his as well (I hate exams)...
The girls are fine me and Hubby have two days off together so being really lazy...
Hope he gets into his revision soon xxx
hope4truth,
What a lovely way to spent the day. And you can do it tomorrow also. Just go and look for paint if that's what you like. You like painting?
Your daughters go to school the whole day?
Daughter has a practice match next saturday.
Enjoy your day tomorrow.
Hi Claudia
Thanks for your post.I do hope everything is okay with Alsabella
Hi, Souterncross.
You're welcome. :-) Everything's fine!
Lizzy-
I was just echoing your words about ignoring the 'nasty' anons when Alsabella's forum just vanished into thin air! It could be that she was too busy herself to be on there today but didn't trust everyone to keep it respectable - she sounded very cut up about the rudeness of certain people in her headline today! Let's hope she comes back or she will be sorely missed!
Viv -
This is the first time I have used your forum as I am normally on Alsabellas, and must thank you for the opportunity to have my say. I must say I find it very easy to use - thanks for having me - I have read many of your posts about Madeleine, and also on other topics in newspapers.
I read back and you said you take aspirin regularly - Is that to thin the blood. Here in Spain now they are advising against the use of aspirin, and have started giving people an alternative drug. I will try to get the name of it as a friend of mine takes it who has a heart murmour. I think that Spain is ahead of the UK in the use of more up to date medicines and they also use more expensive products whereas in the UK they buy the cheaper drugs, unless you go private I suppose.
Past my bed time so I'm off now.
Good night everyone!
Nancy,
I agree with you Alsabella would be really missed but I do believe she will be back, maybe she is busy today and will be back in a couple of days. I hope so.
Lizzy
Hi claudia are you still here
Hello Nancy,
I am sure your presence here is absolutely fine.
Dare i say a glass of red a night works wonders? France has the best longevity in the world, despite the heavy smoking & that can only be down to the humble grape!
I am just a sour old grape as i can't drink wine!!
xx
Off and on, Gina.
just to let you know that although I have never used any other identity other than the one I use now I will not be posting under that name again, going to change it
Why, Gina?
Gina, don't do anything that rash!
We all know and love you as Gina and don't you dare bow to disingenious rubbish!
To allow them to beat you is to admit defeat for all you stand for & we all stand up for you!
Dillie xxx
Oh claudia I wish I could email and tell you, anything I say on here will get all twisted. Just better for the blog owner if some do not know it is me, peace might reign then
Dillie thanks for your kind words but honestly I am tired of having half the blog taken up putting me down. I am not upset, beaten or wingeing but sometimes it makes you just want to put your fist through the computer screen. I have been accused of being allsorts of people who I never have been, so now they can take a hike, I might be someone different every day.
Gina
Keep being you. We are all entitiled to our opinions and as long as they are not rude then they should be accepted.
What ever has happend is not your fault you have allways been fair and that is to be comended...
xxx
Gina if you change your name every day I will assume every new person is you and that would be confusing...
I think the problem is people dont belive you have 3 bathrooms it is all jealousy xxx
Gina,
I know what you are feeling and sympathise. I got it really badly, straight to the heart when someone said such nasty things about my children. Don't take anything to heart. You stand correct in what you say about everything being open to see on other forums.
You are a trusted and implicitly liked persona on this site and were, always, on the DE. I wish viv were here to back you up but i know i can speak for us here that we would be very sad for you to give up your good name & character for the sake of some, misappropriated remarks from the other side.
Have faith and keep your good name. I never dared to post on the DE but admired the likes of you that you did. Don't let it all go now & let them get to you. I am sure Alsa will be back and she'll need you, darling.
Chin up eh? dyl xxx
Ok hope so I confess I lied about the bathrooms I have 2 and a loo, except for when my American daughter in law is here then I have three bathroom, as for some reason that I fail to understand the call the loo the bathroom too.
Here, what's going on?! I can't leave you lot alone for five minutes, now 'fess up, which one of you broke Alsabella's blog???!!!
