7 Jan 2008

BLOOD IN HIRE CAR AND APARTMENT

Final result of the examinations arrived in England recently but has not questions for researchers of the Judicial Police. The blood found in the car of McCann will be the same Madeleine, as the traces found in the house rented by the English and where the child, then three years old, disappeared without trace. The investigation continues, however, in a deadlock. Without corpse and no confessions will be available to parents of the girl create a doubt in court. Not because of the quality of the traces, but the method used in the collection. "Being a trace that is not visible to the naked eye is necessary to use the 'low copy number." This means that are extracted genetic profiles of all persons who left traces there. It is not contamination of evidence, but the possibility, almost academic, to be someone who has a genetic profile similar to the junction of many, "said the CM a source expert of the process. In this scenario - and the parents of Maddie may create a doubt that everything is just a huge coincidence - the authorities continue to demand the blow of fate that can change the course of the investigation. The steps that will happen in the coming weeks in England - the interrogations to friends of McCann and seizure of items such as log-Kate - mean that. There are also hamper this investigation to frame criminal concerned. Inspectors PJ argue that the treaty will be an accident, which puts the crime in terms of accidental or negligent homicide. The other crimes are of concealment of corpse and simulation of abduction, and that in any event provides pre-trial detention and the use of evidence such as bugging. According to the CM found, even if the friends of the couple English add nothing to research the investigation should result in indictment public. The same, however, will be the responsibility of the prosecutor, the PJ can only give a suggestion of legal qualification. Kate and Gerry McCann also will never be tried in Portugal, the process, when completed, followed in England, where he will be assessed by the Justice that country. MADELEINE It DAUGHTER OF GERRY AND KATE MCCANN The possibility of Gerry and Kate are not parents of Maddie - as given by some newspaper'24 Hours' - never became an academic hypothesis, refused at the beginning of the investigation when it was collected the DNA of the child disappeared. Designed by artificial insemination, the genetic heritage of the child belongs to the couple McCann. DNA IS NOT THE BROTHERS GÉMEOS Many traces collected by the PJ and there is no chance of those assigned to be the Maddie twin brothers, Sean and Amélie. This hypothesis has been checked and all the tests were repeated in Portugal and England. They have also been collected in two different moments, in May and in August, by researchers from the Laboratory of Forensic Science and specialists of the Institute of Legal Medicine. MEETING IN ENGLAND Researchers from the PJ and the experts of the Legal Medicine were England to examine the collection of trace. REPETIDOS IN TWO COUNTRIES Traces collected to reach the DNA of Maddie analyzed in Portugal and also in London. RASTO OF BLOOD NO DEIXA QUESTIONS TO RESEARCHERS It is not just the fact that they have been found traces match the DNA of Maddie leading researchers to believe that they are facing a case of death. They are also the places where they were found allowing the Judiciary Police will reconstruct what happened to the child, on the night of May 3 and the subsequent days. Firstly, the British dogs detected odors of the fourth corpse in the car boot and the clothes that Kate used that night. Then, were found the traces of blood, not visible to the naked eye, which indicate the presence of the corpse of the girl behind a sofa in the fourth bag of the car that was rented only 22 days later. The PJ also took account of the analysis of various details during the investigation: from the way the furniture was placed in the home until the testimonies of neighbours. Then again be the key testimony of Pamela Fenn, the British who lived in the top floor occupied by McCann. The day before the disappearance of the girl that moradora heard the screams of Maddie. The child cried and screamed for the father, and the audible descontrolo mother's emotional. Pamela Fenn has even speak with McCann on the noise made by children, that incomodava while McCann promised that the situation does not repeat. The CM knows that all traces pointing to the presence of Maddie's house in the village of Praia da Luz permit also set a track the movement of the body. What then was hidden in unknown location and transported to a place also not determined. Remember also that the British dogs detected after the smell of corpses next to the spare tire and the keys of the car used by the couple for several months. It was also in that first place (luggage) that the animals returned to find traces of a biological DNA that corresponds to the girl English and whose results exclude the possibility of belonging to the twin brothers. AS CERTEZAS RESEARCH OFFICER ODOR OF CADÁVER The British dogs detected odor of corpses in the room where Maddie was last and in the clothes of Kate. The PJ gives great credibility to this trace, as it is specially trained dogs SOZINHAS The children of the group that accompanied the McCann were alone in the room from 20:00. TRANSPORT For PJ is a certainty. If Maddie walked in the car of parents can only have been after dead. The Renault Scénic was only leased to May 25 last year. HOW MORREU The PJ does not know how Maddie died. The collection of traces and the place where they were found conducts research to a scenario of death, but there are only hints about what will have happened that night. WHERE IS THE CADÁVER The discovery of the corpse of Maddie could explain the whole crime later. Only an autopsy would determine what actually happened to the child English, by-gone of the day on May 3. HOUSE OF ROBERT MURAT REVIRADA The house of Robert Murat was twice revirada by the Judiciary Police, which sought traces of the passage of the girl. In any of the situations found any evidence, any genetic profile that coincide with the Madeleine. Also the car, Murat and his mother were the subject of expertise, but the result has returned to zero. Even so - and because in recent months some friends of McCann ensure Murat have seen in the vicinity of the village on the night of the disappearance - the PJ did not propose the closing of the case with the British. Go to remain as accused before the end of the police investigation. NOTES SCIENTIFIC PROOF Without confessions or corpse, PJ bet everything on the scientific proof: it is never absolute and that needs to be crossed with other elements. MEDICINES FOR SLEEPING The assumption had been calming kids to sleep has always been equated. However, there is no test that demonstrates. APREENSÃO OF DAILY The diary of Kate can be seized in the coming weeks. It is essential to devise a psychological profile of the mother of the child British.
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Final result of the examinations arrived in England recently but has not questions for researchers of the Judicial Police. The blood found in the car of McCann will be the same Madeleine, as the traces found in the house rented by the English and where the child, then three years old, disappeared without trace.