Seriously, I hope everything is okay. I doubt very much that it has been "pulled". She will have her own reasons. I gather there was a bit of a carry on yesterday on all the blogs, maybe she just got fed up and stopped people commenting for a bit to make everyone behave. Or make everyone reflect on their behaviour, anyway.
Well I had a nice day here in the sun. Not skiing (sorry Troll) but swimming. I met a lovely family with a little girl of four - also called Madeleine, with blonde hair and green eyes - and it really struck a chord. There were four kids in the family, all in the pool, having a lovely time with their mum and dad.
And no, I did not grab the child, peer into her face to see her eyes, scream and put my hands over my mouth, try to take her picture or immediately call the police. I left the poor family to enjoy their Easter break in peace, as the mum said they have been getting pestered by total strangers for the past year, and they are getting kinda fed up with it.
As if somebody is going to kidnap a child and take her to the swimming pool! Still, I suppose it makes a change from the museum or Little Chef or whatever.
Right, this is a flying visit as it is half past midnight here and still 15 degrees, I am away for an early-ish night so I can get an early start tomorrow, hunting for "genuine fakes".
Sounds a bit like Clarence, actually... genuine fake....
Gina
Oh my god that is it that is why you are feeling so bad... Now you have confessed to your 2.5 bathrooms you can post with a clear mind...
That is so funny you still have nice weather though so I will continue with my jealousy about that xxx
Dylan you are a real sweetie but not doing me any favour hun, they hate people praising me and I am not looking for praise anyway. I just say it the way it is and they can read what I say on any blog.
One thing that is worrying me is, I know the truth about me, and those that attack me are so so wrong (which I can't prove to you but I know), so it makes me wonder how good they are at judging others, especially the McCanns. But we will have to wait and see what the truth is about them.
Rat
Have a lovely holiday xxx
Gina
Dont worry about the abuse when people are nice to you. I have been attacked for being a perfect parent (is there any such thing???) but when people try to insult you for caring about your children more than you do about yourself it kind of sums up what kind of people they are...
Hey I get an old dressing gown and Dyl gets hippy skirts how unfair is that !!!!!!!!!!!!! x
Hope when I had my friend over I think I will still have stood crossed legged for ages even if I had 5 bathroom.
While you are on, have you ever seen hope4you blogging anywhere. I hope she is ok, she sort of depended on chats when she could not get out
Hi Rat have you lost your kids yet.
Gina
No I havent seen her post for ages I thinks she was on Alsabellas when the DX got pulled but then she was not around anymore (cant remeber if she posted here Viv will know) I still get called hope4you but not often but I used to have to check to see if it was me people were talking to but havent done that for a while...
Hope she is ok (maybe she is on holiday???)...
xxx
Gina,
Hope you don't mind me butting in on your conversation with Hope.
But re posting under the name Gina I would continue if only not to let the nasties win, you are an honest genuine poster, don't let them intimidate you, I'm actually quite a shy person but would never let them affect me. I know you are not afraid of them but I hope you continue ot post as Gina as then we all know its you....Lizzy
Goodnigt all
I have a busy day doing what ever I want to tomorrow so dont want to waste it...
See you all later xxx
Rat, have a great time!
Gina, changing your name because of half a dozen pathetic, child neglecters fans? Don't be silly, hun.
Hope, I am all confused now what to do re my name. It goes without saying someone will have already copied what I said about changing it and the minute I post anywhere again in my name it will be repasted with LIAR LIAR, you know how it is. The will leave out the bit about people thinking it would confuse the issue. I'll think about it, Oh sod em I will do what I like. Speak again soon Take care all. Alsa if you are looking in hope all ok and we here from you soon
Sorry Gina,
Just trying to help in my own hippy way! I haven't managed to see beyond the yellow brick road yet, let alone the nasty, red, sparkly shoes! Some people have no heart and whatever you try, they just can't earn it!