The investigation continues, however, in a deadlock. Without corpse and no confessions will be available to parents of the girl create a doubt in court. Not because of the quality of the traces, but the method used in the collection. "Being a trace that is not visible to the naked eye is necessary to use the 'low copy number." This means that are extracted genetic profiles of all persons who left traces there. It is not contamination of evidence, but the possibility, almost academic, to be someone who has a genetic profile similar to the junction of many, "said the CM a source expert of the process.

In this scenario - and the parents of Maddie may create a doubt that everything is just a huge coincidence - the authorities continue to demand the blow of fate that can change the course of the investigation. The steps that will happen in the coming weeks in England - the interrogations to friends of McCann and seizure of items such as log-Kate - mean that.

There are also hamper this investigation to frame criminal concerned. Inspectors PJ argue that the treaty will be an accident, which puts the crime in terms of accidental or negligent homicide. The other crimes are of concealment of corpse and simulation of abduction, and that in any event provides pre-trial detention and the use of evidence such as bugging.

According to the CM found, even if the friends of the couple English add nothing to research the investigation should result in indictment public. The same, however, will be the responsibility of the prosecutor, the PJ can only give a suggestion of legal qualification.

Kate and Gerry McCann also will never be tried in Portugal, the process, when completed, followed in England, where he will be assessed by the Justice that country.

MADELEINE It DAUGHTER OF GERRY AND KATE MCCANN

The possibility of Gerry and Kate are not parents of Maddie - as given by some newspaper'24 Hours' - never became an academic hypothesis, refused at the beginning of the investigation when it was collected the DNA of the child disappeared. Designed by artificial insemination, the genetic heritage of the child belongs to the couple McCann.

DNA IS NOT THE BROTHERS GÉMEOS

Many traces collected by the PJ and there is no chance of those assigned to be the Maddie twin brothers, Sean and Amélie. This hypothesis has been checked and all the tests were repeated in Portugal and England. They have also been collected in two different moments, in May and in August, by researchers from the Laboratory of Forensic Science and specialists of the Institute of Legal Medicine.

MEETING IN ENGLAND

Researchers from the PJ and the experts of the Legal Medicine were England to examine the collection of trace.

REPETIDOS IN TWO COUNTRIES

Traces collected to reach the DNA of Maddie analyzed in Portugal and also in London.

RASTO OF BLOOD NO DEIXA QUESTIONS TO RESEARCHERS

It is not just the fact that they have been found traces match the DNA of Maddie leading researchers to believe that they are facing a case of death. They are also the places where they were found allowing the Judiciary Police will reconstruct what happened to the child, on the night of May 3 and the subsequent days.

Firstly, the British dogs detected odors of the fourth corpse in the car boot and the clothes that Kate used that night. Then, were found the traces of blood, not visible to the naked eye, which indicate the presence of the corpse of the girl behind a sofa in the fourth bag of the car that was rented only 22 days later.