I will bow out but still wish you won't give up your name. After all, at least you are proud to use it and not hide behind "anon" x
Hope/dylan, I have just looked at my posts and the mistakes (here instead of hear) etc. etc. I never both to check before I hit the go button, it would not take a minute for anybody to spot me under another name would it. Anyway I dare say they will lay off me for a while now as a bull has just landed in the cowshed
Goodnight hope.
Sweet dreams. x
OK OK OK you win amigas, gina it is gina it stays. See you soon, off to bed now take care all
Yeah rat have a great time, one down three to go, this blog wont be here when you get back, best say your goodbyes now.
Gina do us a favour and stop this woe is me fest you seem to be on all the time, talk about drama queen! One good thing we wont have to put up with your whinging for much longer thank goodness.
claudia fala!
Gina
Thats right you listen Claudia - the world's greatest liar and hypocrite for some sound advice. Nice going.
Claudia your "child neglecter fans" is getting really boring. Noone is a fan of child neglect as you well know you stupid pathetic mare. Now go out and get yourself a boyfriend - you sound increasingly frustrated.
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Cláudia said...
Rat, have a great time!
Gina, changing your name because of half a dozen pathetic, child neglecters fans? Don't be silly, hun.
___________________________________
ANON.
YEAH YOU WONT BE HERE MUCH LONGER EITHER HOPE YOU LIKE PRISON FOOD
JGT.........
La la la la, anon.
Tired of you. Going to bed.
Well done GINA! hang in there.
Goodnight xxx
Anon if you kept you beak out of here you would not have to put up with anything - but you cannot resist your I am the greatest fest
Rat, Happy swimming and enjoy,
g'nite & nite everyone else. Time to go up the wooden hill.
xx
What a sorry sad bunch of losers you really are.
Can't see a train when it is about to hit you full throttle!
Bye Rat hope your kids have a good holiday but I hope you have the runs the whole time.
Say Goodbye
Bye Boo hoo Gina sob sob oh woe is me I am so hard done by.
Just wanted to leave a message for Alsabella.
No other motive.
Here goes:-
chinadoll said...
OK,
I picked up that Alsabella has frozen her site.
I fervently hope that this was done, due to the disrespect that has been displayed by certain disgraceful posters.
I hope, Alsabella, that this was your way of attempting to put/pull certain people into check.
When this blog first started and I was trying to join, it was so well vetted and secretive, that it seemed ok to comment on the rest of you, who chose to be exposed and in the open.
I admit, that I posted once on your site in the early days (as an anon) and that was in response to your letter to Mrs Healey.
Regardless of past disputes, I have always felt able to engage in discussion with you, but, that, alas, really had a bad impact on me.
I like to call in now and then and say 'hello to dear Athena'
I dearly hope, that when you return, you will attempt to understand our side better and no doubt, in return, we will do the same.
I was touched by your humanity today, as displayed in your post and realised that we all have more in common, than we realised.
Keep it up.
Regards.
Chinadoll.
NB No comments are required from anyone else, other than the addressee.
28 March 2008 00:02
Chinadoll
xxx
Hi All
How typical that when I am not around something happens!
I am not in email contact with Alsabella and do not know why she has pulled her blog. However, I did read her final post and think she just had enough of the "blog wars".
I have not had chance to read all the posts but would just say all are welcome here, so long as they can be polite.
To those who want to feed their silly paranoia and persist in threats you know who you are and are not welcome here.
Viv x
anonymouse,
Wrong blog .
STOP DRINKING , take your pills and go home .
Where is your 15 year old daughter tonight Jane? While you are swigging WKD and special Brew and abusing people on blogs?
anonymouse,
keep dreaming :)
shouldn't you be more concerned with ur own kid Jane? than with vivs parrot?
Jane
You are a very unwell lady and you drink far too much. Go back to Rosie and stop shouting your offensive rubbish on here. It will only get deleted.
I wrote to the Daily Express due to my concern about you having read all of your offensive and obviously drunken posts on Christmas Day asking them to email you to see if you were alright which I know they did.
I am not concerned about you any more, I am completely fed up with you. Now go away and for the last time, get yourself some help.