The PJ also took account of the analysis of various details during the investigation: from the way the furniture was placed in the home until the testimonies of neighbours.

Then again be the key testimony of Pamela Fenn, the British who lived in the top floor occupied by McCann. The day before the disappearance of the girl that moradora heard the screams of Maddie. The child cried and screamed for the father, and the audible descontrolo mother's emotional.

Pamela Fenn has even speak with McCann on the noise made by children, that incomodava while McCann promised that the situation does not repeat.

The CM knows that all traces pointing to the presence of Maddie's house in the village of Praia da Luz permit also set a track the movement of the body. What then was hidden in unknown location and transported to a place also not determined.

Remember also that the British dogs detected after the smell of corpses next to the spare tire and the keys of the car used by the couple for several months. It was also in that first place (luggage) that the animals returned to find traces of a biological DNA that corresponds to the girl English and whose results exclude the possibility of belonging to the twin brothers.

AS CERTEZAS RESEARCH OFFICER

ODOR OF CADÁVER

The British dogs detected odor of corpses in the room where Maddie was last and in the clothes of Kate. The PJ gives great credibility to this trace, as it is specially trained dogs

SOZINHAS

The children of the group that accompanied the McCann were alone in the room from 20:00.

TRANSPORT

For PJ is a certainty. If Maddie walked in the car of parents can only have been after dead. The Renault Scénic was only leased to May 25 last year.

HOW MORREU

The PJ does not know how Maddie died. The collection of traces and the place where they were found conducts research to a scenario of death, but there are only hints about what will have happened that night.

WHERE IS THE CADÁVER

The discovery of the corpse of Maddie could explain the whole crime later. Only an autopsy would determine what actually happened to the child English, by-gone of the day on May 3.

HOUSE OF ROBERT MURAT REVIRADA

The house of Robert Murat was twice revirada by the Judiciary Police, which sought traces of the passage of the girl. In any of the situations found any evidence, any genetic profile that coincide with the Madeleine. Also the car, Murat and his mother were the subject of expertise, but the result has returned to zero. Even so - and because in recent months some friends of McCann ensure Murat have seen in the vicinity of the village on the night of the disappearance - the PJ did not propose the closing of the case with the British. Go to remain as accused before the end of the police investigation.

NOTES

SCIENTIFIC PROOF

Without confessions or corpse, PJ bet everything on the scientific proof: it is never absolute and that needs to be crossed with other elements.

MEDICINES FOR SLEEPING

The assumption had been calming kids to sleep has always been equated. However, there is no test that demonstrates.

APREENSÃO OF DAILY

The diary of Kate can be seized in the coming weeks. It is essential to devise a psychological profile of the mother of the child British.

29 comments:

dolores said...

Hi Viv I wonder if you can help out here, Why will the court case never be held in Portugal,as that is where the crime was commited I thought there would be no way it would be in UK.They could walk away from this IMO due to the public resentment .
I also read that Low Copy Numbers from DNA tests are accepted in UK courts, as long as they have been run at least 3 times, to eliminate any element of doubt.The Omagh case only ran twice.
xxx

docmac said...

I agree with your cnocern, Dolores. Remember Anthony Bennett who tried to bring a private prosecution against the McCanns? The judge ruled that the jurisdiction lies in Portugal and thus refused his application. Confusing this, hopefully Viv can shed some light on the reality of what will happen. I am just loving the sympathisers going on about the European court of Human Rights though. It stinks of desperation to me.

docmac said...

cnocern? cnocern? Get an education you dumbass doctor :-)

Ironside said...

Hi Docmac..how you doing...a simple yes or know if you can...is it true that one tapas is at the moment in portugal..Have been hearing things today...on one side
O'Brian and Tanner to confirm and back up gerry....if you can just slide over a couple of things without detail...would be great....my regards to your family...my sincere thanks....Ironside

Ironside said...

Ecolab or LCG...Hi to you both one of you a few days ago sent VIV a copy of Privacy Laws from the DM Forum you dont by any chance still have it do you..to refresh your memory it was about campaigning for the maddie fund and trolling the net etc...I have lost my copy....would mean a lot....cheers

hope4truth said...

Hello Ironside

I have tried to log into the 3arguidos and it says it does not recognise my password or e mail addy... So I have re regd will I recieve a confirmation e mail as I never got one the first time???