Viv
Good morning Viv/all
Here is Gerrys most resent blog.
Gerry's Blog
Day 329: 27/03/2008
Kate and I arrived back from Washington yesterday. We went primarily to visit the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) and to learn more about the implementation of their national AMBER alert system (child rescue alert). The whole experience was very positive. The staff at NCMEC is the most experienced in dealing with missing and abducted children anywhere in the world.
The AMBER alert system should be used in the most serious child abduction cases (usually by strangers, when the child is considered at risk of serious harm) to recover the child as quickly as possible. The alert is based on the realisation that galvanising the local community can play a huge role in finding missing children. Last year alone 68 children, and almost 400 in total since its’ implementation, were recovered safely as a direct result of the AMBER alert. In 16 cases the abductor released the child safely when hearing the AMBER alert. We strongly feel that Europe should have a similar integrated child rescue alert.
Our visit to Washington and meetings with other relevant European organisations will be shown on a documentary to be screened by ITV on the 30 April. The programme will focus on the campaign to introduce a European version of the AMBER alert. There will of course be massive media interest in Madeleine’s disappearance at this time, if she remains missing, and we hope that the programme is shown in most European countries and further afield.
During our Washington visit we were also very encouraged to hear that, in NCMEC’s experience, the younger the child at the time of abduction the less likely that child will be seriously harmed. Such information makes us believe even more fervently, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, that Madeleine can be found safe and well
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Don't have the time to stay around. Hope you all will have a good day without insulting eachother.... Will copy the words I posted to Leigh3 yesterday:
"Unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other,"
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Niki
Dear Niki,
I'm just catching up with the latest here, and saw your quote from the Bible :-) Very apt, and you may like this one which appeals to all kind souls, I think: 'Every Saint has a past; every sinner has a future.'
Missing Madeleine Beth McCann tests people's faith in law, justice, and ethics, I think, whatever side of the fence people sit.
Justice is complex; morality is simple: do unto others as you would have them do unto you; that is the essence of every great religion, every great philosopy, if we can believe what we read, and what our hearts know to be true, I think. I could be wrong, but I prefer to be guided by great thinkers and doers rather than petty politics, and personal disputes.
I've been overwhelmed by domestic and work lately, so this is my first chance to catch up with Viv and her guest posters since earlier this week.
Hundreds of posts! What's going on? I'll read back, and see.
Thank you, Niki for your excellent reminder of a wonderful ideal.
See you soon, no doubt.
Leigh
HIYA VIV!
lil,
But for the damning FSS evidence sitting on PJ's files - released by British Police in the public's best interest, McCann lawyers would have cleared their name months ago.
Evidence of Metado 3's highly illegally practices on McCanns' behalf, intimidation threat and bribery are well documented. As is their involvement with Mari's parents and her death .... inconsistent comments and reports.
These caused such panic to McCann mechanics yesterday, Alsabella's block was IMMEDIATELY attacked to hide 'evidence' in the SECOND DEATH OF AN INNOCENT CHILD.
No worries .... as those in pursuit of truth say .... all backed up and fully secure.
As Brown, CM DE and trolls have NO access to PJ's dossier of substantiated evidence, it's very odd that you back DE's unsubstantiated, grossly misleading public proclamation of NO EVIDENCE.
The unprecedented behaviour in this case .... overwhelming need to silence evidence and public opinion has been counter productive.
McCanns tried and failed to hide the truth on 2nd or 3rd May ...
the truth in Mari's case is that her drug trafficking family are
directly linked to Metado 3's laundering of drug money - her parents' 'illegal' advisors.
It caused such fear and alarm ...
all incriminating press reports were IMMEDIATELY wiped from Alsa's blog.
So much for the lawyers McCanns told Times & Telegraph they were employing with Fund money to clearly their names quickly. They didn't ... they employed crooks to do their 'dirty' work ... by each and every available means. The gypsies, known to be rough 'knife' wielding' mentality were clearly prime targets.
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