Sorry to keep on at you about it but you seem to be an expert...

Thanks :o)

docmac said...

Hi Ironside we are all well thank you, as I hope you are. To answer your question, YES!!! O'Brien and Tanner are getting jumpy because they are implicated by this testimony. Whether they actually know about it I am not yet sure, but should be able to find out later this week. They are sure getting edgy though.

hope4truth said...

Ironside

Dont know what I did diffrent but I am in.... Just reading your Kate and the April Death Toll will have a look round and see if I can work it out...
Thanks for your help...

Anonymous said...

Thanks docmac, you're wonderful!!!!!!

Ironside said...

Hope4Truth....Glad you have arrived safely....
Docmac...Thanks a million...

dolores said...

docmac
Isigned the petition for Bennet, but deep in my heart I knew it would be futile.
I posted some time ago a letter to Viv about ECHR and copied a little from it on DX,as I was sick of 'the chain gang'going on about it.The leader am back at me about the new laws being put in place, which would solve everthing,She said the ECHR would see that G & K complaint of harassment in the newspapers smears by PJ and so on would be unfair treatment.
What a hateful woman/man, I'm on her hit list now ,as I gave her a right dressing down the other day, for calling me a hypocrite, she was lying about things I never said,and would'nt apoligise.

xx

hope4truth said...

Dolores

Hello you still here?

It is not nice on the DX is it I only stay to speak to a few people and am to stubbon to leave to please a few more.

lizzy said...

Hi Docmac, Viv, Ironside
I read on the MIrror forum that one of the Tapas 7 is in Portgual now is it Oldfield or Payne? Or can't you say? Its just that I think they have more to lose and are less likely to be as involved as O'brien and JT....so have deduced is more likely to be one of them....I also read the trial if there is one would take place in England which would be worrying due to political intervention so far. As the crimes happened in Portgual shoudln't the trial be there? Or has the foreign secretary interfered again.?

docmac said...

Lizzy, as the visit to Portugal is being conducted 'under wraps' I would rather not say if you don't mind. If you are Lizzyw1 I would not tell you anyway, as I have just read on the DX forum that she is an Everton supporter ;-). Only kidding! If you are w1 I have been a fanatical Liverpool fan for more than 35 years. I wept many times for that poor young Rhys Jones though and I thought the tribute payed to him and his family by the fans at Anfield was phenomenal.

Dolores, as I know Rosiepops et al read this blog I'll take the opportunity of saying she is a foul-mouthed, insincere, irritating and intolerant bitch with delusions of grandeur. Skip past her posts like I do now and never, ever address her by name.

dolores said...

docmac when they say the blood is Maddies, would this be bodily fluids also, or is that seperate?

Hope 4 Truth
I think we will have to ask Viv for a little clock, then we will know what time people posted and we can reply immediatly, as more are finding their way here.
'The Chain Gang' are up to their nasties again tonight
XXX

dolores said...

Docmac,Do you mean that pompous old bitch who is an expert in law, forensics and criminology,etc., ect., reads here, but the old hypocrite said she never does, Bare faced liar that she is.
I never post to her,But she always makes a point of having a go at me.Her posts are so boring, they are not worth reading.

docmac said...

Dolores it really does not matter what the fluids are. Any body fluid can be proven to have come from a corpse. The fluids isolated from the hire car would probably come from more than one source (within the same body) anyway.

I'm off to bed now. I hope Viv will be here soon. Goodnight all and dorme bem (sleep well).

docmac said...

Sorry Dolores, just saw you there again. Yes, a very good description of our beloved Rosie by you ;-).

lizzy said...

Hi Docmac,
No problem about you not saying, but Everton are my team and yes am lizzyw1 from the express, my son did trials for Liverpool a couple of years ago but wasn't picked for the academy, but he enjoyed his weeks there,he is a blue though but would have gone if chosen.Liverpool are not as good this season as they have been but hey are beating us.....

docmac said...

Hi lizzy

Your son must be a pretty neat footballer then. Did he tried out anywhere else? I am a fanatical 'Pool man as I said, but I always enjoy it when both of the Stanley Park neighbours do well. I love the way Arsenal are playing, it's beautiful to watch. Can't stand them arrogant Mancs or the Chavs however.

I will tell you it is one of the two you mentioned earlier by the way.

Cláudia said...

Just wanted to wish all of you, good people, a good night!
Viv, you're great! :-)

docmac said...

lizzy I mean try out. Fatigue syndrome got me.

docmac said...

lizzy I mean try out. Fatigue syndrome got me.

CKH said...

Apologies if you've already seen this, but I wanted to post it for anyone that doesn't frequent the Mirror Forum.

Please take Spudgun's "Policia Judiciara Apology to UK in Full" in the ironic spirit it was intended.

------------------------
Posted by Spudgun
Jan 7, 2008, 6:33pm

>>>>> START <<<<<

On behalf of the entire Policia Judiciaria, may I take this opportunity to deeply and most sincerely apologise to the esteemed peoples of the United Kingdom for ever daring to give consideration to the possibility that Saint Gerry and Kate McCann, Patron Saints of Rothley, could ever have been responsible for the disappearance of their daughter, Madeleine.

We now realise our own despicable ineptitude, inabilities and incompetence in failing to resolve this case, for which we feel intense shame.

It should have been obvious to even the most imbecilic of police forces that, upon arrival at the Mark warner holiday complex and having the parents explain how the shutters to their apartment had been forced and smashed open, their doors unlocked, their versions of events and statements wildly differing, that Madeleine was clearly abducted.

The fact that their entire party of friends and colleagues had marched, charged and ventured all over the apartment, destroying any possible evidence of what took place there is irrelevant and is a damning indictment on our useless forensics department.

It is now abundantly clear to us that we should have immediately released a description of the prime suspect, as described in perfect detail, by Jane Tanner, instead of waiting for the Right Honourable Gordon Brown to insist that we do so 3 weeks after the event and after our useless scene of crime officers had dismissed it as being entirely fictitious on the grounds that not only did two other witnesses NOT see the abductor, but they didn’t see Jane Tanner either.

As for those English Cadaver dogs that apparently scented ‘Death’on the garments and accessories of Mrs. McCann, we can only reiterate that it is easy for such matters to become confused during the translation process. We now fully understand that ‘Eau du Corpse’ is, in fact, a latest designer perfume from France, specifically designed for wear by professional women who come into contact with an inordinately high number of cadavers during the course of a typical working week.

And those DNA test results from your Birmingham FSS Forensic services? We now fully accept that although they represent a partial match to Madeleine, stated as 88% from one source, to a 100% ‘non transferable’ match as quoted on SKY, FOX and CBS news, they are equally likely to have been derived from a partially decaying packet of Walls Pork sausages.

As for all those other allegations, ‘leaks’ inaccuracies and ‘unhelpful speculation’ that has appeared in our press since May, apportioning blame on to the McCanns, I can assure you that they have collectively hung their heads in shame and are working tirelessly to match those standards set by those Holy Grails of informative Press, the ‘SUN’, ‘DAILY MAIL’, ‘DAILY EXPRESS’ and the ‘MIRROR‘.

It remains for me only to say that we will gladly donate the entirety of our pension funds, as issued on our imminent dismissal from the force for our incompetence, to the ‘Madeleine McCann Fund’ so that Mr and Mrs McCann can continue their tireless search for their daughter and for the truth, and to travel in order to bring compassion, understanding and education about the dangers of evil Predators to the world.

Either that or to pay for their Mortgage and future Holidays for the next12 years.

We shall also insist on a Nationwide collection towards the fund from the citizens of Portugal. Including those who took a week off work to scurry around on their hands on knees to search through the dirt with their bare hands for clues. These ‘Bumpkins’ must also suffer the consequences of their countries failings.

We can only hope that our replacements will take up the gauntlet of Justice and pursue this case, sifting through the miriad of Sex offenders that dwell on every street corner and home in Portuga in order to establish the real culprit and ensure that he faces Justice. Either that or enlist him into the PJ alongside all the other paedophiles and woman beaters.

I, myself, am now off to apply to join Metodo 3, where their respective efforts have done more to unearth the real truth of this mystery than any other efforts here in Portugal.

Yours,
Senor S. Muncher

>>>>> END <<<<<<

Again: Spudgun wrote this with his tongue firmly inserted in cheek, lest his intentions be misunderstood by any lurking McTrolls! Spudgun is and has been instrumental in helping shine a light on the McCanns' "Cash for Comments" scandal and wishes for justice to be granted to Madeleine.

felicity said...

Good Morning all!

What a great load of posts!!

Sorry I was not around - had an early night!

Will now try and pick up on some of your comments - if I miss any I am sure you will tell me.

Firstly, it came as a shock to read in this article the prosecution will be held here because previously we have always been told it would be in Portugal. Under the Offences Against the Person Act 1861 where a British National has committed homicide (either murder or manslaughter) abroad then the UK courts do have jurisdiction to try them here. I knew the solicitors private prosecution would not get off the ground here for two reasons -
his complaint concerned an offence of child neglect committed in a foreign jurisdiction - as this was a different, less serious offence. our courts did not have the jurisdiction to deal with it - it has to be homicide. Secondly, the neglect was obviously all part and parcel of the facts and evidence that would be used in a prosecution for homicide which was/is still being investigated. Therefore there was no way this private prosecution was going to get off the ground and he really should have known better!

Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights which is incorporated into UK law provides that everyone is entitled to a fair trial. I have commented in the past on the DE that the McCanns may be able to argue that a trial in Portugal would not be fair to them. This is due to the language problems. It is considered essential that any person accused can follow very closely their own trial. So perhaps the McCanns lawyers have successfully argued this point. On the other hand maybe this had always been planned. We were always told there was a fairly large team of UK police - about 30 under a Detective Superintendent working on the case here. We still do not know whether this is correct but if it is I can see a further advantage to the McCanns of a trial in the UK in that they will get a jury rather than 3 judges. Juries are known to be much easier to sway than judges. The McCanns will get Legal Aid here and be given assigned a very senior QC barrister. He will only need to persuade the jury there is an element of doubt for the McCanns to walk!

AS far as the DNA evidence is concerned, my own view is that this would never stand alone to convict the McCanns. I believe it is correct that LCN is acceptable providing it has been confirmed by three tests, rather than two. WE have already heard the McCanns will use American "experts" to discredit both this and the evidence of the sniffer dogs. I think in addition to this there is going to be a whole host of other witnesses, telephone records and circumstantial evidence against the McCanns so my feeling is a successful prosecution may be possible. The McCanns friends will be warned of the substantial custodial sentences our courts dish out in such a case if they commit perjury.

As far as prosecution for fraud is concerned - this has continued in this jurisdiction and so I think it is likely they would also be prosecuted for this.

As far as the European Court of Human Rights is concerned - firstly they would have to be ocnvicted here. Then they would have to appeal. Then they would have to prove in some way their human rights were breached e.g. by arguing they did not get a fair trial - this is worrying because of the amount of publicity and detail about the case there has been here. But the average wait to get to the European Court is 5-6 years and even then you have to have a case which is debatable! So this idea promoted by Rosiepops and Co that the European Court are going to do the PJ is complete and utter rubbish. The McCanns themselves would have to pursue the case and they would have to actually have a case!

I have no objection to any of you letting off steam about the old crone on the DE who likes to pretend she has some legal knowledge - she writes absurd and ignorant rubbish.

Great to hear from you all and if I missed anything - I am wide awake now - !


Luv to you all
Viv xxxxxxxx

Anonymous said...

I keep reading about low copy with regards to the DNA samples.........not having much knowledge re DNA, does anyone know if it is fact that all samples have been low copy.

felicity said...

Anon

We do not know this for a certainty but in the case of the blood samples from the apartment it would seem likely - due the cleaning operation they conducted! It also seems likely to me that what they found in the hire care would have just been the merest trace of flaked off dried blood. However, there were also reports of fluids with a clear suggestion these were suppurating fluids from a corpse and also a large quantity of hair. So it is possible that not all the samples are LCN.

I think we have to keep an open mind as to precisely what they have. There has been talk of "fibres" as well. Little tiny bits of fibre linking the victim to some area or person are often used in murder enquiries.

Regards
Viv x

eureka said...

Hi Viv, I have wondered whether in fact the trials (parents and Tapas7) may take place both in the UK and in Portugal. After all, the most serious offences may have taken place in Portugal, but then much of the deception and fraud may be thought to have taken place in the UK. The fund being based in the UK! We shall see.

felicity said...

Hiya Eureka - that cannot be ruled out but I think it would be very difficult to have split trials in different jurisdictions. That may subject the McCanns to double jeopardy and would involve much repetition of facts and evidence - just too complex I think but you are right we need to wait and see! I recall a month or two back there was an article possibly in the DM where a senior barrister here was saying what a pity we could not have it all tried here in the UK courts. One thing is for sure it is going to be a very big trial - conspiracy...how many defendants!

Regards
Viv x